As everyone knows, John Edwards admitted yesterday to carrying on an adulterous relationship with a “documentary film maker” while his wife was battling cancer. Yes, we know, as we’ve known since 1992, that EVERYONE commits adultery but the bar of decency and common sense while engaging in adultery has certainly been lowered in the past 24 hours. You can step right across it now.
Part of the reason for Edwards to admitting to the affair, other than being caught by a slew of National Enquirer reporters while sneaking into a hotel to visit his former paramour and her child allegedly by an Edwards staffer (as Ace said yesterday, this woman was apparently passed around like a bong at a Phish concert) was that “clearing this up” was the price for an Edwards role at the Democrat convention.
Well, not so fast.
Barack Obama was quick to demonstrate that there is always room for one more under the bus. This by way of Jake Tapper:
“If I’m not mistaken, I think that they already indicated, the Edwards family indicated that they probably wouldn’t be attending the convention,” Obama said, per ABC News’ Sunlen Miller. “I understand that. This is a difficult and painful time to them. And I think they need to work through that process of healing. My sense is that that’s going to be their top priority.
“John Edwards was a great champion of working people during the course of his campaign,” Obama continued. “Many of his themes are ones that Democrats as a whole share. Those will be amplified in the convention, and I wish them all well. “
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Under the bus?
PermDude Saturday, August 9th at 9:35AM EST (link)I don’t see how this can be said to be pushing Edwards “under the bus” in any way.
Edwards was supposed to be at the convention.
JKH1232 (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:39AM EST (link)He was supposed to be a major fundraiser for Obama. He was supposed to have a cabinet position.
Obama’s told him to take a hike.
your inability
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:41AM EST (link)to understand a pretty elementary concept is distinctly your problem, not mine
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Yeah, that was a "conspicuous by its absence"...
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:43AM EST (link)…kind of moment.
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Hmmm....
Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:44AM EST (link)Edwards had an affair back in ’06. He cheated on his cancer-stricken wife.
He lied repeatedly to the media and to his supporters during his campaign about the affair.
There’s a possibility (though it’s not been proven yet) that he had made Rielle Hunter pregnant through this extramarital affair.
Hmmm…let me think — nope. Can’t find anything wrong with this.
Obama has been waiting to exhale
blooch Saturday, August 9th at 9:46AM EST (link)those words for some time now.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
Indeed he has...
zeebeach Saturday, August 9th at 10:07AM EST (link)At least a couple of weeks, while ABC cut their deal with Edwards for the big interview/confession. Kudos to ABC for having the journalistic integrity to go after the story. It’s not enough, but for MSM, it’s something.
Nonsense.
PermDude Saturday, August 9th at 10:11AM EST (link)Edwards did this to himself. There’s no expectation that he’d get a speaking role after admitting to the affair–that’s speculative, at best. Taking that speculation and then using that as a basis for calling out Obama for not inviting the non-invited adds yet another degree of separation to the whole thing.
And people wonder about the MSM making up news…this might as well be on Extra! Politics Edition.
Then, of course, there’s the idea that not having Edwards speak at the convention is somehow a failing of Obama’s. Jeez. Sometimes people want it both ways.
I'm really disappointed.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:19AM EST (link)I was so looking forward to hearing Edwards tell us about Obama’s government run plan to provide childcare for single mothers that couldn’t get the father to step up and take responsibility.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
More subtle than conspicuous
tbrucegodfrey Saturday, August 9th at 10:20AM EST (link)though maybe that makes it more condemning of Edwards in a way.
Speaking from the left, I would note that Elizabeth claims she knew of this mess in 2006, but nonetheless worked to organize liberal-left volunteers and funders by her husband’s “drawing-dead” campaign. Count me as a liberal angry that such resources were wasted on a “7-4 offsuit” candidate when McCain is at least a pair of eights.
Any speculation as to why
blooch Saturday, August 9th at 10:21AM EST (link)Edwards had not already been given a firm invitation to speak at Obama’s 75,000-strong coronation?
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
Fair enough on the subtle/conspicuous thing...
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:25AM EST (link)…that might just be an expectations thing on the part of the individual viewer.
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Came here to comment?
