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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2383</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>blooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one would have to assume that someone in the Obama White House had ever read a history book not authored by Howard Zinn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one would have to assume that someone in the Obama White House had ever read a history book not authored by Howard Zinn.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2338</link>
		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the same week he&#039;s saying he needs the Patriot Act and that the FBI is conducting multiple raids across the country for AQ cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the same week he&#8217;s saying he needs the Patriot Act and that the FBI is conducting multiple raids across the country for AQ cells.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2337</link>
		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NObama is sending a clear message: we will not defend freedom against aggression, because we are the worst aggressor, because as a racist imperialist nation, responsible for most of the ills of the world from poverty in Africa and the rest of the Third World to global warming, we have no right to defend anything or anybody!

This is NObama&#039;s philosophy, and the timing cannot possibly be coincidental: the symbolism is clear, and in diplomacy symbolism counts for quite a bit.  The Russians have a free hand to re-dominate the East, to ally with Iran, and to do whatever, because we have not moral imperative to stop them.

The Chinese must be delighted, as they circle &quot;TAIWAN&quot; on their maps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NObama is sending a clear message: we will not defend freedom against aggression, because we are the worst aggressor, because as a racist imperialist nation, responsible for most of the ills of the world from poverty in Africa and the rest of the Third World to global warming, we have no right to defend anything or anybody!</p>
<p>This is NObama&#8217;s philosophy, and the timing cannot possibly be coincidental: the symbolism is clear, and in diplomacy symbolism counts for quite a bit.  The Russians have a free hand to re-dominate the East, to ally with Iran, and to do whatever, because we have not moral imperative to stop them.</p>
<p>The Chinese must be delighted, as they circle &#8220;TAIWAN&#8221; on their maps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2336</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will cut their deal and hope they don&#039;t get destroyed.</description>
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		<title>By: proudgop</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2335</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its pretty typical he is retreating here, retreating on our European allies with stopping missile defense shield</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its pretty typical he is retreating here, retreating on our European allies with stopping missile defense shield</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Drudgereport right now: 8:00 A.M. E.S.T.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100010237/barack-obama-surrenders-to-russia-on-missile-defence/

Surrender in Afghanistan and Iraq will be coming sooner rather than later: the Chinese will only be further emboldened in the Pacific.

Prepare for allies to start wavering and making their accomodations with the new barbarians bringing down civilization.  I will be assembling a diary on that topic in a few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Drudgereport right now: 8:00 A.M. E.S.T.</p>
<p>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100010237/barack-obama-surrenders-to-russia-on-missile-defence/</p>
<p>Surrender in Afghanistan and Iraq will be coming sooner rather than later: the Chinese will only be further emboldened in the Pacific.</p>
<p>Prepare for allies to start wavering and making their accomodations with the new barbarians bringing down civilization.  I will be assembling a diary on that topic in a few days.</p>
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		<title>By: 1SGinTN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a fool would ignore the counsel of some of the foremost experts in counterinsurgency, generals Petraeus and McChrystal.  

Petitions may have little impact on the decision process of the CinC, but what else can you do to help prevent him from being foolish?

http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/give_them_what_they_need/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool would ignore the counsel of some of the foremost experts in counterinsurgency, generals Petraeus and McChrystal.  </p>
<p>Petitions may have little impact on the decision process of the CinC, but what else can you do to help prevent him from being foolish?</p>
<p>http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/give_them_what_they_need/</p>
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		<title>By: Yahuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yahuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to Streiff to coal the fires in the belly.

As an old soldier who spent several years in Vietnam during that &#039;late unpleasantness&#039;, I subscribe to the doctrine which states: &quot;If you are going to fight . . .
   Fight.
Don&#039;t **** around.&#039;&#039;

Unfortunately, before our military will ever be permitted to take the fight to the enemy someone is going to have to precisely state:

  1.  What are our (political, diplomatic, military) goals in Afghanistan? To kill Taliban and deny the country to alQueda is simply NOT a credible national goal of any  type (although I find nothing wrong with it).

  2.   For the love of god, for once since the end of WWII will somebody PLEASE define the term : &quot;WIN&quot; as it applies to the military effort in that particular rat hole.

Not only must a purpose and military mission be defined for Afghanistan, but also someone must articulate criteria to determine when our national security goals have been met.

Anybody want to take bets upon when or whether this (or any) commander-in-chief will rise to the occasion and offer some guidance on these topics.

