I’m not a fan of JD, no seriously I ‘m no kidding I’m not a fan of his, but I am amazed at times at how little JD knows and how little he thinks before opening his gob smacker and letting loose with nonsense.
Phoenix New Times ( a lefty news outlet if it’s anything like the one in LA), has coverage of the latest JD trip through the rabbit hole. I’ll avoid revisiting JD’s take on the history of WWII, too much like shooting fish in a barrel.
“At a campaign stop this week, Hayworth was discussing McCain’s reluctance to co-sponsor a repeal of the law sponsored by South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint and said, ”Look at what the senator does, not what he says in sound bites for the media. Why hasn’t he signed on as a co-sponsor to Senator Jim DeMint’s bill to repeal ObamaCare? John McCain went to Washington to change it but Washington changed him,” Hayworth said at the event.
Turns out McCain is signed on to DeMin’ts bill and has been since April 20.”
While many here on RS have issues with Johnny Mac, can anyone seriously think that having someone as loose with facts as JD in the Senate would be a good thing? Is this sort of factually challenged, nonsense spouting, individual that the people of AZ want to represent them in the Senate? YIKES!
Or as a McCain spokesperson put it:
McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers, after hearing Hayworth’s response, sent us an e-mail describing a place that usually only exists in DC comics: “Welcome to JD Hayworth’s bizarro world, where up is down, left is right, and truth doesn’t exist.
Moe Lane
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Daniel Horowitz
Dan Spencer
Wait, does JD have a "D" or an "R" next to his name?
civil truth (Diary) Friday, June 11th at 10:19PM EST (link)vs. McCain, where the question is whether he has extra letters after his “R” – e.g. “INO”.
Or perhaps “EWIM”: “Republican Except When It Matters”
That kind of historical revision by JD is reserved by the left. Poaching can get one shot.
However, couldn’t you find a better source than a lefty rag?
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No actually
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, June 11th at 10:28PM EST (link)civil_truth
No I could not, and I just went an looked, but I think this is the MSM slanted coverage to some extent. The “story” that the MSM wants to sell is the big race between McCain and JD and the intramural fight going on in the R. side. Covering JD’s mistakes does not help with selling news and the “story” as the MSM wants to sell.
Funny though, the Lefty Rags being like the junk yard dogs they are tend to cover JD better because I think they don’t like him much ether.
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I wonder why...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, June 11th at 11:00PM EST (link)“Funny though, the Lefty Rags being like the junk yard dogs they are tend to cover JD better because I think they don’t like him much ether.”
BTW, nice use of the selective quoting tactic.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, June 11th at 11:03PM EST (link)Ever hear of fair use?
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, June 11th at 11:12PM EST (link)I was pushing it as it was quoting too much of the article under “Fair Use”. Feel free to find other sources and put your “spin” on JD’s latest buffoonery.
By the way, did JD ever figure out how WWII worked?
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Fair use...or creative editing?
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:03AM EST (link)JD has a lot of problems Steve…and you’d have more credibility in your attacks on him if you were honest in the things you write…
But this proves you to be a hack and a clown of the worse order…you make it look like JD didn’t know McCain wasn’t a sponsor of the bill when the criticism from the Hayworth Camp wasn’t that McCain wasn’t a signatory….the Critisism was in fact that McCain was a Johnnie com lately to the bill.
No, your source works just fine.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:10AM EST (link)Once you get by the selective quotes. If you want to portray Hayworth pointing out McClown’s Mugwump tendencies as ‘buffoonery’, that’s your prerogative. His overall point is entirely valid though.
Point....JD has a point
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:15AM EST (link)Gosh, his campaign staff said JD was just ignorant, now you tell me he’s just making a point with his stupidity…go figure.
But seriously, did JD ever get that WWII deal figured out?
I really hope JD can get back to something he’s good at after this campaign, a talking head on some small AM station. I hear he’s real good at the crop and livestock price report reading bit.
