The Tim Geithner Dead Pool



Tim Geithner should probably start packing his stuff. Now. Because what we have in the article in today’s Washington Post called “How the Fed Failed to Tell Obama About The Bonuses” is nothing more or less than an attempt to load up Mr. Geithner with unique responsibility for the AIG bonus fiasco, set him ablaze, and send him drifting out to sea.

When one cuts through all the hooey, this is the narrative that the White House and its media accomplices would like for you to believe: the risk-averse bureaucrats in the Fed made a unilateral decision to allow AIG to award bonuses to the guys who nearly brought AIG down. They did so without consulting with the White House, or much of anyone else. They did so without realizing that it would be a political disaster. The guy at the Fed who did this was Tim Geithner, who, by the way, is now at Treasury and still screwing up royally although The One retains complete confidence in him.

This is nonsense on its face.

According to the Post, the Fed was informed back in January that bonuses would be awarded in the amount o $165 million by March 15.

Chris Dodd who was sucked into the seething maelstrom yesterday when he apparently confessed to Wolf Blitzer on CNN that he inserted the loophole in the AIG bailout that allowed the bonuses has recanted, or rather clarified that statement, by saying:

“I’m the one who has led the fight against excessive executive compensation, often over the objections of many. I did not want to make any changes to my original Senate-passed amendment but I did so at the request of Administration officials, who gave us no indication that this was in any way related to AIG. Let me be clear – I was completely unaware of these AIG bonuses until I learned of them last week.

We don’t know when that happened but we know it happened before February 9 when the Senate passed the stimulus bill.

This quote makes it seem as though Dodd was punked by either Geithner — I think we can all unite in saying that Geithner doesn’t have that play-it-fast-and-loose aura about him, for heaven’s sake, look at the cheap suits he wears – or by the White House.

The statement, because of Dodd’s assertion that the language was not associated directly with AIG, also leads one to believe we’d better get used to a parade of rich guys getting richer by bonuses paid out of bailout money.

And let’s not forget that at some point this negotiation over language with Dodd passed through the Office of Management and Budget giving additional weight to the notion that Geithner is the fall guy on this.

Anyway

Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, a central figure in the decision to bail out AIG last fall as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, said in an interview yesterday that he had not been aware of the size of the bonuses and the timing of the payments.

“I was stunned when I learned how bad this was on Tuesday [March 10],” Geithner said. “I shouldn’t have been in that position, but it’s my responsibility and I accept that.”

Unbelievably, Geithner treated this bid of bad news as a fine wine, hoping that it would improve with age. Allegedly, he called AIG chief executive Edward M. Liddy on March 11, demanding that the bonuses not being paid. Apparently, this resulted in Geithner being invited to perform a physiologically difficult feat, or something similar, and the next day notified the White House.

AIG’s story is a lot different.

AIG executives say the Fed had been intimately involved in reviewing the contracts before the first dime was paid. The payments, which were due by March 15, were ready to be distributed last Tuesday, a senior AIG executive said. But the firm didn’t get the go-ahead from government officials to make the payments until late last week.

“We weren’t authorized until Thursday night,” the AIG executive said. “We were negotiating with the Treasury and the Federal Reserve. Treasury indicated that they needed it cleared by the White House, as well. We hit the go button for the payments on Friday.”

What makes this whole story line improbable is this statement:

The Fed officials did not anticipate the political firestorm that would erupt over the bonuses, a senior government official said. “They clearly underestimated the matter,” the source said.

A bureaucrat in the Fed is not going to be smart enough to anticipate what is going to happen when $165 million in bonuses is paid out? Don’t believe it. The only reason they didn’t “anticipate the political firestorm” is because they were told to not worry about it.

It is becoming abundantly clear that the White House asked Chris Dodd to modify the stimulus bill language to allow these and other bonuses. (Heaven knows what else was included in that dog’s breakfast of pork and self-dealing that we don’t know about but when you don’t let people read the bill before passage you have no right to be surprised over stuff like this.) What is equally apparent is that AIG was in communication with Treasury and the person they were talking to was not Tim Geithner.

How long the Obama Administration will drag out Geithner’s public humiliation is an open question it is increasingly clear that Geithner is not setting policy; he’s answering phones and taking messages.


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Geithner needs to go, and take a few others with him. (nt)

RJD (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:44PM EST (link)

When do we get to start calling it Bonusgate? n/t

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:54PM EST (link)

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“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Dave in Fla....I think you need to modify that just a tad...Obonusgate has a better ring to it...nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:59PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

Problem At Treasury?????

