Like many other Palin supporters I was greatly disappointed by the e-mail I received from the Guv telling me that she was not running. Unlike other Palin supporters, I take her at her word. To paraphrase her, why would I trust her to be the POTUS and not trust her to make the decision not to run? For the record, I truly believe that she was seriously preparing for a run, but like any other confrontation or battle that requires preparation (including even D Day) you have to be able and willing to pull the plug if the conditions are not right. I believe that she determined late in September that the conditions were not right and withdrew her name. I trust her decision.
Some of her supporters have said there is no candidate who deserves her support. I will not comment on that. Politics is the art of the possible. There is a list of people who ARE running and I am not going to sit this one out. That’s my decision. Having said that, I have revisited my aversion to Mitt Romney. It is not an emotional decision. It is a decision based on experience. While I campaigned for, voted for and contributed to both Bush II campaigns, one of the sad lessons I learned is that when a President who is an (R) embraces big government and tries to buy votes with programs like Medicare Part D, those programs become permanently entrenched and almost irreversible. Looking at Mitt Romney through that lense I am no longer sure that his presidency would be an improvement over a continued Obama presidency. My two biggest concerns when it comes to Romeny are Cap and Trade and Universal Health Care. Based on his record, a Romney presidency would enthrone those two programs in our national polity for many, many years until the whole financial structure comes tumbling down. Romeny endorsed and implemented both while he was governor of Massachusetts. He has said nothing to persuade me that he would not “grow in office” and endorse them again if he were to take the White House.
Both programs are an abomination. Both will be used to stifle free enterprise and enrich the friends of the permanent political class. Solyndra on steriods my friends.
Romney has already demonstrated his inability to resist the blandishments of the establishment press. Anyone who is willing to spend a couple of hours reading at sites like Climate Depot, or Junk Science and to follow the links from there to other articles should be aware that a) there is no real consensus on climate change and b) that real science is not made by consensus anyway. Any candidate who has not taken the time to inform himself or herself about these issues does not deserve my support or my vote.
I fear that Mitt Romney is like what Richard Feinman referred to as the Cargo Cult scientists . He falls for anybody wearing a white coat and glasses with a Ph. D. from Harvard. He even listed John Holdren as one of his advisors.
On the issue of Universal Health Care, any candidate who does not see how destructive this socialization of health care will be, again, does not deserve my support. In Romney’s case, I fear that Obamacare will become permanently enshrined. Oh there will be a few tweaks and pretenses at change. But this is a man who thought it was a dandy idea when he implemented it in Massachusetts.
So the question is which Not Mitt Romney do I vote for and work for. While some on this website think that Rick Perry will be more conservative than Romney, I am not so sure. What was devastating about the Gardasil decision was the ease with which he was willing to impose a medical mandate on people. Yes he backed off. But it makes me really uneasy about his instincts.
True conservatives understand about personal liberty. While, unlike libertarians, they may be willing to infringe on that liberty more often than libertarians would to protect the social order, they at least are queasy about it. They understand that the question isn’t , would that be good for people, but is should people be allowed to make that decision for themselves. And, if you are a conservative, you put the burden of proof on the person who argues that people should not be allowed to make that decision for themselves. Further, the only arguments you will entertain are those that pertain to how individual decisions affect other people or the common good. If you apply that reasoning to the Gardasil decision you realize that the disease that is being spread ( a virus) is not one that is easily spread from person to person like tuberculosis or measles or mumps. It’s reasonable to ask parents to vaccinate when one kid just sitting in a class room and breathing can infect the whole classroom. It’s not so reasonable when the disease can only be spread through sexual contact.
What bothers me is that an elected Perry may not be so responsive when he is sitting in a Washington as when he was sitting as Governor in Texas.
So that leaves me with a host of others. I didn’t become a Cain supporter until a) Governor Palin withdrew her name for consideration and b) Herman Cain started running ahead of Rick Perry in the polls. Which two events happened almost simultaneously.