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Someone sounds a little desperate here...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:30AM EST (link)…unless your ridiculous spin runs into a wall?
BTW, the word ignorant is not necessarily a pejorative. Having a lack of knowledge of which side of the fence McClown is sitting on day-to-day would be a full time job.
So is explaining JD's latest effort in stupidity.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:36AM EST (link)It’s what cost him his House seat.
Not being able to keep track of whether McClown is flipping or flopping...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:45AM EST (link)…isn’t exactly an “effort in stupidity”.
Supporting McClown on the other hand would definitely be an effort in myopia and masochism.
A little help for you
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:53PM EST (link)Diogenes314
You’re having a hard time with grasping the scholarship of JD, so here’s some help. Seems like Professor JD’s history lesson on WWII fell a bit short, but hey MENSA member JD ain’t.
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SteveLA, I was at a Tea Party last night with Jim Deakin
ColdWarrior (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 1:10PM EST (link)I was recruiting their members to become Republican Party precinct committeemen and also, because it’s now essentially too late to become an elected PC in this election cycle, I urged them all to DO SOMETHING to help Get Out The Vote in the August 24 primary and the Nov. 2 general election.
I’ve had a heart-to-heart with Jim about his prospects against McCain and J.D. Hayworth. Jim believes he can win the primary (that’s what he says — whether he really believes it, I don’t know). Jim has good news. McCain has agreed to two debates with Jim and Hayworth.
You seem to really not like Hayworth. Where’s that come from? Have you ever met him? I have. And McCain. And Deakin.
I guess the real question becomes, if you had to actually vote for McCain or Hayworth, why would you choose, as a conservative (assuming you are one) McCain over Hayworth? What’s the main reason you prefer McCain over Hayworth?
Oh, and by the way, are you a “card carrying member” of the Republican Party over there in CA?
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Sounds like the lefty idiots perspective to me...
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not if he's going to be replaced by JD.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:21AM EST (link)Which, by the way, he won’t be.
So, It's Official - You Prefer McCain To Hayworth (nt)
IJB Saturday, June 12th at 12:25AM EST (link)That's pronounced DUH...:) (nt)
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I dislike them both for different reasons.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:35AM EST (link)But Hayworth is a complete fool, and that’s what elected his replacement in CD05, it’s why his radio show was not very highly rated and never got anywhere near syndication even though he’s a nationally known name, and why McCain will absolutely clean his clock in August.
Frankly, I don’t know who I’m gonna vote for in the primary but I’m going to vote for the Republican in November.
Oh, and FWIW, right now – and IMO for the duration of BO’s term(s) – McCain is doing and will do a much better job blunting BO’s agenda than Hayworth could ever even think of doing. If he made the kind of statements about BO that he’s made just in the last couple of weeks – this one and the one about no declaration of war against Germany – he would get dissected endlessly by the press which would allow BO to walk under the radar with even less effort than he is now. Frankly, JD is so stupid it’s just scary and he can’t avoid the opportunity to get in front of a camera at every opportunity to prove it.
Setting the record straight
dswaz (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 12:49AM EST (link)As the Field Director for the campaign and a staunch conservative, not one of you can speak correctly on this post. I can. The fact is that John McCain did NOT sign on to the repeal until after the campaign challenged him to. It is a true statement that McCain was one of the last co-sponsors to DeMint’s bill which occurred on April 20th. (He was the 19th co-sponsor).
Anyone watching the race here in Arizona knows that we are up against millions of McCain dollars. Running on a tight shoestring budget, staff is doing the best it can to stay up to date. All I will tell you is that we did not babysit the webpage that lists the sponsors of DeMint’s bills. McCain never touted his co-sponsorship of the bill so it was easy to miss the date that he signed on. We do believe however, that McCain did sign on only after JD made it an issue and Tea Party folks plagued McCain with questions.
It’s easy to be critical of a campaign on negligible details so we would appreciate a little grace when it comes to fighting off a multi-million dollar machine as big as McCain’s. And if you feel so inclined, we would appreciate a little help!
Thank You,
Shane Wikfors
JD Hayworth 2010
An Addendum
dswaz (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 1:00AM EST (link)One final addendum. The Phoenix New Times has been very helpful to Team McCain over the duration of the campaign. Surprisingly, I’ve never seen this liberal paper be so admiring of a Republican before. It’s almost as if James King at PNT has a direct line to Brian Rogers of the McCain camp. Of course, we all know that Brian Rogers did work for Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection: (TPM)
Earlier today, Ben Smith reported that McCain research director-cum-press secretary Brian Rogers will begin working as the research director for Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection. On the campaign trail, Rogers worked alongside deputy communications director Michael Goldfarb, who responded to today’s announcement with poise and professional courtesy. "Everybody knew Rogers was a tree-hugger," Goldfarb noted by email, "but I didn’t think he’d take it this far. He’s dead to me."
The problem is
conservativecrusade (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 1:08AM EST (link)your candidate of choice is a fool, and I try not to call a person a fool unless they fit the definition 100%! JD is a joke who can not win the general even if he got lucky enough to beat McCain. It is a shame that we get stuck with McCain again just because an idiot is the only one running against him. How in the world a guy like JD get even one supporter is beyond me! Is there no one in that area that can run against McCain that is a true conservative and not a nut job like JD?
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Thanks for commenting, Shane
aesthete (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 5:52PM EST (link)I agree with your characterization of this incident. Thank you for disclosing your affiliation with the JD Hayworth campaign: many staffers don’t do so, and it was good of you to reveal that affiliation. My problem with JD is not simply that he makes buffoonish statements both on and off the campaign trail (he has a history of making bombastic and silly statements both as a Congressman and a shock jock), but that his claim to conservatism is so patently untrue. A candidate who voted for the largest entitlement expansion since the Great Society (Medicare Pt D), No Child Left Behind, the business unfriendly package of regulation entitled the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, and the 527 Reform Act, an expansion to McCain-Feingold that closed some “loopholes”.
He also has significant ties to both corruption (his ties to Jack Abramoff are suspect) and pork (Highway Appropriations bill; wouldn’t forswear it, etc). I don’t care about the latter, but the former should be cause for concern for any voter. Thanks for replying to the diary, but I don’t think that JD is any more conservative than McCain.
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I really should check myself
aesthete (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 5:57PM EST (link)for grammatical errors.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Thank you Shane for clearly identifying yourself
civil truth (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 1:11AM EST (link)…and your position in the Hayworth campaign. Too many campaign operatives come to RedState covertly and hide their affiliations, so I do appreciate your honesty in being above board here.
I’ll leave it to the RedState Arizona voters as to how they respond to your statement here – they’re the ones who matter to you.
But to me, you come across as providing a succinct explanation of events, explaining what is factual and being cautious with interpretation (and in particular not conflating correlation and causality) and thereby giving the listener some space to fill in the gaps on their own – while of course laying out the case for viewing your candidate’s actions here in a favorable light.
For your sake I hope you won’t find yourself have to do this kind of explaining too frequently during the campaign.
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Yes thank you
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 9:57AM EST (link)Shane,
I think JD Hayworth represents everything that is wrong with the Republican party today and from when he served in Congress, but I do appreciate the honesty you exhibit by openly identifying yourself as a member of his campaign. You’re wrong, and JD is a buffoon as this item illustrates and will be again…soon, he can’t help himself.
Thank you for your comment.
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One of these candidates does...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 10:11AM EST (link)“…represents everything that is wrong with the Republican party today and from when he served in Congress…”
We'd be willing to settle for "both". nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 5:54PM EST (link)At least Hayworth is a Republican.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, June 12th at 10:59PM EST (link)Even if everything said about JD were true, the fact that were even debating filibustering SC Nominees on this site is reason enough to vote against McClown.
