On Tuesday, Missouri voters went to the polls. Among other things, the voters decided on Proposition C, a statute exempting Missouri from the individual mandate from Obamacare. By an overwhelming percentage, voters rejected Obamacare and passed Prop C (71.1 to 28.9). This ardent rejection of the individual mandate puts Missouri voters on par with then-Candidate Obama who, during the 2008 primary, attacked Sen Hillary Clinton’s health care plan because it contained an individual mandate.
For those of you who don’t remember, here’s video of President Obama sounding much like his opposition just a few short months later.
Gee, if only President Obama would have listened to Candidate Obama he wouldn’t have had to face this type of a rebuke from Missouri voters.
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Steve Maley
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Dan Spencer
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Well I'm not sure Obama wanted the mandate
JamesSmith130 Wednesday, August 4th at 9:11PM EST (link)He agreed to the mandate to buy time from insurance companies.
Heavy-handed regulation esp on preexisting conds+ no mandate=insurance companies going bankrupt=single payer government run health care.
The last is what Obama wants in the long run.
It Doesn't Matter
edintexas Thursday, August 5th at 7:30AM EST (link)I have what I believe is a correction to your equation:
Heavy-handed regulation = insurance companies going bankrupt = single payer government run health care.
No tinkering, no trimming around the edges, the whole thing needs to be repealed and the debate finally started.
I agree on repealing it completely
JamesSmith130 Friday, August 6th at 10:38AM EST (link)What I’m just saying is that repealing or striking down the mandate w/o getting rid of everything else is just going to lead us to socialized medicine a lot quicker.
Freedom of Choice
frankieb (Diary) Wednesday, August 4th at 9:25PM EST (link)I’m one proud Missourian today. The Show Me State showed the loony left what Freedom of Choice really is. It’s not killing babies in utero. It’s choosing whether or not you want health insurance and then picking from a variety of insurance companies for the plan that best suits your needs. Now all you other states need to do your part!
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Are in Skelton's district
rdelbov Wednesday, August 4th at 9:50PM EST (link)Does Hartzler have a chance to beat him?
MO4 has roughly 32K voters in the democrat primary on Tuesday. 88K voted in the GOP primary.
I would be concerned if I was Skelton. I suspect around 240K will vote in November in MO4. I88K is not too far from 120K while 32K is a long way from 120K.
I would be hustling if I was Ike Skelton
Oh, yes. She dang sure does.
itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, August 4th at 10:04PM EST (link)That district is a very red district that Ike has held onto because of inertia more than anything else. He flies below the radar and it’s rural so there’s not a lot of rocking the boat. He typically doesn’t even have a challenger. But the radar this year is *much* more sensitive than before.
He voted for Nancy Pelosi for speaker. He may as well have cast a vote to have the devil as honorary Fair Queen over the Sedalia fair.
This year, the MO GOP is targeting the race, and Vicky Hartzler is an *excellent* candidate. She’s sensible, conservative, and long term farming in a sensible, conservative, long term farming district. She’s one of them and they know it.
She’ll beat him like a red headed step child. But I’m not getting cocky, I’ll be doing all I can.
I actually live in Dist 7, buy mine’s a 100% lock and I’m only about 30 miles from Dist 4 and have lots of contacts there. I’ve already been on email with some of them. $ and time will follow.
You guys do the same. Help when you can, even if it’s just slamming Ike Skelton as a Nancy’s boy every chance you get.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
How red is it, did you say?
itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, August 4th at 10:07PM EST (link)2004: Bush/Kerry 64/35
2008: McCain/Obambi 61/38
Stick a fork in Skelton. He’s done.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Love your tag line.
NoDoze Wednesday, August 4th at 10:46PM EST (link)We all make typos, but it is so frustrating when I try to read what I suspect is a good post, and it is so riddled with misspelled words, malapropisms, and mangled punctuation that I can’t figure out what it says.
Vicky can win.
alwaysfiredup Thursday, August 5th at 5:53PM EST (link)Not only is the district a rather crimson shade of red, but Vicky has also been conducting a very grassroots campaign to date by personally criscrossing the 26 counties in the district for 13 months, holding up to 5 events in a single day. Everyone has seen her. She was born on a farm in the district, went to college in the district, and lives and farms in the district still. Everyone in the Fourth District knows Vicky is one of them.
