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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(from the video in RedHot). The whole thing is boring anyways so why don&#039;t we spice things up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(from the video in RedHot). The whole thing is boring anyways so why don&#8217;t we spice things up.</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a considerable amount of time.  Even with a chainsaw all the trimming branches and cutting it into manageable sized pieces is a long, tedious job.  It would add immeasurable excitement to an otherwise long boring day if they screamed and perhaps begged and pleaded.  With any luck male trees would have algore&#039;s voice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a considerable amount of time.  Even with a chainsaw all the trimming branches and cutting it into manageable sized pieces is a long, tedious job.  It would add immeasurable excitement to an otherwise long boring day if they screamed and perhaps begged and pleaded.  With any luck male trees would have algore&#8217;s voice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Uma Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
--Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”<br />
&#8211;Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CincoSolas_del_Bronx</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>CincoSolas_del_Bronx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a few moments he was allowing me to blissfully imagine that those of us who find every reason to believe in a young earth could actually PROFIT from that view! Whoda thunk it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a few moments he was allowing me to blissfully imagine that those of us who find every reason to believe in a young earth could actually PROFIT from that view! Whoda thunk it?</p>
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		<title>By: wayneinnh</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>wayneinnh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you feel the need to become informed, which judging from  your previous posts you do not, there is a great article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/crus_source_code_climategate_r.html&quot;&gt;American Thinker &lt;/a&gt;today. It  goes into the source code used to evaluate the warming data with respect to the tree ring data. Here are a couple of snippets from the source code:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
“IMPORTANT NOTE: The data after 1960 should not be used.  The tree-ring density records tend to show a decline after 1960 relative to the summer temperature in many high-latitude locations.  In this data set this ‘decline’ has been artificially removed in an ad-hoc way, and this means that data after 1960 no longer represent tree-ring density variations, but have been modified to look more like the observed temperatures.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel the need to become informed, which judging from  your previous posts you do not, there is a great article on <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/crus_source_code_climategate_r.html">American Thinker </a>today. It  goes into the source code used to evaluate the warming data with respect to the tree ring data. Here are a couple of snippets from the source code:</p>
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“IMPORTANT NOTE: The data after 1960 should not be used.  The tree-ring density records tend to show a decline after 1960 relative to the summer temperature in many high-latitude locations.  In this data set this ‘decline’ has been artificially removed in an ad-hoc way, and this means that data after 1960 no longer represent tree-ring density variations, but have been modified to look more like the observed temperatures.”
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Piltdown man doesn&#039;t lie, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Piltdown man doesn&#8217;t lie, either.</p>
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		<title>By: squabulous</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>squabulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bristlecone pine growth rings show that the last 50 years have been the warmest and wettest in 3,500 years. 

A 1,200-year-old redwood slab in Sonoma County shows the same 50-year warming trend. 

Ancient maps and archaeological sites show a corresponding rise in sea level 

I don&#039;t trust scientists, they are too easily cowed by funding and peer pressure. Trees and beaches do not lie. Too bad the oil/coal industry hacks who pretend otherwise also pretend the world is only 6,000 years old. Funny how science goes out the window when it conflicts with profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bristlecone pine growth rings show that the last 50 years have been the warmest and wettest in 3,500 years. </p>
<p>A 1,200-year-old redwood slab in Sonoma County shows the same 50-year warming trend. </p>
<p>Ancient maps and archaeological sites show a corresponding rise in sea level </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust scientists, they are too easily cowed by funding and peer pressure. Trees and beaches do not lie. Too bad the oil/coal industry hacks who pretend otherwise also pretend the world is only 6,000 years old. Funny how science goes out the window when it conflicts with profit.</p>
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		<title>By: azred</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>azred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stories on this huge breaking news......Or I&#039;m sure they are.....ABC - 0, NBC - 0, CBS - 0, CNN - 0, MSNBC - 0.  Crickets......
Internet sites, FOX and even WaPo and the NYT (sort of).  Although such a horrific crime would lead the rags to not post the evidence.
No surprise since this is involves one element of the leftist trifecta to utopia.

