Angry Ideologues vs. The Statists


Conor Friedersdorf, writing at Andrew Sullivan’s The Daily Dish, has a thoughtful critique of Mark Levin’s huge bestseller Liberty and Tyranny.

It caught my eye because I finished the book last week and was as impressed as Conor with some of Levin’s arguments, especially how he constructed a logical, and coherent framework for applying traditional conservatism to problems associated with modern America. It was a brave attempt to marry philosophy with politics and Mr. Levin should be congratulated for going beyond the usual cotton candy conservatism we get from the Hannity’s and Becks of the right.

However, like Conor, I was troubled by what might be termed, Levin’s problem with “enemy identification:”

As I reflect on Liberty and Tyranny’s final pages, however, I find myself unable to respond without addressing a larger feature of the book that I regard as its most consequential flaw: Its every section, including the Epilogue, references few if any concepts as often as “Statism.”

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The United States that he comments on isn’t one that pits Republicans against Democrats, or conservatives against liberals, or the center right against the center left, or where citizens of complicated political persuasions — mixing ideology, pragmatism and ignorance — do some combination of participating in politics and ignoring it. Instead Mark Levin’s America is one where the conservatives are pitted against the Statists, or to put things as he would, where liberty is pitted against tyranny.

Freidersdorf never gives us his definition of “statism” so it is impossible to discover why he believes the label is so mis-applied in Levin’s book. Conor quotes Levin’s thesis:

The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state, thereby rejecting the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the order of the civil society, in whole or in part. For the Modern Liberal, the individual’s imperfection and personal pursuits impede the objective of a utopian state. In this, Modern Liberalism promotes what French historian Alexis de Tocqueville described as a soft tyranny, which becomes increasingly more oppressive, potentially leading to a hard tyranny (some form of totalitarianism). As the word “liberal” is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern Liberal as a statist.

Do “modern liberals” desire to create a “Utopia?” That is an exaggeration. Liberals are no more enamored of Utopia than conservatives. Both political philosophies seek to create societies that emphasize different virtues; self reliance vs. community; moral order vs. fairness; personal responsibility vs. the collective good.

It is also mis-leading (though not entirely inaccurate) to say that liberals favor the “supremacy of the state.” It is more accurate to say that the modern left favors promoting “the collective good” at the expense of “selfish” individuality. They do not dismiss individual rights. They simply believe that in some instances – more than is healthy for liberty’s sake – those rights should be trumped by what is best for all.

This flies in the face of Kirk’s “voluntary community” but is a far cry of worshiping at the altar of “statism.” And Conor nails it when he takes Levin to task for generalizing and ultimately, mis-identifying the enemy:

Terrible as he sounds, The Statist that Mr. Levin describes—his ill deeds keep growing as the book winds down–would at least play a clarifying role in American politics if he actually existed. Imagine how useful a blueprint Mr. Levin’s book would prove if the primary opponents of conservatives were actually cunning Statists with malign motives and hatred of liberty in their hearts. But re-read all the attributes that describe the Statist. Does anyone in American politics fit that description, let alone a plurality sizable enough to enact their agenda?

In fact, the main antagonists that the American conservative vies with in politics are the independent, the liberal, the center left Democrat, the progressive, even some among the apolitical. The average people who support “Statist” President Obama’s domestic agenda are apolitical African American women who work in cubicles, law firm associates who earn six figure salaries, and working parents who fret about being uninsured—not utopian radicals bent on advancing a counterrevolution that destroys the freedom won by the Founding generation.

Levin obviously has in mind Democrats and liberals who support the agenda of President Obama – an agenda full of “solutions” to problems like health care, climate change, education, the home mortgage crisis, and our economic woes. Is this a “statist” manifesto or an attempt by a political party to curry favor with voters by offering to address their real life concerns?

I have resisted using terms like “socialist” and especially “communist” to describe the Democrat’s ideology because by strict definition, they are not trying to destroy the free market, repeal individual rights (as always, making an exception for 2nd amendment guarantees), set up a dictatorship, or impose “tyranny – soft or hard – on the American people.