I like that Herman Cain is willing to talk about completely abolishing the old tax code and starting over. I don’t think his 9:9:9 plan is perfect but it tells me that his instincts are right. He is the only candidate who seems to understand that FICA is actually a tax.
I am concerned about his lack of government experience, but there are no perfect candidates. I am not happy with the government experience of any of the candidates who have it. Michelle Bachmann talks a good game but cannot point to any significant bills that she has introduced. If you’re in the minority you can’t get the bills passed, but at least you can introduce them. On Newt Gingrich, he has a wealth of experience but his personal life makes me think he cannot win. And if demonization by the left disqualifies a candidate ( as many have argued demonization disqualified Palin) Gingrich has that problem in spades.
That leaves me back again with Herman Cain. He gives a good speech. He learned something in private business and sitting on the Federal Reserve. He is humble enough to admit he doesn’t know everything and seems willing to learn. He was not my favorite a month ago, but he looks like he could win. I understand about his lack of organization. I understand about his lack of money. Both of which facts make his rise in the polls all the more remarkable.
So, absent the earthquake Sarah Palin said it would take to bring her back into the race, I am supporting Herman Cain. Not that my support means much. I am neither rich nor powerful nor very popular. But most of his supporters aren’t. My 2¢ worth.
Moe Lane
PG DeFreese
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
Dan Spencer
Maybe Cain can get Sarah Palin to be his Sec. of State?
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 7:47PM EST (link)Or maybe he should go back to selling pizza.
This is Herman Cain’s Foreign Policy!
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
So What , Exactly are Romney's Foreign Policy Credentials?
sdsali (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 8:26PM EST (link)A good executive hires people who have the expertise he lacks. John Bolton as secretary of state would be impressive. Who is Mitt going to give us? According to one commentator, leftist elites, http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9306-romneys-advisors-are-leftist-elites for the most part. One name clearly missing from his list is Robert Bolton. Sorry. Your argument seems to be better to keep taking the medicine that you know is killing you than to try something new. Electing Romney is electing Obama with an R after his name. I am really not interested in someone who is selling a better, more efficient socialism. And that is what Romney is selling. He will give it a cheerier face, but it will be socialism and appeasement just the same. BEcause that is who he is. He has proved it over and over. On the foreign policy front it will still be more of the same. I’m sure Herman Cain can accomplish that without lifting a finger. The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Jon Huntsman and we know what his positions are. Sorry. Better to have someone with no experience and hope for the best than someone who promises to drive the car off the cliff more slowly and carefully.
Romney?
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 9:03PM EST (link)Who said I was for Obama-Lite?
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
State governors work with foreign governments all the time.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:45PM EST (link)For just one random example: extradition of state prisoners.
Cain still too short on substance
cajungirl2012 Sunday, October 16th at 8:16PM EST (link)999 and “I will consult my advisors” is getting old. He is a charming man, but seriously lacks gravitas or any serious plans.
I know high school students who are more qualified
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:45PM EST (link)n/t
I have a hard time getting past 3 main issues with Cain
Darin_H (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 8:35PM EST (link)1 – the new sales tax, I really don’t like the idea of offering up a new tax for Congress to tinker with and without an Amendment, we can’t bind new congresses (and president) to a 2/3rds requirement.
b – He still thinks TARP was a good idea, just poorly implemented. TARP is bad enough an issue on its own, but coupled with the “we can just do it better” really turns me off.
III – He thinks Alan “Bubble” Greenspan was a good Fed Reserve Chairman, I think it’s pretty clear that he wasn’t.
I’d still support him in the general (obviously), but I’m not leaning his way in the primary now.
A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
Agreed
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:50PM EST (link)Even so-called “smart” people fell for TARP because they didn’t understand it. Too big to fail is too big to exist, and the market was about to end that forever. TARP was a way to keep the old crony capitalism going, sold to government by so-called “experts” i.e. the people who stood the most to lose in the free-market correction.