My advice is not to take bets on it.

Since the end of WWII it has become &#039;politically expedient&#039;  for the American nomenclatura to send Americans off to foreign killing fields with a Hurrah, a pat on the back, a wink at each other - and no mission and no measurable goals other than to find, fix, close with and kill the enemy. 

If that practice wasn&#039;t dangerous and repugnant enough during the halcyon days when American leadership was at least knowledgeable, marginally capable and (somewhat) patriotic - and we had definable enemies - how dangerous can we suppose it is today with national leadership with none of those qualities?

We are in trouble as a nation also as a somewhat frayed culture.  We have no national leadership. None in the White House and certainly nowhere to be seen in the Cabinet or among our expanding tribe of Czars. 

Congress is controlled by leftist, nihilistic, America disdaining political ghouls interested only in the application of their considerable power not for the benefit of the nation - but to achieve their own narrow political goals, regardless of the costs to our purse, our culture, our national security and our standing among the nations of the world.

Our political parties appear to be reoriented from the country&#039;s and citizen&#039;s welfare to primarily that of the Party, itself, and its leadership.

So, what if we &#039;win&#039; or &#039;lose&#039; in Afghanistan? What will be our next (mis)step at home or abroad. That is the leadership&#039;s attitude - in my opinion.

I am too quickly becoming convinced that our national leadership is getting even with this &#039;rotten country&#039;.  Anybody here old enough to remember the anti-everything Weather Underground&#039;s warning of the sixties: (I paraphrase). &#039;You are too strong for us - at this moment. We will disappear today, and tomorrow we will reappear among you as your political leadership, teachers, police, parents, grandparents, etc., etc.,&#039;

