One good thing about the snow storm


I live near DC (I left in order to get representation in Congress.   I have all Dem reps now.   I’m still waiting).   We got hit with a pretty good snowstorm.    Not as bad as expected but enough to close some schools and businesses.   And Congress.   Yep.   No votes today.   Which means they can’t take anymore of my money for at least one day.   

Of course, the DC schools stayed open.   For the children’s sake, of course.   Not so they can get an education, but because of the high rate of poverty in the District.    Due to the extreme poverty, schools are the only place some kids get a decent meal.   Think about that, the only good food you get is SCHOOL CAFETERIA FOOD.    Once you have all stopped gagging, think about something else.    The schools stay open because that is the solution to caring for these kids.  Instead of coming up with real solutions to poverty, the Dems who control this City through local government and Congress say “let the schools feed the kids.”   Instead of getting folks off the government teat, it risks the safety of kids by keeping the schools open so the kids can get a meal.  

I am not against the kids getting a hot meal at school.   Well, other than I think school food violates several human rights treaties.    But, I am against the idea of this being the ONLY solution for these kids.    The parents should be given the opportunity to learn real skills that will translate into real jobs so they can feed their kids at home.    It is up to the parents to care for their kids, not the schools.    We fail those children if we prevent the parents from doing so by never acknowledging the real situation.



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It isn't the only source. What about food stamps?

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:59PM EST (link)

If they are that low income they can recieve food stamps.

The school are probably open because of $. They need so many days and so many in attendance.

As far as opportunity for better skills, if they are low income they would recieve a a full pell grant and other grants. That covers 100% of community college tuition. Every single library has GED books and basic skill books. There are plenty of opportunities for them to learn a skill right now with the programs that are available..

They should also be recieving the EIC about now if they are employed and low income.

No really

red4ever (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:03PM EST (link)

The reason given is so that the kids can get their free or reduced lunch meal.

Food stamps is still government taking care of you. Plus, you can’t really feed a family decently on them. The kids who get the free meals at school are the ones who parents are on foodstamps.

Yes, there are all those GED books in the DC Public Library. But no one is encouraged to use them because they might learn something. It is better for the Dems to keep these folks dependent on the government and voting for the party of continued dependence than to encourage people to better themselves and become self-reliant.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

 
 

I know that is the reason given

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:17PM EST (link)

but I think the real reason is tied to funding.

Food stamps is still the gov taking care of you. I mentioned them because of you said due to extremem poverty it is the only place they can get a descent meal. That isn’t true, in extrememe poverty parents are entitled to food stamps.
If they are recieving a full food stamp allotment they can feed their family descently on it. You can feed a family descently on them. Look at the full allotments that is probably more than many people not on food stamps budget for the same size family each month.

If they can manage to enroll their child in a public school they have the skills to get to the library. People are not helpless. You are equating low income with being helpess or not ambitious. The problem is those traits, not the income level.

 

Do you really know the allotment for food stamps

red4ever (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:27PM EST (link)

It’s less than $20 a week per person. You really can’t feed a family in a healthy way on that. No fresh vegetables. Lots of cheap rice-a-roni that is very high in salt and fat. You feel full, but you are not getting a good meal.

These people are poor because they bought into the Derm idea of the government will take care of them. So, they see no reason to change or don’t believe they can. They are not aware they CAN change. Maybe they can get to the library, but they don’t know why they should go. “There’s just a bunch of dumb books there.” They don’t know the resources are there because the government they worship never bothers to tell them. It is about the Dems creating a permanent lower class to keep winning elections. They don’t WANT people to know that you can study for your GED at the library. Because then people will do it and get educated and not depend on the government anymore. The entire Democratic agenda is premised on keeping dependent on the government. if people are self-reliant, caring for themselves and their kids, they don’t need big government running their lives anymore. If people don’t need big government anymore, the entire Democratic Party reason for existing disappears.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

The "dumb library books" mentality

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:02PM EST (link)

is not because they are low income though. It’s because they are anti-intelllecutal, lazy or not inquisitive. If the problem is apathy or a lack of industriousness (is that a word? ;) ) that character trait should be criticized. Instead you are creating a victim that isn’t really a victim because of their income level.

the new Book Burning... soon only the current PC books will be at the Libraries....

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:20PM EST (link)

Not either of your points, but since you mentioned Libraries and Books….

The Democrats wouldn’t dare suggest “Banning Books,” they reserve that charge to levy against Conservatives. Meanwhile, under the guise of Environmentalism they are quietly ensuring they can REMOVE those pesky old books that are actually Historically correct! (see Jacksonville News 1/16: New Law Could Keep Books Out Of Reach Of Children only MSM link I came across so far but discussion is out there: Google search of Old Books Hazardous to Children) Once only the Politically Corrected books are left on the shelves they’ll promote getting more people to the Library to learn how they are victims and that only the Democrat Party is their salvation!

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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forgot to close the link loop....