QueenOfCups (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:46AM EST (link)Since Kos is still under blackout on the topic? The hypocrisy is appalling. It’s not even a question of whose guys are more corrupt; how many more of them screw up. The difference is when our guys do it, we don’t go into denial – we call them on it. We don’t make stupid comments about it being a private family matter and therefore not a fit topic of public discussion.
delusional
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:55AM EST (link)show me one convention where the winner’s primary opponents didn’t speak.
You are making a profoundly silly argument to what cause, other than self-beclowning, I haven’t a clue.
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Comments welcome
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 11:00AM EST (link)Welcome to Redstate
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Edwards on Edwards affair
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 11:20AM EST (link)I wondered what Edwards thought about politicians that cheated on their wives, Google is your friend.
*From a CBS News interview broadcast on December 19, 2007:
Katie Couric: Harry Truman said, “A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other.” Some people don’t feel comfortable supporting a candidate who has not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Can you understand their position?
John Edwards: Of course. I mean, for a lot of Americans, including the family that I grew up with … it’s fundamental to how you judge people and human character: Whether you keep your word, whether you keep what is your ultimate word, which is that you love your spouse, and you’ll stay with them…
Couric: So you think it’s an appropriate way to judge a candidate?
Edwards: Yeah. But I don’t think it’s controlling. I mean, I think that, as you point out, there have been American presidents that at least according to the … stories we’ve all heard, that were not faithful, that were in fact good presidents. So I don’t think it controls the issue. But I think it’s certain … something reasonable for people to consider.*
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Too right -nt
Caleb Howe (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 11:23AM EST (link)Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)
"I have to sequester you und...to the jury bus..
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 11:44AM EST (link)Edwards: “Where do I plug in my Hairdryer?”
I may catch flack for this but
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:03PM EST (link)If Elizabeth Edwards has known about this since 2006 then she is part of the lies that John told during 2007 and 2008.
She kept supporting his presidential bid while he lied about it.
The fact that she didn’t know that he was still seeing the woman behind her back should come as no surprise to her as she has let him know that lying is okay with her.
He used her for a prop and she let him. Then he goes behind her back again. Sad.
I may catch flack for this but
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:04PM EST (link)If Elizabeth Edwards has known about this since 2006 then she is part of the lies that John told during 2007 and 2008.
She kept supporting his presidential bid while he lied about it.
The fact that she didn’t know that he was still seeing the woman behind her back should come as no surprise to her as she has let him know that lying is okay with her.
He used her for a prop and she let him. Then he goes behind her back again. Sad.
I may cach flack for this but
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:20PM EST (link)Elizabeth Edwards is part of the lie if she has known about this since 2006. She kept supporting his presidential bid while he lied about it.
It should come as no surprise to her that he would continue to lie to her and go behind her back in 2008.
That being said I still feel sorry for her and wish her well.
I may cach flack for this but
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:20PM EST (link)Elizabeth Edwards is part of the lie if she has known about this since 2006. She kept supporting his presidential bid while he lied about it.
It should come as no surprise to her that he would continue to lie to her and go behind her back in 2008.
That being said I still feel sorry for her and wish her well.
I may cach flack for this but
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:22PM EST (link)Elizabeth Edwards is part of the lie if she has known about this since 2006. She kept supporting his presidential bid while he lied about it.
It should come as no surprise to her that he would continue to lie to her and go behind her back in 2008.
That being said I still feel sorry for her and wish her well.
kos under blackout?
yousef Saturday, August 9th at 12:33PM EST (link)I went over there and saw a diary by Elizabeth Edwards, up on their recommended list, and quite a few others.
what blackout do you reference?
I can’t help but be reminded, here, of John McCain’s seeming prevarication about the time-frame of his beginning to cohabit with Cindy while still married to Carol – before he filed for divorce.
According to his book, he and Carol were separated when he began to see Cindy – which was in April, 1979. His divorce documents apparently state that John and Carol lived together until early January, 1980.
Here’s more from NY Magazine:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/07/latimesquestionsmccainsdiv.html
“…what we loved best about the Los Angeles Times story today was the details about the Reagan family — friends with John and Carol McCain — and how they treated him after the divorce. They rallied around Carol, arranged for a White House job for her, and then gave John the cold shoulder for years. And when Nancy endorsed John for the presidency in March of this year, it was during a brief five-minute photo op. This is all she said:
was decided, and then we endorsed.
