We must boost domestic energy production now


I hope that Speaker Pelosi’s recent letter to President Bush urging him to draw down oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve signals her recognition that the solution to today’s high energy prices is to increase supply in the market. Possibly she realizes that supply really does affect the price consumers pay at the pump, and that would be progress, but I don’t share her optimism that releasing “a small portion” of SPR oil would noticeably affect either world oil markets or the price of a gallon of gasoline.

What’s likelier to do the job is an end to the ban on exploring for oil off America’s own shores. The ban on drilling in the same Gulf that’s open to Venezuelans, Indians, Vietnamese and Cubans never made much sense except as a political barricade erected by anti-oil environmentalists in and out of Congress. Now that the president is voiding the old executive order, I hope the Democratic leadership can figure out a way not to automatically talk themselves into the kind of frenzied opposition that prevents real action to lower gasoline prices.

This used to be the sort of Washington spat that made drivers shrug, but hardly anybody’s shrugging since gasoline got to $4 a gallon. The president’s decision offers an opportunity for the speaker to be part of the solution, and I hope she will not simply reject it again because she’s a Democrat and the president is not. What’s happened lately isn’t encouraging. Whenever the issue of gasoline prices comes up, the speaker calls offshore exploration a hoax and reflexively pretends that evil producers are sitting on an ocean of oil under leases they already hold. Smirking and sneering when producers aren’t willing to spend millions to drill dry holes is propaganda, and the only hoax is that the speaker wants them to drill where the oil is not instead of where it is.


In contrast, the more environmentally conscientious countries in the world—from Scandinavia to Japan—have no qualms about developing their own energy resources, including in the waters off their own coasts. They understand the basic reality that withholding oil and gas will not alter world demand. Withholding oil may only displace production to countries with lower environmental standards than our own.

The “severe energy price crisis facing millions of Americans,” referenced in her letter compels congressional action. Here are just some of the bills that would do the job:

  • Access OCS – (H.R. 6108; H.R. 3089; H.R. 6001)
  • Access ANWR – (H.R. 6107; H.R. 3089; H.R. 6001)
  • Alternative Fuels for Defense and Aviation – (H.R. 6131)
  • Boutique Fuels – (H.R. 2493)
  • Coal-to-Liquids – (H.R. 2208; H.R. 6001)
  • Develop Oil Shale Resources – (H.R. 6138)
  • Repeal Section 526 of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 – (H.R. 5656)
  • Building Refineries – (H.R. 6139; H.R. 2279; H.R. 3089; H.R. 6001)

It seems to me that Americans want more energy production here in America, and the speaker might now choose to let the will of the American people prevail by permitting the House to vote on whether we will allow more American energy supply.

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, is the ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee


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Thank you for providing the bill numbers Congressman

Brian Simpson (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 2:10PM EST (link)

Now we know which bills to urge our Congressional delegates to support.

Please keep hammering home this issue. The future of our energy policy (and economic stability) is dependent on it.


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Amen Brother...

TimB52 Monday, July 14th at 2:16PM EST (link)

but I doubt M. Speaker realizes any of the above.

The next day she said: “This call for drilling in areas that are protected is a hoax, it’s an absolute hoax on the part of the Republicans and this administration”

What a bunch of hypocritical rubbish.

$20 says nothing happens until after elections.

 

Thank you, Congressman

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 2:18PM EST (link)

You are correct, this is an issue that is at the front of most American’s concerns right now. At this point, my concern is that the House leadership is going to do everything possible to obstruct the progress on these pieces of legislation.

It is my sincere hope that the Republican leadership has plans to reach out directly to the people, to raise awareness of this issue, when progress is not made. Under the current leadership, only intense public pressure will force them to act in our interests.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 

well said....55555....n/t

TimB52 Monday, July 14th at 2:25PM EST (link)

Bush's Solution

BigGator5 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 2:36PM EST (link)

I know this is a little off-topic, but in 2006 I made this little thing lampooning Bush’s energy plan:

Bush’sEnergy Solution (SFW)

Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)
@biggator5

 

What is our response to Pelosi's assertion?

tankertodd (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:15PM EST (link)

The Nancy tells the President that Big Oil already has plenty of land to drill on. What is our response? Why can’t more oil be drilled on these pre-existing leases?

I also saw a comment in the press that drilling for more oil is pointless without additional refinery capacity. Are we maxed out there? I hadn’t heard that we were.