This lid needs to be blown to the top!!! No mercy, no holding back!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stories on this huge breaking news&#8230;&#8230;Or I&#8217;m sure they are&#8230;..ABC &#8211; 0, NBC &#8211; 0, CBS &#8211; 0, CNN &#8211; 0, MSNBC &#8211; 0.  Crickets&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Internet sites, FOX and even WaPo and the NYT (sort of).  Although such a horrific crime would lead the rags to not post the evidence.<br />
No surprise since this is involves one element of the leftist trifecta to utopia.</p>
<p>This lid needs to be blown to the top!!! No mercy, no holding back!!!</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I find this video funny. Hitler was a GW skeptic. Yes! He was!

Warning there is one bad word in the captioning text.

H/t wattsupwiththat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTGLpqFGyYM&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I find this video funny. Hitler was a GW skeptic. Yes! He was!</p>
<p>Warning there is one bad word in the captioning text.</p>
<p>H/t wattsupwiththat:</p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTGLpqFGyYM&amp;feature=player_embedded</p>
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		<title>By: miroco</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>miroco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the psuedo scientists are almost certainly, statisticaly speaking, of the left persuasion none of them likely think they have done anything wrong. Silly for those of us who actually work to think a few facts might be nice.  Now they may have to figure out a new way to steal, never fear, there will always be an AL who will say anything for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the psuedo scientists are almost certainly, statisticaly speaking, of the left persuasion none of them likely think they have done anything wrong. Silly for those of us who actually work to think a few facts might be nice.  Now they may have to figure out a new way to steal, never fear, there will always be an AL who will say anything for them.</p>
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		<title>By: olddog</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>olddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>between disreputable scientists, and I use the term loosely., and globalists and big special interests. Bribe and coerce through various means , including our elected officials,  to make slaves of the working Smucks, like myself, by taxing us, controlling our every move and telling us they are looking out for us. They do it by fear, and people&#039;s compassion, and our wanting to do the right thing for our children. and then what is extremely infuriating. THEY LIE TO US.. People will sacrifice to do what is right, based on real facts, when we don&#039;t get the real facts we make the wrong decisions. Live Free , investigate everything before you become a believer.
Support Our Troops, 
They have become a political football for this administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>between disreputable scientists, and I use the term loosely., and globalists and big special interests. Bribe and coerce through various means , including our elected officials,  to make slaves of the working Smucks, like myself, by taxing us, controlling our every move and telling us they are looking out for us. They do it by fear, and people&#8217;s compassion, and our wanting to do the right thing for our children. and then what is extremely infuriating. THEY LIE TO US.. People will sacrifice to do what is right, based on real facts, when we don&#8217;t get the real facts we make the wrong decisions. Live Free , investigate everything before you become a believer.<br />
Support Our Troops,<br />
They have become a political football for this administration.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you post one of these again, your life span here will be very brief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you post one of these again, your life span here will be very brief.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomforall</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomforall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL ONE OF THEM ANY HOW THAT&#039;S BEEN A LIAR FROM THE GET GO?
ImpeachBarackObama.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL ONE OF THEM ANY HOW THAT&#8217;S BEEN A LIAR FROM THE GET GO?<br />
ImpeachBarackObama.com</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_in_Fla</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_in_Fla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emails are very relavent in determining the legal ramifications of their lack of ethical behavior.

However, the truly damning thing is that their data is useless.  They can&#039;t make heads or tails of their data or applications, as fully documented in a very large comment file by the poor schmuck that was assigned to recreate the previously published results from their data sets.

He spent 3 years and couldn&#039;t do it.  The best result he acheived was getting within .5 degrees in a small band of the global tempature set.

Think about that, these yahoos want to fleece us to the tune of Trillions of dollars to avert a .7 degree predicted temature increase in 50 years, but can&#039;t get their data sets to produce consistent data any closer than .5 degree accuracy?

The IPCC reports are based in large parts on these data sets!!!

The real scanal isn&#039;t the coverup, its that the Global Warming Alarmists literally have no data to back up their claims.  And this Copenhagen debacle starts in 2 weeks, where they want us all to pony up cash?