Now Vicky wasn’t the only hometown gal/guy in the primary, so the votes split mostly along geographic lines – people voted for their hometown candidate if they had one. Vicky got the lion’s share of votes from people who didn’t already have a relationship with one of the candidates. I think that speaks very well for her.
Ike’s health is really declining. He’s having trouble just holding a microphone, standing up and sitting down. Vicky will look like vigor personified next to him. And considering it’s kind of a sleepy rural district, you wouldn’t believe how up-in-arms people are there about health care, cap-and-trade, illegal immigration, etc. It sure suprised me. I will be shocked if Vicky doesn’t win.
And you have every reason to be proud
cactusjack Wednesday, August 4th at 10:17PM EST (link)that is one stunner to the 0. How can he & the MSM explain this one away that an entire State, big as New England, – with two huge metroplises, highways, schools and SteakNShakes, no less, is suddenly gone madly & completely racist? Calling Arianna Huffington and the mass hysteria shrinks…
They won't bother to "explain it away", they
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Thursday, August 5th at 6:52AM EST (link)will just ignore it. Just like they do with all the other “news” they disagree with. They have done it for years now. That is one of the reasons they are rapidly becoming irrelevant in today’s America. Their readers/viewers are limited to the hard core Left who care, those who cannot afford cable, and those whose remote batteries have given up the ghost.
I expect they will have their usual
oxowhitney Thursday, August 5th at 5:35PM EST (link)crybaby reply – racist, homophobic, cruel, unsympathetic Republicans don’t want the poor people to have health care.
Ignore their stupid rhetoric and focus on doing what we know to be the right thing. Way to go, Missoura! (phonetic native Missourian spelling)
The individual mandate
georgeinla (Diary) Wednesday, August 4th at 9:49PM EST (link)should be placed on the ballot in every state. It’s the achilles heel of Obamacare — Obamacare doesn’t work without it, and it’s the most unpopular, and potentially unconstitutional part of it.
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Well
JamesSmith130 Friday, August 6th at 10:42AM EST (link)I’d argue Obamacare works quite well w/o the mandate in the long run given what the plan is. Take the mandate away and the insurance companies are forced to implement the heavy handed regulations w/o getting additional revenue from forcing everyone to have insurance. This will force insurance companies to go bankrupt and force people onto government plans, which will eventually force single payer socialized medicine. Which is exactly the eventual goal of Obamacare.
Getting rid of the mandate by itself is not good enough. Using opposition to the mandate, to repeal the entire bill, is smart politics.
And you can be sure one judge will soon
kenjames Wednesday, August 4th at 10:08PM EST (link)declare it unconstitutional
Which,
NoDoze Wednesday, August 4th at 10:51PM EST (link)Proposition C, or the insurance mandate in Obamacare?
not in this particular instance
MF (Diary) Thursday, August 5th at 12:40PM EST (link)Only because the prop was non-binding. It was just a sense of what the voters want, but it didn’t change any laws or anything like that. Nothing to declare consititutional or not.
But you can guarantee that any state that put anything on the ballot that attempted to nullify any part of O’care would be stricken down by a judge. You can bet that the Justice Department would examine every single one, not only for its wording but also for the district and appeals circuit in which it fell, to pick the single most liberal combination.
That’s why the liberals love Prop 8 in CA so much (in a sense). They got a gay judge for the District court to strike it down, and then the appeal goes to the 9th Circuit, which is by far the most liberal and the most reversed of all Circuits. You can guarantee the 9th will agree with Walker and state that Prop 8 is unconstitutional. Then they just hope the SCOTUS will wimp out and decide not to take the case, because then that means the ruling stands. And if the ruling stands, then it becomes a basis for all other rulings, and every single state’s ban will be overturned. What’s happening in today’s world is truly appalling.
Making it legal
oxowhitney Thursday, August 5th at 5:37PM EST (link)will NEVER make it right.
Why,
kenjames Thursday, August 5th at 8:11AM EST (link)Proposition C, of course.
Where is Integrity
freedomfiter Thursday, August 5th at 1:23PM EST (link)To put a spin on Benjamin Desreali: There are lies, damned lies, and Politicians!
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