Thanks!

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I think Vladimir is the one to ask this question

Brian Simpson (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:32PM EST (link)

He’s the oil insider and can explain the leases better than anyone I’ve seen so far.


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Perfect demonstration of Democrat priorities

Next93 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:34PM EST (link)

Am I the only one who remembers that the “S” in SPR stands for “strategic”? As in, if we have to go to war suddenly, we have the oil reserves to run the military without imports for at least a short time.

The idea that the D’s want to draw down that rather than drill is a perfect demonstration of how the donks value environmentalism over national defense.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

 

Perfect demonstration of Democrat priorities

Next93 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:34PM EST (link)

Am I the only one who remembers that the “S” in SPR stands for “strategic”? As in, if we have to go to war suddenly, we have the oil reserves to run the military without imports for at least a short time.

The idea that the D’s want to draw down that rather than drill is a perfect demonstration of how the donks value environmentalism over national defense.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

oops

Next93 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:36PM EST (link)

still getting the hang of the new site. Sorry

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

Don't forget

Fedaykin Monday, July 14th at 3:45PM EST (link)

That Bush supported opening the strategic reserve in response to high gas prices back when everyone was appalled gas had jumped to $2/gal. Both sides have used this issue for political expediency.

______________________
Out with the Oak King.

A holistic program is necessary

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:51PM EST (link)

As McCain said it: put everything on the table and study and discuss.

Refinery capacity, fiscal incentives, environmental protection, investment, impacts on world oil prices, response of OPEC and all other issues/factors should therefore be tackled in a combined technical, economic and financial framework.

Oil development program should also be correlated and be made consistent with other programs, including efficiency, conservation, renewables, fuel switching, etc.

Main Problem:

The major problem now is our own Candidate: Senator McCain must reverse his position on ANWR now. Time is running out.

 
 
 
 

Dear Congressman: A Proposal - Walk to Work With Mme Speaker Day

streetwise (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:54PM EST (link)

Since it is important to lead by example, the GOP can engage in a bipartisan venture by having a walk-to-work day.

This would save energy, reduce CO2 emissions, provide good cardio and give Congress insight into the choices the masses are facing.

Just a thought!

 

What do the Democrats Want?

woodsman (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 3:55PM EST (link)

My first post here, so be gentle with me if I make a mistake, please.

Not too long ago I seem to remember the Dem’s asking Pres. Bush to divert the oil so that it did not go the SPR, and now they want to pull more oil out!

As noted above, I would think strategic means something different than useful for political convenience or a quick fix.

It is a sad state of affairs when ideology and the desire to control the legislation is being determined by a party who think we the people work for them and not the other way around.

I feel the answer lies within the free market ability to respond to this development with little or no government control. We need less government, and not more. Government should simply clear the way.

And, I might add… Any oil drilled and supplied from US sources should stay in the US first, then secondary markets as appropriate. I don’t think this is protectionism; it’s cover your own bases first. And one more point, if I may… Drilling and energy sources (new or recoverable) could end up being a driving force by benefiting the economy.

 

Dear Congressman: A Proposal - Walk to Work With Mme Speaker Day

streetwise (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 4:02PM EST (link)

Since it is important to lead by example, the GOP can engage in a bipartisan venture by having a walk-to-work day.

This would save energy, reduce CO2 emissions, provide good cardio and give Congress insight into the choices the masses are facing.

Just a thought!

I'll get to it when I can.

Steve Maley (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 4:02PM EST (link)

Old diary on RS 2.0 addressed the issue — suffice it to say for now that there are no large prospects left in the shallow waters off LA, TX, MS & AL.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

 
 

Oil reserves

alajer Monday, July 14th at 4:31PM EST (link)

The democraps want to draw down the oil reserves as a way to stop any action on Iran. To a Democrap there is always an ulterior motive, always. They also want to keep oil prices up by not drilling refining etc. The high paying jobs that would be created both by drilling and refining would be a boon to the economy, can’t have that now can we.

 

drilling

KBDay (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 4:39PM EST (link)

I talk to a lot of people because of my work, and Dem and GOP voters want to drill.

It’s my personal opinion that an intent to wisely use our natural resources (the definition of conservation before the real conservation movement was usurped by leftistas) by drilling responsibly would have an impact on prices. If there’s even a hint of additional supply, my gut tells me the price will budge even if it’s a small budge.