Cain doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of defending himself against such a trillion-dollar intellectual assault. He will be played like a fiddle by the entire world.
NO IDIOTS FOR PRESIDENT. PERIOD. Whose butt do I have to pinch to make you Cainites see that?!?!
I guess it only took a couple of five figure "go away" settlements to play the right like a fiddle
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 5:55PM EST (link)Hope you’re ready for the next one.
You’re running out of candidates.
We needed fewer candidates
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:59PM EST (link)or else Romney wins, and conservatives lose.
Honestly, at this point I’m more concerned that Cain may not be able to point to Asia on a map. You need to have a deep understanding of the world if you are to lead its greatest nation.
Can't wait until someone rubs Perry's nose in something he doesn't know about in the world
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:04PM EST (link)Or we getting close to the wagon circling mode on this one?
Circling the wagons "ain't" an option, usdebate! Sorry. The
pttx333 (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:12PM EST (link)big difference with Perry that sets him apart is the fact that nobody will ever be able to rub his nose in anything BECAUSE he will just stand there and say he doesn’t know but will find out.
Calling that a "big" difference is perhaps the wagon circling to which I'm referring
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:20PM EST (link)n/t
Disagree
gator_hoo (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:29PM EST (link)Even if Perry were to do that, it shows he at least cares what the answer is. That is why I am a bit surprised that Cain’s Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan comment didn’t get more attention. It showed that he is not only ignorant of policy, but that he is perfectly okay with being ignorant on foreign policy. The first can be forgiven to some degree, the second cannot.
Did I call this one? Yes I did.
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 11:22PM EST (link)You have to resist the urge to declare every gaffe a dealbreaker. None of these debates are sudden death overtime.
Unless you are going to tell me that a governor of an oil state can’t remember who the Department of Energy is constitutes a dealbreaker. I don’t believe it does, for what it’s worth.
I think either Cain or Perry would make a fine President and either would be game changers for this country.
So let’s can the holier-than-thou crap about Uzbekistan.
Not so much, usedebate. You don't know me, so how could
pttx333 (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:35PM EST (link)you possibly know that I would have said that 3 months ago, 3 years ago, 30 years ago – doesn’t matter. I speak what I believe, so if that is wrong, so be it, but I won’t apologize for it. I don’t circle wagons, just speak the truth as I know it and let it fall where it may. Sorry to disappoint.
kowalski to usedebate: Forgot to say that since I'm from Texas,
pttx333 (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:39PM EST (link)and we do and say things on a grander/bigger scale (or so the myth goes), then there ya go with the “big” reference. Not one minute’s difference between that and anything else I might say.
pttx, a heads up.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:45PM EST (link)usadebateboard is running around posting like a…er.. let’s just say the rear of a donkey.
All he wants to do is get a rise out of other posters.
He has a history of doing just that.
He is best to be ignored.
I trust you are doing fine, as am I.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Heads up so noted, gek! Thanks for it. Yeppers,
pttx333 (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:52PM EST (link)fit as a fiddle today and rarin’ to go. Good to see you’re up and at ‘em, too, gek. Gonna be another fun day in the salt mines – have noticed a lot more of persistent troll types flitting around here the past few days. A little desperation there, do ya reckon?
Later, my friend …
Actually, *only* Romney *could* pass your acid test
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:12PM EST (link)only because he has machine coaching to stay away from anyone who will ask him a question he can’t or won’t answer.
Is this what you meant?
If you think Alan Greenspan
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:10PM EST (link)If you think Alan Greenspan caused the housing bubble and then let it pop on purpose it’s very difficult for me to agree with you.
What caused the housing bubble was a relaxation of lending by major financial institutions like Fannie and Freddie and more importantly the general loss of sanity that came when banks started encouraging people do to things like take out second mortgage loans to fund vacations and buy extra cars.