Well, Red State friends:  They&#039;re Here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to Streiff to coal the fires in the belly.</p>
<p>As an old soldier who spent several years in Vietnam during that &#8216;late unpleasantness&#8217;, I subscribe to the doctrine which states: &#8220;If you are going to fight . . .<br />
   Fight.<br />
Don&#8217;t **** around.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, before our military will ever be permitted to take the fight to the enemy someone is going to have to precisely state:</p>
<p>  1.  What are our (political, diplomatic, military) goals in Afghanistan? To kill Taliban and deny the country to alQueda is simply NOT a credible national goal of any  type (although I find nothing wrong with it).</p>
<p>  2.   For the love of god, for once since the end of WWII will somebody PLEASE define the term : &#8220;WIN&#8221; as it applies to the military effort in that particular rat hole.</p>
<p>Not only must a purpose and military mission be defined for Afghanistan, but also someone must articulate criteria to determine when our national security goals have been met.</p>
<p>Anybody want to take bets upon when or whether this (or any) commander-in-chief will rise to the occasion and offer some guidance on these topics.</p>
<p>My advice is not to take bets on it.</p>
<p>Since the end of WWII it has become &#8216;politically expedient&#8217;  for the American nomenclatura to send Americans off to foreign killing fields with a Hurrah, a pat on the back, a wink at each other &#8211; and no mission and no measurable goals other than to find, fix, close with and kill the enemy. </p>
<p>If that practice wasn&#8217;t dangerous and repugnant enough during the halcyon days when American leadership was at least knowledgeable, marginally capable and (somewhat) patriotic &#8211; and we had definable enemies &#8211; how dangerous can we suppose it is today with national leadership with none of those qualities?</p>
<p>We are in trouble as a nation also as a somewhat frayed culture.  We have no national leadership. None in the White House and certainly nowhere to be seen in the Cabinet or among our expanding tribe of Czars. </p>
<p>Congress is controlled by leftist, nihilistic, America disdaining political ghouls interested only in the application of their considerable power not for the benefit of the nation &#8211; but to achieve their own narrow political goals, regardless of the costs to our purse, our culture, our national security and our standing among the nations of the world.</p>
<p>Our political parties appear to be reoriented from the country&#8217;s and citizen&#8217;s welfare to primarily that of the Party, itself, and its leadership.</p>
<p>So, what if we &#8216;win&#8217; or &#8216;lose&#8217; in Afghanistan? What will be our next (mis)step at home or abroad. That is the leadership&#8217;s attitude &#8211; in my opinion.</p>
<p>I am too quickly becoming convinced that our national leadership is getting even with this &#8216;rotten country&#8217;.  Anybody here old enough to remember the anti-everything Weather Underground&#8217;s warning of the sixties: (I paraphrase). &#8216;You are too strong for us &#8211; at this moment. We will disappear today, and tomorrow we will reappear among you as your political leadership, teachers, police, parents, grandparents, etc., etc.,&#8217;</p>
<p>Well, Red State friends:  They&#8217;re Here.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Democrats bashed Bush because he took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan, by focusing on the wrong war in Iraq.  It was political grandstanding for the Democrats to a degree, as right after 9/11 we had alot of both domestic and international support for going after the terriorists in Afghan.  We didn&#039;t have that support for going into Iraq, and, the Democrats, with their Bush Dereagment syndrome, tried to &quot;use&quot; the Afghan war to their advantage by saying that we should have stayed in Afghanistan.  I agree that we should not have wound down their as much as we did.  But, the Democrats, being anti-military, anti-war to begin with, just used Afghanistan as an excuse to bash Bush.  Now that we seem to be in a quagmire in Afghanistan, with Russia cutting off the routes for supplies, and now only allowing us to use routes thru their country, at great cost, and only for non-equipment, we have been put in a pansy pickle.  How much has the Afghanistan government charged us to keep our lease on the base at Bagram?  Didn&#039;t Russia offer them more money in lenient loans, as they were cutting off our supply line routes?  Obama has zip, zero, nada, experience in fighting wars.  Obama has appologized for the US in many foreign countries. Wouldn&#039;t we love to know what the conversation went like with Obama and Putin?  Obama probably won over many many because he said that he would get us out of Iraq immediately.  What was the most hated thing about Bush- the Iraq war.  Now McChrystal is asking for approximately 30 to 40 thousand more troops in Afghanistan.  Obama has already made some noise about not wanting to use the word &quot;victory.&quot;  He is either going to anger some of his biggest supporters by trusting his military leaders, and backing their requests, or, he is going to create a whole new anti-war sentiment in the country, just as volitile and uguly, as the anti-war push against Bush.  He&#039;s in a rock and a hard place, mainly because he was so vocal against the Iraq war.  Now he has his own war, that he can&#039;t blame on Bush.  I suspect he will flounder and procrastinate, get alot of our military killed by his dawdling, and then will pull everyone out, and allow the US to have the same defeat and humiliation as we had in Vietnam, again with and by  a Democrat Pres.  He made his bed, and now he has to lie in it.  Glenn Beck said last week, &quot;we need to just get out of Afghanistan&quot; and I was taken aback until he followed that statement with &quot;if we are not going to fight to win, just pull out, and not get any more of our military people killed.&quot;  I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Democrats bashed Bush because he took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan, by focusing on the wrong war in Iraq.  It was political grandstanding for the Democrats to a degree, as right after 9/11 we had alot of both domestic and international support for going after the terriorists in Afghan.  We didn&#8217;t have that support for going into Iraq, and, the Democrats, with their Bush Dereagment syndrome, tried to &#8220;use&#8221; the Afghan war to their advantage by saying that we should have stayed in Afghanistan.  I agree that we should not have wound down their as much as we did.  But, the Democrats, being anti-military, anti-war to begin with, just used Afghanistan as an excuse to bash Bush.  Now that we seem to be in a quagmire in Afghanistan, with Russia cutting off the routes for supplies, and now only allowing us to use routes thru their country, at great cost, and only for non-equipment, we have been put in a pansy pickle.  How much has the Afghanistan government charged us to keep our lease on the base at Bagram?  Didn&#8217;t Russia offer them more money in lenient loans, as they were cutting off our supply line routes?  Obama has zip, zero, nada, experience in fighting wars.  Obama has appologized for the US in many foreign countries. Wouldn&#8217;t we love to know what the conversation went like with Obama and Putin?  Obama probably won over many many because he said that he would get us out of Iraq immediately.  What was the most hated thing about Bush- the Iraq war.  Now McChrystal is asking for approximately 30 to 40 thousand more troops in Afghanistan.  Obama has already made some noise about not wanting to use the word &#8220;victory.&#8221;  He is either going to anger some of his biggest supporters by trusting his military leaders, and backing their requests, or, he is going to create a whole new anti-war sentiment in the country, just as volitile and uguly, as the anti-war push against Bush.  He&#8217;s in a rock and a hard place, mainly because he was so vocal against the Iraq war.  Now he has his own war, that he can&#8217;t blame on Bush.  I suspect he will flounder and procrastinate, get alot of our military killed by his dawdling, and then will pull everyone out, and allow the US to have the same defeat and humiliation as we had in Vietnam, again with and by  a Democrat Pres.  He made his bed, and now he has to lie in it.  Glenn Beck said last week, &#8220;we need to just get out of Afghanistan&#8221; and I was taken aback until he followed that statement with &#8220;if we are not going to fight to win, just pull out, and not get any more of our military people killed.&#8221;  I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen also to TBone above!

The chicken-hearted Republicans are afraid to stand up and say exactly what we have written here: but this is exactly what America needs to realize.

W. Bush&#039;s tongue-tied leadership - and at times just downright silent leadership - never delivered this message forcefully enough.  Part of the problem also was Rumsfeld&#039;s idea on doing things as cheaply as possible: that led to disenchantment and the growth of the anti-war movement, and ultimately was a factor in electing NObama.

But of course we cannot expect leadership from NObama for a war.  He has little to no interest in Afghanistan, as is obvious.  

As always, ignore the rhetoric: what is he doing?  

If we get hit again, he will simply apologize to the attackers for our years of racist imperialism and hand them a bouquet of flowers.  He will tell America it is time to move on and not seek revenge against those with legitimate complaints against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen also to TBone above!</p>
<p>The chicken-hearted Republicans are afraid to stand up and say exactly what we have written here: but this is exactly what America needs to realize.</p>
<p>W. Bush&#8217;s tongue-tied leadership &#8211; and at times just downright silent leadership &#8211; never delivered this message forcefully enough.  Part of the problem also was Rumsfeld&#8217;s idea on doing things as cheaply as possible: that led to disenchantment and the growth of the anti-war movement, and ultimately was a factor in electing NObama.</p>
<p>But of course we cannot expect leadership from NObama for a war.  He has little to no interest in Afghanistan, as is obvious.  </p>
<p>As always, ignore the rhetoric: what is he doing?  </p>
<p>If we get hit again, he will simply apologize to the attackers for our years of racist imperialism and hand them a bouquet of flowers.  He will tell America it is time to move on and not seek revenge against those with legitimate complaints against us.</p>
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		<title>By: ss396</title>
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		<dc:creator>ss396</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Pillar&#039;s thesis, we only need our military bases for basic training; the rest of it can be accomplished over the internet.  Yah? You betcha!

The sheer absurdity of that statement is beyond description. The latest dismal concerns floating around are comparisons of Afghanistan to Viet Nam.  You want a comparison?  Allowing the enemy a sanctuary determines that the war cannot ever be won.  That was one of the major lessons learned from Viet Nam. You don&#039;t give an enemy sanctuary; you don&#039;t give an enemy quarter.  

And you sure as #### do not bleed the US soldier to death, drop by [political calculus] drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Pillar&#8217;s thesis, we only need our military bases for basic training; the rest of it can be accomplished over the internet.  Yah? You betcha!</p>
<p>The sheer absurdity of that statement is beyond description. The latest dismal concerns floating around are comparisons of Afghanistan to Viet Nam.  You want a comparison?  Allowing the enemy a sanctuary determines that the war cannot ever be won.  That was one of the major lessons learned from Viet Nam. You don&#8217;t give an enemy sanctuary; you don&#8217;t give an enemy quarter.  </p>
<p>And you sure as #### do not bleed the US soldier to death, drop by [political calculus] drop.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has always fittted the Leftest agenda. Obama has no problem not winning in Afghanistan and no problem staying their at a level that will slowly grind up our soldiers. Once the people have gotten tired of the drip, drip, drip of American lives, Obama and the Dems will cut off war funding and bring the troops home in defeat demeaning every American life lost there. Of course this will make it far more difficult to deploy troops in the future and justify draconian reductions in military spending.

I mean really, does anyone think that Obama cares about American soldiers dying?

And who says the Left can&#039;t learn from history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has always fittted the Leftest agenda. Obama has no problem not winning in Afghanistan and no problem staying their at a level that will slowly grind up our soldiers. Once the people have gotten tired of the drip, drip, drip of American lives, Obama and the Dems will cut off war funding and bring the troops home in defeat demeaning every American life lost there. Of course this will make it far more difficult to deploy troops in the future and justify draconian reductions in military spending.</p>
<p>I mean really, does anyone think that Obama cares about American soldiers dying?</p>
<p>And who says the Left can&#8217;t learn from history.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rewriting of history once again begins, as Obama&#039;s campaign position gets retooled for his domestic agenda, to strengthen his position with the hard left. 