Pelosi and company are the best reason I can think of to urge people to vote for McCain. If our current Congress has a liberal Democrat at the helm, we are in even bigger trouble than we are in now.

Anybody notice the trouble came after the DNC assumed control of Congress? Things were pretty good up until November.

best, Kay

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I'm Not Buying It

rj1913 Monday, July 14th at 5:06PM EST (link)

You’re absolutely correct. No one is shrugging the $4 a gallon. What an opportune time to make Big Oil more profits while cashing in politically on this hoax. With the recent announcement that the Saudis would release more oil and the lower consumption of the US, all we’ve seen is record high crude prices. Why would a 10 year down the road investment do any better? Why is the magic wand suddenly potent when just a month ago, Bush declared “There is no magic wand to wave right now”? The only reason most Americans support this nonsense is because they are being bleed at the pumps and can easily be suckered in to whatever glimpse of snake oil someone wants to sell them. The only thing this will do is make a ton of money for the already wealthy while doing nothing for the less well off, which is pretty much the hallmark of the Bush Administration. Which by the way (and this to me is the sad part) is why American voters are electing Democrats.

Lefty talking points

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 5:12PM EST (link)

Boy, do you have them down pat. Troll

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Outrightly Illogical!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 5:16PM EST (link)

Because the Big Oil will profit, you won’t “buy it”! May I ask from whom you are buying your gas at present?

Notwithstanding the obvious hyporcrisy, haven’t you thought of the “jobs” that will be created immediately by such program?

Please don’t answer back. I’ve had enough.

RS not troll-free?

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 5:26PM EST (link)

Is this part of the technical problems being solved by our friend Erick and company?

 
 
 
 

Don't forget alternatives

Ahmed Monday, July 14th at 5:38PM EST (link)

As a member of the Team McCain Coalition on Energy Alternatives, I wholeheartedly agree that domestic drilling is a necessary step in reducing dependence on other countries for our energy needs. It’s not like ANWR is a national park where people go camping and hunting anyway.

But I think as this tv ad from Senator McCain’s website points out, we must also consider alternative energy sources like wind power.

Unfortunately no one wants windmills in their backyard (the old “NIMBY” problem), so I propose a bold solution: why don’t we locate windmills in the ANWR region and off-shore? Besides solving the nimby issue, these remote clean sources will provide power more quickly than drilling alone (liberals are fond of pointing out that oil from ANWR won’t make it to the domestic market for at least five years, but the wind power would be available almost immediately). There’s no reason we couldn’t forge on with drilling AND use alternative sources like wind power and nuclear power in these remote locations, thereby reducing our dependency on foreign oil all the more quickly.

My car doesn't run on wind

scottbomb (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 5:53PM EST (link)

I’ve got no problem with wind generating electricity but I can’t put it in my tank.

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You can put electric in your tank

Ahmed Monday, July 14th at 6:02PM EST (link)

You can put electric in your tank if you drive a cool car like the Tesla. It’s the quickest way to deprive our enemies abroad of the funds they get from oil profits.

 
 
 

Thank you congressman one question why isn't this a pitchfork we are tossing democrats onto ?

Joliphant (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:04PM EST (link)

There are so many examples of their heads being up their backsides on this. There is even the recent Shumer eruption with him getting visibly upset about being pressed on this point. Yes when he isn’t destroying banks he is destroying our energy policy. Pelosi and Reid are both repeatedly on the wrong side of this. The democrat messiah Obama is so far off in left field in this he would have to run a marathon to get back to center on this.

I appreciate your promoting this but why isn’t the RNC/Congressional/Senate comittees doing more on this.


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Hey, cool, I can use my button for the 1st time on RS3

Bill S (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:08PM EST (link)

Idiot!

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Plenty of BIMBYs

moderich (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:11PM EST (link)

Wind turbines serve reservation, state
Journal Editorial Board, Rapid City Journal, July 14, 2008

Pine Ridge Indian Reservation joined the growing list of wind turbine sites in the state last week with the installation of its first wind turbine. Pine Ridge and the state’s other reservations have a unique opportunity to develop wind energy in South Dakota because they can produce more energy than they need on site and they have the need for the economic development. And while the development of wind resources on Pine Ridge is clearly good for the reservation, it’s also good for the state.

