The SEALS who punched a terrorist?

That was an unprofessional action. SEALS know better than to do that — we have the best, most professional military on the face of the planet, and they know bloody better than to do that, even to a scumbag terrorist.

I completely get why they did it. But that’s something you do in the field, with your squad to watch your back. Once he’s in a cell, he’s out of your reach. So if you’re gonna beat the guy, bloody him up in the field, and THEN bring him back.

Who are they gonna believe, the terrorist or the SEAL team that brought him?

I like Glenn Beck, but he is wrong on this point. We serve no matter who is in charge. We take an oath we we enlist to protect the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Our country has had good, bad and ugly pieces in its history which makes the whole that is worthy of our service. Our core ideals makes her worthy even though some have forgotten.

Choosing to re-enlist or not is a difficult decision to make. A soldier , sailor, or marine must decide if they want to continue actively serving their country or not. The military life is not for everyone. I was a good analyst, but a sorry soldier. I am grateful for everyone who does choose the life. They are the backbone of the services.

I think he believes as I believe that the best WE in America have are dying in a God forsaken hellhole for a dithering inept Commander! I don’t believe for ONE minute that Glenn Beck is diminishing you or ANY of the military he is just terrified of losing his nephew and I suspect there a good many other military families who have the EXTRA burden now of a VERY BAD Commander in Chief!

IF one is fighting for America but the leader of America is NOT fighting for them is it worth it?

Glenn Beck absolutely “gets” the purpose of America. He also “gets” the reality of America in the Age of Obama. He isn’t saying that America isn’t worth your service; no one who’s listened to him for any length of time could ever believe he would say that. What he is saying, and what I absolutely agree with, is that we have a President who is seeing to it that the service of the U.S. military in time of war is stripped of all practical effect. Obama is deliberately attempting to destroy our military as an effective fighting force.

We’ve never had a President like this, and our military has definitely never had a Commander-in-Chief like this during wartime. T. Roosevelt was merely an ass; Carter was merely an incompetent. Wilson was all too happy to send Americans into a pointless war, but he at least was invested in winning WWI so that he could push through his League of Nations gag afterward. But we have never had a president who was actively invested in the failure of the United States militarily. We do now.

Afghanistan has officially become another Vietnam, in which our troops are dying for no purpose because our President has come right out and said he doesn’t want to win the damn thing. This die was cast on November 4, 2008, when 70 million uneducated, idiot malcontents chose to put such a man in control of our military. Would I recommend to anyone personally that he enlist or re-up at a time like this? Hell, no. How could I? How could I tell anyone to go risk their life for this country when their own CiC is dedicated to ensuring their risk is for nothing? How do you tell a soldier that his objective is to maintain a holding pattern for four years on the chance that we might then give him a new CiC who will actually let him do his job?

While I admire the dedication of those who would serve America regardless of her Leader’s strategy and philosophy, I have never heard an American recruit say “Bollocks” or “Bugger off, Glenn.”

Perhaps this post was meant for the Queen’s Dragoon Guards?

Trying to imagine my son’s Marine buddies saying”Oh, bugger it all, fellows! Let’s have tea!”

My thoughts exactly!

I wouldn’t risk my life in a “PC war”, {nor expect anyone else to}, when we have a military loathing douchebag CIC like Obama.

Johnson did the same thing in the “Nam war”.

when I read your diary earlier today, I was more than a little PO’d. You had the unintelligent nerve to say that our military knows better than to punch a terriorist, and that we are better than that. Why don’t you ask Marcus Latrell how he feels about our Marines knowing better than to punch a terriorist? If you don’t know his story, then you have no right to make the first assinine comment as you have. Young and dumb will do us in every time.

when I read your diary earlier today, I was more than a little PO’d. You had the unintelligent nerve to say that our military knows better than to punch a terriorist, and that we are better than that. Why don’t you ask Marcus Latrell how he feels about our Marines knowing better than to punch a terriorist? If you don’t know his story, then you have no right to make the first assinine comment as you have. Young and dumb will do us in every time.

You ARE “young and dumb and full of ***”!

