I haven’t heard much discussion amongst conservatives about what must be done to deal with the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens that are already here. I personally believe that a physical fence can, and should be built, wherever practical, along our southern border. I also recognize that there are some places where it probably doesn’t make sense due to eminent domain issues, cost vs. benefit, etc. In those areas, a well monitored “virtual” fence, combined with “boots on the ground” should do the job effectively.
Once a “fence” is in place however, we still have to address what must be done with the vast numbers of illegal immigrants currently living in our country. Recent attacks on Rick Perry regarding the Texas policy of providing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants provide a glimpse of the passion that surrounds this subject.
Most of what I hear coming from conservatives sounds something like: “build the fence first, and then we’ll have a discussion about what to do with the people that are already here”. And while our country faces issues that most would consider to be more critical at the moment (jobs, the economy, the debt and deficit), illegal immigration has a very real impact on each of these issues. It also clearly impacts national security.
At the risk of sounding like someone who supports “comprehensive immigration reform” (gasp), I believe that we might “matriculate that ball” a little further down the field if we began to float rational, realistic ideas about what to do after we build a “fence”. We might also create additional support and momentum for actually building the “fence”.
Personally, I don’t believe it is realistic to just say we’re going to deport them. It simply isn’t feasible. There are just too many people. There are also some very real family separation issues. And are we really going to send government agents to homes and business to demand papers, round up 12 million people, and put them on a buses?
Before anyone throws rocks in my direction, let me state that I am NOT in favor of amnesty (as defined by some small fine or penalty, and a fast track to citizenship). It is unfair to those that followed the rules, paid their dues, and came here legally. We tried it once, and it didn’t work. And it is just plain wrong.
I believe that there is a much more effective set of solutions, though some will be challenging to enact, depending upon the makeup of the House and Senate.
Here are my thoughts on a set of solutions to the problem:
1. Allow all local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies to verify citizenship when making arrests for criminal offenses. Further require all law enforcement agencies share databases and to check the arrest and conviction histories of all illegal aliens arrested for criminal offenses.
2. Outlaw sanctuary cities/states. (I realize that #’s 1 and 2 come with some constitutional issues, however I believe that they could be resolved and that states could be enticed to cooperate.)
3. Deport all illegal aliens who have committed felonies
4. Deport all illegal aliens who commit multiple DUIs, and/or who commit vehicular homicide
5. Deport all illegal aliens with multiple drug use convictions and/or drug trafficking convictions
6. Deport anyone who has over-stayed their Visa, after a 60-day amnesty period
7. Require proof of citizenship for all entitlement programs (much easier said, than done, however I believe that the vast majority of Americans would support it)
8. Improve E-verify, and then require its use by all businesses
9. Overhaul and streamline the country’s Visa program. It must include a requirement to “check in” with local law enforcement on a regular basis.
10. Create a reasonable, workable, verifiable, time-limited guest worker program. It also must include a requirement to “check in” with local law enforcement on a regular basis.
I believe that this combination of policies would entice 90+% of the illegal aliens currently here, to either a) get in the proper line for citizenship, a Visa, or a Guest Worker permit, or b) leave of their own accord.
Anybody else got any ideas?
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I believe most all of your ideas
Scope (Diary) Friday, September 30th at 2:23PM EST (link)are already a part of the immigration laws already on the books, which the federal government refuses to enforce, the Obama admin. being the worst.
The question of what to do with the millions of illegals already here is one that has not had a a rational or reasonable solution found by anyone yet. From most polling, many want the border secure, support the AZ immigration law now dying in court proceedings, but are against trying to round every illegal up and sending them back to their country which currently is in the middle of a civil war.
This is exactly what Perry has been trying to say, but has been shouted down by the Romney campaign trying to turn the ugliness of the situation into a campaign win for Romney. From Romney’s immigration record as Governor, he will only make the situation worse, and keep the hispanics in the Democrat camp for ever.
Did you see Romneys effort to lose the election against Obama?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, September 30th at 2:29PM EST (link)The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Romney is not the only one...
windwaker24 Friday, September 30th at 7:27PM EST (link)Bachmann is at it too! It annoys the crap out of me because it’s not the job of a State governor to secure the border, it’s the Federal Govt., you know, the body SHE IS A PART OF!!!!! So if she was serious about immigration, instead just flapping her gums, she would just introduce a bill or something and try to get others on board, show some “LEADERSHIP”. Ever since Perry got in the race, she has shown anything but leadership. I don’t know what her problem is, but she looks more and more unpresidental every time she opens her mouth!
Well if we actually enforced all the laws
Russ Martin (Diary) Friday, September 30th at 3:10PM EST (link)currently on the books, we would have no reason to continue to pay people to enact new ones.
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” George Washington
Didn't the Secure Fence Act of 2006
bonnman Friday, September 30th at 2:57PM EST (link)already establish that a fence is to be built? What happened with that?
The fact is
Darin_H (Diary) Friday, September 30th at 3:17PM EST (link)our federal government has already granted defacto amnesty to those here already (sans felons and what you describe above). Closing the borders is imperative before anything else is done. Fencing the whole border doesn’t make sense – rivers and lakes? fenced on our side? in the middle? A lot of fencing is required, but not the entire border. Manpower, air assets will work better in the non-urban areas. The issue here would be an administration coming in and drawing down those assets, though we could mitigate that some with other, harsher penalties once they’ve entered the US.
I’m firmly in the “nothing done about those here until the border is shut,” but once that happens I am open to some sort of solution that many will call “amnesty.”
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Most Are Ignorant About Illegal Immigration...
tommyfrisco Friday, September 30th at 8:32PM EST (link)1. Texas and Mexico are separated by the Rio Grande river. Where are you going to build a fence? Will Mexico allow it on their side of the river? If you are a Texas landowner along the Rio Grande, would you want the government to build a fence that blocks off access to the river for your cattle and irrigation needs? Should it be built in the middle of the river?
2. Only a very small percentage of illegals from Mexico actually cross the river to enter the U.S.. About 40% go through the border crossings or fly into the U.S. using a passport and/or Visa and overstay their alloted time. Another 50% go through the border crossings using a Border Crossing Card. Those cards, many of which are fraudulent, have been allowed since the Immigration Act of 1996 was passed. Again, they overstay their welcome.
3. Very few of the illegals would have to be deported if the federal government would simply enforce their immigration laws. If they could not work and if they could not get benefits, most would return to Mexico. The ones that don’t could be encouraged to return to Mexico in order to be next in line for legal immigration.
4. Many illegal immigramts from Mexico do not come to the U.S. to immigrate. They come here to work. They send money back home to their families in Mexico. It is a huge drain on our economy which is why the government continues to allow this situation.
5. I haven’t heard any of the GOP candidates say they want to see the laws against the hiring of illegals enforced. That is because many of these businesses contribute to both parties. Until the election laws are changed so that only private citizens (voters) can contribute to political campaigns, our political system will remain corrupt.
BTW, until we demand honesty from our candidates, pundits, and news organizations, they will continue to deceive us by directing our focus toward ignorant, stupid issues like border fences and in-state tuitions which involve only 1% of the student populatin in Texas. Governor Perry has taken a lot more heat than what he deserved because that’s where the media wanted us to go.