So let’s say McCain loses Ohio….
Loses the election by a handful of electorial votes.
Where if he won Ohio…
he would have won the election.
Then couldn’t they contest the entire election?
When someone votes in Ohio is it recorded that
someone showed up and you can see who they
voted for?
Just the fact they are dragging in people off the street
the same day is disturbing.

As an Ohio citizen I am wondering if anyone knows where I can find some more information on the incidence of voter fraud in my state. I’m also curious about the outcomes of any sort of legal action that took place as a result. My attempts at searching the internet on my own were unsuccessful but I’m not really sure where to look.

Doesn’t Ohio have election laws? Are they being violated?

Sounds like. So why aren’t lawyers parachuting into Ohio to get a handle on this thing?

If the Republican party lays down and plays dead, we deserve to lose.

The longer they hold out the longer the fraud continues.
They are probably watching and waiting to see how
many are voting. They could probably throw out all those
one day wonder votes.

I still believe the White House is in Ohio’s hands.

I don’t know much about monitoring these sort of things, but couldn’t the Republican Party have some volunteers in the parking lot videotaping everyone that goes in and out? At least have some sort of record if fraud is occuring?

An open, unmonitored voting station a month before the election in the most important state in this election is just asking for a Florida-type scenario.

The Republican Party needs to file lawsuits and court orders to make sure this process is honest and transparent.

I received the email from the McCain campaign asking us to vote early. I vote every year so I didn’t need to register but did go down to the site to vote. I certainly was a minority. There were a lot more people than I thought. There was one trailer in the parking lot (far enough from the doors) and they must have been passing out Democraty sheets as I saw people coming in with their list of who to vote for. I had thought they they would need to see my picture ID but they didn’t ask for it. I only needed to know the last 4 digits of my social security number and complete and sign two forms.

Donna

What’s going on here in Ohio is beyond the pale. It’s just absurd.

News piece from the Cleveland Plain Dealer
here. Note, the Ohio Supreme Court has backed this and Brunner’s legal mumbo jumbo that this is not “voting” but “casting ballets” and thus the 30 day requirement is not being violated.

*Early voting survived court challenges on Monday and Tuesday from the Ohio Republican Party. A federal district court, federal appeals court and the Ohio Supreme Court have now ruled in favor of early voting. *

We’ve run our legal course in the state. It will take something from the federal level at this point. Basically, the Ohio court agrees it is casting a ballot because the voter can be validated between now and election day. If they don’t validate the ballot is discarded and the vote portion doesn’t take place. Their reasoning is because its ballot casting the 30 day law isn’t violated, their vote happens on election day 30 days after the registration. The 30 day law is still on the books and not violated.

But everyone is calling it voting, so the reasonable person would probably see it as voting. Due process grounds? What do the attorneys out here think? Can the state of Ohio make up its own definition of what the “act of voting” is? Can one state call this voting but Ohio not? It’s clearly voting and conflicting with the intent of the Ohio law, but the kangaroo court says it’s not voting and thus no conflict.

In addition, how do you validate it was that person that registered and “casted their ballot” at the same time, not some ACORN buddy of Obama’s? The act of voting is suppose to take place after the validation so they have to show up a second time as that same person and with an ID. There’s less authentication here that violates the intent of the 30 days. I think there’s federal due process all over this, but I’m not an attorney.

Might need to do my first diary entry. God knows I’ve been out here long enough.

Between shady voter registration practices and the media, McCain/Palin don’t stand a chance of winning. The only bright beam of hope is that God is still in control.

The firestorm is this were Democrats somehow being kept from voting or as poll observers. Or if the GOP calls for a recount, how we’ll suddenly be even more “evil and unfair” too.

This is all just sick to read. I hope McCain has some viable ground game there, or we’ll need to buck the Ohio GOP tradition for the white house.

a press almost completely in the tank for one party, that same party attempting to use the State to limit the speach of opponents.

This is beginning to sound awfully familiar.

Ohio has a statewide voter database so if a person registers and casts a ballot in one place and then tries to register and cast a ballot in another, the check of the registration will show the previous registration and ballot being issued. Person has then violated the law and should be prosecuted…ballot thrown out.

The problem is the change in the law that allows the homeless to register listing the address where the ‘usually’ stay. You could go in, register and vote and then VOTE IN ANOTHER STATE. The same with college students. They can register and vote in Ohio, but still get absentee ballots from their ‘home’ state and vote there as well.

These are the same people who will at the same time sue to block military absentee ballots..

They picked me up and took me up to Ohio, and they showed me how I can vote every day until Novemeber! I’m so stoked!

I’m voting 30 times for McCain! Koool!

Go vote multiple times for McCain, then go on Fox and tell how it was done.

Sometimes i think stories like these are some kind of Tsung Tsu tactic to defeat you in your mind before you ever vote, its not over til its over. Remember the polls are ALWAYS padded democrat if McCain is even with Obama that means McCain will win by a landslide..

I have tried for weeks to get involved in Ohio. I am an attorney and a member of the NRLA (one of 23 in Ohio). I have filled out the forms on the Ohio GOP website and the Lawyers for McCain website.

Only now have I started to get asked to do something. So, with no notice whatsoever, I provided my information and was signed up to work shifts tonight, tomorrow morning, Saturday and Sunday. I am really trying to help here… so I leave work early (and mind you that my wife is stuck at home with two young children with the flu), head down to the polling location.

I call the county hq contact person, as the materials instruct me to do, and I feel like I’m speaking Chinese. After I explain myself, I’m instructed to go inside. I go inside, and am turned away because the proper forms weren’t filed with the county board of elections.

I go to the county GOP hq and the necessary paperwork is sitting on a desk. There was knowledge that the papers needed filled out, but they were not.

I’m getting burned out and I’m still just trying to volunteer! I have a degree in political science, a law degree, and both litigation and appellate experience and I feel like I am begging for the GOP to give me something to do as McCain’s poll numbers continue to drop in Ohio…

refuse to seat the electors from Ohio. There must be a bare minimum of honesty in the election, and if this stands, Ohio will have none.

these kind of stories really depress me.

Cashed/abused on his horde by writing a book titled ‘[Make Me Some Money]‘.

Again, in order to beat the enemy, it’s best to know thy enemy.

They use words like vitriol and hate. They barricade votes. This is modern day gunpoint ballet enforcement.

It is the epitome of hypocrisy. Don’t let them get away with this.