The Obama-Frank defense cuts create an opening


McCain can ride these differences

My friend and colleague, Patrick Ottenhoff, had an interesting analysis of Virginia back in June that could be on the money:

Major federal contractors set up shop in Northern Virginia and, in turn, subcontracted work to technology firms that hired accountants and lawyers. The young professionals who work at those firms in Tysons Corner, Reston and Ashburn are part of Obama’s core constituency. But the ideology and lifeblood of many of these firms is rooted in continued defense spending — one part of the Bush legacy that McCain would be sure to continue. In an election in which Republicans’ Iraq policy will hurt McCain in almost every state, his bullish foreign policy could actually help him in some quarters of Virginia.

Let’s forgive Pat for missing the economic crisis and improvement in Iraq and focus on the basic economic point for a moment. When Barney Frank said that he would cut defense spending by 25%, both resonating with an image of Barack Obama and particular statements, an opportunity was created.

State Jobs Money
Florida 723,000 $52b
Virginia 245,000 $56b
 North Carolina 416,000 $23b
Pennsylvania  60,000  $8b
Missouri 159,000  

Significant defense cuts have the opportunity to creat massive economic dislocations for people and communities. And they know it. Just look at the terror in Northern Virginia over BRAC. John McCain’s campaign figured this out. This is basic paycheck issue for a lot of hard-working people. Suddenly, Barack Obama’s "radicalism" means something to real people. Let’s look at some numbers.

The key thing to realize hereis that you can cut ads in these states and people will get it. Imagine scripts like these:

Barack Obama doesn’t just endanger our national security wtih his untested ideas, he  endangers [state]‘s economic security.  In [state], that means [jobs] jobs. And it just starts there. When you remove those jobs from [state] everyone suffers from even lower house prices to the damage done to small businesses.

These can be supplemented with statements by local politians who, inevitably, fell over themselves to talk about BRAC and the damage that removing even one office at one military base, or even civilian office, would do to the community.

This is an issue that, when tied with Joe the Plumber and whatever crazy ACORN or whatever else stuff pops over the weekend can resonate with John McCain’s underlying message. These are real issues. Barack Obama is talking about "change", while John McCain is talking about what’s in your pocket-book. That’s something that people understand and that we need to nail the last 5 days of the campaign.

 

Cross-posted from The Next Right


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This country cannot afford Democrat Party cuts to this Nations Defense (Peace, through Strength)

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 12:18AM EST (link)

Excerpt from Can we afford a Obama SURRENDER doctrine/dividend?

ObamaBinBiden doctrine will be the “Surrender First” policy.

But more so to my point over the long haul. Remember when Donald Rumsfeld said ‘you have to go to war with the army you have?’ What he should have said was “We had to go to War with the diminished Armed Forces that the Democrats and the Clinton Administration left us!” Down 200,000 Troop level, that extra amount for that “over-whelming” force we could have had. Remember all those calls about not having enough ARMOR? Again, what administration cut back on Defense preparedness spending?

Bill Clinton harmed this country, and we are paying the price ever since, for his supposed “Peace Dividend.” …

The Obama plan will similarly cut Defense and weaken America, I coin it the “Surrender Dividend,” which will hurt our country far beyond what Clinton did during a “relative” time of Peace (if you define it as absence of all-out-war, while we were under attack left and right during Clinton and he just lobbed an occasional Cruise Missile). The Clinton “Ignore Terrorism and maybe it will go away” doctrine escalated to the apex of the 9/11 attacks.

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Let me sound a contrary note

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 6:20AM EST (link)

Although I agree that the kind of cuts the Democrats want would be excessive and dangerous. We will probably have to have some cuts in defense spending as we wind down the war in Iraq.

Look, here is the thing that no one on the left or right wants to face: We are broke.

let me repeat,

We are broke.

We have a looming social security crises,
Deficit spending, a huge debt, 700 billion to the financial markets, the states have their own unfunded liabilities.

We are broke. I see major austerity or major inflation, or both in the future.

So whether we like it or not, we will have to cut in all areas, and the military is one area that is ripe with cost overruns,
redundancy, and out right fraud.

Even conservatives have to admit that. Those things always multiply during a war when you need something right away and don’t have time to look closely at the cost.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 

If you think house values in NOVA are bad NOW...

smagar (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 6:51AM EST (link)

wait until the Beltway Bandits stop getting contracts, and start releasing people in droves.

Remember, folks—contracters generally work on a series of one-year contracts. I.e., a five-year contract normally has only one or two base years, and the rest of the years are “option years.”