  • Construction starts on Thumb’s second wind farm
    The Bay City Times, July 14, 2008
  • Wind win situation: Asset is sweeping down the plains
    The Oklahoman, July 13, 2008
  • Maine’s western mountains to be site of $270M wind power project
    AP, July 13, 2008
  • Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and blood-thirsty, in their own regions the Wahhabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account” – Winston Churchill, 1921

     

    My prediction

    scottbomb (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:23PM EST (link)

    As soon as oil companies get ready to drill, there will be a mad dash to find “endangered species” in every spot.

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    Not Enough

    mobius2702 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:24PM EST (link)

    Until I can drive 300 miles and then stop & recharge my battery in the time it takes me to run in a grab a soda, the Tesla is useless to me.

    I so do love that button! n.t

    Brian Simpson (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:43PM EST (link)

    n.t


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    Actually,

    Fedaykin Monday, July 14th at 6:43PM EST (link)

    I did some Google News searching and can’t find the stories I’m referring to (it sometimes takes time to locate news 8-ish years old). However, I’m finding a lot about Congressional Republicans pressuring Clinton to release oil from the strategic reserve to combat rising prices a decade ago. So regardless, my point stands that both sides have tried to use the SPR for political expediency in the past.

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    Out with the Oak King.

     
     
     
     

    Tap ANWR and tap Gov Palin as VP

    gscc Monday, July 14th at 6:45PM EST (link)

    There is no doubt that drilling and energy independence will resonate with America this election cycle. Picking Governor Palin of Alsaska as VP will emphasize this and she has the credibility on this issue that McCain does not. It is also time to put the old guard behind us. These are those that squandered the Reagan legacy and led the conservative movement to the point it is today. New blood!!!!

    What is different about Pelosi's

    phred (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:46PM EST (link)

    recommendation of using the SPR than any other anti-American angle. It always boils down to tying one US hand behind its back.

    Liberalism: Equally shared misery.

    Fav question

    Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:46PM EST (link)

    Because the answer is so easy.

    Dems want to do nothing.

    Reference:

    *Library of *do-nothing Democrat-run *Congress *with 9% approval rating.

    Looking forward to it

    stickler88 Monday, July 14th at 6:46PM EST (link)

    Perhaps you could also shed some light on the current state of profit margins in domestic refining as related to the current and future crude markets.

    My understanding is that the stigma of “Big Oil” arises due to huge profit-taking on extraction to market, yet they actually make very little at the consumer to pump level.

    There has to be a missing piece here, because otherwise there doesn’t seem to be a compelling business reason to invest in new refineries.

     
     
     
     

    Go Nuke!

    cbollesjr Monday, July 14th at 6:51PM EST (link)

    The cheapest form of energy (electrical by kWh) is nuclear. Wind is 7 times more expensive. France gets 80% of it’s electricity from nukes. The only major nuke disaster was Chernobyl. We burn a lot of fossil fuels on electricity, so lets put in a bunch, I mean a bunch, of nuke plants and tell the little green people (who are red in the middle) to go save a snail. Maybe with abundant cheap electrical power then the city folks can drive their little golf carts and the people like me will still be able to take our five kids in an SUV. If we really get serious, we should use the nukes to convert water to Hydrogen, then pipe it over (we’d have to take over some existing lines) the US and give an incentive for stations to build H dispensing units. Cars will go on hydrogen and they are already doing this in Sweden. Then lastly, we can all moon the enemies we pay daily as there only cash generator turns to a black ooze they can sell to Zimbabwe.

    We need to attack this from all angles, but we need to attack it now since the problem is not going away and as long as we listen to the nonsense from the DC elitists we will continue to have high energy prices, instability in the mid east and a well funded and emboldened enemy determined to kill us.

    …Lean not on your own understanding…

    Second

    Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:53PM EST (link)

    the motion.

    Second

    Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 6:59PM EST (link)

    the motion.

    But:

    Strengthen output-based R&D on the waste disposal, nuclear safety, and modern techs including nuclear fusion reactor system; and,

    Link this sub-program into the overall national energy program.

    Second

    Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 7:02PM EST (link)

    the motion.

    But:

    • Strengthen output-based R&D on the waste disposal, nuclear safety, and modern techs including nuclear fusion reactor system;
    • Develop efficient electric cars/vehicles; and,
    • Link them with other sub-programs to form a doable and result-oriented overall national energy program.

