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	<title>Comments on: Obama &#8212; and some Republicans &#8212; missing the point on Sotomayor comments</title>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/05/30/obama-and-some-republicans-missing-the-point-on-sotomayor-comments/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt. I think both reactions are understandable and reasonable given the harsh rhetoric of Sotomayor. I am pleased that Lindsey managed to get out that Soto&#039;s statement was the classic definition of racism, i.e. superiority claims, even if he didn&#039;t affirm that 2+2=4 and that Sessions would not refute Rush and Newt&#039;s claims.

I am working on a column that fully explains my position on the word &quot;racism&quot; vs the statements and behaviors that may define it. What matters most is the statements and acts themselves, not semantics and too bad for Soto and Obama that Soto&#039;s statement is so succinct and vile. It hurts her every time its repeated, no matter if it is in the context of &quot;news&quot; on Rush/Newt and debate about them rather than her.

What people hear is her vile statement and even libs cringe when they hear it. Libs don&#039;t like to get passed over based on race either!

I don&#039;t consider calling a racist statement what it is. I do usually hesitate to call a person racist except in extreme cases, which I think this one is, so I don&#039;t have a problem with Rush and Newt and I don&#039;t have a problem with Graham and Sessions refraining from that using that word.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt. I think both reactions are understandable and reasonable given the harsh rhetoric of Sotomayor. I am pleased that Lindsey managed to get out that Soto&#8217;s statement was the classic definition of racism, i.e. superiority claims, even if he didn&#8217;t affirm that 2+2=4 and that Sessions would not refute Rush and Newt&#8217;s claims.</p>
<p>I am working on a column that fully explains my position on the word &#8220;racism&#8221; vs the statements and behaviors that may define it. What matters most is the statements and acts themselves, not semantics and too bad for Soto and Obama that Soto&#8217;s statement is so succinct and vile. It hurts her every time its repeated, no matter if it is in the context of &#8220;news&#8221; on Rush/Newt and debate about them rather than her.</p>
<p>What people hear is her vile statement and even libs cringe when they hear it. Libs don&#8217;t like to get passed over based on race either!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider calling a racist statement what it is. I do usually hesitate to call a person racist except in extreme cases, which I think this one is, so I don&#8217;t have a problem with Rush and Newt and I don&#8217;t have a problem with Graham and Sessions refraining from that using that word.</p>
<p>more later</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/05/30/obama-and-some-republicans-missing-the-point-on-sotomayor-comments/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed you too! I wasn&#039;t feeling good for a while and then my internet was down for a few days.That was so nice of you to write that it just made my whole day!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed you too! I wasn&#8217;t feeling good for a while and then my internet was down for a few days.That was so nice of you to write that it just made my whole day!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, some (general comment/statement, not saying it &quot;fits&quot; anyone in this discussion [so many still trying to Personalize things - again, general comment.... ugh, shame to have to keep pointing these things out]) will see Graham&#039;s name and lose objectivity, but I agree with Moe&#039;s FP Diary: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/05/31/lindsey-graham-wounded-by-sotomayors-hurtful-remarks/&quot;&gt;Graham wounded by SoSo&#039;s remarks&lt;/a&gt; Graham and Moe go about dealing with the Racism without the harsh rhetoric of it.... which is what (I think) Randy is suugesting we do!?!? Had you heard his remarks Mike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, some (general comment/statement, not saying it &#8220;fits&#8221; anyone in this discussion [so many still trying to Personalize things - again, general comment.... ugh, shame to have to keep pointing these things out]) will see Graham&#8217;s name and lose objectivity, but I agree with Moe&#8217;s FP Diary: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/05/31/lindsey-graham-wounded-by-sotomayors-hurtful-remarks/">Graham wounded by SoSo&#8217;s remarks</a> Graham and Moe go about dealing with the Racism without the harsh rhetoric of it&#8230;. which is what (I think) Randy is suugesting we do!?!? Had you heard his remarks Mike?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and everyone has a personal story that could make one better on a particular case

La Raza participation, plus her many statements on race and all her other latino legal and other orgs makes it look like she cares for nothing but race.

even the NYT?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31011651</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and everyone has a personal story that could make one better on a particular case</p>
<p>La Raza participation, plus her many statements on race and all her other latino legal and other orgs makes it look like she cares for nothing but race.</p>
<p>even the NYT?</p>
<p>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31011651</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sotomayor&#039;s racist statement is SO incendiary that every time it is heard by Americans, it hurts HER. It is dynamite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sotomayor&#8217;s racist statement is SO incendiary that every time it is heard by Americans, it hurts HER. It is dynamite.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in creating and/or spreading their BS.</description>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOME in the GOP are, as well -- and the mistake in that is in allowing Obama to define the argument.

You&#039;re right that nobody HERE thinks race is the issue.  But the Republican leadership didn&#039;t get the memo.

We -- AND the GOP leadership -- need to be hitting the points we&#039;ve all mentioned above: SoSo&#039;s (I love that abbreviation, 6eorgeJ) and Barry&#039;s total disregard for equal justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME in the GOP are, as well &#8212; and the mistake in that is in allowing Obama to define the argument.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that nobody HERE thinks race is the issue.  But the Republican leadership didn&#8217;t get the memo.</p>
<p>We &#8212; AND the GOP leadership &#8212; need to be hitting the points we&#8217;ve all mentioned above: SoSo&#8217;s (I love that abbreviation, 6eorgeJ) and Barry&#8217;s total disregard for equal justice.</p>
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		<title>By: $peciallist</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/05/30/obama-and-some-republicans-missing-the-point-on-sotomayor-comments/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>$peciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 02:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thought I&#039;d one up ya...</description>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not, of course, focusing on one statement.... Other remarks and judgements provide the whole Activism picture.... it is indeed not about her Race, never was of course but the RACE-baiting is the first-option the Democrats/Liberals want to use, and most of us aren&#039;t going to be suckered into it from that angle (though it seems Randy thinks there are some - any is indeed too many - &quot;going there&quot;)

Randy - We all agree being hung up on Race isn&#039;t the issue... It is the overall disregard for EQUAL JUSTICE! Her RACIST comments (demonstrates part of her disregard of it) are part of &quot;that&quot; overall context by which we oppose/object to her.

Randy, is the MSM playing Rush comments out of context part of the genesis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not, of course, focusing on one statement&#8230;. Other remarks and judgements provide the whole Activism picture&#8230;. it is indeed not about her Race, never was of course but the RACE-baiting is the first-option the Democrats/Liberals want to use, and most of us aren&#8217;t going to be suckered into it from that angle (though it seems Randy thinks there are some &#8211; any is indeed too many &#8211; &#8220;going there&#8221;)</p>
<p>Randy &#8211; We all agree being hung up on Race isn&#8217;t the issue&#8230; It is the overall disregard for EQUAL JUSTICE! Her RACIST comments (demonstrates part of her disregard of it) are part of &#8220;that&#8221; overall context by which we oppose/object to her.</p>
<p>Randy, is the MSM playing Rush comments out of context part of the genesis?</p>
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		<title>By: $peciallist</title>
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		<dc:creator>$peciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://liberalismisnotmainstream.com/sotojudge.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/05/30/obama-and-some-republicans-missing-the-point-on-sotomayor-comments/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the dems concentrate on it to re-spin it and even if some repubs go light, EVERYTIME the quote is mentioned it hurts Sotomayor VERY badly.

Most Americans, even liberals, hate that kind of talk and esp hate the whole idea of not being rewarded for hard work, like the Ricci firefighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the dems concentrate on it to re-spin it and even if some repubs go light, EVERYTIME the quote is mentioned it hurts Sotomayor VERY badly.</p>
<p>Most Americans, even liberals, hate that kind of talk and esp hate the whole idea of not being rewarded for hard work, like the Ricci firefighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>say this about racism, of which there are many kinds. I rarely do call a person a racist. I usually simply characterize actions of words as having that effect. I have made exceptions for Farrakhan, Rev Wright and now Sotomayor due to their blatant nature. Obama&#039;s two autobiographies also smack of this as well.

But I have also argued here that what matters most is what people do. I know many people that use the n word for example but that hire blacks and latinos and have many such friends. Yet, I know many people that would think the n-word was the worst thing in the world that have never hired blacks or had black friends of any depth and who really look upon minorities as inferior.

One thing I came to loathe about the dem party before I left it was its race based policies, no matter the motive.

That said, Obama and Sotomayor have ACTED on their racism. Obama with the Justice Dept dropping of the election intimidation case and Soto on Ricci.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say this about racism, of which there are many kinds. I rarely do call a person a racist. I usually simply characterize actions of words as having that effect. I have made exceptions for Farrakhan, Rev Wright and now Sotomayor due to their blatant nature. Obama&#8217;s two autobiographies also smack of this as well.</p>
<p>But I have also argued here that what matters most is what people do. I know many people that use the n word for example but that hire blacks and latinos and have many such friends. Yet, I know many people that would think the n-word was the worst thing in the world that have never hired blacks or had black friends of any depth and who really look upon minorities as inferior.</p>
<p>One thing I came to loathe about the dem party before I left it was its race based policies, no matter the motive.</p>
<p>That said, Obama and Sotomayor have ACTED on their racism. Obama with the Justice Dept dropping of the election intimidation case and Soto on Ricci.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the context of her remarks indicates she was making a much broader judgment about latinas vs white men. But even if she wasn&#039;t, it was still a racist judgment by definition.

We don&#039;t lose the other error she makes that most all liberals share by highlighting the race remark, especially from a political standpoint because most liberals don&#039;t appreciate racism of this kind at all, esp when one couples it with the Ricci case.

The left knows this statement is toxic, hence the Gibbs and then Obama walk back FRIDAY interview on network TV.

If her statement isn&#039;t blatant racism, of the classic superiority kind, then it would be hard to construct one other than to sat: &quot;I think latinas are superior to white men.&quot; and even then, they could holler context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the context of her remarks indicates she was making a much broader judgment about latinas vs white men. But even if she wasn&#8217;t, it was still a racist judgment by definition.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t lose the other error she makes that most all liberals share by highlighting the race remark, especially from a political standpoint because most liberals don&#8217;t appreciate racism of this kind at all, esp when one couples it with the Ricci case.</p>
<p>The left knows this statement is toxic, hence the Gibbs and then Obama walk back FRIDAY interview on network TV.</p>
<p>If her statement isn&#8217;t blatant racism, of the classic superiority kind, then it would be hard to construct one other than to sat: &#8220;I think latinas are superior to white men.&#8221; and even then, they could holler context.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy not a threadjack... just I was concerned that I had not seen any posting from mom2oneson, and I was worried.  

I agree with you m2oneson, I think it is often an element of class envy behind race issues.    What people don&#039;t understand is that never in any society are all people equal.  No matter how many strata you have or the numbers in each group.  For whatever reason, groups always differentiate within themselves, as well as without. 

  Unique to our country has been the concept of equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.  And yes there has not always been equal opportunity, but that is what the laws are about.  If someone like Sotomayor makes decisions not on the law, she actually harms all parties.  If a law is not right, then we have a system in place to change the law, but liberal activism is going around our modern day process.  In our current climate, the only ideas that seem acceptable are those from liberal whites and minorities.  That is unlawful discrimination toward minorities and whites who are of a different political persuasion.  Unfortunately, that is what is occurring with activist judges.  She is an activist first and a judge second.

Anyway glad to see you back, I missed you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy not a threadjack&#8230; just I was concerned that I had not seen any posting from mom2oneson, and I was worried.  </p>
<p>I agree with you m2oneson, I think it is often an element of class envy behind race issues.    What people don&#8217;t understand is that never in any society are all people equal.  No matter how many strata you have or the numbers in each group.  For whatever reason, groups always differentiate within themselves, as well as without. </p>
<p>  Unique to our country has been the concept of equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.  And yes there has not always been equal opportunity, but that is what the laws are about.  If someone like Sotomayor makes decisions not on the law, she actually harms all parties.  If a law is not right, then we have a system in place to change the law, but liberal activism is going around our modern day process.  In our current climate, the only ideas that seem acceptable are those from liberal whites and minorities.  That is unlawful discrimination toward minorities and whites who are of a different political persuasion.  Unfortunately, that is what is occurring with activist judges.  She is an activist first and a judge second.</p>
<p>Anyway glad to see you back, I missed you.</p>
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		<title>By: Common_Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common_Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Latina Judge&#039;s Voice is the title.  huh? as opposed to a White Judge&#039;s Voice?   

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Latina Judge&#8217;s Voice is the title.  huh? as opposed to a White Judge&#8217;s Voice?   </p>
<p>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all</p>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, really, such things are a cause of her judicial activism.  But the thing that makes her unfit for the Judiciary is not the class envy, but her complete lack of understanding about the responisibilities of her job and understanding of the Oath of Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, really, such things are a cause of her judicial activism.  But the thing that makes her unfit for the Judiciary is not the class envy, but her complete lack of understanding about the responisibilities of her job and understanding of the Oath of Office.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/2009/05/30/obama-and-some-republicans-missing-the-point-on-sotomayor-comments/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.redstate.com/rstreu/?p=72#comment-274</guid>
		<description>I didn&#039;t read the full speech just that sentence.
I can&#039;t even read it right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read the full speech just that sentence.<br />
I can&#8217;t even read it right now.</p>
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