“7 Ex-Soviet Nations to Form Rapid Reaction Force”


Has The Rest Of The World Drawn Conclusions Already, And Is Moving Accordingly?

Yesterday, the government of the central Asian nation of Kyrgyzstan announced that it won’t be renewing the leasing agreement with the United States for the use of military bases there – ending the odd arrangement of being the only country in the world that was hosting both American and Russian military bases at the same time.

One can speculate if the domestic political situation here was a factor, but the Reuters reporter who filed the above-cited story sure didn’t have any qualms about it:

The decision by a traditional Russian ally in Central Asia sends a tough signal and challenge to new U.S. President Barack Obama as he plans to send additional troops to Afghanistan.

That obviously creates difficulties for any planned “surge strategy” in Afghanistan; but it also represents a choosing-of-sides by the Kyrgyz government.

And today, there is this:

7 Ex-Soviet Nations to Form Rapid Reaction Force

Seven former Soviet republics including Russia will form a joint rapid reaction force, President Dmitry Medvedev said Wednesday.

President Dmitry Medvedev said Russia, Armenia, Belarus and four Central Asian nations — Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan — had reached the agreement to form a new security force during a summit of the Moscow-dominated Collective Security Treaty Organization on Wednesday.

The force would add a military dimension to the Moscow-dominated alliance, which so far has served mostly as a forum for consultations.

“We all have agreed on the need” for the force, Medvedev said, but he did not give details of how the force would be composed.

“We” indeed.

The Russians are in a big hurry (for reasons I’ve stated elsewhere). And they sense weakness….


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Russia's in a hurry to do what?

Cheetah772 (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:32PM EST (link)

If Russia is in a big hurry to recapture some of her former glory, then somehow I doubt it’ll be a bloodless endeavor. Some people will have to die. So, tell me, where Russia is going to make her stand offensively, either within political or military realm?

Is Russia willing to go to war with Urkaine over Sevasptool issue? In Georgia conflict, Russia has shown she is willing to use military muscle to get what she wants. In order to restore her former glory, some kind of military action is inevitable, so do you have a clue when and where it’s going to occur?

Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.

You would be surprised

wennejunk (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:51PM EST (link)

How far the suggestion of unpleasant activities can carry someone (or a Nation), especially when everyone involved knows exactly what’s being implied and when there’s no effective counterweight around.

I think Russia is in a hurry precisely because:

1. they can make rapid gains without actual force
2. Its a lot harder to move someone out than to stop them from coming in
3. It’s going to take a while (4 -8 years) for the Obama administration to figure out what Russia (and others apparently) already know about the muscle behind our new foreign policy.

They’re gonna get while the gettin’s good.

There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis

 

Russian Haste

Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:59PM EST (link)

The short take on Russian haste is that Putin and co. (IMHO) are reprising Peter-the-Great thinking. Russia has been weak, and BECAUSE OF THAT has a crumbling society – and thus if Russia can be restored to its deserved position of importance in the world, its society will heal and all its social problems will go away.

They’re in a hurry because this is a race-condition between societal collapse and the saving re-aggrandizement.

The invertebrate Obama cohort is so obviously weak that it’s a perfect encouragement for this project.

So, Russia will continue to push everywhere in its perceived “sphere of influence” and will push harder wherever weakness is encountered.

 
 

The Russian’s smell naïveté from 5,000 miles away

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:46PM EST (link)

It’s one issue to make broad political statements and a display proclivity for failed diplomatic strategies as a candidate. It is completely befuddling and weak to continue that contra intellectual postulation as President. Somebody please send Obama and his acolytes a primer on the Cold War. The next after that should be on Central Asian culture.

The Russians probably knew when Mr. Rock Star had the Green’s, anarchists, communists and other anti-democratic wedge groups holding hands with him in Germany a new day was dawning. It fits perfectly with their nostalgic journey back to the good old days of Marx and Lenin.

Oh and there is this little tidbit;

“Russia announced plans to spend nearly $50 billion a year, over the next three years, in purchasing new weapons and equipment for its ground forces. Russia plans to increase production of conventional weapons 30 percent over the next two years, and expects to more than double that by 2015.”

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200911414044.asp

In case anybody forgot, Obama wants a 10% cut across the entire defense budget- change you can believe in.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

"we" = Medmedev and that frog in his pocket

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:52PM EST (link)

Yeah, I just BET all 7 nation-states agreed on that need.

Curious the absence of Ukraine, Lattvia, Estonia, and Lithuania in this alliance. Well, not surprising, but telling.