You sound like nothing more than a PC apologist.

Basically all you stated was,
“Glen Beck thinks you should not join the military and defend America because Obama is not a good president.”
NOT
At NO TIME did he imply that the USA is not worth defending.
At NO TIME did he tell ANYONE not to enlist.
What you didn’t say was that he
said that IF this Camander in Chief and Congress is not going to support you in a war, then
“I can’t in good conscience, tell my Nephew to re-enlist.

Did you even watch your own vidio?
It looks like you didn’t.
Here is the full text of what he said from the video, word for word:
Glenn Beck;
Let me make it very very clear where I stand on this issue.
Unless the president of the United States allows his military commanders on the ground to make the descisions, or fire those military commanders and replace them with other military comanders, and then give them everything they ask for to win, then I believe it is time to call this war over, and bring our troops home.
We are putting our troops, our brothers, our sisters, our nephews, our nieces,
into a meat grinder, for no reason that I can think of any more.
Let me go a step further.
I have family in the military.
I’ve had to promise my sisters, thier mothers,that the Government would never ever put them in harms way without
A. A very good reason and with out backing them all the way.
Oh, I was tough on President George Bush, at the time as well, until we did the surge. It was touch and go for me looking at my sisters in the eye, and looking at my nephews in the eye. I have to tell ya I can no longer make that promise with this Administration, with this Congress, you should be ashamed of yourself.
As a dad,as an uncle, as an American, if this is the way our military is going to be treated, I can’t stand bye.
The Navy Seals, the Navy seals today, you know the guys, umm, the a, the great Navy Seals that a, found the most wanted terrorist, remember when they, remember they a, a captured the master mind for the murder of the Black Water, remember the guys hanging from the bridge.
Remember that.
Those Navy Seals, they have a, they captured him, they’re now facing criminal charges. Criminal charges.
Um the Seals now, apparently are accused of assult. They’re accused of giving this guy a fat lip.
Military wanted to give the Navy Seals a black mark on thier record, they said,
“Scuse me?” Assult? A terrorist hung people from a bridge, we gave him a fat lip, excuse me? They demanded that the Military put up or shut up, they demanded they be Court Marshalled in the open rather be punished in the dark.
I stand with you Navy Seals.
We also have a member of Congress, John Murtha, one of the most currupt, one of the most corrupt members of congress.
He is, he accussed the Marines of cold blooded murder in Iraq, you remember that? The marines were killed, or cleared. John Murtha, what did he do?
He didn’t even apologise, doesn’t even have, in his arrogence, he doesn’t even appologise, doesn’t have to. Mmm,mm.
Until polititions don’t play politics with how to fund the war, until we have the courage to call the Fort Hood killer a terrorist, Until we treat our Navy Seals with the respect they deserve,
until people like John Murtha are fired from congress, until our CIA members are backed up for doing what we ask them to do, I can not in good conscience, encourage my Nephew, to re-enlist.
He called me, and asked me, Uncle Glenn,
what do I do?
I can not give him my word that this country will stand behind him.
That is a descision that every family has to make, every soldier has to make for themselves.
I hope we see this president and this Congress, I hope we see them open up thier eyes, I hope they are kept up every single night with the thought that they are asking men and women to leave thier lives, thier families, because they have been asked to by the American public, any thing less than making them your top priority is unforgivable.
I will wait for a Comander in Chief to get his priorities in order, but for now, I’ll say it again, the people we ask to fight and die, must be this nations first priority, period.
Now tell me where in your post that matches up with ANYTHING that he said.

We can disagree among ourselves without impugning motives or credentials.

The author is defending a principle that has been valid since our founding.

Sadly, many of us at RedState, myself included, believe that we are in uncharted waters since January 20th, especially in terms of our President’s attitude and behavior towards our military.

And those of us with relatives or friends in the military, or think of serving or reenlisting, are distressed that our leaders do not value their lives or service, and that they would willingly send them to their deaths for political reasons.

In other words, when our national leaders – and especially the commander in chief – appears to be violating the basic contract under which a soldier – and our military as a whole – function, something that has never before happened in our nation’s history, then there are no easy answers as to how we need to respond.

