That’s the heck of this. It’s like “0.6 +/- 10″. WTH????

“Again saying something that I personally had long ago concluded, climate variability is so intrinsically large as to preclude the ability to even find AGW at the small levels that are being claimed for it.”

Let me quantify that. The diurnal variation in temperature at any one location is between ten and several tens of degrees F. The annual variation runs from several tens to more than a hundred degrees F. The temperature variation around the globe at any one time runs close to two hundred degrees F. But the AGW types are attempting to measure variations in the “average” (of an “average” of an “average”) global temperature over a decade that amounts to a few HUNDREDTHS of a degree F. If it were even possible, does it have any meaning?

This is wrong. Untouched forest will naturally result to wildfires, which also occur naturally.

I think that this conference as discussed in the diary will also touch on both forest management and “biomass technologies” to combat climate change.

But I believe that discussing forest management, forest products, and biomass technologies is more appropriate in a “non-political” arena that focuses on sustainable economic development. National disaster mitigation is just one of the societal needs that can draw our attention to forest sustainable management and utilization.

Despite its obvious and usual Left-wing-bent Politics… I loved the movie: WALL-E…. Maybe, just maybe, it will get some youth worrying about Trees again and open to our message!!!!

Regardless of the CO2 bruhaha, saving/nurturing/expanding our Forests is is the only viable way to address many of our problems. Planting more trees in the cities can also be a good strategy.

On the other hand, I just love trees. I love the country atmosphere because of the colorful forest leaves especially during autumn. My wife says that she feels safer and closer to God whenever she’s surrounded by beautiful trees. And I agree.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN COMBAT THE CLIMATE CHANGE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BY MAKING A CASE FOR REBUILDING AND MANAGEMENT OF OUR FORESTS.

Gore’s Climate Change strategy is hypothetical. A Massive Program for Forest sustainability and expansion management is more realistic and has more immediate positive economic impacts. I believe in sustainable forest utilization and cultivation. It will create jobs for our minority group, especially the great Indian communities. My favorite people, the Hillbillies in the mountain, will also be happy for this kind of opportunities. I think no one can really enumerate the various useful products that can be obtained from the trees especially natural medicine.

But please make no mistake. If we bring down one tree, we must plant at least 10 seedlings to ensure its replacement. And we need to respect some harvesting cycles to allow for that replacement to succeed.

Since 1988, California has been destroyed by political climate change.

Nowadays, average Californians don’t know who the Real Americans are: They think that Illegal Immigrants are more American than the American Conservatives/Republicans.

There is NOTHING more important than taking care of the Trees that give us the Oxygen we need and taking away the CO2…. We heard for DECADES the hue and cry about “Save The RainForests” and yet they (Enviro-Terrorists) REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FIRES HERE AT HOME!!!!! They always block our attempts to save Land (Trees) from Fires through Land Management – though we have to admit some attempts at “controlled burns” have “burned” (pardon the bad pun) us…. However, had we been able to properly allow companies in to cut Fire breaks, clear under-brush and dying Trees (not profitable for them, but they’re willing to do if it is part of the greater process of logging responsibilities), etc….

Coupled with working to moving some water through those areas as we’ve discussed would help serve as breaks and provide the water we need when we do have to fight the NATURAL (and/or Arson) FIRES that do occur!

But I don’t want the Congress to hide it as an earmark project. This must be made and implemented as a transparent program/project. Everyone should be aware of it. Project to me means that there is a start and an end to the activity and funding. If it fails, then let us all recognize it as it is without any hype. If it succeeds, then try to think of how the private sector can come in to sustain it.

The same should apply to other potential disaster/environmental mitigation projects.

All this really needed to be started ages ago… as I’ve already said…. because it is unfortunate that land acquisition and Right-of-ways will take forever in and of itself… Not to mention the Enviro-Terrorists that will want to block it even though we’d be working to “Save The Planet” in some senses….

Again, too late when we’re all starving when our Farms can’t produce enough to feed the US let alone most the World.

As far as moving the water westward… It doesn’t have to all be above ground…. the further west we go the main purpose would be for moving the water rather than a usable (commerce/passengers) waterway…. Tunneling to avoid elevation and/or evaporation issues…. HOWEVER, even putting water westward that evaporates is helpful… water has to be evaporated in order for rain cycles to build….

Rio Grand could/should be better managed and even Desalination plants put in place to help bring Fresh Water inland using that NATURAL PATH!

It will be TOO LATE when all of America is starving because are Farms have no Water to grow anything with!!!! These actions could be taking place NOW…. None of that has anything to do with the need for FEAR TACTICS of Global Warming Paranoia (just common sense reasoning as we’ve outlined here)! Done with purpose but without PANIC to mitigate the costs of what would be a massive undertaking – you want Long Term Jobs? rather than Obama’s 1-2 year patch the roads temporary BS, this would do that…. HOWEVER, this should have started to take place during BOOM TIMES, when the Nation can afford to start to undertake these types of things, rather than during a down economy – the current sense of urgency over jobs could be used to get these going as I’d rather see this (IMO) sensible concept over all the WASTEFUL and USELESS IN THE LONG TERM Special Interest monies being pissed away by the Democrats…. This would benefit the entire country over the long term!

I like your idea of a navigable waterway, but out here a lot would be lost to evaporation (I think).

And just think how many jobs would be created in the process.

Many Michiganders FEAR the diversion of the Great Lakes… I DO NOT… Frankly I think that we should have started DECADES AGO on connecting the Great Lakes off Lake Michigan with a workable/navigable waterway westward to link the Lakes up with the Mississippi, Missouri, and the Colorado….. This would aid/assist on Passenger and Consumer Goods transit as well as allowing us to mitigate FLOOD/DROUGHT cycles that generally DO NOT occur all at the same time throughout all those regions. A series of Control Gates and/or Locks could be put in place.

All this would also allow us to reclaim dry/arid lands westward along this Project as it connects outward to the Colorado!!!

Using the arguments of the Democrats that science and technology are so unlimited and open new avenues: Why not use all these global money in useful modern devices and high-tech infrastructure for disaster mitigation in times of prolonged drought, prolonged winter, flood controls, effective wind breakers/deflectors, etc.?

Our priority should be on things that we can have “direct”controls on.

I really smell hypocrisy here:

If the Dems in our society can accept that gay is a “NATURAL” behavior of man that cannot be fought or controlled by the individual that exhibits it, why can’t they accept the fact that Climate Change is a customary behavior of NATURE and we, mere mortals, have very limited powers to control it.

The sad thing is this: We are exploring ways to control Climate Change by sacrificing our very own means to pursue further economic development.