Banks and lending institutions and mortgage brokers and real estate agents all contributed to the climate that caused the real estate debacle. If you want to look for scapegoats, there aren’t any convenient ones around.
I lived in Chicago and sold my only piece of property when the bubble was reaching almost its most grotesquely maximal dimensions and I was scared to death to get out of the market. My piece of property had increased in value by almost 100% in just three years – absolutely crazy! And people were trying to push that to 150% when I sold it.
It was a 1,000 square foot basement/garden condominium in a gut-rehab building and what everyone was conspiring to do in the real estate market was so intensely nuts you could *feel* the impending catastrophe.
Alan Greenspan couldn’t have done anything to stop that that would have been effective. Everyone would have told him to go back to his office and noodle away while they kept on making money. He would have been dragged through a pile of broken glass naked if he’d tried to stop it, such was the heedlessness of it.
You had people throwing opening parties that cost $5,000, $10,000 dollars and more with open bars, full bands playing, escorts and hookers, all the champagne you could drink, and they were selling properties to people who had just graduated from College and couldn’t HOPE to pay their mortgages back if *anything* went wrong. And everyone held hands and sunk the country – Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Leftist, Commie, John Birch Society types, everyone.
It was INSANITY. It was truly a “mass hallucination.” Then everyone got clobbered and all of the Monday Morning Moralists started preaching about how it shouldn’t have ever been allowed to happen.
But it was *everyone* who contributed to the climate of craziness. You can’t blame that on any single individual. If Greenspan (or anyone else) had tried seriously to stop it he would have been defenestrated.
I’m so sick and tired of hearing from the history revisionists who weren’t there watching all these ordinary people do exactly what they wanted to do and quite willfully and for reasons they thought were perfectly fine come back around and try to blame a single individual who “might have stopped it all.”
He might as well have been trying to stop the drunks from getting to the open bar at an Irish/Italian (or throw in your favorite ethnic stereotype here) wedding. It wasn’t going to happen. People had to make the mistake, and they weren’t going to be deterred from making the mistake. You’d have been killed trying to STOP them from making the mistake.
Ever tried to break up a fistfight at a roadhouse bar? The first guy who tries to break up the fight gets hit first.
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There's a very long trail of documentary evidence
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:27PM EST (link)Just in the history of the advertising alone, there’s a very long and explicit trail of evidence demonstrating the Decline and Fall of Lending Standards and how they were “framed” by the institutions offering them.
40-50 years before the Housing Debacle, taking a “second mortgage” on one’s home was considered to be a desparate, last-resort and dangerously risky thing to do for any reason other than immediate emergencies.
Over time though, as housing prices continued to increase and everyone became conditioned to believe that would inexorably continue, the concept of taking out a “second mortgage” became gradually redefined into a “home equity loan.” And then the terms became easier. And the ways banks marketed them became more enticing.
Buy a new car! Live Richly! Tap that equity in your home even if you haven’t paid the mortgage! Get yourself that new deck on the back of your house! Go to Hawaii this year, and spend TWO weeks instead of just 5 days. Get your kid the braces they’ve always wanted. Don’t *earn* the money and save it – just tap into that second mor— uh, we mean, Home Equity Loan. You’ll be so happy, and our professional bankers can help you tomorrow with all the details.
You might not like the New York Times, but they did a great job with this article. One of the few keepers over the years from them, and essential to understanding the larger picture.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/07/20/business/20debt-trap.html#
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Document Found That Touched Off the Mortgage Meltdown
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:29PM EST (link)Document Found That Touched Off the Mortgage Meltdown
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Ah, yes. Director Blue.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:34PM EST (link)Hadn’t read his stuff in a while. Thanks for the reminder!
(and I seem to recall some discussion, when the meltdown started, blaming it on the Clintonistas .. but this is definitely *the* ignition point)
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
5^5 Thank you for that page too. (nt)
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:37PM EST (link).
