A Rebuttal To “Hanoi Jane Republicans”


Or, putting kids in cages makes them act like animals. Let's tear down the walls. Oh, and the democrats, too.

I have to respectfully disagree with Erick here:

*We have Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, and Chris Matthews now all in for Obama and admitting it. Therefore, we can conclude that any Republican who appears on MSNBC will be there solely to serve as a foil for the Obama fan club.

We should resolve to designate elected Republicans wiling to play the fool “Hanoi Jane Republicans.” There is no longer any value in going on MSNBC now that their chief faces are declaring openly that making Obama succeed is part of their job.*

With all due respect, sir, this is exactly the wrong mentality to have if we’re to get back in the game again…


It’s pretty easy for us to get angry at all the structural advantages the democrats have each and every election cycle: Hollywood, making conservatives look like angry idiots; the news media, with relentless negative coverage of every GOP politician and excusal of horrendously bad behavior by democrats; corrupt voting systems run by democrat partisans who magically “find” enough ballots to win (Disclosure: I live in Seattle, WA and know PLENTY about how the [d] machine works with regard to elections. Just look up Rossi, Dino, 2004).

However, digging a bunker in the back yard and storing 4 years’ worth of water and canned beans is the wrong way to go. Instead of pulling ourselves into a shell, we need to take a page from the Obama campaign: Contest every vote.

A quick story, as an aside, to make my point: My wife and I are Purdue Boilermakers (it was grad school for me). We went back for Homecoming this year (right before the election) to see some old friends, watch the football game, and rub elbows with other alumni. We had a hotel room in downtown Lafayette, IN.

Lafayette/West Lafayette is in north central Indiana in very very red Tippecanoe County. I loved it there. Not a democrat in sight. Wonderfully conservative policies abound. No crime to speak of. Great economic growth. The works.

So it was to my shock that I saw an Obama campaign office in a rented storefront in downtown Lafayette. democrats don’t win in Indiana. democrats are regarded as space aliens there. Why the hell would Obama waste his time?

Answer: Because it’s not a waste of time. Obama had the cojones to take his message right into one of the worst neighborhoods (for him, anyway). As a result of this ground game, I saw Obama signs in yards. In rural Indiana.

The lesson? Newt Gingrich writes is best in his book Real Change that cheerful persistence and a willingness to take your message cheerfully and openly to people whom you Think would never give you the time of day are winning strategies.

Will you always catch lightning in a bottle and flip a red state to blue, as Obama did? Likely not. But what you can do is slowly get the message there, slowly, letting it diffuse to a broader audience…and the more people that know what we’re about, the more people there are likely to question Obama’s actions in the White House and/or vote to oppose his policies (when he inevitably makes a mistake).

We’ll never be able to flip Olbermann and Matthews. Take that as a given. But if the right conservative goes on that network, someone unflappable in the face of hostile questions, someone fast enough on his/her feet to frame the arguments properly, and most importantly, someone who can remain cheerfully optimistic even in the face of two of the most partisan broadcasters in the history of television, then several things are possible:

  1. You can let them make idiots out of themselves. This one shouldn’t be too hard.
  2. You can turn their arguments against them. Pointing out their inconsistencies in a cheerful way leaves them no room for attack soundbites later.
  3. You can use the “Yes, if” style of debate. Someone who’s listening to you will respond more positively to what you’re saying if you try and make their position work (“Yes, you can hike taxes to raise revenue, but for the revenue growth to materialize…”) as opposed to “No, because”.

Is this an easy thing to do? Not at all. It takes somebody with a good sense of humor who’s fast on his or her feet.

But is it worth it? Absolutely. We need to be thinking long term here, as in 2010 timeframes. We need to get the voters educated on the issues in a hurry such that if/when Obama, Pelosi and Reid launch their “change” assault on the country and the economy, we’ll have enough voters to support our positions and raise skepticism over their agenda.

Remember the great Ronaldus Maximus and one of the most clever things he ever did to defuse an opponent:

“Well, there you go again.”

We don’t want to be in a position where all the democrats have to say is, “There they go again. Those angry Republicans, standing in the way of change.”

So when MSNBC calls, grit your teeth and get on there. Expect to get beaten up the first few times out, but every time you do, you reach someone in their audience. Pretty soon, those people are actually getting both sides of the story. And that only helps us out in the end.

Sorry if the above meanders a bit. I’m seriously multitasking during the workday :) .


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I think you completely missed the intent of Erick's original post.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 1:36PM EST (link)

It wasn’t about hiding in a bunker. It was about avoiding mainstream media outlets that have announced that they are propoganda centers for Obama.

There are plenty of other ways we can get our message out, without having to subject ourselves to people like those at MSNBC.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

Spot On

nc Monday, November 10th at 1:39PM EST (link)

This is exactly the right advice.

On my way into work this morning, I was thinking a very similar thought along even more extreme lines (particular given the racial status of the current President-elect).

I think we as Republicans need to do more to fight for the African American vote, which we have ceeded for too long. I am not optimistic that we will make significant inroads among African Americans in the next 4 to 8 years, but in spite of Obama’s status as the first African American President (and maybe in fact because of it), I think there is an opportunity there. Look at Proposition 8 in California.

There is a real long-term potential for the Republican party to pick up votes there (heck we have nothing but potential in that regard, given the 90% plus margins of AAs voting Democratic in some cases). It does not mean we adopt identity politics, but it does mean we find issues on which we can persuase AAs that the Republican party shares their values (family, faith, work, personal security, etc.)

We have to find votes, not heretics and enemies.

NC

 

Gotta agree SteveM

MelZ (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 2:57PM EST (link)

Don’t let any leg-tingling, mainstream, blow-hard make us hide.

Strong Conservatives should get our message out. We don’t want MSNBC to say…”we asked them to come one the show but they have refused”. That is not hurting their already meager ratings…it is only hurting us.

Well done SteveM

MelZ

I must disagree...

tsquare (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 4:33PM EST (link)

They will only use Republicans to make their ‘quota’ for the new ‘fairness doctrine’ and to make fun of us (them)

Starve the beast… give it nothing to feed on.

We don’t want MSNBC to say…”we asked them to come one the show but they have refused”

They will anyway…

 
 

Well argued.

itrytobenice (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:46PM EST (link)

I really like your method of arguing. It reminds me of a comment Martin Knight made where we go on their shows, but refuse the basic premises of their questions and present a basic conservative philosophy when what they are wanting is an answer to the question: Don’t you think schools need and deserve basic funding from the government?

On the other hand, I hate to lend credibility to the Obama’s gunslingers.

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I agree with tsquare.

nogyro35 (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:44AM EST (link)

My father-in-law tried to pull the “MSM is not biased card” with me when I went to visit him in Massachusetts a few months ago. In his smugness, my Dad purposefully played a news program because he obviously thought I had never heard Obama before and needed to hear him.

In the same program they aired the best Obama sound bites they could find with the worst Palin sound bites they could find.

They basicly did a Rush montage of the Couric interview where all they showed was 3 minutes of Palin struggling to answer a loaded question. They never once aired her stating a conservative viewpoint.

This was supposedly unbiased reporting because a couple no-name Republicans were on the show meekly trying to defend her and were shouted down by a chorus of liberals calling for her head.

Well I did make that last little part up, but you get the idea. My Dad in all his infinite wisdom, (ahem) was convinced by this charade.

I could not remember who these enablers were, but one was a politican and another was from the media.