Well, obviously this is the nominee of the party.”
Man, she’s still got it!”
once again, sorry for the formatting – I cannot get the hang of it.
What is going on?
Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:35PM EST (link)First it doesn’t post and then it posts 5 times with an expired page in between.
How about...
aardpig Saturday, August 9th at 12:44PM EST (link)…the 2000 Republican convention, where John McCain did not speak?
“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.
Edwards is "past tense" for Obama
poxoma Saturday, August 9th at 12:45PM EST (link)“I don’t see how this can be said to be pushing Edwards “under the bus” in any way.”
Are you kidding? BO has already used “PAST TENSE” concerning Edwards. Notice he used “WAS” in his recent statement: “John Edwards was a great champion of working people during the course of his campaign,”
The next right thing to do is to get a hair sample from Edward’s $800 hairdresser to perform a phenol/chloroform DNA extraction to confirm Edwards IS the father of that baby girl.
Did Obama know and lie to the public too? Almost certainly
paint_it_red (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:48PM EST (link)Although there is nothing in the news reports as yet to suggest Obama knew, consider a few facts that suggest perhaps he did:
It is routine for Presidential contenders to do negative opposition research on the primary opponents, and after Clinton, Obama’s only serious primary opponent was Edwards.
It is routine for Presidential nominees to do negative opposition research on their potential veep picks, and it is implausible to suggest that with Edwards popularity he was not on that list.
Obama’s comment that this was “not the John Edwards I knew” almost exactly echoes his lie about Rev Wright being “not the man I knew for 20 years.”
Remember back to January, when Edwards jumped to Obama’s aid in a debate and acted mostly like an attack dog for Obama against Clinton? The press were all over it, saying they were “ganging up” on her. I remember thinking that made no political sense at the time and there was something funny going on there.
Then, despite the fact Edwards was poised to bring in a solid 15% or so in state after state and solidify his “kingmaker” status. Then he inexplicably dropped out. Without Edwards have done so when he did, Clinton would easily have held on in February and Obama would never have built the momentum he did.
Then, Edwards did not endorse Obama. Even when NC came up he did not. Pundits could not explain it. He did not endorse Clinton either, but eventually he endorsed Obama after it no longer mattered and his wife endorsed Clinton’s health plan and tacitly her. My belief is that Clinton cottoned on that something was up and her people figured the secret out too. Neither one wanted to be the one to “out” Edwards, but they both had the goods on them, and that’s why he did not play the kingmaker role he could have played this spring.
Circumstantial? Yes. But if Obama (and Clinton for that matter) knew, then others knew they knew. Perhaps this could be further investigated or someone will come forward.
“It is not good to cultivate a respect so much for the law as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think is right.” Henry David Thoreau
“The means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.” Martin Luther King Jr.
“If you want peace, work for Justice.” Pope John Paul II
Hey, nice try
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:49PM EST (link)But sorry, this is about Edwards not McCain. We weren’t the ones donating to the campaign of a lying, philandering pig who deigned to lecture us on the values of fidelity while cheating on his dying wife.
But if it makes you feel better knowing the Liz Edwards was a willing participant in fleecing the netroots of their campaign contributions to pay hush money to her husband’s mistress, then by all means enjoy that feeling of superiority.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Obama's Line for Everything
dld1717 (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:52PM EST (link)This is not Edwards I knew
This is not Jermiah Wright i knew
…………
Did Obama know and lie to the public too? Almost certainly
paint_it_red (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:54PM EST (link)Although there is nothing in the news reports as yet to suggest Obama knew, consider a few facts that suggest perhaps he did:
It is routine for Presidential contenders to do negative opposition research on the primary opponents, and after Clinton, Obama’s only serious primary opponent was Edwards.
It is routine for Presidential nominees to do negative opposition research on their potential veep picks, and it is implausible to suggest that with Edwards popularity he was not on that list.
Obama’s comment that this was “not the John Edwards I knew” almost exactly echoes his lie about Rev Wright being “not the man I knew for 20 years.”
Remember back to January, when Edwards jumped to Obama’s aid in a debate and acted mostly like an attack dog for Obama against Clinton? The press were all over it, saying they were “ganging up” on her. I remember thinking that made no political sense at the time and there was something funny going on there.
