To Rick Moron err…[Moran] and any other “true conservative” that has words for Redstate…


It started HERE with a well thought, well worded, well presented argument that we shouldn’t label Deomcrats and Leftists as “Socialists” and “Communists”.   The general premise is that those in Washington aren’t extremists and shouldn’t be labeled with ‘isms’ as they have the same principles that we share in the root of a common Ethical ideology known as Individualism.  That’s some deep thinking for those with insight into the POST-Kantian world of ethics and the views that started with Bentham.

However the malarky is thick and stank in the intellectual’s bantering field.  Most self identified pompous intellectuals tend to enjoy the dialogue, debate, and banter.  All except when their pride gets hurt…

In comes Moe Lane… with some very simple question yes or no questions for Mr. Moran… he could answer neither in under 20 words. HERE

Nothing unusual… I suppose… so why is this a diary?

Mr. Moran ran home and trashed Redstate rather than defending his rather wordy but weak thoughts in the forum he opened.  {Even his trash talk was bloated bloviation invoking the words of Burke and Kirk which really had nothing to do with his… “he was rude to me” diatribe}
From my perspective Moe essentially popped the IQ bubble with a challenge to get active… but was resisted… as is common with people who think too much but never do… I supposed this syndrome could be summed up in those who do, do… and those who can’t… blog.  Then they try to establish their credentials by word count and readership… Lord knows when revolutions take place you have your James Madison’s and your have your George Washingtons… but let’s be real…  You come to this site, and you tell us we’re damaging our cause by calling a spade a spade? {I’m sure all these analogies and colloquials are driving the brainy types mad…}

“Many of my diary posts had been heavily criticized in the past so I was not unused to the notion that I was not a popular poster there. And the diary in question was heavily critical of some conservatives – “angry ideologues” – so I expected the usual mindless name calling from, who else, angry ideologues.”

I’m not an angry ideologue… but I am one who thinks pontificating posture brings nothing to the table.

Furthermore… YOU’RE WRONG. DEAD WRONG.

The democrats and leftists are introducing statist legislation, it can be called nothing else when the legislation is pushed through with absolutely no debate, and when the language of the bill removes inherent rights from Americans that are engaged in “The Pursuit of Happiness”, and expands the influence of government in the Legislative and Executive bodies ignoring entirely the concept of separation of powers, which primarily enacts the opportunity to funnel money to supportive constituents and provides powers to unelected officials appointed to appropriate where the tax-generated capital will go… as in the Stimulus.

Nothing spells statist like pushing through a bill again, without enough time to analyze and debate it, based on the sensationalism of environmentalists who lack the data to back up a real need for creating an energy bill that will do nothing but arbitrarily change which industry generates the most significant portions of energy for the average corporate consumer, which again requires the appointment of unelected officials that may arbitrarily determine the brokerage of carbon credits through a STATE-RUN partisan appointment, thereby driving up costs for the average American energy consumer as in what was passed by the House with the Cap-n-Trade bill.

Nothing and I mean absolutely no other legislation on the table leads to SOCIALISM quicker, than a Single Payer Healthcare system. Given our modern technologies and our ability to aggregate, search, compare, cross-reference, calculate, and determine data, a government option for insurance will inevitably lead to a government run single-payer system. NOTHING about a single payer healthcare system spells INDIVIDUAL. Obamacare is nothing short of a power grab that increases costs and spreads the wealth… and the faulty notion that the buyoff is universal care for everyone is DAMNED FOOLISH, I would know… I was born in Canada, and Naturalized as a US Citizen. I have personal experience in the world of socialized medicine… you want to debate the merits of improving the system start by cutting the COST of health industry for ALL players including the insurance companies… and that begins with TORT reform… unfortunately… STATISTS are doing the smoke and mirrors business saying that all can be accomplished with compromise and cash… Increasing spending doesn’t incentivize the reduction of costs EVER.

So for all the “CONSERVATIVE” talking… that these self-important thinkers blog on about… Let me put it in terms you can understand…

Your Ultilitarianism is getting in the way of your Categorical Imperative, and if you’re not careful enough, hades is waiting with all the karmic vicissitudes of a hypocrite in speech, ‘ever learning and never coming to a knowledge of the truth’.

As for me and my house? Americans that show up to a local events and volunteer to do their civil duty, and truly carry the water in the bucket by becoming a committee member or a precinct chair have every right to label today’s modern leftist democrat a socialistic communist without judgement from the intellectual peanut gallery.

G’day Sir.


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I'm glad you wrote this StandardCandle. After I get over

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 7:34PM EST (link)

my shock at what Mr. Moran wrote at Rightwing Nuthouse. I followed his diary and the threads here yesterday. He came spoiling for a fight. I am a much newer reader to RedState, so had no history with his diaries or blog. IMO, his diary came off as condescending, elitist and with built-in self aggrandizement.

His bashing of Conservatives, and yes, I could see through all his lofty rhetoric, makes me think he is in the mode of appeasing the leftists. Pretending or acting like something is not so does not mean it is not happening. The present administration in Washington has been more than 50yrs. in the making. The leftist Dems have finally achieved significant power. Minimizing or discounting that they are not really after Statism or desiring of Collectivism and concentrated control is disingenuous on his part.

The country would not be in an uproar if Washington had anything in common with the traditional character of the American people.
IMO, it is Mr. Moran who has a warped view of the conservative writers and participants on this site.

Thank you, StandardCandle for writing this.

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well he did raise my dander...

Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle) (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 10:00PM EST (link)

I hope he realizes that he’s not my enemy… but he’s not my friend either… and if you’re gonna come knocking with allegations… you better have my trust first.

“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison

To Me, It Boils Down To Deception.

farstar99 (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 4:42PM EST (link)

A moderate Republican is neither.

