This is exactly correct. I’m glad that I wasn’t the only who found conservatives leaving the GOP to be a stupid idea

http://www.redstate.com/athensrunaway/2009/12/08/gop-the-tea-parties-poll-numbers-statistical-masturbation/

and Independents into our conservative way of thinking. It is obvious to me that quite a few disenfranchised party members are going to be looking to reform the GOP. We have to do it from within. I was just sitting here thinking about the fury that should erupt with the Congress doing the opposite of what the people want. No one is listening, but 2010 is just a few short weeks away. The recent elections in New Jersey and Virginia, sent a message, I don’t think everyone is going to just forget this violation of the peoples’ rights to be heard.

would latch onto.

I think it would be a wonderful idea if they actually started a Progressive Pary to compete with those “centrist” Democrats. Oh, wait a minute, they already have, they just kept the old name. Now, the “centrist” Democrats are called independents.

A new Conservative Party in competition with the Republican Party is a bad idea.

Folks, Eric Odom “gets it.” Please read his article linked to by Black River Wolf.

I was at my GOP Legislative District meeting tonight. We have more than DOUBLED the number of precinct committeemen since January and are now at half strength. Almost all of the new precinct committeemen are conservatives. I got to introduce my neighbor to the crowd: he’s a brand new conservative precinct committeemen. My constant harangues worked!

The press secretary to the Arizona governor was there fielding questions. He said our two senators were trying to kill the Debtocrats’ health care bill. I corrected him, explaining that Jon Kyl had said his strategy was not to stop the bill from coming to a vote but to “improve it” with amendments. That’s the kind of stuff you get to do at these meetings. (Our governor, Jan Brewer, is in DC lobbying our congressional delegation to kill the bill.)

Dr. Eric Novak, Chairman, Arizonans for Healthcare Freedom, spoke about our state voter initiative to prevent socialized medicine within our state borders. We believe it will pass this time (almost passed two years ago.) I asked him if he knew any conservative doctors who were precinct committeemen. He sheepishly admitted he didn’t know any. I told him I’d help him recruit them.

Three of the four conservative Republicans running for Debtocrat Harry Mitchell’s house seat were there vying for the support of the precinct committeemen in attendance. Face to face. Two of our precinct committeemen are running for state representative and senator seats. They were there seeking support. Face to face.

We conservative precinct committeemen in Arizona are trying to increase our numbers so we get a solid working majority of conservatives in our county organizations so we can retain our conservative leaders and replace the RINOs in some of the leadership positions. I think we will succeed.

Go here to learn more about the need to become a precinct committeeman:

www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

With half of the precinct committeeman slots across the nation in the Republican Party unfilled, the Party is there for the taking by conservatives.

We just have to do it.

I hope if you aren’t already a voting member of our Party you’ll take steps immediately to become one.

Thank you.
ColdWarrior

This can be done. It has been done in Clark County Nevada. This heavily populated part of Nevada was running contrary to the Grassroots Values of the rural parts of the State that were good Constitutional Conservatives hanging onto the hope that the GOP would come to their senses and stop trying to bend to the will of the Socialist Democrats. There is no playing nice nice with the Marxists. The Grassroots Conservatives in Southern Nevada came together took matters into their own hands. We joined the GOP in numbers sufficient to turn the tide in the County and then the whole State.

My question is, “What are you doing and has it worked yet?”

BRW, I admire your commitment to conservatism, but your attachment to the GOP is questionable. The plain fact of the matter is that the GOP leadership is far too entrenched to ever allow a real revolt by the grassroots to take over. Look at a similar movement in the Democratic Party – Kos and his KosKids attempted a take-over and failed miserably. Yeah, they claim that they got Obama elected… and what a load of bull that is. The Dems are still (a) escalating the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan [a key issue that the Kos Kids were against] (b) keeping worldwide prisons for suspected terrorists open [Bagram and Gitmo are still operating and the Kos Kids were firmly against both], (c) hedging their bets on same-sex marriage and gays in the military [and, again, the Kos Kids were all about these two issues]. So, the idea of Dems splintering into a Progressive and a Moderate Party is a real option.

The problem is that we, the electorate, have no real “stick” to offer the GOP or, for that matter, the Democrat leadership to change other than a third party. We can withdraw the “carrot” of funding, but that hasn’t really accomplished much. The real question is “how do we hold the party accountable for their actions?”

Additionally, the GOP faces a real identity problem in that many so-called conservatives have been deliberately ostracized from the mainstream GOP and are, in fact, now rather bizarrely referred to as anti-American leftists. For example, Justin Raimondo, Thomas Fleming, Lew Rockwell, Pat Buchanan, and Ron Paul are all considered untouchables by the GOP establishment and by many so-called conservatives (David Frum and David Brooks come to mind). Why is this? Until someone can satisfactorily answer this question, then the GOP is going to continue turning off potential allies and suffering from a serious identity crisis. Conservatives need to learn a little bit about thier own history otherwise they are going to continue to get trounced by the Dems.

So what is the solution.???

Start a new party that will have the Leftists for years to come??? Not vote??? Same thing will happen. We will have the far left forcing the country farther and farther to left left, as they did in the 20th century.

You are not going to be able to change the country over night and people like Buchanan and Ron Paul are Libertarian and not what I consider Conservatives. That is a different ball of wax and not even what I was talking about

The only way to get the country back on track will be through the framework that is there. And 3rd party is a non starter in this day ad age.

Does this mean I believe and will follow the weenies in DC that are clueless in the GOP. Hell No. We need to start locally and state wide to get people elected and go through the ranks.

And if you think that the Conservative Movement is anything like the Kos Kiddies and DUmmies, well you have not seen the people I have seen. People Like Eric Odom I linked to and also Skye and her organization in Philidelphia. There are many more out there. And are making a difference. Both the DUmmies and Kos Kids are all a echo chamber of left over Socialists from the 60s and are pretty much run by George Soros and have lost their political clout, even with Obummer in office. They are even farther to the left than the Socialists in the Democrat Party

Or we can just be in the wilderness for decades waiting for the Conservative Party to form and get a foothold, all the while we will be so far gone that we will never be able to get back from.

We do not need a 3rd party. We need to compel the GOP to take us very seriously, They had a change beginning in 1994 and for lack of better terminology “blew it”. If they fail to do so now, then we can talk about our options as conservatives. This is a “last chance” not only for them but possibly for us all.