Bourbeau Thursday, March 19th at 1:56PM EST (link)

What a shock? Here I thought we had the most indispensable tax cheat on the planet, in Secretary Geithner, and now they’re telling us that may just not be enough to save him. Hopefully, Secretary Geithner realizes the handwriting on the wall, and pulls the plug and gets back into his NY suburban home before anyone buys it. What an absolute disgrace. This is what happens when you let morons in DC get inside a business of any kind – finger pointing el grande. The White House has there hands all over this; they’ve set Geithner up to take the fall; and they’re hoping he falls on the sword. The only problem then will be whenThe One will realizes that when Geithner goes down, the markets will realize there’s no one working on the toxic assets on the banks balance sheets, and we’ll be back in the soup waiting on a solution. Have we reached the magic 100 days yet? What a mess!!!!

Big O can't let Geithner go yet.

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:27PM EST (link)

Everyone with any brains knows that Giethner wasn’t the man with the power to say OK. AIG made it plain that he had to talk to the WH to get the go-ahead.

If he throws Geithner under the bus for doing exactly what he told him to do, he’ll never get anyone to work for him at Treasury. And these next four years would be hard for him if he gets stuck with Scrooge McDuck for Sec of Treas.

Proper grammar saves lives.

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We'd be lucky to get Scrooge McDuck for SecTreas.

janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:34PM EST (link)

That dude ALWAYS had a huge pile of money! And he sounded less like a cartoon character than Barney Frank.

 
 
 

I picked April 16th the other day when Moe started a pool on this.

janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:59PM EST (link)

I’m thinking that was way too generous. I think Moe had March 19th. I’m taking my first pick back and saying March 23rd by noon. As for Dodd the Fraud, I’m going to have to go with Nov. 2010, unless he does the clearly right thing and resigns.

Yeah, that’s going to happen.

I'll stick with my March 27th, 2pm pick (n/t)

Finrod (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:22PM EST (link)

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Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

 
 

Did you ever think

10ksnooker (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:12PM EST (link)

The Fed failed to tell Obama, because he already knew?

What did TOTUS know and when did he know it.

I think I say that pretty clearly

streiff (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:20PM EST (link)

It is becoming abundantly clear that the White House asked Chris Dodd to modify the stimulus bill language to allow these and other bonuses.

From this article I think David Axelrod knew, he didn’t care, he’s scared because of the fallout, and Geithner is the odd man out.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 

The MSM has given the Republicans and

robmikpet (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:46PM EST (link)

conservatives a powerful weapon.

No one may have any negative impact on the Messiah. Therefore, this is the new attack method of the right.

1) the blogosphere just needs to pick any Dem or Leftist

2) tell stories about how they will impact Obama’s presidency for the worse

3) watch the MSM destroy them, even if they are Dems

Im down with this line of thinking

Alberta (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:08PM EST (link)

We should at least try it out.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

 

good idea! nt

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:34PM EST (link)

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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these guys are dead men walking...

franklinslocke Thursday, March 19th at 3:13PM EST (link)

I don’t see either Geithner nor Dodd making it until September. Both of them have too much baggage on this issue and so many others.

Besides, since Dodd is trailing in the polls in his State, the DNC will want him out to get a better candidate to keep that seat.

http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/

Dodd

justatron (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:32PM EST (link)

I bet he stays in until 2010, however we might get a “retirement” announcement sometime before the summer, with plenty of time for another Dem to ramp up a campaign for the seat. More time with the family and all that jazz…

Serve Dodd right if his family said "No thanks" on him spending more time with them. n/t

janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:50PM EST (link)

No way Dodd is stepping down

sconklin (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 8:34PM EST (link)

Christopher Dodd has been around for so long and knows how to play the game. He has a sense of arrogance and entitlement that will not allow him to flinch over this. In his mind this too shall pass

 
 
 
 

this won't be popular here but...

californiatransplant Thursday, March 19th at 4:39PM EST (link)

i certainly don’t agree with everything the fed or the treasury are doing, but i’ve no doubt as to their commitment and desire to “do good”. you may not like how geithner has gone about this but everyone involved is trying to prevent the world’s economy from completely collapsing. calling for his head over $165M in retention bonuses just seems silly to me. don’t get me wrong — $165M or so isn’t chump-change but in the grand-scheme of what’s going on — it’s meaningless other than political fodder.