Sllippery slope arguments are unconvincing, if only because the logical fallacy involved in the “boiling frog” scenario where we all just sit back and allow the government to descend into a kind of fascism, is belied by the stink being made by conservatives over some of Obama’s more anti-free market actions today. Can you imagine if Obama really tried to take control of the economy? I daresay we wouldn’t need Glenn Beck, weeping on live television about how bad things are with Obama as president to activate conservatives. And we wouldn’t be alone. Moderates, libertarians, classical liberals, and others would be standing with us, side by side, to strenuously oppose any move to socialize the entire economy.

But I too, have been guilty of using the word “statist” to describe what Obama and the Democrats have been doing. My definition is a little more benign than Levin’s in that the agenda being promoted by the left would not lead to tyranny, but rather a highly constricted free market of the sort that is practiced in many European social democracies; over-regulated markets that stifle inventiveness, innovation, and entrepreneurship. With such regulation necessarily comes higher taxes on all: reason enough to oppose the Democrats and thwart their plans for “fairness, transparency, and accountability” in the free market.

But I see Friedersdorf’s point. There may be a small clique on the left that would love to see an America that they could “guide” in a paternalistic sort of way. George Soros and his billionaire buddies come to mind. But in order to kill the free market, enslave the American people, gain control of the media, and destroy liberty, those ordinary folk Conor mentioned would have to be convinced that all of this would make their lives better – a tall order, that.

This problem with mis-identification that Conor writes about as well as the wrong headed definitions of where Obama and the Democrats are trying to take the country, feed what has become a perceived paranoia among many conservatives that is driving people away from the movement rather than rallying them to our standard.

At bottom is the argument I’ve been trying to advance in this series; that the excessive ideology fueling the rage that manifests itself in paranoid rantings on the internet against imagined socialism, the purging of perceived apostates, the obsession with ideological purity, and more recently, shouted down speakers at health care town halls – all of this damages conservatism in the eyes of people who might be inclined to support our cause. It also makes it extraordinarily easy for the opposition to paint conservatives as too emotional to trust with running the government.

Bruce Bartlett has some similar thoughts:

I think the party got seriously on the wrong track during the George W. Bush years, as I explained in my Impostor book. In my opinion, it no longer bears any resemblance to the party of Ronald Reagan. I still consider myself to be a Reaganite. But I don’t see any others anywhere in the GOP these days, which is why I consider myself to be an independent. Mindless partisanship has replaced principled conservatism. What passes for principle in the party these days is “what can we do to screw the Democrats today.” How else can you explain things like that insane op-ed Michael Steele had in the Washington Post on Monday?

I am not alone. When I talk to old timers from the Reagan years, many express the same concerns I have. But they all work for Republican-oriented think tanks like AEI and Hoover and don’t wish to be fired like I was from NCPA . Or they just don’t want to be bothered or lose friends. As a free agent I am able to say what they can’t or won’t say publicly.

I think the Republican Party is in the same boat the Democrats were in in the early eighties — dominated by extremists unable to see how badly their party was alienating moderates and independents.

I don’t think you can accuse Bartlett, Friedersorf, or I for that matter, of lacking principles. I have made the argument that pragmatists are as principled as any ideologue. Where the extremists and I part company is in the application of those principles to real world politics. Not hating your opponent should not disqualify you from being a conservative, nor should dismissing the notion that Obama is a socialist be cause enough to question one’s conservative bona fides. Principled opposition in a republic must be based on the golden rule; respect others as you yourself would like to be respected. No, I don’t always live up to that credo. But I would like to think that I never question the good intentions of my foes. Wrong, not evil.

And on a related note, I would argue with Mark Levin that liberty does not exist in a vacuum, nor can free people exist apart from the community that bred them. There are responsibilities that go along with enjoying liberty that includes the recognition that we are not islands unto ourselves, and that government, however imperfect it can be, is nevertheless not the implacable enemy of liberty some conservatives believe.