Then, despite the fact Edwards was poised to bring in a solid 15% or so in state after state and solidify his “kingmaker” status. Then he inexplicably dropped out. Without Edwards have done so when he did, Clinton would easily have held on in February and Obama would never have built the momentum he did.
Then, Edwards did not endorse Obama. Even when NC came up he did not. Pundits could not explain it. He did not endorse Clinton either, but eventually he endorsed Obama after it no longer mattered and his wife endorsed Clinton’s health plan and tacitly her. My belief is that Clinton cottoned on that something was up and her people figured the secret out too. Neither one wanted to be the one to “out” Edwards, but they both had the goods on them, and that’s why he did not play the kingmaker role he could have played this spring.
Circumstantial? Yes. But if Obama (and Clinton for that matter) knew, then others knew they knew. Perhaps this could be further investigated or someone will come forward.
“It is not good to cultivate a respect so much for the law as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think is right.” Henry David Thoreau
“The means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.” Martin Luther King Jr.
“If you want peace, work for Justice.” Pope John Paul II
McCain did speak in 2000
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 12:56PM EST (link)He was the opening speaker on August 1st.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
show me one convention where the winner's primary opponents didn't speak
obama_con Saturday, August 9th at 12:57PM EST (link)Is Ron Paul speaking at the Republican National Convention? Didn’t think so!
“Yes we can!”
Egg on my face!
aardpig Saturday, August 9th at 1:01PM EST (link)I searched through the Wiki article, and couldn’t see his name anywhere. Turns out the ‘match case’ option was somehow set, which stymied me. That, and I’m in bed with dysentery. Bah!
Anyhow, apologies!
“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.
Oh! We've have been wounded! Ouch Ouch!
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:03PM EST (link)The Ron Paul accusation has been leveled, and we have no rhetorical response! Oh the agony! Oh the horror! What will we do! We must run and hide from the scourge of the Ron Paul accusation!
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
I'm just going to make a couple of points
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:04PM EST (link)while I’m drop kicking you.
The thread isn’t about McCain.
Quibbling over a few months 30 years ago doesn’t make you look smart. In fact it makes you look pretty dumb.
Even if true, McCain has admitted to being chroncially unfaithful to his wife. What point you’re making is just beyond me.
His wife wasn’t terminally ill.
He wasn’t running for office.
We know about this because McCain told us not because the National Enquirer sent a platoon of reporters to track him down in some woman’s hotel room.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
*chuckle*
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:05PM EST (link)I always blame my goofs on being sick or drunk too.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
okay...
yousef Saturday, August 9th at 1:05PM EST (link)but you do support the “philandering pig” presidential candidate this time around?
I know you say this is about Edwards, and not McCain – but why is Edwards worthy of our notice? Is he running for anything?
I thought that lying and adultery were important issues for some, in this election season, highlighted by Edwards’ reprehensible actions.
Of the two candidates before us, one appears to have been able to rise from a broken home to exemplify the kind of family values that I, for one, find admirable and worthy of emulation – while the other came from privilege, to treat his vows as garbage.
There’s a reason why Ronnie and Nancy had no further use for John McCain after they witnessed his treatment of his wife.
Don't worry Dave, "It's just a flesh wound :)"
obama_con Saturday, August 9th at 1:13PM EST (link)Hope yer a Monty Python fan!
Seriously, Edwards is a scumbag, but I don’t see how this reflects on Obama.
As an example, just because Newt tried to get better terms on his divorce while his ex-wife was hospitalized doesn’t make all Republicans that bad either!
“Yes we can!”
Ron Paul? Seriously?
JKH1232 (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:15PM EST (link)I hate to break it to you, but Ron Paul’s not a Republican. I mean, he may say he’s one. But, then again, George Wallace is a Democrat. I mean, hey.
whisper, whisper
RedFox84 Saturday, August 9th at 1:19PM EST (link)pssst… Did you know John McCain once got a divorce?
psst… Did you know that Dick Cheney’s daughter is gay?
Funny how both these were stated by Edwards
More importantly
Adam C (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:26PM EST (link)he has not endorsed McCain for President. I think if he had done that, he might have been allowed to speak. But it’s kinda a pre-requisite.
