Cain’s Kryptonite


Just finished clearing off Fox News Sunday off the DVR.  Three days ago, Herman Cain was on with Chris Wallace and he did a great job.  That is until he revealed his weakness, and I was taken aback.  First off, I like Herman Cain.  He is currently my number two for the GOP nod, anyone who has tangoed with me in the comments sections over the last five years probably knows who is my number one, and I do not want to digress.  Today, I want to talk about Herman Cain’s Kryptonite that he revealed a few days ago on Fox News Sunday.

Herman Cain was weak on understanding the Palestinian and Israeli issues.  He was not wrong in general and what he did say was good, but he let slip that he did not understand some very important points and frankly I was shocked.  I knew more about this issue than he did and that shouldn’t be the case for someone running for President.  If Mr. Cain does not brush up quick on these issues, then he is in jeopardy of getting the reputation Sarah Palin had in 2008 with foreign policy issues.

To keep this diary concise, I will limit the quotes and issues discussed.  The full transcript of the interview is here.  His problem is quoted below with my observation in brackets and emphasis added:

WALLACE: Where do you stand on the right of return?

CAIN: The right of return? [Cain's blank stare due to not sure what the question was about] The right of return?

WALLACE: The Palestinian right of return.

CAIN: That is something that should be negotiated. That is something that should be negotiated.

WALLACE: Do you think the Palestinian refugees, the people who were kicked out of the land in 1948, should be able or should have any right to return to Israeli land?

CAIN: Yes. But under — but not under Palestinian conditions. Yes. They should have a right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make.  Back to — it’s up to Israel to determine the things they will accept. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made it real clear in his statement following the statement that President Obama made. They are wiling to make some concessions. They are willing to give on a lot of things. They are willing to be compassionate.  I don’t think they have a big problem with people returning. The issue is there are some things that they simply do not want to give in on.

I’m glad Mr. Cain did not mess up the gist of the question, but he certainly revealed he has no understanding of the Palestinian Right of Return.  This is a huge problem for Israel, they do not want to give millions of Palestinian refugees the right to return back to Israel.  Israel would cease to be a Jewish state if this was allowed.  We’re not talking about the refugees returning to the new future Palestinian state, but back into Israel.  This is a major point the Palestinians want and Israel is not budging on it.  For Israel, this point is not to be negotiated, and yes, they have a big problem with these people returning back.  I would have thought Mr. Cain understood about this issue.  It is a big part of the unsolved problems in the negotiation.

Needless to say, I hope Mr. Cain studies some of these important issues that are bound to be asked of him in future questions.  I hope he has access to great resources and people that know about these issues.  If not, I hope he may take a few hours and follow some simple wiki links.  Wiki is easy to criticize for not totally being accurate, but at least it would give him a head start on coming up to speed about this important piece of the foreign policy puzzle.

Palestinian Right of Return

Some History of Temple Mount

Some History of Jerusalem’s Dome of the Rock

Understanding Zionism and how there are many factions of it

I’m rooting for Herman Cain and I hope he brushes up and destroys the Kryptonite that is so quickly and easily thrown during primaries.


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Cain has work to do

mspector (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 9:49AM EST (link)

I’m a big fan but I’ve been concerned about the void on foreign policy.

It wasn’t a good sign that he said he would not get into “security” issues until he was in the WH and had clearance to see necessary intel. I get it at one level, but he is going to be in heated debates on foreign policy during the primaries and if nominated in the general election and he really does have to be able to say something. I don’t need to know his opinions on the proper deployment of Seal Team 6: I do need a clear sense that he knows who our enemies are, what the real issues are concerning jihadist Islam and shariah, etc.

Oddly enough, without knowing anything on the right of return he felt his way into it and came up with a more or less OK position: it’s up to Israel to negotiate, and not on Palestinian terms. So his instincts took him in the right direction. But after four years of foreign policy misadventures that can only kindly be described as bumbling we need to know that our candidate has a standpoint on these issues. I suspect Cain will show that, but for now he has some work to do.

“Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” (Thomas Paine)

“A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.” (Ronald Reagan)

mspector, what about this?

lineholder (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 12:32PM EST (link)

I think that Cain could become more assertive on this, presenting a nontraditional candidates viewpoint on who our allies have been traditionally-speaking, what has been taking place to our relationships with those allies during Obama’s term, and how we might go about either adjusting to the shift in allies or rebuilding relationships with those allies in the future.

