Rick Scott deserves a lot of credit for being one of the first to raise money and fight against Obamacare. Glad to have him back for his perspective on MA. — Erick
Two different post-mortems from last night’s epic election are in, here and here, and the picture is crystal-clear: stopping government-run health care was by far the number one factor in Scott Brown’s history-making run for the Senate. By large margins, voters said their number one issue was stopping Congress from passing Obamacare. Via Politico:
Fifty-two percent of Bay State voters who were surveyed as the polls closed said they opposed the federal health care reform measure and 42 percent said they cast their ballot to help stop President Obama from passing his chief domestic initiative.
But what’s even more instructive is where the message came from: Massachusetts, a state that is already suffering from the shortcomings of a government-run health care system. Bay Staters are currently experiencing the prolonged waits common in Canada and they’ve seen their premiums rise to the highest in the country. Had this election happened in any other state, even a liberal state, without a government-run health system, the message would be, “We don’t want the reforms that Congress is pushing.” But coming from Massachusetts, a liberal state used as a model for the current health care legislation, the message has so much more…gravitas.
Bay Staters said it loud and clear last night: “We know all about government-run health care, and we’ve had enough.”
Steve Maley
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Some of the great things about MA Universal Health Care
NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 9:45AM EST (link)1. Doctors leaving the state or retiring early.
2. Rationing,
3. Long waits for docs if you can find one.
4. Higher premiums.
5. Denial of claims rising.
6. Bankrupting the state.
Other than that it’s great…
NickDeringer
Yes. I live in Massachusetts (spelled correctly)
NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 9:46AM EST (link)I speak from experience…
NickDeringer
I'm in MA and in healthcare
khayos Thursday, January 21st at 11:17AM EST (link)I can’t imagine if this same type of legislation was passed outside of the “hubs” of medicine in MA and IL. It would absolutely destroy a state’s health.
The Alternative Narrative
TheYeomanFarmer (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 10:00AM EST (link)What I’ve been finding laughable is the left’s version of this narrative, which is 180 degrees from reality:
Bay Staters already have a wonderful universal health system of their own, which they love, and they voted for Brown to kill Obamacare because don’t want to have to pay extra federal taxes to give everyone else in the country the same benefits — or to have Obamacare interfere with that wonderful system they already have.
Ironic RomneyCare Story
Sundayjack (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 10:02AM EST (link)So, back in August, I made an appointment with my doctor for my annual physical, “Soonest we have is January,” the scheduler told me. Fine. Par for the course.
On Tuesday, I was working on the historic election of Senator Scott Brown. Around 12:30 pm, my blackberry flash an alert: “1:00 PM – Dr. Smith’s Office. Annual Physical.” Of course, I had to call and cancel. I rescheduled at the same time. The receptionist told me good news: “You’re in luck. I have an opening February 17th.” Another month.
I like my doctor. She’s really good with referrals and she’s also really good looking (heh). But even if I wanted to find a new PCP who could fit me in sooner, you can’t GET a new PCP easily. Many don’t take new patients. I found that out in my search for this one. I imagine that’s not unique to Massachusetts, but I don’t know. I do know that someone did a claymation skit on health care waits in Massachusetts a while back, and it was dead on. No pun intended.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.”
You mean this one?
finallyhadenuff Thursday, January 21st at 11:12AM EST (link)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqD-nMpsYAY
Sorry, I couldn’t figure out how to link.
I did better than I thought nt
finallyhadenuff Thursday, January 21st at 11:14AM EST (link)That's the one
Sundayjack (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 3:19PM EST (link)n/t
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.”
They know it doesn't work, it doesn't matter.
johnt Thursday, January 21st at 10:24AM EST (link)What matters is that they control it, and you. As it matters to the LittleLiberals, the vast number of the unknowns, that they get a vicarious charge of the exercise of that power, an erogenous discharge of blind aggression, temporary relief for their inner torments and primeval urges.
Allowances must be made for the few who, from self deception or base stupidity, really think that government butchered health care will really be an improvement.
One can never be sure when one enters the lower sewers of human nature for speculative purposes.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Bay State Opposition To ObamaCare is Complex
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 10:33AM EST (link)Brown walked a tigh rope well, but he supports RomneyCare. We can’t delude oursleves. There are actually three right of center gubernatorial tickets in Mass for 2010 and none are advocating the the repeal of RomneyCare.
It is somewhat ironic that RomneyCare may be the deathknell of Oabamcare, not because it failed, but because it took the issue of the table for liberals. 98% of Bay Staters are insured and we have an insurance exchange. The Democrats had nothing to offer the bleeding hearts in this bleeding heart state.
Republicans opposed ObamaCare for the obvious reason. Many independents opposed ObamaCare for equitable reasons. Under ObamaCare, residents here would carry all the burdens to insure the uninsured in other states. It was a bad deal for the state and Brown articulated that well. Conservative Dems and Union Dems opposed it because of the cadillac tax and the cuts to medicare. Again, these issues resonated more strongly here because of RomneyCare. There was no percieved upside to ObamaCare cuts and taxes because whatever it offered, Mass already had.
I’m as pyshed as anyone, but the MA-Senate race was a unique cocktail of issues and anxieties.
Republicans opposed ObamaCare for the obvious reasons.
Huh?
hazard Thursday, January 21st at 11:04AM EST (link)Your title is misleading. RomneyCare is not government run. I guess your’e the “authority” on this issue so feel free to enlighten me but I find that it diminishes your credibility asserting that it is. I agree with Swamp_Yankee’s comments. If Mass. currently had a large uninsured population, Coakley would have been able to successfully paint Republicans as evil, heartless and who want to see you die of cancer. It has worked everytime up until Romney took the issue off the table.
Hope you are right, but I get a different view
WmCraig (Diary) Thursday, January 21st at 7:22PM EST (link)I agree everything points to the Bay Stater’s wanting to stop ObamaCare. However, it is important if Republicans want to regain and keep power that they understand that wanting to stop ObamaCare and not wanting socialized medicine are not the same thing.
There is another reason why people who actually like the Bay State health care do not want ObamaCare. One very liberal democrat who called Bill Bennett’s morning in America show on Election Day put it best. She thinks their health care is the best anywhere, but she is doesn’t want to have to ask Chuck Schumer “for permission for my son to receive a procedure”.
Many people who weren’t against Romney’s health care just don’t want Washington dictating the terms. They like socialized medicine, they just don’t want to beg Washington for understanding. They don’t want Nancy Pelosi deciding how much everyone can spend and on what. Bay Staters want to keep the politicians making these decisions within “slapping distance”.
So, yes, they were against ObamaCare being foisted upon them from Washington. My take away, it doesn’t matter if the Republicans come up with the perfect solution. People in Massachusetts don’t want ANYONE in Washington telling them how to do something that they think they can decide locally.
Given their history, going back before the founding of the country, that shouldn’t be surprising. Given all the Tea Party actions, it shouldn’t be hard to understand.
The real message, in my opinion is that the Bay Staters want the power of the federal government constrained.
Want real change, how about we get rid of all the CZARS, and reduce all the cabinets and go back to let the states run everything not specifically reserved for the Federal Government. I think it says something about that in the constitution that Adam’s fellow have a hand in that?