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Your party, not ours
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:31PM EST (link)Your party is the one spinning trying to digest this Edwards story. We are just on the sidelines laughing at you. Coming here to pathetically try to spin moral equivalence to McCain is just pathetic. Just take your kick in the crotch like a man and delude yourself into thinking that this won’t hurt your precious Democrat brand.
I mean hey, that Ned Lamont thing turned out so well for you too, didn’t it? We really should be thanking you for that, since Joe Lieberman is tunring into the gift that keeps on giving … for us.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
any particular reason
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:33PM EST (link)that you left your deathbed to beclown yourself? I’m really curious. I don’t know how long you’ve been here (okay that’s not true, you joined Aug 1 at 10:06am) but I don’t make statements like that without knowing the answer.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
It's not the affair that bothers me.
JKH1232 (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:34PM EST (link)It’s really the the coverup. John McCain came clean about his stuff years and years ago. Edwards tried to hide it while using his cancer-stricken wife to further his political ambitions.
And, I might add, while calling us all immoral a-holes on poverty. You know, while he was knocking boots with some floozy. And his wife was dying of cancer.
Besides, have you Seen Cindy McCain? Yowza!
Right
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:38PM EST (link)Instead the freak is holding his own rally.
Good riddance. Let’s keep the Twoothers out of the real convention and in the kiddy room instead.
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Is Larry Craig going to be at the RNC?
obama_con Saturday, August 9th at 1:45PM EST (link)If so I’d stay out of the mens room!
“Yes we can!”
You miss the point as usual, obama con.
janis (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:58PM EST (link)Republicans typically are the first to heave their misbehaving politicians overboard. It’s YOUR party that denies until they can’t anymore, and then spins wildly while trying to justify or excuse bad behavior. See “Clinton, Bill; Kennedy, Ted; Franks, Barney; Studds, Gerry; Kilpatrick, Kwame; Spitzer, Elliot, etc. etc. And you RE-ELECT these people over and over again.
Most of the Republican Party called for Craig to step down. Most of us would still choose for him to do so.
Ouch! Ouch! We've been hit by the dreaded Larry Craig reference!
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 1:59PM EST (link)Oh no! Disengage! Disengage! Next will come the Mark Foley salvo!
rolls eyes
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
When ....
von Saturday, August 9th at 1:59PM EST (link)show me one convention where the winner’s primary opponents didn’t speak.
When they admit to having an affair while their wife is dying of cancer?
In the ordinary case, you would be correct: it would be exceptional for someone of Edwards’ stature not to speak at the Democratic convention. But this ain’t the ordinary case, is it? Whatever your past history with this commentator, your present snark is misplaced.
For we have a peculiar power of thinking before we act, and of acting, too, whereas other men are courageous from ignorance but hesitate upon reflection.
And oh by the way--No, you can't. n/t
janis (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:00PM EST (link).
Really?
obama_con Saturday, August 9th at 2:02PM EST (link)“Republicans typically are the first to heave their misbehaving politicians overboard.”
What about David Vitter???
“Yes we can!”
Yet another gay-bashing Obama supporter
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:02PM EST (link)Take your hate elsewhere. I hear they like to talk about your kind of roundups over at Stormfront.
Blam.
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None of us was happy about that episode.
janis (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:11PM EST (link)And many thought he should have stepped down. So there’s one.
What about the legions of folks on your side like the ones I mentioned? What’s your defense of them? And I left out William “In his FREEZER” Jefferson, by the way. Defend away, I’m all ears.
von, bite me
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:19PM EST (link)nt
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Not deathbed...
aardpig Saturday, August 9th at 2:20PM EST (link)…dysentery tends not to kill if you remain hydrated. It just hurts rather. And leaves one in bed, bored — and prone to fact checking a bit, but not enough. I thought I knew the answer, but I was wrong.
“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.
All you got is David Vitter? Many suggested
janis (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:20PM EST (link)that he step down, many didn’t.
What about the list I presented you with? Where’s your defense for them? And I left out William “IN HIS FREEZER!” Jefferson. Defend away, I’m all ears.
Welcome to RS 3.0 -nt-
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:21PM EST (link)-nt-
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
lol
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:23PM EST (link)n/p
Everyone is really funny today..