    It's not that simple

    Fedaykin Monday, July 14th at 7:08PM EST (link)

    There are two issues you need to consider in placing wind farms for generating power: wind potential and sustainability. Wind potential is kinda like the wind equivalent of an annual rainfall map. Here’s a wind potential map of the US:

    http://rredc.nrel.gov/wind/pubs/atlas/maps/chap2/2-01m.html

    I’ll agree with you that Alaska would be a good place to locate wind farms in terms of wind potential, but the challenge is that these turbines need a lot more maintenance than I think you expect- maintenance that involves climbing to the top every few weeks and rappelling down the exterior to clean it, check the structural integrity, etc. I’m not sure that’s going to be possible in northern Alaska for half the year.

    The next problem you have with wind power, or any kind of power, is disbursement. Oil can be shipped from Alaska by making a pipeline. While the trans-Alaskan pipeline had some engineering issues, the project is, in essence, a pipe. If you’re generating electricity up in the Great White North, you need to build transmission lines all the way down to, at least, southern Canada. This isn’t particularly helpful for seriously curtailing our country’s power generation as most power consumption in the US is east of the Appalachains and west of the Rockies. While superconducting high power lines have been successfully created, they’re like plasma TVs a decade ago- the infrastructure isn’t in place yet to make them affordable or available on a large scale.

    It’s a big project even if you ignore the engineering hurdles, just look at the sheer scale of the project. If you’re talking about moving enough electricity from Alaska to the lower 48, you need to run transmission wires on a massive scale. You need to handle the technical hurdles of building these structures through several thousand miles of mostly winderness, meaning you need to bring in from the outside all your tools, materials, contractors and for that matter food and sleeping accomodations for your workers as I’m sure any local accomodations will be overrun by the amount of people needed for this. Then there’s the political hurdles of running at least part of this project through Canada.

    Solar-thermal plants in the Southwest are a far better way to go in many ways, which I’d gladly outline if anyone wants.

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    Out with the Oak King.

    Wind in ANWR

    Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 7:25PM EST (link)

    Like oil, wind resource is site-specific.

    The proposed oil drilling area is actually a very small acreage of sliver near the shore. Environmental impact to ANWR’s natural heritage is nil.

    I haven’t heard of ANWR as a good site for wind resources. The state of Texas hosts several of the best wind sites in the world. Besides, ANWR is too far from the main load centers in Alaska. The cost of power transmission lines will surely be prohibitive.

    That's true...

    woodsman (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 7:34PM EST (link)

    But why are they doing nothing? There has to be some reason that benefits them.

    When people start to believe government (or more of the same) is the solution, then we have a more serious problem… and that is what I think they want.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Comprehensive plan needed

    woodsman (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 7:55PM EST (link)

    Being somewhat of a novice with energy infrastructure and economics it seems this issue requires a multi-pronged approach.

    Just the fact that we could start to drill and do more than talk about it should take some pressure off of the market.

    Add in a meaningful conservation plan that addresses more than cafe standards also. We need electricity conservation to take some of the load off of the grid and to gain capacity for future growth.

    Add some nuke plants in areas where the demand is required. This might be considered as a distributed scope. Put in wind where it’s applicable (where the source is most constant). Solar in the southwest.

    Expand the grid to pick up the new power sources. Work on demand reduction (kW, not just kWh). By trying to mitigate the demand reduction the need for gas turbine peakers could be reduced. That would save some natural gas.

    Geothermal for air conditioning systems is one way to minimize the demand, because the heat sink is now the earth (much cooler) than the ambient air in the summer.

    Can these issues be solved? Sure. Someone just has to get out of the way!

    Been meaning to ask

    Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 8:17PM EST (link)

    about the platforms in the gulf. I heard that many of them are still offline. Is this true, and if so how much capacity is still offline?

    “If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

    Nukes are a bridge technology, at best

    stickler88 Monday, July 14th at 8:19PM EST (link)

    A very expensive, 50 year(tops) bridge bedeviled by the same basic flaw as petroleum: the fuel is non-renewable given the current technology.

    This would be exacerbated by the simple fact that we’d have to build several hundred plants to catch up with France’s ratio as per the oft-cited example.

    Would it be worth it anyway? That’s for the free market to decide provided they have the wiggle room and foresight for future adaptations.

    Perhaps we must agree to disagree.

    KBDay (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 8:35PM EST (link)

    I’ll bite. You mention more profits for “Big Oil?” Consider the jobs that would be created in addition to the very likely drop in prices if we unshackle our own resources.

    Why would a 10-year-down-the-road investment do any better? Because for one thing, we would be taking a tangible step to increase our own oil supply. Note that while this is ongoing, we would ideally be furthering perhaps even perfecting more viable methods for energy. Consider this: what if, 10 years ago, we had taken this step? Or even 5 years ago? And you simply can’t blame big oil or Bush (I know that’s the politically correct thing to do, among the “thinkerati” as I call them) for all of this. Iran’s instability and threats, emerging consumer classes in India and China, internal strife in areas such as Nigeria–do you dispute those factors count heavily in the dilemma we confront at present?

    I don’t see this as a magic wand. I see it as a step–a very small step–to beginning a solution. Drilling+refining and perfecting alternative sources+conservation. A mix of common sense approaches.

    If the wealthy make more money, I haven’t a problem with that. We all have as much wealth as we are willing to barter our personal resources and freedoms for. I will never be wealthy. I am not willing to focus in a money-centric way. But this is the US and those who want to accrue wealth have the right to do so as long as it is done legally. I do not understand envy of wealth. My mother always says we get exactly what we want in the long run. She is very smart lady.

    Finally, it’s a complete fallacy to say Bush has done nothing for the less well off. Among his tax adjustments is the revocation of the marriage penalty, an act that benefits many including my own family. His refusal to prostrate himself to global warming alarmists has also held off much of the mayhem with oil we are experiencing today and has assisted in keeping a commodity every one of us needs in abundance. Compare that to Carter.If you lived through that presidency, you understand what I am saying.

    And yes, many American voters did vote for Democrats. I did not. I predicted this state of affairs when Congress changed in November, assured that politicians like Pelosi and Reid would do exactly what they have done: ensure inefficiency, continue to divide the body politic and attempt to enforce standards on us they do not abide by themselves.

    It’s also my opinion Democrats succeeded in November because the powerful media machine assisted in that regard. The DNC is the queen of political manipulation.

    That’s my take. And I appreciated reading your own. best, Kay

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    Was going to mention it myself.

    Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:04PM EST (link)

    It isn’t the “economic petroleum reserve.”

    I find it hard to believe we could have enough “in reserve” to make a price difference, anyway.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    That's OK.

    Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:06PM EST (link)

    If they’re that obvious it will only help us and hurt them.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    5, Woodsman. Just to comment on

    Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:28PM EST (link)

    this:

    Any oil drilled and supplied from US sources should stay in the US first, then secondary markets as appropriate. I don’t think this is protectionism; it’s cover your own bases first. And one more point, if I may… Drilling and energy sources (new or recoverable) could end up being a driving force by benefiting the economy.

    Although oil is sold in world markets, there could be incentives given for our producers to sell it cheaper here rather than “overseas.” Either tax incentives to buy American or just the fact that shipping costs should be lower could bring the cost to our refineries down.

    That, in turn, could put some downward pressure on world prices. Just the fact of the existence of additional supplies (in the US) should have already broken the upward spiral of higher price expectations. And a revived petroleum industry should indeed be a boon to the US economy.

    So, with your initial entry you got my complete agreement. I think you got a lot right, but what do I know?

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    Snail Darter ring a bell ?

    Joliphant (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:34PM EST (link)

    There seems to be no end to the stupidity on these regulations. Especially seeing as the bar for the enviro nuts seems to be disturb the habitat.

    Disturb the habitat ??? Like that won’t happen if we don’t do anything. If these people really believed in evolution they would welcome the challenge we provide species to adapt.


    “Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.”
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    You mentioned

    Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:41PM EST (link)

    refinery capacity. Are we maxed out there?

    Like you, I hadn’t heard that, and I don’t believe it, simply because it would be at the top of the complaint list if it were true.

    We will be needing more capacity someday soon, but not yet. The need for refining capacity is determined by demand, not supply. And we (at least those of us who have two living brain cells to rub together to generate sparks) know that demand will continue to go up for an indeterminate amount of time.

    Whether we develop our own supply or not, that’s true. If we get expanded US supplies, maybe our own oil companies will find it profitable to reintroduce the idea of vertical integration.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    OK, this is weird - Attention Site Moderators

    Bill S (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 9:47PM EST (link)

    I did NOT POST THIS. WHY is it showing up with MY ID and MY signature?????

    That is bad.

    “It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

    It is bad

    Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:00PM EST (link)

    Looking into it.

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    Thank you

    Bill S (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:08PM EST (link)

    Just in case, I changed my password. It obviously wasn’t malicious, and is undoubtedly some sort of bug. But it could be extraordinarily embarrassing (or flattering, depending on what the other guy posts… :-) )

    “It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

    Strange you should mention the snail darter.

    Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:10PM EST (link)

    My wife was one of those activists who campaigned for the snail darter. We also ended up owning a lot on Tellico Lake, which was formed when Tellico Dam was built in spite of the snail darter. And now she’s a conservative conservationist.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    One for the moderators

    woodsman (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:16PM EST (link)

    Somehow this post was attributed to me recently. I did not make it. I don’t remember who did initially, but i don’t want to take credit for someone elses thoughts.

    Thanks.

    Pelosi's assertion is so ridiculous...

    nod90 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:41PM EST (link)

    …to anyone who knows oil that it is hard to know where to start. Look, oil and other commodities have a long history of being cyclical. There have been a lot of booms and busts. So now that oil is booming, and prices are at record highs, the oil industry is going to warehouse oil until the price crashes back to $10 / barrel. Then they will drill it.

    I don’t think so.

    It makes so much more sense to cash in and get rich when prices are high.

    The oil industry remembers the 70s. Everyone thought oil was running out, and prices were going to keep on going up. It was the era of limits to growth. Around about 1980 prices peaked at about $97 / barrel in today’s money. At the time nobody realized that that was the peak.

    1986 is the year that shaped the outlook of a generation of oil executives. In 1986 the price of oil collapsed to $10 a barrel. Hundreds of thousands were laid off and left the energy industry for good. The survivors remember that very well and many of them believe that oil is cyclical and always will be. There is no way they will pass up a chance to sell oil at over $100 a barrel.

    Subtle caching bug

    Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 10:48PM EST (link)

    I think I just fixed most of the problems it caused (such as yours above is now repaired).

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    Refining capacity is not maxed out.

    nod90 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 11:06PM EST (link)

    More domestic production means that we will import less. Our refining capacity is 17.6 million bbl/day and our imports of crude are around 10 million bbl/day. Refinery utilization is running at 89% which is on the low side for the time of year.

    Tesla costs too much.

    nod90 (Diary) Monday, July 14th at 11:31PM EST (link)

    The Tesla is a small two seater sports car that costs around $90k. It’s not sffordable for most.

    OK here's the deal

    Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:28AM EST (link)

    I fixed what I could, but it’s virtually guaranteed that there are some other mis-filed comments made since we wiped the DB and put this site up.

    We can fix them. We just can’t fix them automatically. Please bring them to our attention if you run into them.

    This goes for all users.

    However this should NOT be happening ever again. There were two separate bugs involved, and I fixed both of them today and tonight.

    thank you for your continuing patience,

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    The windmill sits on top of your car.

    Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:30AM EST (link)

    As you drive, the air turns it, recharging the battery of your electric car as you drive. You just can’t drive through underpasses, under bridges, or over 20 mph.

    Simple. (^:^)

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    Thanks for taking care of it

    Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:33AM EST (link)

    I think if you look back through tonight’s comments, you’ll find at least three others who also spotted incorrectly ID’d comments. Flagstaff is one that sticks in my mind. I know there were a couple others.

    “It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

    Reduce CO2?

    Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:34AM EST (link)

    Distribute 535 plastic bags in Congress.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    For some of us,

    Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:38AM EST (link)

    but not for bs, a search for our own user name can be productive. That’s how I happened to find my own erroneous entry.

    Thanks for fixing it.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    Tesla begat Fisker who begat...

    moderich (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:42AM EST (link)

    The mechanical components of the Tesla won’t change much, but the battery technology has tremendous room for growth. And when it comes to consumer electronics, prices drop quickly as capabilities increase. Already a former Tesla contractor has started another electric car company:


    Fisker Karma Hybrid Sports Car Rollout
    Bill Siuru, Green Car Journal Now!

    Fisker Automotive plans to start delivering its Karma plug-in hybrid sedan in late 2009. The Karma made its public debut at the 2008 North American International Auto Show and the company has already received over 500 orders for the four-door, luxury hybrid sedan.