A danger at times? Yes. But if conservatism is to triumph again, we must demonstrate that conservative principles can be applied to running government better than the those of the opposition. That is the essence of politics and we would do well to remember it.



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I would agree with this if TrueBelievers™ didn't controll the House, Senate and WH.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 2:57PM EST (link)

Since they do, I think Levin nailed it.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Funny.

farstar99 (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 4:46PM EST (link)

The “let’s pay nice with Democrats” jellyfish ideas always seems to surface when the Democrats are losing.

Good point farstar...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 4:50PM EST (link)

They are skilled at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

BTW…I wonder why Rick Moran didn’t post this at Culture 11. I mean if Conor Friedersdorf is so fricken smart, why was that such an epic FAIL?

;^)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 

That's nice, Rick. What did your local GOP chair say...

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 3:22PM EST (link)

…when you explained this to him or her?

"Conservative" not "Republican"

Rick Moran (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 4:28PM EST (link)

If I mention the party at all in the piece – and I don’t reference it specifically – it is as a vessel to carry conservative principles.

I am not a party man. I am concerned with conservatism. As far as Republicans are concerned, I feel if I can help reform conservatism, that helps the party.

In other words, you didn't.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 4:50PM EST (link)

Now, did you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just going to waste my site’s bandwidth some more with complaints that do nothing but annoy actual activists and drive down their diaries?

I believe my views are indeed useful

Rick Moran (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:18PM EST (link)

And I’m afraid annoying people is the price paid for revealing unpleasant truths that many conservative ideologues resist believing.

And if the price of admission for presenting one’s views on this site is to be an “activist” in a political party, or to adhere to some nebulous, ill defined criteria that what one has to say is “useful,” that might be something I’d expect to see on a liberal site, not a conservative one.

So I’m sure you welcome all viewpoints that are reasonably argued, and can be responded to in a reasonable way. Thank you for that.

That would be another "No," then.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:24PM EST (link)

So noted.

Moe Lane

PS: I note that this is a reprint of something that was originally from your site. While RedState permits full reproductions of posts and articles by the author, we expect the post to link back to the original source. Please do so in the future.

 

Your argument is based on a projection

Beaglescout (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 10:55PM EST (link)

>>At bottom is the argument I’ve been trying to advance in this series; that the excessive ideology fueling the rage that manifests itself in paranoid rantings on the internet against imagined socialism, the purging of perceived apostates, the obsession with ideological purity, and more recently, shouted down speakers at health care town halls – all of this damages conservatism in the eyes of people who might be inclined to support our cause. It also makes it extraordinarily easy for the opposition to paint conservatives as too emotional to trust with running the government.<<

Who is purging imagined apostates? Is it the extremes or you and your “new conservatives” with your “go along with the Democrat agenda and try to sneak in toy versions of conservative ideas” plans? That’s right, it was Conor Friedersdorf who caught hell from other Republicans starting in McCain’s campaign and going until now, right? Not Sarah Palin at all. Now, who do I want on my side if it gets down to fighting? Do I want the Barracuda or those people who back-stabbed the VP candidate in their own party’s ticket in the middle of the campaign?

On the ideologue charge: Conservatives do not have an ideology. Conservatives have principles that when widely accepted have historically allowed flawed human beings to coexist in peace. Conservatives believe in learning from history, the great laboratory of human behavior, rather than in repeating the mistakes of the past. The only ideology at play is the one that believes that technocrats can pull the levers of power in government and somehow engineer a better kind of man, despite the failure of this plan every single time it has been tried in the history of mankind. That is the progressive movement in a nutshell. You can be a progressive Republican or Democrat, it doesn’t matter. You are still a progressive who believes in bigger, more intrusive government and less freedom. But a progressive is not a conservative. Progressives are ideologues. Conservatives have an empirically developed and tested set of principles that work, if only the progressives stop interfering with every last one of them. So do you think we should use what has worked in history, or what has always failed everywhere and every time it has been tried?