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:29PM EST (link)or it could be the Box of Wine I’m workin’ on…It’s a luxury now that Gas is down to $4.11 a Gallon…gag
Coming to an interview near you...
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 2:42PM EST (link)…that wasn’t the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew…that wasn’t the Hugo Chavez I knew…that wasn’t the Raul Castro I knew…
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
LOL? Really?
von Saturday, August 9th at 3:05PM EST (link)“Bite me” is what passes for wit these days? No wonder Streiff still has a job.
Anyhoo, Streiff’s defensiveness makes my point better than I ever could. I’m second to no one in my dislike of Edwards. He threw himself under this bus.
For we have a peculiar power of thinking before we act, and of acting, too, whereas other men are courageous from ignorance but hesitate upon reflection.
Let's not get too self righteous
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 3:08PM EST (link)I mean, after all, from all reports we are almost certainly going to have an adulterer giving the acceptance speech at the GOP convention.
McCain’s first wife waited faithfully for him the entire time he was in Vietnam. She didn’t let anyone tell him that she had been horribly injured in a car crash because she was afraid it might add to his burdens in his North Vietnamese hell hole.
He gets out to find a wife who, while loyal, was not the woman he left (I believe the description in his book says something about her being shorter and heavier after the disfiguring accident). Beyond that, he had spent a lot of his youth incarcerated, and had some catching up to do.
From all reports, his activities in the 70s, while still married, were pretty wild, and faithful is not a word I’ve seen used to describe them. I’m not sure he’s ever used the A word to describe his activities, but I don’t believe thinking people harbor many doubts.
That’s all long past, and it seems like the only one with a real stake – his first wife – long ago forgave and forgot. (And let me note that I don’t believe for an instant the unfounded insinuations of a more recent affair published with no credible back up in a supposedly reputable newspaper.)
All the same, here’s the point: let’s not get too enthusiastic waxing moralistic about John Edwards’ incredibly sleazy behavior. The longer the Edwards story plays, the more we are going to hear about McCain’s youthful indiscretions.
In general, it’s a mistake to think our office seekers are less likely to fall prey to the lure of illicit sex than theirs. Politics attracts people who crave external validation. A need for external validation can be met through seduction. There are monogamous men and women in politics (I’m betting Mitt Romney is one) but you don’t have to go too far down the list of leading players in either party to find plenty of known adulterers.
You wanna Dance?
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 3:08PM EST (link)n/p
My bet: Edwards Has Still Not Told All
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 3:23PM EST (link)Does anyone think that Edwards, even now, is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
I don’t, not for a minute.
If the Enquirer has you nailed, the first line of defense is to belittle tabloid journalism. That’s what Edwards has done throughout. The fact is, though, that tabloids are sometimes right, and way ahead of the MSM (think Monica Lewinsky blue dress, Gary Hart and Monkey Business, etc.).
Then there’s the financial support of this woman through bogus contracts, and her being put up in a supporter’s house. Why would that happen?
I don’t know whose kid it is, but I’m pretty sure Edwards has not told all. There may be more to come out on this story.
Obama would be an idiot to get within ten miles of Edwards. Right now, it’s not Obama’s taint, but if he lets Edwards get close, it will be. Under the bus and far away from the convention is exactly where Edwards belongs.
My guess is, beyond not inviting him to speak at the convention, Obama is suggesting that this might be a good time for Edwards and clan to take a nice sabbatical in one of the more remote regions of Australia.
Help me out, does this qualify as troll or moby?
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 3:25PM EST (link)I’m trying to understand the difference.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Neither
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 3:49PM EST (link)I’ve been part of this site way longer than you have, boyo, and my Republican bona fides are beyond question.
Consider it mature advice to not go chasing down rabbit trails.
third alternative
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 3:50PM EST (link)six letter word, begins with the letter S — ends with pid…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Thanks for confirming
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 3:54PM EST (link)Troll
No food for you!
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Hey Hinz..this is a stupid one..I've been waiting for an opening
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 3:55PM EST (link)We're not going to win going off message on loser Edwards
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 3:57PM EST (link)The race is against Obama. Focus is key.
McCain laid out what this race needs to be about pretty well in his radio address:
“America is finally winning in Iraq, and he wants to forfeit. Government is too big, and he wants to grow it. Taxes are too high, and he wants to raise them. Congress spends too much, and he proposes more. We need more energy, and he’s against producing it.”
