I don’t put a whole lot of stock in the theorizing of a guy who thinks the Republican party should shrink (kick out the conservatives) to grow. That said, Frum didn’t write this; and if the following is even partially true, the White House deserves to get burned at the political stake for this.
Sean Linnane writes on the FrumForum.com:
Earlier this week, news broke that three Navy SEALs were charged and may be court-martialed for allegedly punching a prisoner. The prisoner, a high-value target (HVT) was turned over to authorities with a bloody lip.
According to a source of mine — a retired SEAL who like myself still serves in other capacities — the feeling going around the Special Operations community at Fort Bragg is that this latest development is a kneejerk reaction to the situation a couple months ago when SEAL operators rescued Captain Phillips – Captain of the Maersk Alabama – off the coast of Somalia.
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So the word on the street is that this latest development is payback for the SEALs violating the ROE in rescuing the captain of the Maersk Alabama. The Chain of Command is asserting itself, letting everybody know what’s going to happen to you if you don’t follow orders.
Holy crap on a stick.
That has got to be the most craptacular reason for a court-martial ever created; and if it’s even slightly true, I hope it nukes Rahm Emanuel’s career.
Have you ever gotten so bleeding angry at reading something that you get tunnel vision?
First, the White House didn’t want to shoot the pirates? What in God’s name could possibly be the rationale for that — it’s not like we can do anything other than feed them if we capture them alive, and we weren’t going to let them go. So what’s the end, if not by shooting the flippin’ PIRATES?! That was the only action Obama had taken that I completely agreed with, and now I find out that he tried to screw that up too…
Second, You do NOT court-martial enlisted men for violating the Rules of Engagement and not have the resignation of the officer responsible on the Resolute Desk first. The military has a chain of command for a lot of reasons, but a HUGE reason is ease of assigning blame for screwed-up missions. That’s why you have a wet-behind-the-ears 22-year-old Second Lieutenant commanding a squad containing a 35-year-old Master Sergeant — the MSgt keeps the Lieutenant from killing his men with inexperience, and the Lieutenant keeps the civilian leadership from punishing the MSgt for doing so.
(Yes, I know there’s a lot more to that relationship, but that’s what’s applicable to this situation.)
Third, why in blazes do you punish the entire SpecOps community for one officer’s bucking of the ROE? That’s a nuclear response from an anti-nuclear White House, and one that’s reputed to be headed by Mr. Spock. That’s not how you respond, that’s how a four-year-old child responds — or Rahm Emanuel.
Fourth, if this is is actually punishment for the SEALs, is President Photo-Op really getting cheesed at the SEALs for allowing him the opportunity to boost his hawk credentials? If memory serves, his poll numbers bumped up slightly, following the awesome show of deadly force against those Somalian pirates. You’d think he’d throw them a parade, rather than punish the entire SpecOps community.
Amateur Hour just hit an all-time high.
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and there you go stixx they HATE our military....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:34PM EST (link)Beck LOVES them and realizes that this is what happens to them under liberal administrations and it is probably going to be 10 fold under a leftist administration! This is an example of why one should use their ammo for the real enemy and not hurt someone with friendly fire!
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Scope (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 4:10PM EST (link)It seemed that you were ready to chastize the Seals in a previous diary, before any of us know the details. Now you see that sometimes things aren’t always what they at first appear to be. I don’t know if the Somali pirate event had anything to do with this or not, but, I’m willing to put my trust and faith in who the Navy is willing to put $12 million into the training of just one seal. Have you read Lone Survivor by Marcus Latrell? He describes the training they go through, and, if one had a short fuse they would certainly be weeded out then. This is yet again a case for those words included in Jaded’s sig line.
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Mike (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 4:25PM EST (link)I am utterly unworthy to criticize the SEALs as an organization. But if a SEAL blew a fuse at a HVT detainee and punched him, that’d be a dumb move on his part.
Not that I’d blame the SEAL for doing so
I haven’t read Lone Survivor — at the moment, my reading time is divided between “Road to Serfdom” and “Race and Culture.” I figure I should set my philosophical base in the classics before I read other stuff — that’s why I don’t generally read Glenn Beck. Guy sells books like wildfire, but he does that by reason of his personal reputation for taking down high-ranking CO2mmunists in the White House. I’d rather read someone like Thomas Sowell, whose reputation is based on his unimpeachable brilliance.
Personal preference, y’know. Nothing against Beck or his work in taking down Van Jones, but Thomas Sowell is a more lasting work of literature.
I’ll keep that book in mind, though. I’ve been down to the beach where the SEALs train, though. They really are unbelievably awesome soldiers — second to none, for what it’s worth.
That is how business is done the Chicago way. nt
nessa (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 4:19PM EST (link)“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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