And if Islamist control of Afghanistan and Pakistan is the cost of keeping the hard left on board with his ObamaCare &quot;compromises&quot;&lt;strong&gt;*&lt;/strong&gt; to get it through, so be it.

Foreign policy is always subservient to domestic policy priorities and partisan political interests in this administration.

&lt;strong&gt;*&lt;/strong&gt; I put quotes around &quot;compromises&quot; because Obama knows that he&#039;ll get to Single Payer in the end once he gets the camel&#039;s nose under the tent. So it&#039;s no compromise he has in mind, just a road bump. He&#039;s got the long view, which some of the hard left enthusiasts don&#039;t have; they want it now, Obama is willing to set up the framework for Communism and wait a bit longer for the rest to fall in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rewriting of history once again begins, as Obama&#8217;s campaign position gets retooled for his domestic agenda, to strengthen his position with the hard left. </p>
<p>And if Islamist control of Afghanistan and Pakistan is the cost of keeping the hard left on board with his ObamaCare &#8220;compromises&#8221;<strong>*</strong> to get it through, so be it.</p>
<p>Foreign policy is always subservient to domestic policy priorities and partisan political interests in this administration.</p>
<p><strong>*</strong> I put quotes around &#8220;compromises&#8221; because Obama knows that he&#8217;ll get to Single Payer in the end once he gets the camel&#8217;s nose under the tent. So it&#8217;s no compromise he has in mind, just a road bump. He&#8217;s got the long view, which some of the hard left enthusiasts don&#8217;t have; they want it now, Obama is willing to set up the framework for Communism and wait a bit longer for the rest to fall in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/09/16/obamas-retreat-in-afghanistan/#comment-2322</link>
		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just caught on the radio a NObama spokesman saying that they &quot;did not want to put the cart before the horse.&quot;  I am not sure what that means in the context, other than they will just keep doing the minimum in combat, rather than trying to win and end things quickly!

To be fair: W. Bush fooled around too long with NATO nonsense in Afghanistan.  I have read that radiation bombs, missiles with MOAB&#039;s etc. are in our arsenal: in those cave areas they should have been used a long time ago.  Seal the caves off and in two weeks anybody left alive will be dead. 

But if W. Bush did not use them, for whatever reason, we know that NObama will not consider them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just caught on the radio a NObama spokesman saying that they &#8220;did not want to put the cart before the horse.&#8221;  I am not sure what that means in the context, other than they will just keep doing the minimum in combat, rather than trying to win and end things quickly!</p>
<p>To be fair: W. Bush fooled around too long with NATO nonsense in Afghanistan.  I have read that radiation bombs, missiles with MOAB&#8217;s etc. are in our arsenal: in those cave areas they should have been used a long time ago.  Seal the caves off and in two weeks anybody left alive will be dead. </p>
<p>But if W. Bush did not use them, for whatever reason, we know that NObama will not consider them either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is at heart a left-wing pacifist: if that were not so, he would not be idly coasting nowhere in Afghanistan, dithering as to whether or not a &quot;surge Iraqi-style&quot; is warranted, when it was warranted months ago.  It is obvious he is ill at ease with things military: everything about him becomes even more artificial if he needs to deal with soldiers.

Others and I myself have written about the contradictions inherent in electing a crypto-pacifist president in an era when pacifism equates to a kick-me sign taped to the back of Uncle Sam, as you indicate above.

As I wrote this morning, storm clouds are gathering in various places, and Nobama&#039;s little dove of peace will be hit by lightning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is at heart a left-wing pacifist: if that were not so, he would not be idly coasting nowhere in Afghanistan, dithering as to whether or not a &#8220;surge Iraqi-style&#8221; is warranted, when it was warranted months ago.  It is obvious he is ill at ease with things military: everything about him becomes even more artificial if he needs to deal with soldiers.</p>
<p>Others and I myself have written about the contradictions inherent in electing a crypto-pacifist president in an era when pacifism equates to a kick-me sign taped to the back of Uncle Sam, as you indicate above.</p>
<p>As I wrote this morning, storm clouds are gathering in various places, and Nobama&#8217;s little dove of peace will be hit by lightning.</p>
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