Townhall coverage has been falsified by the media. Republicans are not at fault. Rather, the Democrats and big media are attacking a strawman. Tea Partiers, who are not all Republicans, are understandably angry at the socialist/fascist blitzkrieg from Bush’s TARP as well as Obama’s non-stimulus Stimulus and Obamacare and all the unconstitutional czars. Are they supposed to be happy with things? Are they supposed to be happy to be slandered as teabaggers by media and Democrats, and beaten up by Democrat-hired goon squads?

And as for the attitude canard, it is also false. We are in a war for the allegiance of people who don’t know or care anything about anything. But they will support a fighter. They love offense, whether it’s smashmouth football or the long bomb. They boo teams who play defense. And if you play defense, get your butt kicked, and smile like you’re happy with this state of affairs, you are doomed. It looks like you have so little faith in your principles that you’d rather lose. It looks like you’re a loser. That’s what the weak sisters in the Republican Party look like: losers.

No team needs that.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton

5...nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 11:04PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

Mr Moran, your ship has arrived

Darin_H (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 8:37PM EST (link)

fail

Let me make it even MORE clear than Moe has. YOU are the one who can affect these changes in the GOP (even if they are wrong as shown below) only by participating in actual politicking.

Instead of getting to work and getting your hands dirty, you’d rather snipe from the side, “You’re doing it wrong!” And then you run and cry again on your blog – waaaahhhhhh. My 7 month old has tougher skin than you.

You’d rather Monday Morning QB than play in the game.

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

 
 
 

"I am not a party man."

ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:16PM EST (link)

If that means you are not a precinct committeeman, in your case maybe that’s a good thing for the Party.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:28PM EST (link)

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So here's the deal tool...We don't need no stinking...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 8:35PM EST (link)

reform to Conservatism it is beautiful in its simplicity. The only reform that is needed is in the Republican party and that is exactly what Levin and this site and Rush etc are attempting to do. It is to reform them from D-lite to a hard turn to the RIGHT ie: Conservatism. We don’t need you to tell us that there is anything wrong with Conservatism because there ISN’T!

 

"I am not a party man. "

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 6:09PM EST (link)

Why not?

“I feel if I can help reform conservatism, that helps the party.”

If you are not a member of the party, and just criticize it from the outside, it really doesnt change the party effectively and thus doesnt help it.

YOU CANNOT HELP THE PARTY UNLESS YOU ARE PART OF IT.

So it boils down to the question of – do you care one way or the other whether the Republican party rises or falls?

 
 
 

Do the left reject their extremes or do they embrace them?

Beaglescout (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 3:41PM EST (link)

I think you are missing the boat. The extremes are useful. The Republicans have no busines jettisoning any likely Republican voters.

The media will squawk. That is irrelevant. The NYT-led media are the bought-and-paid-for propaganda arm of the radical socialist wing of the Democrat party. We need to belittle and otherwise ignore what they say, rather than lend them any of the legitimacy they have squandered.

The Democrats have divided into two sub-parties. One sub-party is the traditional Democrat party, which believes in America and in big government. The other sub-party is the socialist left of the Democrat party, which emerged between 1968 and 1972, now led by George Soros’ picked candidates and his well financed think-tanks and propaganda blogs. The second group are running the Democrat party and the country right now.

This fissure in the Democrats is a weak spot in their party, and Republicans should be exploiting the Democrats’ weakness instead of trying to break off the extremes of the Republican party. That’s why I believe your approach is fundamentally wrong-headed and would be suicidal for the GOP.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton

A wary semi-agreement

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 6:16PM EST (link)

There is a lot we can learn from the tactics of the left, and it has been a thrilling ride lately watching how the Patriots are using the tactics of the left to turn against the NewObamaMachineOrder.

But I’d be a little wary of an argument that goes “The Left succeeds with this, so lets try it too”

Does that includes their lies, smears, hypocrisy and smelly hippies banging conga drums at protest marches?

Should we not evaluate before we imitate?