I am finding it very very hard to keep within the posting guidelines right now.  I want to launch into a profanity laced tirade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emails are very relavent in determining the legal ramifications of their lack of ethical behavior.</p>
<p>However, the truly damning thing is that their data is useless.  They can&#8217;t make heads or tails of their data or applications, as fully documented in a very large comment file by the poor schmuck that was assigned to recreate the previously published results from their data sets.</p>
<p>He spent 3 years and couldn&#8217;t do it.  The best result he acheived was getting within .5 degrees in a small band of the global tempature set.</p>
<p>Think about that, these yahoos want to fleece us to the tune of Trillions of dollars to avert a .7 degree predicted temature increase in 50 years, but can&#8217;t get their data sets to produce consistent data any closer than .5 degree accuracy?</p>
<p>The IPCC reports are based in large parts on these data sets!!!</p>
<p>The real scanal isn&#8217;t the coverup, its that the Global Warming Alarmists literally have no data to back up their claims.  And this Copenhagen debacle starts in 2 weeks, where they want us all to pony up cash?</p>
<p>I am finding it very very hard to keep within the posting guidelines right now.  I want to launch into a profanity laced tirade.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitesands</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitesands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British press should wake up. No wonder PM Brown looks so nervous and has tried to get the world on board with climate change agreements. Cap and Trade If passed this system will be the new piggy bank for out of control government spending. The out of thin air market based on junk science will create the next financial bubble over time.

CATO on power “Only the checks put upon magistrates make nations free; and only the want of such checks makes them slaves. They are free, where their magistrates are confined within certain bounds set them by the people … And they are slaves, where the magistrates choose their own rules, and follow their lust and humours; than which a more dreadful curse can befall no people … and therefore most nations in the world are undone, and those nations only who bridle their governors do not wear chains”.

Small local government is easily checked.
Category: energy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British press should wake up. No wonder PM Brown looks so nervous and has tried to get the world on board with climate change agreements. Cap and Trade If passed this system will be the new piggy bank for out of control government spending. The out of thin air market based on junk science will create the next financial bubble over time.</p>
<p>CATO on power “Only the checks put upon magistrates make nations free; and only the want of such checks makes them slaves. They are free, where their magistrates are confined within certain bounds set them by the people … And they are slaves, where the magistrates choose their own rules, and follow their lust and humours; than which a more dreadful curse can befall no people … and therefore most nations in the world are undone, and those nations only who bridle their governors do not wear chains”.</p>
<p>Small local government is easily checked.<br />
Category: energy</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. I didn&#039;t realize one of these SOBs is from my alma mater. I&#039;m going to have to gather some information, but it will have to wait until probably Monday with all the Thanksgiving people we are expecting and the work I need to get done around the house, but now we can strike back, and hard.

I was once told that if a lawyer screws you over, you don&#039;t try to file criminal or civil charges against him, you file it with the ABA because they need to be &quot;members in good standing&quot; to continue practicing. The same thing applies to researchers. You file the grievances about them committing scientific fraud with the University where they work, and the journals where they have published their work. The journals in particular are required to investigate the charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. I didn&#8217;t realize one of these SOBs is from my alma mater. I&#8217;m going to have to gather some information, but it will have to wait until probably Monday with all the Thanksgiving people we are expecting and the work I need to get done around the house, but now we can strike back, and hard.</p>
<p>I was once told that if a lawyer screws you over, you don&#8217;t try to file criminal or civil charges against him, you file it with the ABA because they need to be &#8220;members in good standing&#8221; to continue practicing. The same thing applies to researchers. You file the grievances about them committing scientific fraud with the University where they work, and the journals where they have published their work. The journals in particular are required to investigate the charges.</p>
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		<title>By: larueladue</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>larueladue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad there are not more like him in the UK and the US.</description>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2009/11/23/how-does-knowledge-accumulate-when-the-scientists-all-lie/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with a scathing assessment of the crime.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/viscount-monckton-on-global-warminggate-they-are-criminals-pjm-exclusive/

H/t climatedepot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with a scathing assessment of the crime.</p>
<p>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/viscount-monckton-on-global-warminggate-they-are-criminals-pjm-exclusive/</p>
<p>H/t climatedepot</p>
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