Rigged House Bill to Make Puerto Rico 51st Welfare State


Posted by Steve (Diary)

Thursday, April 29th at 11:51AM EST

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Code Red………Fix is in. WE must Stop Bambi the Punk From Making

PUERTO RICO the 51st WELFARE STATE….PLEASE READ Rest at http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/rigged-house-bill-to-make-puerto-rico-51st-welfare-state/



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Bunk

Gandalf (Diary) Thursday, April 29th at 12:50PM EST (link)

This whole post is bunk for so many reasons:

1) This vote is to give Peurto Ricans a chance to vote in a non-binding plebiscite, not grant PR Statehood. Congress is not promising to follow Peurto Rico’s results. If Statehood fails to get 50% or more, chances are that they would not be offered Statehood.

2) The likely pleabasite in PR won’t be held until later in the year. The chances of them having the pleabasite, PR certifying the results, PR sending the results to Washington, Washington accepting them, and congress introducing, debating, and passing legislation making PR the 51st State all before November are extremely slim, even with this bill.

3) This isn’t a shock. We’ve been talking about it on RedState and other conservative website for weeks.

4) This article fails to take into account the fact that Puerto Ricans already qualify for all of the welfare programs mentioned, yet they do not pay federal income tax. One of the only drastic changes should PR switch from Commonwealth to State would be citizens would be required to pay federal income tax.

5) It’s true that Puerto Rico may, in fact, elect 6 Democratic Representatives and 2 Democratic Senators. But all 8 of these congressmen would represent a new animal in the Democratic party – Fiercly socially conservative while economically liberal. Should PR continually elect Democrats, it will have a significant impact as the Party is forced to be moderated.

6) There is no guarantee that PR would be a Blue State. The current governor and territorial assembly is overwhelmingly aligned with the Republican Party. It’s true that the one non-voting delegate is Democrat, but he was preceeded by a Republican. The State of Peurto Rico would most likely send at least 2-4 Republicans to the House and quite possibly both Senators.

Christian Conservative First
Patriotic American Second
Dedicated Republican Third

Yes, the order is important.

"fiercely socially conservative"? You mean like the Stupak 12?

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, April 29th at 2:34PM EST (link)

Make no mistake, this vote is part of the “Republicans hate hispanics” meme which is something we should be concerned about.

Puerto Rico would be such a net receiver of tax monies that it would become the most blue state in the union (DC is not a state).

Puerto Rican statehood should be opposed, regardless of whether the vote is “binding” or not.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

No, not like Stupak

Gandalf (Diary) Thursday, April 29th at 7:02PM EST (link)

I mean like someone who honestly believe he will go to Hell if he votes in favor of abortion rights.

PR is a strongly Catholic island, and the Church actually holds sway over it’s members (unlike many of the “Catholics” currently in congress).

I don’t understand what is difficult about this: Peurto Rico is an American Territory! They already receive tax monies. Accepting as a State will cost virtually no more than with it as Commonwealth status. However, as a State, PR residents would have to pay federal income tax.

When was the last time a solidly blue state elected a Republican governor and Republican super-majorities in both houses? PR did so in 2008.

I’m not saying that PR would be a red state, but I think the meme about it being a solid blue state is seriously over-played.

Christian Conservative First
Patriotic American Second
Dedicated Republican Third

Yes, the order is important.

Maybe you are right, but I don't want to find out.

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, April 30th at 7:08AM EST (link)

I might believe that there are some true fiscally liberal/socially liberal politicians in places like Poland, so I maybe you are right about Puerto Rico.

Washington DC changes people, so lets just avoid finding out.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 

Glenn Beck

Return to Revolution (Diary) Friday, April 30th at 7:15AM EST (link)

doesn’t think its a good idea either. Regardless of whether it ends up being the end, it does appear that the New Progressive Party in PR is fully expecting statehood. Their 2008 campaign stated “The New Progressive Party adopts the Tennessee Plan as an additional strategy for the decolonization and the claim for the admission of Puerto Rico as the 51st State of the United States of America.”

Beck is often dramatic and over the top but I don’t trust any of this on the simple basis that Obama doesn’t do anything thats in the interest of the country, only his agenda.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/39780/

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

Reply to Beck

Gandalf (Diary) Friday, April 30th at 12:25PM EST (link)

I don’t listen to Beck since he isn’t available where I live, but I think the following article lays out many of the problems with his discussion of PR Statehood.

http://newledger.com/2010/04/puerto-rico-and-glenn-beck/

Christian Conservative First
Patriotic American Second
Dedicated Republican Third

Yes, the order is important.

Thanks! Great stuff (nt)

Return to Revolution (Diary) Friday, April 30th at 5:35PM EST (link)

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 
 
 
 

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