A moderate Democrat is non-existent.

An independent is either a liar or a rudderless shaved ape.

All three are lies contructed for one of two purposes:

1. Deception: Opposition infiltration, with the purpose of directing the policy of the infiltrated, or a deliberate intent to defame by association.

2. Self-Deception: A low information voter who is less than pleased with his own party, and is merely grazing in the other party’s yard until the grass greens back home. Meanwhile he vomits his previous ideas onto his second party in a sad, misguided attempt to recreate the exact same mistakes or “mistakes” inherent in his first. I call this California Syndrome.

The California Idiot, having voted Democrats in and subsequently learning the shocking fact that when you vote communist, you get communism, moves to Montana. But Montana is flyover country, lacking the elitism and rare air of his former state. So he gets involved in Montana politics with an eye toward making Montana stink like the cesspool he sullied and later moves on, leaving a Detroit-like mess in his place.

Essentially, the California Idiot is a political locust. You can see his work in what is left of Colorado.

The Illinois Idiot is of the same species.

 
 
 

One need only read the bio of Terry Moran's brother

ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 7:51PM EST (link)

to understand “where he’s coming from.”

http://rightwingnuthouse.com/about/

My conservative instincts tell me to allow the dear readers of Mr. Rick “I’m not a party man” Moran’s bio to come to their own conclusions.

Thank you.

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So the little whiney baby ran back to his pathetic blog...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:45PM EST (link)

and cried….that is so FUNNY!!!! literally I am ROTFLMAO. OMG he is so like Obama it has got to be an elitist thing. Is he highly educated? or does he just pimp himself as intelligent? This is just too funny for words so I will just continue laughing and mocking him.

Honey, I shrunk my base

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 8:17PM EST (link)
 
 

Wow. I wasn't even being *mean*.

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 12:24AM EST (link)

Meanwhile, the situation in places like NJ-12 is such that I get people thanking me for happening to notice that there’s a Republican running for the seat there. Because they’re happy to see that they’re not utterly forgotten.

This isn’t praise of me; it’s an indictment of our current system. And I worry about it a hell of a lot more than whether another blogger’s ticked off at me.

Wow. He actually called you (and us) anti-conservative!

TNJim (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 1:16AM EST (link)

Obviously, a man of few words – and little else. Of course, he needn’t worry about the future since after this post hits the tubes, my name will be mud at RedState and even if I were allowed to, the prospect of posting on a site with such anti-conservative moderators and commenters (read the rest of what passes for criticism) has lost its allure.

Of course, he turned me off when he told you conservatism needs to be “reformed”. I agree with Jaded’s comment in Moran’s diary where she said “The only reform that is needed is in the Republican party and that is exactly what Levin and this site and Rush etc are attempting to do.”

I guess this makes me an “angry ideologue” too…

So be it.

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normally I wouldn't bother...

Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle) (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 7:44AM EST (link)

however, I think it’s quite justified in going after this crowd of people that seem to think that what’s going on in Washington is common democrat vs republican politics as usual

it’s not… and I believe those who claim conservatives should back off the socialist rant really ought to be shown just how wrong they are… they claim they want the Reagan coalition back… by somehow convincing the moderates and independents that Democrats are not our enemies, they’re just “misguided” or “wrongheaded”…

clearly the “It’s the spending stupid” is catching on… and idiots like Mr. Moran don’t seem to understand the importance of distancing ourselves from radical spending designed to undermine our republic.

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"Politics as Usual"

Erick Brockway (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 9:48AM EST (link)

…it is definately not, as you point out.
This battle today is the product of years of radical communist beliefs, and most prople don’t even see it taking place.
Moran is obviously asleep at the keyboard.
I would invite him to delve just a bit deeper into the Czar list, and see what’s going on.
It’s not tinfoil hat stuff, just dismissed as such to dilute the warning.
Our nation is in serious trouble; not just terrorism we have to worry about anymore
Like it or not, Moran needs to realize the gloves are off now; it’s for real. The libs, led by who knows who, are going for all the marbles this time.

No most people DO see it taking place

Raven (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 10:23AM EST (link)

But the elitists do not. It threatens their power base and the fawning adulation they receive from their fellows and their followers.

It has taken not years, but Decades to come to this point, and it happened on the watch of those elitists. For them to be able to join us in fixing it, they have to admit to themselves, at least, that they were wrong all along. That they FAILED to do the job they took upon themselves.

This is something I will always commend McCain for: he tried to publicly admit his past failure as a political defender of the Constitution with his pick of Palin. And he tried to drive that point home with his fellow Republican Party leaders. Unfortunately, he’d forgotten how to do it effectively, and most of those leaders never got the point.

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Luke 22:36

 
 
 
 

Well done Standardcandle

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 4:04AM EST (link)

I read his post over there…pathetic

dudes a whiner and you and Moe nailed him…….5

See below. nt

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 2:31AM EST (link)

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 

As did you, $peciallist.

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 2:30AM EST (link)

This is as good a place as any to state that “statist” pretty neatly sums up all that is wrong with today’s “progressives.” And it’s more precisely pejorative than “liberal.”

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 

Bravo!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 4:56AM EST (link)

I truly love the last paragraph. It sounds like the biblical Joshua’s testimony of faith to me.

As for me and my house? Americans that show up to a local events and volunteer to do their civil duty, and truly carry the water in the bucket by becoming a committee member or a precinct chair have every right to label today’s modern leftist democrat a socialistic communist without judgement from the intellectual peanut gallery.

Plus: it doesn’t hurt when this diary defends Moe (although I don’t think he needs one) against the rant of the Conservative Moron.

 

If you give a RINO a cookie

RoguePolitics (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 4:10PM EST (link)

He is as apt to steal the rest of the jar as any other statist.

And if you complain YOU are the extremist.

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