And I think he could do it a very candid way that would appeal to everyday ordinary citizens.

Just an idea.

 
 

This is not the first time

red_oakster (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 11:16AM EST (link)

Cain messed up a question of Afganistan a few weeks back. He needs to get his act together on these issues soon, or he’s done.

Anybody who wants to win the nomination has to win primaries in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and California. There aren’t enough delegates in Georgia and Alabama to win. Cain can’t keep messing up on foreign policy issues. It’s why Cain is such a long shot (and Bachmann too). The populists can do well in Iowa and they could knock a candidate like Pawlenty right out of the running. However, if that happens, the New Hampshire winner will have a huge advantage over the duration of the campaign. That’s why I expect Romney to everything he can to help either Cain or Bachmann in Iowa.

sorry to do everything

red_oakster (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 11:17AM EST (link)
 

You didn't see the interview on Hannity on Monday night, then?

lineholder (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 11:46AM EST (link)

Cain has already set the record straight on this issue. He let it be known that although he had attempted to prepare for other questions that he believed Wallace might ask him, he hadn’t prepared for the Right of Return question so it caught him completely off-guard.

He followed up to say that he had invested the time since the Wallace interview to learn as much as he could about the issue. His stand is that this is a decision that Israel and Israel alone should make. Not President Obama, any other nation or entity. And he pointed out that the Israeli’s did NOT drive Palestinians out of the country in 1949…they left on orders from leaders in the Arab community at the time, with the intention being that they would be returning when the land was free of the Israelis.

I found his insight on this point to be very instructive, because it means that the Palestinians abandoned the land. Why should they now be allowed the Right of Return to a land they abandoned?

Cain admitting he wasn't prepared puts him

Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 1:03PM EST (link)

way ahead of Obama who’s still pretending he is, or worse believes he is. Not to mention the fact that Cain has the good sense to do the research, ask the right questions, find people who know the issue, and get the right answers. I don’t get the impression that he’s looking for a yes-man which is a stark contrast to Obama. Kinda refreshing not to hear the typical political spin.

At this point, I’m pulling for a Pawlenty/Cain ticket.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)

Concur, RWM52. One thing about both men...

acat (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 2:14PM EST (link)

is that they’ve admitted their mistakes.

Pawlenty has said he was wrong on Global Warming.
Cain has said he was not prepared on Right of Return.

That speaks, to this cat, to who each of them is, at their core. As a combined ticket, they could be unstoppable.

And I’d love to see Cain debate either Biden or Obama… or Hillary, for that matter.

Mew

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Caveat Suffragator

Yes, but,

concap (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 3:35PM EST (link)

Cain’s mistake was do to a lack of knowledge.
And Pawlenty’s was do to a lack of commitment to a core concervative principal.

The Constitution is neither Right or Left, it is American.
You need neither be Right or Left to vote American.
When you vote on the Federal level based on politics, you are voting for a lobbyist to promote your own personal wants and force them on others through taxation and legislation.

FF/FS/SL/RMIL/OK
Fiscal Federal/Fiscal State/Social Local/Retired Military/Oath Keeper

And Cains lack of knowledge....

gekster (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 3:38PM EST (link)

was quickly rectified.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

 

Umm, what core principle are you talking about?

acat (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 4:34PM EST (link)

We’re talking about a governor of a blue state, with a budget dependent on both tourism and agriculture, both of which would be affected by climate change as preached by Al Gore, signing a bill prior to the AGW scam being blown wide open, and walking it back.

The same pass you gave to Cain applies, only the time frame is different.

Mew

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Unless this Reporter is out and out lying,

concap (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 5:55PM EST (link)

Conservatives should not vote for this guy in the primaries.

If she is, can you show me some counter links?

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/Columnists/A_Time_For_Choosing/TIM_PAWLENTY_GLOBAL_WARMING_ALARMIST_STATIST/43629

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There are other things besides global warming in all of these above and below.

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And why does this new plan by Pawlenty and leaders upset me so?

Because it appears that they don’t believe in the principles that make up our party. They have given up in spreading and explain our message to Minnesotans in order to grow the party. Instead,

Pawlenty gets to run around making alliances with Democratic Presidential candidates, and the Republican Party leaders and surrogates do nothing, or worse, lash out at those of us with principles.

And they wonder why the party’s conservative base isn’t growing. They gave up on that idea long ago, and are doing nothing while Pawlenty runs around tearing the base apart

http://looktruenorth.com/limited-government/policy/1215-pawlenty-cozies-up-with-dem-presidential-candidate.html
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“The era of small government is over . . . government has to be more proactive, more aggressive.”
– Tim Pawlenty, 2006.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120373223052387643.html

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The list goes on.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120373223052387643.html

This is why he was elected in a Blue State

The Constitution is neither Right or Left, it is American.
You need neither be Right or Left to vote American.
When you vote on the Federal level based on politics, you are voting for a lobbyist to promote your own personal wants and force them on others through taxation and legislation.

FF/FS/SL/RMIL/OK
Fiscal Federal/Fiscal State/Social Local/Retired Military/Oath Keeper

 
 
 
 
 

Missed the follow up..

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 1:47PM EST (link)

I’m glad to hear Cain worked on resolving the concern so quickly. Although I am not a supporter of the Right of Return, it’s one issue that won’t just go away. As any bargaining chip, Israel can set the pace, but it will definitely come up again whether or not the Palestinians have any sure footing with it. I’m just glad to hear Cain moved quickly as that was what was required.

 
 

Cain will get the "Who's smarter than a 5th grader" treatment for sure.

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 1:52PM EST (link)

Of course the media would NEVER dare question the rock star in chief. Barry would be exposed for the phoney he really is.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

Cage match Deux

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 2:00PM EST (link)

Yeah, I think we’re all hoping to see Barry get pinned in several debates next year. We just need to keep our hopefuls on their toes early so they are totally prepped for every topic.

Among the nominees, Cain is uniquely qualified...

acat (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 2:10PM EST (link)

to debate the Dem nominee, whoever he or she may be.

Most important factor? Cain has been doing the best prep possible – live radio – for some time. This, I think, is why he did so well in the South Carolina Premature Debate – he’s used to thinking on his feet.

Pawlenty did well, he’s obviously a smart guy, and has had more exposure to the issues of actually running a State than Cain has; that said, the governor doesn’t have to think on his feet except during press conferences, and those aren’t daily for several hours.

Mew

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Totally agree.. nt

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 7:49PM EST (link)
 
 

Cage match Deux

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 2:00PM EST (link)

Yeah, I think we’re all hoping to see Barry get pinned in several debates next year. We just need to keep our hopefuls on their toes early so they are totally prepped for every topic.

 
 

Disastrous interview, thank God the main issue this election is economy-Cain’s strong suit

akafroman Wednesday, May 25th at 3:39PM EST (link)

And unless you are Eisenhower, no modern candidate actually understands the nuts and bolts of foreign policy. It is only important that they establish a demeanor.

For instance:

Reagen- I’m going to go John Wayne on you if you don’t release the hostages.

Obama- I’m going to apologize to the world.

still… Cain bombed majorly, and I hope it was a wake-up call

 

Cain'sAnswer

silentcal2012 (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 3:52PM EST (link)

In some ways that answer deflected from the rest of his interview, which was also wobbly. I still don’t understand his answer on the debt. He seems to advocating a plan, then concedes its too late for that plan to work. His defense of the Fair Tax was mediocre. And the whole – I wont have a position on the wars until I get into office is extremely weak.

Smartie answer

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, May 25th at 7:53PM EST (link)

I thought it was a bit too cutsy to be making the point that you’d answer the question once you get all the intel. Although creative, it came across as dodgy to me.

Not dodgy...realistic

Tom Anderson (Diary) Thursday, May 26th at 9:26AM EST (link)

I for one appreciate the fact that Cain is so honest about his lack of the “right” knowledge to come up with a proper plan. He knows that there is intel that only the President sees that could change his viewpoint drastically. I also appreciate that he doesn’t try to look like he knows everything about everything.

That being said, he does need to at least have the seed of a plan, not just say he won’t have anything until he has all the info.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
- Edmund Burke