If you try to make it about who is or is not an adulterer, you are not helping.
Two words...Box O' Wine....Love you
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:01PM EST (link)n/p
By the way
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 4:08PM EST (link)How is that hinzsightreport.com project that you were working so hard on doing? Get it up over 100 visitors a month yet?
absurd
Caleb Howe (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:10PM EST (link)We’re not going to win by talking about football, either, but that’s not going to stop me. (PANTHERS TONIGHT!!)
First you try pointing back at McCain, now it’s ‘this isn’t how you win’. It’s like a map of how to troll.
It’s news. Get over it. Go cry at Kos if you have to whine.
Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)
cheap-shotting reveals character
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:24PM EST (link)what was the point of that dig?
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
It's not that hard
olderthangandalf Saturday, August 9th at 4:28PM EST (link)Talk about it all you want, just don’t go thinking it’s a topic that is going to help McCain win.
Don’t expect it to show up on the talking points of people who are working to help McCain win.
Edwards is a chump and a sleazeball. Big news. Big deal.
The opponent is Obama. Obama is the issue.
too bad the RS 2.0 archives
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:46PM EST (link)aren’t readily available to us. Then you could see the evidence from last year … how shall we say … what a tool this clown really is.
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
He's done...'86'ed as Gramps used to say
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:52PM EST (link)n/p
beginning from a point of ignorance
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 4:52PM EST (link)it’s the best he’s got
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
we need to talk
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 5:10PM EST (link)I have an assignment for you…
if you are willing to take it…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Barack's Bop-O-Meter on a Spin!
acarponzo Saturday, August 9th at 5:15PM EST (link)NEWS FLASH!
The definition of Bop is getting hard to pin down with the Edwards affair.
Date line Cyberspace 8/09/08 5:20pm EST
Bam Bam Obama’s http:www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 27,000 Big Mac McCain now leads with fewer Bops!
Bops for Obama break past Big Mac McCain!!!!!! Is this the Paris Bop effect?????
Google bop-o-rama to see what is in the news!
Movement to paint the White House PINK grows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Voters and Boppers seen defecting to Paris, and we don’t mean Paris France!!!!!!!
McCain’s http://www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 23,000.
Obama’s http://www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 27,000
Hey she is totally hot! –Diddy Widdy unofficial spokesperson for The Paris Hilton for President campaign.
Obama campaign has no comment at this time. A real celebrity in the race now. Panic in Hawaii????
Meanwhile, the McCain camp had the following to say.
“Bop-O-Nomics! Could we please get someone in here to explain Bop theory of economics!”
Paris is now talking more than painting the white house PINK. “Congress is a bit drab. No wonder they can’t get anything done.” PINK it is!!!!! I
Your Bops Count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goooo PINK!!!!!!!!!!
“Bop early and Bop often.” –Alphonso Carponzo
http://www.bop-o-rama.com
Barack's Bop-O-Meter on a Spin!
acarponzo Saturday, August 9th at 5:16PM EST (link)NEWS FLASH!
The definition of Bop is getting hard to pin down with the Edwards affair.
Date line Cyberspace 8/09/08 5:20pm EST
Bam Bam Obama’s http:www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 27,000 Big Mac McCain now leads with fewer Bops!
Bops for Obama break past Big Mac McCain!!!!!! Is this the Paris Bop effect?????
Google bop-o-rama to see what is in the news!
Movement to paint the White House PINK grows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Voters and Boppers seen defecting to Paris, and we don’t mean Paris France!!!!!!!
McCain’s http://www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 23,000.
Obama’s http://www.BOP-O-METER.com tops 27,000
Hey she is totally hot! –Diddy Widdy unofficial spokesperson for The Paris Hilton for President campaign.
Obama campaign has no comment at this time. A real celebrity in the race now. Panic in Hawaii????
Meanwhile, the McCain camp had the following to say.
“Bop-O-Nomics! Could we please get someone in here to explain Bop theory of economics!”
Paris is now talking more than painting the white house PINK. “Congress is a bit drab. No wonder they can’t get anything done.” PINK it is!!!!! I
Your Bops Count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goooo PINK!!!!!!!!!!