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EPU,

Wayne (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 2:01PM EST (link)

they certainly agreed, or else!! As evidenced by the Zero’s weak non-response and then his copy of McCain’s response to the Geogia invasion, they smell blood in the water. And I doubt they hold the new SOS in awe, either.

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

 

Partial CIS

Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 2:03PM EST (link)

Also missing are Georgia (or course), Moldova, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan.

The other six in this thing are places that have not broken as free of Russia as the others; the Baltic countries were never even part of the post-Soviet “CIS” group of 12.

But this is clearly a big step forward for re-assembling the old Russian Empire (even Lenin had to do that after the Russian Civil War)….

 
 

The reconstitution of the Soviet Union

1SGinTN (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 2:04PM EST (link)

during his watch will look good on Obama’s resume, eh?

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

More Like The Old Russian Empire

Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 2:11PM EST (link)

They’re probably shooting for the old Russian Empire since it actually did better.

After winning the Russian Civil War, the Bolsheviks set out to reconquer the parts of the Russian Empire that had broken away. It actually worked pretty well, such as in (!!) Central Asia. It failed badly in eastern Europe (the Red Army was notably beaten in both Poland and in Estonia) – so “Russia” never got back to the extent in Europe that it had been before 1914; after 1945, they technically got further, but those were also technically satellites not parts of “Russia”….

Think Peter the Great, not Stalin….

I was being intellectually lazy

1SGinTN (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 3:03PM EST (link)

with my poor analogy, by falling back on my personal frame of reference. My statement makes a more ominous sound bite for the historically challenged, though.

You are right, of course. Perhaps we can expect the New Russian Empire to be more transparent, since it is not likely to import an ideology on a global basis. Putin himself had already admitted the failure of the Marxist template. Plain old greed and power without the mask of the proletariat struggle is simpler to deal with.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

 
 
 

"Has The Rest Of The World Drawn Conclusions Already, And Is Moving Accordingly?"

roxer Wednesday, February 4th at 2:11PM EST (link)

No, this has been in the works for a few years now. Since China was able to merge communism with a capitalist lite type economy, the former USSR has also seen the light. Both have been having war games together for some time. Now Russia sees the US in decline and with Chinese dislike for the west equal to their own, they have a partner. This puts two equally powerful nations at our throat. Europe is a non-factor too. Fat with entitlement programs and no money (or will power for that matter) to maintain well equipped or trained armies, they have become a doormat to the west.

The US is (or was) the last obstacle in their way to controlling their part of the hemisphere (or world dominance – who knows?). I think McCain would have slowed them a bit more or even stonewalled them, but the introduction of Obama was a major prize. Since he is inexperienced and the nation has shown it’s unwillingness for a major campaign, I think Russia is on the move to rebuilding it’s former self in a new image. Add to that Chavez and other Latin American nations that have gone socialist or communist, they now have a gateway to America from the south.

Just my black helo theory, but I think it is pretty close…

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–Fred D. Thompson, 2008

Rumors of a "Central Asian Federation"

JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:39PM EST (link)

have been floating around for some time. On the plus side, these nations have rich natural resources, a large potential workforce, a relatively mild climate, and a desire to be taken seriously by the rest of the world. On the minus side, they lack technical know-how, they are geographically isolated, and they have a huge inferiority complex.

In practical terms, the Russians could give them access to technology and money, while providing them with ports and other transportation for goods. The Russians, meanwhile, have to worry about the large Islamic horde at their Southern door, and making those people dependent on them for defense and capital makes political sense, unless they want mullahs in Red Square (I’m guessing they don’t).

This is overly simplistic, but I contribute it to the Black Helo theory :)

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

 
 

Expanding sphere of influence

woodsman (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 2:39PM EST (link)

Russia is apparently promising loans of $2B…

more here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487944,00.html

They sense weakness and I think will move as fast as they think they can to reconstitute the old glory days of Mother Russia.

The $2B loan is interesting.

gekster (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:25PM EST (link)

They are in the same trouble financialy as we claim to be,
and would have to get the money from somewhere.
I wonder if the Ukrain gas cut-off was a part of this?

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If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

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We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
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Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

The $2B might be recovered through

woodsman (Diary) Thursday, February 5th at 1:59PM EST (link)

any number of efforts most likely. I think the Russians would do and try anything to feel good about themselves again.

 
 

Jeez, is that all? Why don't we pop a few more billion in the Pork Bill and buy them off, too?

JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:41PM EST (link)

In for a penny, in for a pound.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson