“Starting to believe their own bull****” is the way I’ve phrased it, and they are operating under a false assumption. They are grossly underestimating the concerns and anger of their constituencies and accepting the White House party line.

It’ll be fun to watch the election returns in November next year and watch these poor, gullible fools go down and watch Kitten try to explain it away.

That is exactly who I am. (well, not the 70 year old grandma part, but you get my drift.)

so, 5.

Most of us knew that Chicago style politics was about to come to Washington. Didn’t take long to see that “a new kind of politics” wasn’t going to be hand-holding, hugging, and singing spiritual songs together. It was Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, brass knuckles, and union thugs.

“You don’t agree with what we’re trying to do, then fine. Let’s compromise. You shut your mouth before I shut it for you, and we’ll proceed with my original plan.”

How do you Obama voters like your “Hope and Change” now?

and why does kitten get to explain.
What is weird is that the Unions are protected class in Obama health care proposal. Those employees under a ‘collective bargaining agreement’ are exempt. I think the idea is to increase unions and, too, unions are Obama clients and vv.
So the Union goons are there as security, They do not have another reason.

Where’s that from, Robert?

Also, while I’ve heard that the protesters are “shills” for big pharm, I haven’t heard anyone say they were paid. Who’s saying that?

Thanks.

Thanks for the warning, Mr Hahn. It is to be hoped that the union thugs and other groups that are beholden’ to Obama heed this warning. Should these groups continue with these thug actions against the Obama Resistance that has been in attendance at the town halls of late, yes, more citizens will be hurt like that man in St Louis. These attacks will reflect badly on the unions, the democrats, and Obama. But worse, it will reflect badly on America. If there is a pattern of violence that develops, the Democrats and the Unions they support will suffer the damage, not conservatives. The protest planned today (SAT8AUG) at SEIU headquarters in St Louis is an example of the backlash that will result from this sort of thuggery. In the long run, violence perpetrated by these people will hurt THEM and their Democrat masters, not conservatives and moderates. Uncle Rush is convinced that ultimately Obama and his agenda will harm the Democrats in the long run. Are they stupid enough not to see that the violence will only add to the long-term damage of their party and these unions?

The Union THugs are Obama’s Blue Shirts.

We all want Obama’s agenda and, as you write, his present tactics, to fail. At the same time we must show that we vehemently protest against the thuggery, for the good of all. But will Obama take your advice and will he be able to reverse the trend to punk violence at townhalls. My suspicion is we are not yet at the “I can no more disavow my union thugs than I can disavow my grandmother, my pastor, my terrorist pal, or my foreign dictators. I commend you for trying, though.

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Watching the events over the past few days has been informative, to say the least. It reminded me of some of Achance’s diaries in the past which warned of violence to come. Except his diaries presupposed that the violence would come when the unemployed and disadvantaged finally realized that Obama wasn’t helping them out at all. I don’t think he predicted the scenario that is unfolding here.

The Dems are shooting themselves in both feet and the MSM is helping to reload every single time.

Violence, and larger scale, more sustained than anything heretofore seen. At some point normal people, anyone not a liberal, will start to fight back. This will precipitate an escalation by our fascist party, the Democrats, thinking in their insanity that as long as their vicious media supporters back them they can continue and increase the force that was always just beneath the surface.

The Democrats are about to break out of the modest restraints of tradition and the Constitution, about to act out the classical totalitarian urges of aggression and assault. As long as these throwbacks to primordial savagery think they can get away with it they will continue.

Obama? A violent, America hating man, totally exposed for what he is. And where are all the little liberals so worried about fascism under Bush?

…especially your comment about the reflexively warm embrace of the media blinding liberals to real public opinion.

The unconditional love of the MSM is a mixed blessing for Democrats. Sure, it gives them a home field advantage, but it can also boomerang when Americans remember their independent roots and reject an obvious sales job on bad policy.

The lefties sure are not taking a punch well.

about the claims Democrats are making that the town hall protesters are paid shills

They think this because that is how Democrats create similar events: they pay college students or homeless people to show up at a certain place at a certain time to wave signs and put on a display for their fellow Democrats in the media, who dutifully report that the citizenry is outraged at whatever the Democrats paid them to be outraged about.

100% agreement. They just can’t believe these people are doing something like this on their own.

Sorry, Speaker Pelosi and others on the left who think this is “astroturf”. This is genuine outrage and your side caused it. But I suppose it’s logical for you to think that because your side has employed astroturf for so long now.

around by a complicit media playing their theme song 24/7. They have for many years played their roles in a protected bubble -safe from tough questions and accountability-a scripted dramatic comedy that is about to be cancelled by reality.

This “mob” meme being repeated by the MSM is the last straw for me- responsible journalism has been long dead, but now they cannot even pull off skillful propaganda- it’s just blunt party line scripting from here on out.

At the moment, the script appears to be to use the current turbulence as an excuse for canceling town meetings to insulate potential wavering Congress persons from actually discerning what is going on in their constituent areas.

Why create more riots when you can simply shut down debate venues.

[Just the usual racist whining about Iraq from somebody who can't quite manage to see Middle Easterners as really real. Ehh. - ML]

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Ironically, they are upset about the government health care they may lose if this monstrosity passes. Along with the citizens who are participating to retain their own private insurance, the elderly population is showing up to fight to retain their Medicare insurance.

The Dems have used it for years to beat our side over the head-anytime there is an effort to reign in costs or make adjustments. They say we don’t care about the elderly. Of course not true. But this has always been the Dems fear mongering tactic. All of this has come about because the government got into health care to begin with. Forcing people over 65 onto Medicare rolls, making it illegal for them to pay out of pocket, etc.

I also include our military insurance in this as well. That is my family’s, we’ll make our voices heard. If Obamacare passes, the people are realizing the severe hit their care will receive and of course, how a lack of care leads to progressive illness, disease and death.

That will get the numbers down. Excellent post.

Perhaps seniors could provide a short-term boost for a GOP majority, but not one that could be counted on over the long haul. If this healthcare deal kicks in, this portion of the population is going to be systematically eliminated by the denial of the kind of life-extending treatment that has been considered normal, natural, and standard up to this point. Many older people have received wonderful medical treatment that has extended their useful and productive lives for years beyond what they would have had without such treatment.

And now that treatment is going to be denied. As long as our Internet activity can be monitored (along with our street address), and we don’t answer the questions on the census form and continue to oppose the current agenda, we’ll have black marks by our names. And we’ll be the people who get the most thorough end-of-life “counseling.”

To say nothing of the relocation/internment facilities for which the Army and National Guard are going to be trained.

It appears to me that this plan means business when it comes to population reduction and control.

And I haven’t quite come to terms yet with this reality, that if Obamacare becomes law I’ll be toast.

I’m new here – could someone tell me what “nt” and “5″ mean? Thanks!

http://www.experiencecorps.org/research/factsheet.html

This upcoming generation of retirees will be the healthiest, longest lived, best educated, most affluent in history of our country.

The number of Americans age 55 and older will almost double between now and 2030 – from 60 million today (21 percent of the total US population) to 107.6 million (31 percent of the population) – as the Baby Boomers reach retirement age.

Currently the fastest growing segment of the American population is 85 and older.

By 2050, 40 percent of 65-year-olds are likely to reach age 90.