Not on issues of spending and the expansion of government.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 11:50AM EST (link)Unlike McCain, who has frequently voted against spending, JD’s never ever met a spending bill he didn’t like. In addition, JD spent 12 years in Congress and had nothing to show for it but building a name for himself as a guy who was always willing to show up at a moments notice and say something totally outlandish. He has no legislative record.
This is all just pissing in the wind. JD couldn’t beat McCain if John died in bed with 10 year old boy.
How many times did he vote against the House GOP leadership when it counted?
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 3:59PM EST (link)Let alone organize against them?
It doesn't matter.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:03PM EST (link)My dead white cat could beat JD Hayworth in Arizona.
Just get over it.
If you wanted to beat McCain (which I’d love to see), Jeff Flake or John Shadegg could have probably gotten job done.
JD is a loser. He got tossed from CD05 because people personally hate him. He’s a political nothing, his record is zip other than supporting every opportunity to spend money. Did he line up and support the Republican leadership? You bet. You’ll recall that Republican leadership was Obama lite on spending.
He got tossed from CD05 because people personally hate him.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:11PM EST (link)The reason he lost that race was a combination of redistricting, excessive focus on immigration in a year when nobody gave a shit and being caught in the middle of a Dem tsunami. Was every other GOP incumbent who got bounced in 2006 a ‘personally hated loser’.
Well, obviously he is personally hated by some.
Major endorsements against JD?
SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:19PM EST (link)Diogenes314
You’ll try to explain the negative endorsement away somehow, but how do spin the Arizona Republic’s non-endorsement of JD?
The better question, do you agree with the nonsense JD spouts on illegal immigration, do you actually think that his level of vitriol on the topic will get something done about the problem? Or do you think that he and his fellow “loud people” are as big a problem standing in the way of actually getting real immigration reform as the open border MECHA types….that’s probably the number one reason I dislike JD.
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Dio, you just don't know your whatever from a hole in the ground.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 6:50PM EST (link)In 2006, in CD05, the only real issue was JD. On the whole, the district is a Republican leaner, the was wasn’t a really big deal in CD05 and “corruption” stuff was a flash in the pan. Harry won because he was considered to be a “nice guy” and JD was (and is) considered to be a foolish a-hole.
CD05 was a “local” election.
CD05 was a “local” election.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 7:45PM EST (link)They all are. Nevertheless the GOP lost 30 seats that year and picked up zero. Nationwide, the GOP vote declined by 36% as opposed to 20% for the Dems from 2004. Hayworth lost 33% of his total from 2004 (139,455 to 93,815) while the Dem lost 27% (139,455 to 101,838). In a normal year, JD would have won.
Correction 17%
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 7:49PM EST (link)The Dem dropoff was 122,363 to 101,838. Which put both the ‘local’ race and the national ones overall pretty much even.
More on CD-05
mstedman Sunday, June 13th at 9:15PM EST (link)In addition, Mitchell won reelection fairly easily in 2008 running against a fairly conservative, but almost an anti-JD in temperment. While Republicans have a registration edge, this district includes liberal suburb Tempe which houses Arizona State University and is far more moderate than the districts that send Flake, Franks, and Shadegg to Congress. If the race was only about JD and this was the hard-core Republican district that some on here think it is, the Republican would have been victorious during the last election cycle.
Name that tune
SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:05PM EST (link)Diogenes314
Name that vote, or name that tune when Johnny Mac voted against or stood against the Republican party. Let’s see what you’re really upset about that Johnny Mac actually did instead of making things up.
I can almost guess.
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Go ahead and guess.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:14PM EST (link)The list is too long to pick just one. I already mentioned his assiting the Pelosistas in corrupting the judicial nomination process, his campaign finance ‘reform’ is obvious as well.
I'm not on the same page as McCain on some issues ether
SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:22PM EST (link)I disagree with him on campaign finance reform, but not for the SIVV reasons.
I disagree with him on what “torture” is, but I understand where he is coming from as an ex POW, but he’s still wrong.
I disagree with him on global warming and tax cuts.
But I agree with McCain on far more than what the buffoon that is JD Hayworth is selling.
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As to you're other point, all the more reason to vote for him.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:06PM EST (link)Unless you are a die-hard McClown fan that is. If there’s no way for JDH to win, then voting for him at least sends a message to McClown and other RINOs that backstabbing has consequences in the primaries. It might possibly give some of them (not Mr. “Maverick”, of course) something to consider the next time they stick their thumb in the air.
Hayworth can't win the general election, which counts here
renny (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 4:32PM EST (link)For all the whining about McCain, he led against Obamanationcare, has consistently opposed the Chicago-thug administration, gets good press–and I don’t care whose, has never had an earmark, has been a staunch fiscal conservative, and the Republicans will still need institutional memory and seasoned leadership when all the newbies show up in 2011.
Save the money for better resources. Let JD go.
Why couldn't he?
mstedman Sunday, June 13th at 5:04PM EST (link)Rasmussen has him up 16 against the likely Dem nominee, who is virtually unknown outside TUCSON and who is closely linked to Raul “Boycott Arizona” Grijalva . The RCP average is Hayworth +5.2 which I would imagine would go up as the candidate’s views become better known. I somehow think supporting a boycott of the state you are running to represent wouldn’t play too well outside the far left. Unlike 2006, immigration will be the #1 issue in Arizona this time around, and nobody in the state has positioned himself on that issue better than JD Hayworth. Hayworth has made some votes I disagree with over his 12 years in Congress, but he’s been a strong voice against TARP and against the breathtakingly expensive amnesty plan that McClown has pimped until his recent election-year conversion.
Even if your unlikely premise is correct, and a Democrat will be the next US Senator from Arizona in the event that Hayworth is the GOP nominee I would argue that conservatism would gain more in the long run by losing 1/100th of an inconsistent vote and get rid of someone who wants a “big (circus) tent” of a Republican Party by promoting candidates such as Lindsey McGraham, Charlie McCrist, Jane McNorton, and Sue McLowden.
renny you're ignorant.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 6:45PM EST (link)Hayworth would easily win the general. The Democrats are in even worse shape than Republicans here in AZ. There’s a good chance November will be a virtual sweep for Rs no matter who runs.
As of right now there are probably only two safe seats for Ds in the state. Raul Whatshisname and Ed Pastor.
Renny, please don't rewrite history about the "fight" against Obamacare
ColdWarrior (Diary) Sunday, June 13th at 5:23PM EST (link)There was no fight against it, and whatever the “strategy” was to defeat Obamacare (there wasn’t one — both McConnell and Kyl said they were not trying to defeat it, just amend it), McCain certainly did not “lead” it.
For the full story of the complete and utter capitulation by the Republican senate leadership and rank and file on Obamacare, just go here and follow the links. There was no fight, there was no leadership. Period. And any senator who tells you otherwise is LYING. And I’ve challenged Kyl and McCain on this in front of crowds about their lack of strategy and they’ve both said, untruthfully, in front of those crowds, they did “everything possible” to kill Obamacare. Despite having always capitulated on cloture votes, never refused unanimous consent, never demanded triple readings of all bills and amendments, etc.
J.D. Hayworth is urging conservatives to become precinct committeemen — is McCain? He isn’t. Ask yourself why?
Another example of wasted breath by McCain and the Republican “powers that be” who only want to remain in office and FEAR conservative primary challengers — so they never tell us to actually become “card carrying members” of the Party.
In which county in Arizona are you a precinct committeemen? Maybe we can work together on Get Out The Vote efforts.
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the blowhard strikes again
beau Monday, June 14th at 7:49PM EST (link)JD has not ran a successful race, no doubt about it. He has lacked in proving to Arizona that he has changed his horrible and unethical ways. He has proven to us that he has certainly not become any brighter. He has proven to us that no matter what it costs, he is willing to lie, cheat and falsify stories and votes just to make himself look good. JD is a horrible, terrible choice, hands down.