And debate and disagreement are healthy and need to be respected, rather than engage in our new national pastime of shooting the messenger rather than debating the message.

I don’t know why the author dragged in the SEALS case into this post – but I think it wise to allow them the presumption of innocent until proven guilty.

And when I see the abominable way our military leaders (and political leaders like Murtha) dealt with our marines in the Haditha travesty ( the “massacre” that wasn’t), I am distrustful of how they have handled this SEALs affair and will wait to see how things come out in court.

Beck’s basic agenda was his HUGE respect for our military and his total disgust with how they are being viewed by the people in Washington and this administration.

I can relate to his sentiment because I know he meant NO harm to our servicemen. In all honesty, I sincerely believe he has such respect for you all that he feels this President would purposely do you harm and, as an American, it is extremely upsetting to all that do love you and respect your willingness to risk your life for us, without the rest of us being able to have your backs here at home. How many Vietnam vets came home to a hero’s welcome? Many came home to protesters spitting in their faces. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of Obama’s acquaintences and associates were among this group.

You are being given utmost respect due to the fact that we VALUE your service, your life and respect for your loved ones, who are waiting for your return and begging Obama NOT to leave you all hanging out to dry.

God Bless ALL Who Serve.

To the Great men in our military who fight for our country: We have always asked a lot of you. We have asked you to risk your life for the good of our country.

Now with President Obama, we ask you to be willing to not only risk your life but to risk a dying a senseless death because the President does not give you the resources you need. There are very few men that are willing potentially die for a nobel cause, But how many men are willing to potentially die a senseless death so that America can keep her guard up and so that some future President will have the best equipped, best trained, and the bravest to protect us? Amazingly the answer is quite a few.

To Glenn Beck’s Nephew: I understand if you don’t re-enlist. Potentially dying a senseless death is not what a person of honor wants to do; however, such a death while senseless would not be meaningless. Your willingness to stand at the ready to defend America even in the face of this possibility is greatly appreciated.

When the next election comes, we will do whatever we can to help ensure that you get the support you deserve. Thank you for your service.

Our president is more interested in protecting the invented constitutional rights of terrorists than protecting our troops in harms way. This president could care less about the safety of our troops and he certainly cannot be relied upon to protect this country. Stixxx, that is where your focus should be and your concern directed. Quite frankly If I were General MCCrystal, I would ask the president for a withdrawal order because I don’t want American troops serving and dying for a non-commital paciifst president who has no intention of fighting and winning a war on terror. Glenn Beck being who he is, probably was coming from that angle.

Should my life have gone in a different direction, and I finished my first enlistment, I would have to think long and hard about being in the military for another 4 or 6 years.

I tell people I’d go back in a heartbeat if I could, but with Obama as CIC, I don’t know if I’d want to put my self or my family though that.

ROE’s for the Air Force are restricive enought. I dread what those mission planners, pilots and intel analysts are having to do now to avoid collateral damage.

And – I’m not to thrilled with the whole “Reflective Belt” mentality of the Air Force at this point…

No one I know would willingly go into a fight KNOWING in advance that he would have no backing. There are moments and situations when martyrdom is called for. For those men, crouched in a foxhole into which a grenade has been tossed, one is faced with a choice: All die or, perhaps, only one. Many have chosen to lay down their lives for their fellow men in this circumstance.

But to volunteer to don the uniform and take up arms against a determined enemy who, regardless of his past actions against your homeland, is fighting on his own turf and who knows, well in advance of your arrival, that your CIC is a candy-a**ed fop who has consistently shown his disdain for you and your brothers-in-arms is another matter altogether.

Obama n’est pas l’état. But he IS the CIC and to put one’s fate, one’s life into the hands of such an individual betrays a lack of judgment rather than antipathy towards one’s country or countrymen.