    The Fisker Karma hybrid sedan

    Fisker says it will reach a full production of 1,250 vehicles per month by the end of 2010, for an annual production of 15,000 Karmas. It plans to allocate more than 50% for European sales starting in 2010. All retailers will be housed in eco-friendly facilities and offer consumers a unique personal approach, including the ability to ask questions via video conferencing with an expert at Fisker Automotive headquarters.

    Beyond the $80,000 Karma, Fisker plans to use Q-Drive technology in other models including lower priced cars with price tags around $40,000.

    Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and blood-thirsty, in their own regions the Wahhabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account” – Winston Churchill, 1921

    And the windmill farms

    Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:47AM EST (link)

    would take up a heck of a lot more space in ANWR (or anyplace, for that matter) than would a producing oil well. The wind farms along I-40 in Texas are far bigger than ANWR, as are the ones near the AZ-southern California border.

    People probably think an acre of land could hold several fans. I think it’s more like one per two acres, and you can’t pack a bunch of them into a square area. They have to be in long lines if the intent is to generate a lot of electricity.

    “The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

    Unfortunately I barely read RS this weekend

    Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 12:57AM EST (link)

    My RS time is spent on the code, not on the fun, heh.

    So I hope people will contact us with all the instances. Just use the contact form, and the Directors can forward to me as needed.

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    Gulf platforms.

    Steve Maley (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 8:54AM EST (link)

    There were something like 100 platforms (and several hundred producing wells) and 10 drilling rigs destroyed by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

    Some of the fields may eventually be redrilled and redeveloped. Many others are history. It all depends on the perception of how much was left at the time.

    The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

    So, pay while our ship comes in?

    rj1913 Tuesday, July 15th at 4:47PM EST (link)

    Thanks Kate for your considerate response. First let me say that I have no issues with anyone or any corporation making money, even if it’s huge money. I’m all for it. I wouldn’t have a problem with a drinking water company making $40 billion a year as long as I’m paying a reasonable price for drinking water. If the water companies had a monopoly and charging $4 a gallon, I would have a problem. If that company is able to use the government to help exploit the consumers in order to make even more money while not doing a thing for me, that doesn’t set well with me either.
    Our resources actually are unshackled. There’s 68 million acres leased that aren’t being drilled along with 80% of the Outer Continental Shelf. It’s estimated that about 5 million additional barrels a day (about 5 times the expectation of ANWR) would be pumped if oil companies would (or would have) drilled what they now have. It’s also a fact that restrictions haven’t kept them from building or upgrading refineries. That’s been their decision alone. Making $120 billion in clear profits per year, it isn’t like they couldn’t afford it. But they just didn’t it. They now want all the gravy. And the selling point seems to be that by giving it to them, it will relieve the price at the pump and somehow break our addiction. That’s utter nonsense. Considering it will be 10 yrs or better before we see this oil and that they’re going to be sinking big bucks into this, why would they be content with returning less profits to their stock holders?
    The USA uses about 25% of the world’s oil consumption but only 1.6% of the world’s supply. Where’s the logic in assuming that we can drill ourselves out of this dilemma? We can’t do it. We can’t change the price of crude by any noticeable amount.
    This isn’t rocket science by any stretch. We saw this same thing in the 70s. We saw it with Enron.
    Perhaps I shouldn’t have taken a jab at Bush. I just think it’s safe to say that he’s pretty much loss all credibility to most people when it comes to doing anything that isn’t corporately advantageous, regardless of how much it hurts working Americans. Now is the opportunity to ween ourselves of oil, not after paying the same or more untill 10 year ship to come in.

    We can't clothe ourselves out of the cold weather crisis

    Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 6:28PM EST (link)

    we call winter, but we put on clothes anyway AND throw logs on the fire.

    BTW, have you read Dickens? Wonder when pollution was worth, when we were roughing it in nature with fireplaces neat the Thames and Big Ben or now?

    hmmmm

    Not to mention the horse dung in the streets and the attendant rats.

    The Congo is waiting…

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    and in the Congo, gamecock

    pilgrim (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 6:43PM EST (link)

    There will not be armies of environmental group lawyers filing legal objections and obstructing the Chinese oil men from setting up their drilling platforms and getting to the oil.


    Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

    We ought to do it all

    Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, July 15th at 6:53PM EST (link)

    and I have no problem with wind mills in my backyard. Its too hot to go outside anyway.

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    Senator McCain's electric car initiative

    Ahmed Sunday, July 20th at 2:09AM EST (link)