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:22PM EST (link)

Google Search Old Books Hazardous To Children…. another vote to have Preview button back ;-)

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 
 
 

It's around $40 if they recieve the full allotment

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:50PM EST (link)

Nobody makes them buy commerically processed food with it. Rice a roni and prepackaged mixes like that are usually much higher per lb than basic foods like rice and adding your own spcies. At over $5/day each person can have wheat ( .25) 1/2 chicken $2.50), rice (.25), a lb of frozen vegetables $1.00 and fruit $1.00

Dry beans are a great deal for the cost of the protein. Beef knuckles or chicken bones make great soup bases for beans and they are inexpensive too.

I’m sleepy I hope my math is ok up there. ;)

So you know I didn't make it up :-)

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:07PM EST (link)

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/government/FY09_Allot_Deduct.htm

It’s higher for some other areas too.

mom2 -- I'm curious

Uma Richie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:19PM EST (link)

What’s your story? You are an apparent expert on escaping/avoiding poverty, and a staunch normal person (i.e. conservative). I would hit the recommend button for a diary on how you got to where you are.

My successes in life stemmed directly from extreme sacrifice on the part of my parents, so I can’t say I’m self-made. You on the other hand, seem to have pulled yourself up and are doing what it takes to give your son a good foundation.

So I apologize if I missed your diary on this exact subject or if I should just MMOB.

 
 
 

no story

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:58PM EST (link)

I haven’t escaped or avoided poverty. Thank you for the compliment, he is my pumpkin. :-)

here is my book though ;)

I don’t like the way poor or low income is substiuted as blame for bad character traits. (BTW that isn’t an attack on the OP!!!I) It’s usually irresponsibility that cause these extreme problems like hungry children, it is usually not a lack of government resources. The statements like the only meal is at school or we need to programs to so they can get job skills when we have food stamps and pell grants and accessible communiy colleges and public libraries do not make sense.
I always hear a lack of resources, programs, etc and it’s false. There is so much there. If people are apathetic and lazy all the free education and training available will not make a difference. If people refuse to be careful and properly utilitze the resources they are given (like food stamps), more resources are not going to solve that. It’s bad that policians use tha to expand government. If they said the children are not getting enough fruit, their diet mainly consist of rice beans and chicken and whole wheat bread, let’s expand the farmers market vouchers beyond WIC, I would know they were being honest. Saying we need expand this gov program so children can eat is a lie.

Now not everyone is going to continue their academic or vocational education, I’m not saying they are lazy. Some people are unable to attend school because they are very responsible and their duties conflict with school. (Examples would be someone taking care of a realtive’s child to keep the child out of the system, a single mother caring for an elderly parent, a single parent with health problems that can’t work and go to school) What I’m saying is laziness and apathy should be blamed when that is the case instead of “low income” or a lack or resources. I am only familiar with cities, not rural areas, so it might be true there, I don’t know. :)

Someone does not have to be literate to get on a bus and go to the library and let their kids max out their cards. Every library either has or can get a hold of a phonics program on tape like Hooked on Phonics. In the 3 cities I have lived in, the library bookmobile goes into the projects at least 2x per month. They don’t even charge past due fees. In the 3 cities The big main library is usually accessible by public transportation.

There are alot of situations that fall through the cracks. Teens that live with friends/relatives would be one. They don’t have the support of parents or the state. Homeless would be another one. There needs to be a way to give homeless prepared food (pop tarts, crackers, bars, grandola, slim jims, jerky). There is expited food stamps but they are never approved in 7 days. Things like not having a phone number delay them even more. I think churches could really fill in a need there with both of those situations. Those teens need transportation, checking accounts, money to order a birth certificate, information on being emancipated from a legal clinic and someone to co-sign for an apt when they are out on their own. They need money for personal items too in oder to be presentable to apply for a job. I wish someone would write up a bill saying states will waive birth certificate and ID fees if the applicant states the are homeless. Also something that lets banks to waive a chex system flag, and let homeless open up a savings account with no deposit, even if they have chex systems.

I got sidetracked

mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:11PM EST (link)

but what I don’t like the most is how poor/low income automatically = those bad character traits, no common sense, not civil, stupid, immoral, not smart enough to basic things, etc. Those things should be blamed, not poverty or the income level.

Thanks.

Uma Richie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:10PM EST (link)

I appreciate your response. I think my mom always summed it up best when she said, “Soap is cheap,” meaning that poor little boy isn’t filthy because he is poor. He simply hasn’t taken a bath.

I don’t know much about rural poverty, but small towns have some advantages over the cities: People from across the economic strata live within blocks or even doors of each other so dreams of a better life don’t have to be distant. The schools are smaller and have greater economic diversity in their students, which may help bring the standards up some. In a small town everyone seems to have a role. For example, in my town one of the poorest families was known for its superior long-distance runners (and we weren’t even Kenyan!) so being poor wasn’t much of a stigma. The other thing that comes immediately to mind is that neighbors look out for neighbors, sometimes to the point of being busybodies, so even if dad is gone and mom is dysfunctionally alcoholic, someone has an eye out for the kids and calls the caseworker when something goes wrong.

It isn’t ideal. The libraries are small and usually in the next town. There are plenty of welfare legacy families. But somehow, if I had to be poor, I’d rather be in the small town.