Yet the need to defeat our enemy remains. What is the best way to go about achieving that? All who now serve or have ever served in the Armed Forces of the United States took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. We civilians have a duty to our men and women in uniform to displace the current CIC at the earliest possible moment and to neuter (politically, of course) him in the interim until that can be achieved. Let’s all work to that end.

from re-enlisting summer before last. I had accepted that Comrade Obama was to become President and I did NOT want my son’s life in the hands of a man like that. He was a gun-toter that had already done Afghanistan and Kosovo and the way his division worked one of their brigades was always in combat, so another three year hitch would have potentially seen him do two years in Iraq and/or Afghanistan and certainly one year in one or the other.

Since I knew that once a Democrat, any Democrat, was CIC, every guntoter in the military would have a JAG looking over his shoulder, I didn’t want my kid to be on the front page of the NYT as a sacrifice to Democrat polital correctness. I also knew that the ROE would be so restrictive that they would always have to take fire before they could act, and that makes people dead. It would have been bad enough for me, but I hardly dared think about what it would be like for my wife if that government sedan pulled in the driveway.

If your Country is capable of electing a man like Comrade Obama, maybe there is some justification in measuring your willingness to sacrifice yourself for people foolish enough to have done that.

If our commander in chief and his people are not committed to do what is needed to win the War on Terror which in my opinion is to root out and eliminate the Taliban and Al Qeada groups in Afghanistan, then we don’t need our troops there dying for no reason. This isn’t about not wanting America defended, but it is about if the CIC and other commanders can’t or won’t find their asses with two hands, a map and a GPS, then as a soldier I don’t owe loyalty to that beyond my initial obligations.

I am in for the country and for the Constitution. When the ditherer-in-chief is done “repairing our reputation around the world”, we are going to need every good Soldier, Marine, Sailor and even Airman to pick up the pieces. A President running around the world and telegraphing weakness invites attack, and we need to be ready when that happens, because it isn’t just Obama and Democrat voters that will be in danger then. I don’t want to serve under someone like President Obama, but I must. My honor and my commitment to this great nation demands it.

Disagree if you will.

Not a Beck fan (I don’t own a tv), and normally wouldn’t comment. But your points are important. Plus I have been extremely unhappy with comments recently made by Beck and headlined on the web. Junk about the destruction of the two party system has turned me off even more than I already was. All patriots must decide for themselves. Thank God for the commitment of so many.

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and I understand completely what he was trying to say here that some may have taken the wrong way.
I have thought many times myself that I would be beside myself with anger if I had any family in the active military. Thankfully, my husband has been out for years, but I do have a son who may wish to follow in his father’s footsteps someday and I have to say that I would not want him enlisting under our current CIC.
Is our country worth defending? ABSOLUTELY! No question about it.
Lately, however, I feel like our brave men and women in uniform are fighting in vain. Obama is actively working against our military. He’s not fighting foreign enemies–he’s fighting us! Americans! How can we properly defend our country against an enemy who runs our military? I hate knowing that there are loved fathers, mothers, husbands, sons, etc. in the military who are faithfully serving our country and a CIC who is doing everything in his power to destroy our country! He is actively working against our military. They are pawns in his game. I wouldn’t want one of my loved ones to join that game.

I know that there are some people who are going to disagree with me and that’s okay, but I believe that this is what Glenn Beck was trying to say. He obviously loves his country and our military, as do I, and we hate to see them used and abused.

for his support of the troops? By this, I am referring to his recent speeches at military installations, and telling the troops there that he won’t send them into battle and put their lives on the line without the full support they need. Obama needs to remember, and the press as well, that those tropps that are NOW putting their lives on the line are also Obama’s responsibility. His dithering actions on Afghanistan demonstrate the lack of commitment for the empty promises he is making to the troops here at home. There is no way you can trust the CinC. The press needs to ask BO that the troops overseas are his responsibility, and are GWBush’s. (BO needs to understand that he is every American’s President, not just the fools who voted for him back in November.)

That is essentially what Beck is saying. Read that transcript above from gekster. Beck said he needed to promise to his nephews that the government was fully supportive of the mission. And Glenn says now he cannot promise that to his sisters or nephews. Nowhere does he say that the country is not worth defending.

and rather than reply to each of you, I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you. You make tears come to my eyes. You’ll never know how much you mean to all of us.

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.

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