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Here's a calculator for 9-9-9
windwaker24 Sunday, October 16th at 9:21PM EST (link)http://www.nerds4cain.com/Blog/archives/723
It’s worth a try. I lose BIG time. My new tax liability would be $5,500, not counting my state’s tax liability! I’m at $3,000 now. YIKES!
Oops!
windwaker24 Sunday, October 16th at 9:23PM EST (link)I meant this post to be a reply to Darin_H.
My issues with Cain
Xasteius (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 9:33PM EST (link)1) He pulled the race card on another conservative. A big no-no, especially considering Cain is an associate minister of a Baptist church.
2) What is his foreign policy? With Iran and Turkey on the prowl and in collusion with other 2-bit dictators (e.g Venezuela), there is no time for OTJ training. I guess I’ll find out Tues.
3) He has a bad habit of mouthing off (see 1 for example). Verbal impulsiveness might suitable to a talk-host, but not for the POTUS.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
sdsali, find comfort here
tngal (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 10:44PM EST (link)Have you noticed some previous posters are attempting to turn you away from your decision by pointing out how their candidate differs from your latest choice.
As a disclaimer, at the present time, I’m on with Cain, so naturally I would applaud your reasoning. Suffice to say, you came to your decision for your own reasons.
I don’t base my support on 999. I may go up a little or maybe down a little when it comes to the tax thing, but overall I believe its much , much, much, more fair than what we have now. ( yes people getting paid under the table will have to pay taxes, duh)
If Mr. Cain makes it to the WH, the Congress and the Senate will run 999 through the gristmill so much, it won’t even resemble its current form… ( but don’t tell these others that, they have not caught on and its not your job to teach them.) Additionally, being PC is not high on either Palin’s or Cain’s lists. They talk realistically and unabashadly. They don’t care if they step on a toe or two.
You are one person, one vote. Enjoy your candidate and find solace until such time as something so unexpected happens to make you change your mind. Gird your loins and watch your back. (I know it’s tough, protecting the front and the rear, use a pot holder or something, just improvise. These perry supporters are tricky.)
Don't waste your time...
traversecityconservative (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 11:30PM EST (link)Sdsall, you will find this site to be full of ridicule for both Palin and Cain. Many of them do not like the fact that Herman and Sarah are more like us (“regular folk”) and thus they find it embarrassing to support them in public. As much as Conservatives whine about their politicians being Rinos and not standing for anything, they will still support weak candidates like Perry and Romney because they look or act presidential. You will find about as much support for your opinion here as you would on HuffPo.
Thought you were leaving the site?
powertothepeople (Diary) Sunday, October 16th at 11:38PM EST (link)Guess you really need the attention in your life………………..pathetic.
Palin is WAY smarter than Cain.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:54PM EST (link)With Cain, I keep wondering why – if his experts are so great – we don’t elect the best of them for President instead?
Again, it doesn't matter.
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 5:57PM EST (link)All it took was a couple of bimbo eruptions to to send Cain where Palin went to.
You have to ask yourself betweenCain and Palin,
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:03PM EST (link)which one would you rather be marooned on an island with?
Answer, Palin. She can hunt, fish and cook.
Cain would just keep trying to order pizza and get his hand up your palm frond.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
There is no comparison between Palin and Cain
explodinghead (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:14PM EST (link)Palin was a Governor of a huge state and had a lot more experience. Also, Sarah Palin never threw any other Conservative under the bus,. She said she would vote for the GOP nominee, not so Mr. Cain, who actually said he might vote for Obama in 2008, if he thought Obama would cross the aisle. I don’t understand how sdsali could possibly think Cain is a replacement for Palin.
Palin is not confused about her stance on abortion, or the 2nd amendment, etc.
True, but they both got railroaded by rather handily by similar smear machines
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:17PM EST (link)And, in doing so, showed the opposition the way to a very big button to push.