Some things serve no purpose, or harm not help. Violent extremism for one. Nutty conspiracy theories is another (eg birthers are of no help to the right today – they hurt). 3rd party and obscurist ideological extremism (texas secession, nullification, etc)

 
 

I really wish the tea and crumpets approach that you're advocating actually works ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 4:09PM EST (link)

… but after the last eight years of Chimpy McBushHitlerburton, “9/11 was an inside job”, BushLied™, TrigTrutherism and all that, only to watch the American people reward the Democrats with an 80 seat House Majority, a filibuster-proof Senate and the White House, I’m not going to continue fooling myself into believing that there is some silent majority out there crying itself to sleep at night because Republicans and Democrats refuse to start a mutual admiration society.

And to be honest, while I’ve been reading your writing for long enough to know that you do have some principles you adhere to, I certainly can say that Conor Friedersdorf is one individual that has none to speak of – he’s nothing more than a male version of Meghan McCain, only without the reach-across-the-aisle loser Daddy and push-up bra. The fact that he is blogging at TrigTruther Central is more than enough proof.

Quite frankly, I really don’t believe you’re particularly well equipped to tell who or what actually has principles nowadays, Rick Moran. If I remember correctly, you’re the guy who wrote an article at PJM tsking at Conservatives for driving Arlen Specter into the arms of Harry Reid. Worse, you interpreted it as a rejection of “fiscal conservatism” and a sign that Jack Kemp would have similarly been driven away … as if there were anything in any way similar about the two men.

Principled opposition in a republic must be based on the golden rule; respect others as you yourself would like to be respected.

Okay … but I wonder why is it that you and people (who are supposedly on our side) like you don’t hold the Democrats to the same standard? We saw George W. Bush live by this rule for eight long years. It was never reciprocated. Not once. To the end, he refused to hit back and he prevented his spokesmen from hitting back and when he went down he took the GOP down with him. The lesson to be learned is that there is a corollary to the Golden Rule; “Turnabout is fair play.”

The reason the MAD policy between the USA and USSR worked is that both sides knew that the other wouldn’t turn the other cheek in the event of a nuclear strike – there would be a counterstrike. And that was enough to stay everyone’s hand and establish boundaries of behavior that neither violated. There was a balance.

Right now, that balance doesn’t exist. The Democrats routinely run roughshod over any semblance of respect or decency toward the other side, both in and out of Congress. Something needs to be done, and quite frankly, your moaning that we continue to play by Marquess of Queensbury rules while the Democrats are climbing into the ring with a tire iron in hand is not helping.

55555 nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 4:15PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Ditto - 5

IJB Monday, August 31st at 4:40PM EST (link)

This Diary is far too complementary to the other side – they aren’t really “Statists”: they are Totalitarians through and through.

 
 
 

Swamp land for sale!! And I can get you a great deal Rick.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 4:29PM EST (link)

It’s not your typical “Florida” swamp either, it’s “Arizona” swamp. No gators. Almost no snakes. No bugs.

I will need cash, but it’s a great, GREAT deal.

No snakes?

Rick Moran (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:20PM EST (link)

What’s a swamp without a few cotton mouths? Sorry, I’ll pass.

Now, if you had some beachfront property in Utah…

One decent quake and I've got beachfront property

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 9:42PM EST (link)

in Arizona.

 
 

No water either, I'd suspect -nt-

civil truth (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:23PM EST (link)

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

 
 

Blegh!

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 5:33PM EST (link)

God, now I have to go read something that makes sense, to get this taste of propaganda out of my mouth.

Other people here seem to know you, but I don’t. I apologize if you’re somebody famous that I should know. All I see here is a long-winded attempt to frame the power-holders and gate-keepers of the Left as reasonable, pragmatic, and benign (the exceptions being a “small clique”).

According to you, those who oppose their attempt to turn America into Cuba are “angry ideologues”.

