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	<title>Comments on: Old Man Defends Property and Lives?! How Awful, sneers the Associated Press</title>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/snarkandboobs/2009/08/16/old-man-defends-property-and-lives-how-awful-sneers-the-associated-press/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know you&#039;re a busy man. Of course we did get treated today to some good old fashioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/patrick_murdock/2009/08/27/11-is-more-than-enough/#comment-6&quot;&gt;lefty talking points&lt;/a&gt;s on ObamaCare™®. I offered nearweirdest some reading material (HR 3200) as a rebuttal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know you&#8217;re a busy man. Of course we did get treated today to some good old fashioned <a href="http://www.redstate.com/patrick_murdock/2009/08/27/11-is-more-than-enough/#comment-6">lefty talking points</a>s on ObamaCare™®. I offered nearweirdest some reading material (HR 3200) as a rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/snarkandboobs/2009/08/16/old-man-defends-property-and-lives-how-awful-sneers-the-associated-press/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we can safely dispense with somebody willing to defend his moral principles to the last drop of Charles Augusto&#039;s blood.

Blam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we can safely dispense with somebody willing to defend his moral principles to the last drop of Charles Augusto&#8217;s blood.</p>
<p>Blam.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/snarkandboobs/2009/08/16/old-man-defends-property-and-lives-how-awful-sneers-the-associated-press/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nearweirdest

The legal standard is something called &quot;In fear of your life&quot;. 

Four armed thugs with guns  CHECK
Armed thugs attacking workers with intent to inflict great bodily harm CHECK
Armed citizen exercising his right of self defense against armed assault, in fear of his life.    CHECK

This was not about property, or protecting property, this was a lawful response of an armed citizen who was in fear for his life and the lives of his employees at the hands of four armed thugs commuting an armed robbery ...end of story. 

What&#039;s the saying, &lt;b&gt;dead man walking&lt;/b&gt;...and the world is a better place without these pieces of human excrement in it. 

If anything, the man should be given a medal, or a life time supply of ammo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nearweirdest</p>
<p>The legal standard is something called &#8220;In fear of your life&#8221;. </p>
<p>Four armed thugs with guns  CHECK<br />
Armed thugs attacking workers with intent to inflict great bodily harm CHECK<br />
Armed citizen exercising his right of self defense against armed assault, in fear of his life.    CHECK</p>
<p>This was not about property, or protecting property, this was a lawful response of an armed citizen who was in fear for his life and the lives of his employees at the hands of four armed thugs commuting an armed robbery &#8230;end of story. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the saying, <b>dead man walking</b>&#8230;and the world is a better place without these pieces of human excrement in it. </p>
<p>If anything, the man should be given a medal, or a life time supply of ammo.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nearweirdest</title>
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		<dc:creator>nearweirdest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP definitely took the side of the young robbers, and they shouldn&#039;t be taking sides at all.  That was wrong, indeed.

I&#039;m just trying to give my perspective for why I think that guy might have overreacted a little recklessly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP definitely took the side of the young robbers, and they shouldn&#8217;t be taking sides at all.  That was wrong, indeed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just trying to give my perspective for why I think that guy might have overreacted a little recklessly.</p>
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		<title>By: nearweirdest</title>
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		<dc:creator>nearweirdest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I&#039;m not.  Yes, I&#039;m a bleeding heart liberal.  I don&#039;t kill people for what they *might* have done.  I like to think that if he had just given them the money, they probably would have left without hurting anyone.

And I stick by my statement that I think it was reckless for that guy to start shooting.  If I&#039;m one person up against 4 people with guns, and I shoot one of them, how am I to know that the other 3 won&#039;t start shooting?  They&#039;ll shoot me, they&#039;ll shoot other people.  He could have easily gotten himself and his employees killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I&#8217;m not.  Yes, I&#8217;m a bleeding heart liberal.  I don&#8217;t kill people for what they *might* have done.  I like to think that if he had just given them the money, they probably would have left without hurting anyone.</p>
<p>And I stick by my statement that I think it was reckless for that guy to start shooting.  If I&#8217;m one person up against 4 people with guns, and I shoot one of them, how am I to know that the other 3 won&#8217;t start shooting?  They&#8217;ll shoot me, they&#8217;ll shoot other people.  He could have easily gotten himself and his employees killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori_Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori_Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, had they shot the store owner who had the gun he would not have been able to return fire.  

You admit they all had guns, waiting until someone got shot is foolish in the extreme.  They had the means to lethally harm someone, more than enough justification.

They had several more minutes of life than I would have allowed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, had they shot the store owner who had the gun he would not have been able to return fire.  </p>
<p>You admit they all had guns, waiting until someone got shot is foolish in the extreme.  They had the means to lethally harm someone, more than enough justification.</p>
<p>They had several more minutes of life than I would have allowed them.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the MSM and bleeding heart liberals make victims out of the perpetrators.  This has been increasing for decades.  Just look at the funeral send off that guy got in Oakland, Ca.  He killed four policemen before finally being killed.  And the people cried foul on the bad guy&#039;s behalf.  The liberals have managed to make the good guys into bad guys at almost every turn.  It isn&#039;t just about guns, although they can cause the most lethal outcome, it is about what has happened to justice in this nation.

The news story of today: the release of the terrorist Al Megrahi of the Lockerbie, Scotland airplane bombing.  &quot;Compassion&quot; for the perpetrator, denies justice for the victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the MSM and bleeding heart liberals make victims out of the perpetrators.  This has been increasing for decades.  Just look at the funeral send off that guy got in Oakland, Ca.  He killed four policemen before finally being killed.  And the people cried foul on the bad guy&#8217;s behalf.  The liberals have managed to make the good guys into bad guys at almost every turn.  It isn&#8217;t just about guns, although they can cause the most lethal outcome, it is about what has happened to justice in this nation.</p>
<p>The news story of today: the release of the terrorist Al Megrahi of the Lockerbie, Scotland airplane bombing.  &#8220;Compassion&#8221; for the perpetrator, denies justice for the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: aesthete</title>
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		<dc:creator>aesthete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the uncertainty of the outcome of peacefully giving these urban brigands his property justified a strong, decisive response, IMO. Certainly, it&#039;s unfair to pass judgement on him to the contrary in such a high-pressure scenario, and the AP&#039;s sneering at him and making the criminals out to be the victims only discourages the responsible use and acceptance of firearms in appropriate situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the uncertainty of the outcome of peacefully giving these urban brigands his property justified a strong, decisive response, IMO. Certainly, it&#8217;s unfair to pass judgement on him to the contrary in such a high-pressure scenario, and the AP&#8217;s sneering at him and making the criminals out to be the victims only discourages the responsible use and acceptance of firearms in appropriate situations.</p>
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