Palin the Saint versus Cain the Philanderer
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:49PM EST (link)I’m still gonna have to distinguish the two cases, sorry.
No reasonable person on the left or right actually believes any of the lies about Sarah other than the one about her being dumb.
By contrast, it’s pretty obvious that Cain has a problem, from sheer numbers alone, not to mention some specifics he doesn’t contest about one of the accusations concerning his corporate apartment and a female employee he invited there one night after drinks.
However, you make a very interesting point – too interesting for there to be nothing to it. Thanks for making me think.
Sure there's a comparison, explodinghead.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:37PM EST (link)Neither Palin nor Cain is Mitt Romney.
Further, neither Cain nor Palin is Obama.
To this cat, that’s one heck of a good starting point.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
Man, false equivocation big time
gator_hoo (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 6:36PM EST (link)I liked Sarah Palin a lot. Sarah Palin actually had a record of getting things accomplished. Sarah Palin also was good at articulating conservative values, even if she stumbled in some other areas. I despise what the media did to her while they were giving the Dems every possible pass.
Cain, not only can’t articulate conservative arguments, he is actually good at making statements against conservative positions. He has said that abortion should be the choice of the family, states should be able to regulate guns, and that he would definitely negotiate with terrorists. He also doesn’t have a record.
But yeah, just say that we don’t like “regular folk” like the son of cotton farmers who went to a state school.
I like Palin, too
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:40PM EST (link)Which is why you should despise what the media is doing to Cain.
I'm not sure what they are "doing" to Herman Cain
gator_hoo (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 7:12PM EST (link)Frankly, I don’t know if the allegations are true or not. The original story (involving the settlements) has been confirmed by this point. There are several ways Cain could have put this to bed:
1) Deny the settlements (now we know that wasn’t an option)
2) Acknowledge the settlements, say “they were not an admission of guilt, it was just easier to pay to make the problem go away. Everyone involved felt that this was the best way to handle the situation, including the complainant, and she hasn’t come forward.” I think he probably gets off after that, especially with the women being unwilling to come forward. That certainly would have been okay with me at the least.
3) Once the accuastions came out to the public, ask the restaurant for the results of the investigation that he says cleared him. He hasn’t done that.
Instead, he has offered different answer after different answer, not all of which can be explained away by later recollection. (I.E. if he talked to the lawyer about the amount of the settlement, then why did he say it was only a few months pay?)
Sorry, I don’t have this hard and fast belief that he is innocent, so I don’t know that the media is “doing” anything to him. Does that mean I think he’s guilty? I don’t know, but it is certainly plausible. The sad thing is that the thing that most lends credibility to the story is Herman Cain himself. The story I initially dismissed, his being unable to dismiss those charges even halfway convincingly gave it legs (and even if he didn’t have ten days, which he even says he did, choice two or three should have been able to come out in 24 hours tops) whether that is because he guilty and had not better options or whether he and his staff are simply that incompetent, I don’t know, and I don’t know if it matters to anyone except his wife, because whether it is a character flaw or a competency flaw, it is not what I am looking for in a president. Sorry.
I do, however, truly feel bad for him on a personal level if all of this is made up.
Humbleness is a virtue
paco12348 Monday, October 17th at 7:16AM EST (link)How many Presidents have been humble? How many have been arrogant?
Which ones did the best for the country? Questions that need answering don’t you think?
How many Presidents were well versed in Foreign Police, the Economy and all other aspects of the government?
A humble man says what I don’t know I’ll learn and I’ll surround myself with those that do know.
An arrogant man say I already know and I don’t need help.
How many times has Obama consulted with his Cabinet? Cabinet? Cabinet? Is there a cabinet? Duh! How many times does he consult with the other 2 branches of government? Other branches? Duh!
Cain may not have the hands on experience in all areas but he has proven his ability in the economic areas and he’s humble enough and bright enough to understand you must consult with experts and you must work with the other branches of government if you want to run the country effectively.