That means that, every year, the government has the option to modify the contract or drop it altogether.

Job security under an Obama-Frank administration will be per se in jeopardy for that reason alone.

Now, add onto it a stated desire by one of the two leading Congressional Democrats on financial issues (Dodd being the other) to cut defense by one quarter!

You don’t want to fire the government DOD employees. So…who has to go?

That’s right…

Good point about all the businesses in Chantilly, Sterling, Tysons Corner, Centreville, Ashburn, Leesburg and other places that will see revenue drop sharply if those contracting companies evacuate large numbers of those office complexes along Routes 7 and 28 near Dulles Airport.

Good thing I live in Arizona!

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

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Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 6:53AM EST (link)

Nicely put.

Tim Schieferecke

 
 

NOVA ought to be the first to go

DontBanMeBro Thursday, October 30th at 7:04AM EST (link)

As Kyle points out above, we are broke. Paying down the debt and starting to live within our means ought to be way near the top of priorities. I am not comfortable borrowing more from the Chinese or future generations to maintain the same level of government waste which brings me to my next point…

Northern Virginia is covered with piglets each reaching for a government teat. Back when the government was a more reasonable size, that whole area didn’t exist. We should be pushing to return to that time, not encouraging the status quo.

This nation is covered with piglets

wennejunk (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:26AM EST (link)

When you force them off the teat and redirect the money towards debt reduction, then you start to become fiscally responsible.

So, yes, we do need to change direction on our debt financed future, no disagreement there.

Dropping 25% of Defense is not the way to do that. Pointing out the ramifications of this kind of cut is a plus for McCain.

There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis

Bunk.

hunter (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:33AM EST (link)

If we are broke, and cutting is the way to go, then why is The One going to create so much massive new spending?
You guys are well trained.

hunter

So the engineers and contractors are little piglets?

hunter (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:36AM EST (link)

But people sitting back voting for The One to give them more from the engineers and contractors and hard workers are the patriots?
Moe,
Clean up on aisle 5

hunter

Remember, folks (from NOVA): Obama supporter.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:48AM EST (link)

Hey, isn’t NOVA supposed to be Bluer than the rest of the state? Sounds like somebody has a problem with Democrats.

Tsk, tsk.

Well Moe I do believe that NOVA is a little....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:56AM EST (link)

“communist” …..that’s what McCain’s brother said :-)

Let me as a NOVA person on the ground tell you that there is more support here than the polls are indicating…..knocking on doors and putting up signs and heck a lot of the time there are already a lot of signs already on the ground.

More and more McCain stickers than Obama on my ride on 66 every day and a lot of thumbs up!

Me thinks that NOVA likes the money they get from the government for defense and would fight to the voter’s box to ensure that stays a mainstay here!

Eh...

Old_Dominion (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 9:19AM EST (link)

…you’re asking these voters to make a certain mental leap that is going to be difficult to get through to them at this stage of the game. I spent several years as a defense contractor in Northern Virginia, and I’d be shocked if any of my colleagues in the vast cubicle farms of Crystal City and the Washington Navy Yard area are going to think Obama might cut defense, DoD might subcontract out less work to us, and my job might then be in jeopardy. The reality is that these companies are almost all desperately understaffed. Despite having left the industry, I still get regular calls from defense contracting recruiters who have a years-old resume of mine from either Monster or Washington Post Jobs. Convincing these folks that their jobs could potentially be in danger is going to be damned near impossible five days out. Expecting employees of companies that do business with these contractors is going to require an even bigger mental leap.

The point is a good one, but it’s not going to break through the clutter of election messages, especially with the POTUS candidates blanketing the airwaves, Mark Warner running up the score, and two knock-down, drag out fights in VA-10 and VA-11.

You guys?

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 9:45AM EST (link)

Haven’t been on redstate for long have you?
I am an arch right winger with almost four years on this site.

I don’t give a crap about Obama’s plans. What I am stating is the total truth. We have no money, we are borrowing like no tomorrow. And guess what? sooner or later there is no tomorrow when you keep doing that.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Been here since before the 2004 election

hunter (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 10:10AM EST (link)

And if you are such an arch conservative, then at least recognize who the enemy is.

hunter

the enemy is

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 10:37AM EST (link)

a failure to see the truth

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Send them this...

Nixons_The_One (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 1:12PM EST (link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9M54_8rRk

Follow up by:
“If you are working on these future combat systems, missile defense…watch out for your paycheck.

If you are working in the defense industry, are you willing to take the chance Obama won’t cut your job?”