Its not Fed or Treasury

antisocial (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:09PM EST (link)

Its Obama trying to slip through bonuses. He got Chris Dodd to modify the language. And then HE signed it. He is paying back his campaign contributors.

These were Obama Bonuses.

Leave poor Geithner alone.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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californiatransplant, I thought I remembered you from the Sarah Palin

janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:16PM EST (link)

days. When I went back and looked at your posting history, why, sure enough, you look down your elitist little nose at us poor rightwing nutjobs. So your comment above is nothing more than an apology for how your guy has really screwed the pooch on the economy. No, I adamantly do not believe they are trying to prevent the world economy from collapsing. From all the incompetent actions so far, I’d say it’s just the opposite.

Would you like to know how many of us feel on their competency on national security and foreign policy? How’s about our perception of them as patriots and good Americans? Voters such as you put this joker in office, and citizens such as me are paying for it–but so are you. Enjoy!

i assure you...

californiatransplant Thursday, March 19th at 5:58PM EST (link)

… if you really knew me you’d know i’m not at all as you described. i even went back and looked at a few old posts. how you draw those conclusions about me i don’t know — perhaps it’s just that i disagree with you and, therefore, because i do i’m an elitist?

in any event — i disagreed with GWB on just about everything. no surprise i’m sure. but, i never doubted his motivations. lots did. i didn’t. i always thought he was trying to do the right thing — even if it was “wrong”. i still believe that. i’m struck by how many absolutely believe that the new administration is *trying* to screw things up — as opposed to just disagreeing with what they’re doing and working to change it.

californiatransplant, this is what you said on Sept. 4th, 12:54 a.m. EDT:

janis (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 12:33PM EST (link)

“for reasoned discussion indie. redstate is a preach to the choir site. and if you’re not 100% inline with the masses here, you’re banned. It has nothing to do with “being respectful.”

so,best to just lurk and, maybe, try to get some insight into how these people think.”

So you want to try again? Because that’s what I used to draw conclusions about you. You are elitist, leftist, and, like your tin-god president, unable to be honest about your true feelings and thoughts.

By the way, do you have to read from a teleprompter when you post here?

 
 
 

It's not the $165 million

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:28PM EST (link)

It’s the lies, ineptitude and blatant incompetence.

Of course, honesty and competence aren’t liberal values.

“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.

 

reading comprehension is your friend

streiff (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:33PM EST (link)

if you can show me where I took any of the positions you describe I’ll kiss your butt at high noon and give you an hour to draw a crowd

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

I've gotta put that in my list of invective

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:49PM EST (link)

Greatr comeback line, particularly the add-on at the end.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

 

as appealing as that sounds...

californiatransplant Thursday, March 19th at 6:02PM EST (link)

i’ll have to pass :)

that said, i should have been clearer. apologies. my comments were more general in nature having read others calling for geithner to go.

thanks.

 
 

Do good for who?

Achance (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 12:39PM EST (link)

This whole thing is just a bunch of Ivy League frat boys getting over on the rubes and they got the useful idiots on the left to elect the Obamunist to help them. They’ll have the money they stole safely stashed out of the US when he turns us into the next great Socialist Workers’ Paradise.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

well...

californiatransplant Thursday, March 19th at 5:35PM EST (link)

i would instead say that honesty and competence are values for most — liberal and conservative. but, both sides often fail to live up to them. plenty of examples as i’m sure you’re aware.

Please, leave the moral relavism behind at Kos

The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:57AM EST (link)

Streiff didn’t say Geithner should lose his position because of the $165 million, and neither has anybody else on this thread. He said Obama is going to throw Geithner under the bus like he did Jeremiah Wright and all his other steadfast friends; well at least until it was getting a bit uncomfortable keeping them on the bus and expedient option was another bloodless killing.

Geithner was clearly incompetent even before he was appointed, and the vetting team even more so – owing more than the average person makes in a year in back taxes isn’t just a great big red flag the person is incompetent, it’s a whole rig of flashing neon lights that would do a Vegas casino proud. And Team Obama didn’t merely ignore it, they celebrated it.

Not mind you, that The Big 0′s come up with one appointment yet that I would allow to be recording secretary for the local Boy Scout troop.

 
 

All I know is....

Jeff Weimer (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 6:30PM EST (link)

You must have done something really wrong if you’re on the other side of an issue to Medea Benjamin, Mr. President.

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.
-Voltaire