I’m afraid Obama and Mrs. Obama do not understand the difference between Kings and President, or Dictators and Presidents.
Mr. Cain does understand the difference and he will work his full 4 years. He’s not running to be elected so he can play golf, be entertained or run around the countryside dividing the country. Cain will work full time, not play.
Does Cain have 2nd amendment problem?
explodinghead (Diary) Monday, October 17th at 11:55AM EST (link)I listened to the Mark Davis show this morning. He played a clip of Cain in May of this year on wolf blitzers show, where Cain when asked about the second amendment said that the second amendment was a states issue. Cain initally said that he was supprotive of the second amendment, but when asked further of states could make their own rules on gin control, he said it was a states right issue.”
Cain needs to stop with the states rights on gun control. The right to bear arms is enumerated clearly in the Constitution, as mark davis stated, it is not like gay marriage or abortion, which are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution and therefore are left to the states to decide on. If Cain stated his position correctly, that would mean if a state wanted to, they could entirely limit the possession of arms. If he did not mean this, he really needs to clarify this statement NOW not later.
Already asked and answered, exploding heads.
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Monday, October 17th at 12:16PM EST (link)here, but I’m happy to repeat it for you and save you the trouble of clicking to the link.
On April 28, 2011 in Rochester New Hamshire, Herman Cain spoke at a campaign event and discussed his views on the second amendment. When asked, he stated that concealed carry laws should be dealt with at the state level. Video of that speech is here.
On May 1, 2011 Herman Cain spoke at the NRA American Values Leadership Conference. He stated during the speech that the second amendment was one of the things that the founding fathers got right and that it should not be infringed upon in any way. Video that that speech is here.
You can’t get much stronger than that on the 2nd Amendment.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
Thanks for the info RWmom52
explodinghead (Diary) Monday, October 17th at 12:20PM EST (link)I am not always able to check RS as I have crazy working hours, but this was the first time i had heard this charge brought up against Cain. I am glad to hear he is sold on 2nd amendment, as that would be a complete non-starter for me.
One of Three,
bgintn Tuesday, October 18th at 9:46AM EST (link)He is also one of three that has signed the NAGR 2nd Amendment pledge. Paul and Bachmann the other two.
Correct on Romney, Perry almost as bad. You forgot
samfox Wednesday, November 9th at 4:41PM EST (link)a few things about Herman. I was once a fan of Herman’s. Then I did what all to many seem to forget: do. I did more research than just taking a candidate’s word from the ‘debates’.
I looked around on Herman & found out he said “90% of the ‘Patriot’ Act is right on!”. This is the same PA the Bachmann voted to extend.
Not good for Herman or Michael!! Plus Michael took govt $ while talking against it.
More at this link on why Cain is not what he seems to be.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=137835
We need to decide how Mr. Cain got to be a ‘Fed’ bank vice prez & prez without being a committed ‘Fed’ insider. I have a tough time believing those who control the ‘Fed’ would elevate a true US conservative patriot to such high levels of authority. To me there is a stinky fish around that issue.
SamFox
The RS braintrust got rolled on Palin and now they are getting rolled on Cain
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 5:26PM EST (link)Helping shove the most transformational GOP candidates over a cliff, the ones who would really take it to Obama. Gone.
Who’s next?
Who will you be left with?
Palin was never a Presidential candidate.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:36PM EST (link)Your comment makes no sense.
I did not get rolled on Palin.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, November 9th at 5:53PM EST (link)But thanks for the acknowledgement of my contributions here.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Doesn't matter.
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 5:45PM EST (link)The template for making the conservative tastemakers head for the tall grass is cast.
It will work for womever is surging at any particular time.
If and when Perry surges, hope you do better next time.
It just gets easier and easier for to take them down the more they do it, doesn't it
usdebateboard Wednesday, November 9th at 6:34PM EST (link)And you all comply so willingly.