“Bop early and Bop often.” –Alphonso Carponzo
http://www.bop-o-rama.com
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:10PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:24PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:25PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:26PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:36PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
Very Complex Big Brother Humor...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 6:59PM EST (link)Semi-Understood by Men who are made to watch that awful show.
You owe me a new PC, speciallist:
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 8:35PM EST (link)I ran this through the Freudian Graphic analysis software and the damn machine blew up!
not the first time thrown Edwards under the bus
paint_it_red (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 8:43PM EST (link)http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/28/johnedwardsshifting_rhetoric.php
“It is not good to cultivate a respect so much for the law as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think is right.” Henry David Thoreau
“The means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.” Martin Luther King Jr.
“If you want peace, work for Justice.” Pope John Paul II
Say, NightTwister, time to pen a new diary just in time for the next 3.0 meltdown.
streetwise (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:12PM EST (link)See if you can beat your record!
:>)
I think I've pinned down what's happening with those
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:18PM EST (link)Just because it errors out, it doesn’t mean it’s not still trying to post.
So if it errors out, don’t just post again. Give it a little while and see if it posts.
Yeah, it’s terribly obnoxious. I wish I could make it nice without massive rewrites.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
And when it 'Hangs' for a long time..don't refresh..click on another link.
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 9:32PM EST (link)n/p
they really aren't
streiff (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:09PM EST (link)beyond question and spouting a string of lefty talking points doesn’t improve them.
One event happened 30 years ago. One just happened.
One event happened to a private citizen. One happened to a presidential candidate and VP contender.
One man had a terminally ill wife. The other didn’t.
One man admitted what he did. The other lied until the National Enquirer tracked him down.
You’ve just erased whatever credibility you had. The next stunt you pull that even approximates this will be the last.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Hinz..Almost missed this
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, August 9th at 10:29PM EST (link)You can contact me here
Hey, it won't be long before he has
dbecraft Sunday, August 10th at 12:48AM EST (link)to distance himself from every Democrat that he knows! After all, either they are morally corrupt, or criminally corrupt! Wait for it…it’s coming…
Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”
I don't disagree with your distinctions
olderthangandalf Sunday, August 10th at 1:13AM EST (link)I don’t mean to imply that McCain and Edwards are equivalent. I put in my original post that McCain’s youthful actions are long ago and long forgiven by the only one who counts. All the same, I can see in context how it might seem I was trying to say something that was not my intended point.
The point I was trying to make was this: We don’t do our nominee any favors by building up a topic that will inevitably focus attention on what was not his finest moment. Sure, McCain is not nearly so bad as Edwards, but do we want to spend time explaining that? Or do we want to talk about the kinds of issues McCain talked about in his radio talk?
Thanks (nt)
Cowboy (Diary) Sunday, August 10th at 1:42AM EST (link)Wow...I'm, really surprised that you would say this
dbecraft Sunday, August 10th at 2:46AM EST (link)with the corrupt Democrats blooming… Just what is your plan? Condemn all Republican on a few, or condemn all Democrats on a bunch?
Geez, I hate politics…!!
Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”
I think everyone's afraid to recommend my blogs now.
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, August 10th at 10:19AM EST (link)I’ve been in an echo chamber since the famous one.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
But instead of
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, August 10th at 10:28AM EST (link)gunning his fellow Dems, Edwards has pointed his guns to McCain.
What a shameless duck! I bet he’s still dreaming of becoming BO’s VP.
That Vid was one of the BEST ever..
speciallist (Diary) Sunday, August 10th at 10:31AM EST (link)I just sent a Case of this fine product to my Critter…And I told him to use it Liber….alot
Got another one to put up now.
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, August 10th at 10:43AM EST (link)I think you’ll like it.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Hillary must be Bopping mad about this!
acarponzo Monday, August 11th at 6:44PM EST (link)Hillary must be seriously wanting to bop Obama’s http://www.bop-o-meter.com on this news. Clearly Edwards made a calculated decision to stay in the race causing her to loose.
“Bop early and Bop often.” –Alphonso Carponzo
You know acarponzo it's cute once maybe...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, August 11th at 6:56PM EST (link)twice but to consistantly push the site in every one of your posts is just spamming….cool it.
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