No sale.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

So rick your paragraph...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 6:45PM EST (link)

“I have resisted using terms like “socialist” and especially “communist” to describe the Democrat’s ideology because by strict definition, they are not trying to destroy the free market, repeal individual rights (as always, making an exception for 2nd amendment guarantees), set up a dictatorship, or impose “tyranny – soft or hard – on the American people.”

I would argue that by strict definition that the left are trying to destroy free markets in favor of government markets and if you think for one moment that Obama and company are NOT trying to repeal individual rights to impose a hard tyranny then you are NOT paying attention. The right they are going for first is through the FCC because if you control the airwaves you control the people as was apparent until the breakthrough of Reagan ending the FCC’s control of radio and opening it up to Conservative domination and why is the radio so dominant for Conservatives? because the media is liberal and they control TV and their total control was not broken until FOX came along. I look at ABC and NBC REFUSING to run an ad critical of Obamacare and think how many ads or stories over the years did the public NOT see because of their control.

I would say that Socialist is exactly the word for what this administration and their leftwing Congressional minions are attempting to take us to and if one opens their eyes and ears they will see it as well. It is only We The People that stand in the way of their goals.

I would like you to really look at and re-think this soft slide to tyranny that Levin speaks of because if you are an honest broker of information you will see it to be FACTUAL.

OBTW anyone writing at Sullivan’s blog is not worthy of the toilet paper that wipes the A__ of Levin’s backside!

And so it was, that absolutely everything that needed to be said was encapsuled in one sentence...

randy streu (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 6:48PM EST (link)

which was the last.

Of course, the rest of it was good too, I don’t get all this “play nice” crap. Especially when the Left is trying so damned hard to ruin the country.

It is interesting isn't it Randy all of these diaries...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 7:13PM EST (link)

recently telling us how to act what to say and how what we are seeing is not socialism, liberalism etc. There are also those that tell us that using liberalism is using the N word or Socialism is the N word and we have writers from oversea’s telling us how great “free” healthcare is. It makes one start to wonder exactly what type of Conservatives or Republicans these are and then you know exactly what type they are….THEY ARE NOT!

If anyone wants to buy a clue as to the direction of the Republican party they need only look at the folks in the TEA parties and the folks at the townhalls because those folks will be voting for those who espouse SMALL GOVERNMENT. There will NOT be a rush to elect big government D’s or R’s. There will be if Republicans accept the challenge a Reagan direction in this country in 2010 in that red, blue and purple will be overwhelmingly flooding the voting booths to end this SLIDE TO TYRANNY!

 
 
 

No statists? Really? You don't see any?

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, August 31st at 6:56PM EST (link)

I thought Mr. Levin connected the dots quite well. My list of obvious statists include Obama, rahm,Pelosi, Reid and the list goes on.

Must be right-wing paranoia. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

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Here's a few more, who lived down the street from

ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 9:08PM EST (link)

the Obamas. Indeed, Bernadine Dohrn worked at Sidley & Austin when ‘Chelly worked there.

Here’s some more. This information is not hard to find.

Yup, no statists.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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"Honey, I shrunk the conservatives" nt

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 5:52PM EST (link)

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 

Good God Rick -- have you been awake for the last six months?

David Hinz (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 8:42PM EST (link)

Can you imagine if Obama really tried to take control of the economy? I daresay we wouldn’t need Glenn Beck, weeping on live television about how bad things are with Obama as president to activate conservatives. And we wouldn’t be alone. Moderates, libertarians, classical liberals, and others would be standing with us, side by side, to strenuously oppose any move to socialize the entire economy.

Does the term TEA PARTY ring a bell? Or do you believe the Obama Media that this is all some sort of Astroturf operation? I’ve been at Tea Parties — they are REAL! And they are not all Republicans or Conservatives… you need to get out more!

Townhall Meetings? Have you noticed that a lot of people are showing up and are mad as hell at their elected officials? Again, who do you think they all are? Republican operatives?

Seriously, get outside Washington some time — there is a whole world out there that is NOT Washington.

Make that eight years. [nt]

Martin Knight (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 12:00AM EST (link)