Crafty little weasels.
I think I see what is going on here. His staffers have been telling callers for days he is a no vote but will not come out and say so in public. Ask his staffers that if he is a no vote, why will he not publicly say so? The reasons you get should be a lot of fun. Time to upset Pelosi’s apple cart. The same goes for John Tanner as well. These undecideds are not being released because Pelosi is trying to pick off Stupak supporters to give Democratic congressmen in GOP leaning districts cover. This might explain the Zack Space defection and the Chris Carney no to yes switch. Go to work.
PRIORITY #1
Lincoln Davis
John Cooper
John Tanner
PRIORITY #2
Then of course, a modified target list:
Paul Kanjorski (PA-11), Earl Pomeroy (ND-All), Nick Rahall (WV-3), Bart Stupak (MI-1), Marion Berry (AR-1), Joe Cao (LA-2, Republican), Jerry Costello (IL-12), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3), Joe Donnelly (IN-2), Steve Driehaus (OH-1), Marcy Kaptur (OH-9), Dan Lipinski (IL-3), Brian Baird (WA-3), Rick Boucher (VA-9), Jim Matheson (UT-2), Glenn Nye (VA-2)
This is still up in the air. If you can pressure these congressmen into making their public statements now, this could complicate things. There is a lot of jostling going on with who Pelosi would let stay and who she would let go. She wants those Stupak pro-lifers badly.
The way these congressmen have declared, these Democratic congressmen are going to be slaughtered everywhere in this country come November. However, the Rust belt states, the Commonwealth states and the South are where the Democrats are really going to be hit the hardest.
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Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Neil Stevens
Jim Matheson is a NO
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:34PM EST (link)Reported at Hedgehog Report
That must have just come out 'cause FDL still has him as 'undecided'
eburke (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:36PM EST (link)He’s one of the ones that will catch holy hell in his District (R +15) if he votes for this so he probably is way up on their list to get a “Get out of jail free” card.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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Yup, Matheson is big
treeofliberty Saturday, March 20th at 7:19PM EST (link)FDL just announced Matheson’s No vote and now has the NO votes at, with leaners 217(!!!) now OBVIOUSLY it goes without saying that this is still VERY much in the air and Obama/Pelosi are going to be putting all kinds of pressure on those Dems so do NOT stop the pressure/calls/emails but this is a very, very good sign IMO!!
It is my understanding that WE only need 215...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 8:40PM EST (link)Is that TRUE? if so then WE have them RIGHT?
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He is thankful for Sunday Vote no answer at his office.
rcov092 (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 11:12AM EST (link)n/t
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Zack Space and Jim Matheson: That's Big
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:37PM EST (link)If these two are for real and stick, should be big unless there is a major Stupak Block cave.
Good News. Call them and thank them
What's Up With Tennessee? Lets Go Vols...
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:39PM EST (link)whip your boys into shape. There should be of the holy hell the will receive, even if they are retiring.
NO at 216 (now 217 with Matheson voting NO) via Right Wing News
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:41PM EST (link)http://rightwingnews.com/2010/03/less-than-24-hours-to-go-and-they-still-dont-have-the-votes/
Does Fred Have Sway With TN Blue Dogs
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:48PM EST (link)Really. somebody needs to light a fire in Tennessee
Gordon, Davis, Tanner, and Cooper.
Gordon is gone, but two or three of the others would seal the deal.
C’mon Bredesen, or whatever your name is. A Dems Gov is telling his own guys that ObamaCare will bankrupt TN. Maybe he needs to say it louder.
Can someone get Phil to give these idiots a call.
Split the Vote
AndrewHyman (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:52PM EST (link)They could vote “yes” on the first bill and “no” on the second. That would do the job.
A TN or IN defection would be very sweet
treeofliberty Saturday, March 20th at 7:28PM EST (link)indeed!
I can’t believe that a red state like TN has so many pro gov takeover congress critters, if you live in TN PLEASE call these fools non stop!!!
It's OK - All These TN and IN Dems Are Going To Be Gone In About 7 Months (nt)
IJB Saturday, March 20th at 7:34PM EST (link)treeofliberty
tngal (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:42PM EST (link)we have been calling, emailing, faxing and cussing. Even our Lib gov wrote them a letter explaining why they should back off. And our state legislators have got in the act. One cited poor hospitals in the mountain in east tennessee for his yes vote and another, i can’t remember what his girl said. Something about toenail fungus i think Anyway to him it was much more important than the opinion of the majority of TN residents.
Oh man we might be right there.
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 6:49PM EST (link)Initially I thought Space was a cover vote because of his district but with Matheson now I’m starting to get hopeful. Tennesseeans need to go to work on these guys.
Why are we assuming 100% will vote?
Putter (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:21PM EST (link)Like I posted in another thread, where is it cast in stone that they will get 100% participation? a couple abstained during the vote for the rule.
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Very good news if true
mavericktime Saturday, March 20th at 7:03PM EST (link)He would have a hard time voting yes though.
Do you think Pelosi has enough votes and is giving certain people permission to vote no?
Maybe, you can't discount that. But it is so hard to tell.
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:11PM EST (link)What is encouraging is that most of the undecideds left are mostly in heavy GOP areas or are Stupak pro-lifers.
KEEP UP THE CALLS UNTIL THE VOTE.
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:11PM EST (link)Don’t let up!
Can't Figure Out Mike Michaud at ALL
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:15PM EST (link)He’s still holding out. I just thought he was like the others that wanted say that he wanted to read the whole bill and look judicious then come on baord at the end. But that period is over. He is not asking for anything. He is fairly safe in Maine, so I doubt he is just looking for cover.
I dont know, but it seems like there is nothing holding him back other than principle.
Praying for another New England suprise.
Pro Choice Chair signs off on Executive Order (used toilet paper) idea. Will Stupak fall for it?
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:50PM EST (link)Per HHR
Aside from the legal conflicts this would create, Executive orders can be revoked at any time by Obama.
Anybody Understand The Timeline Here?
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:53PM EST (link)Its 8:00 P.M.Est.
I’m going to assume a lot of the critters have left the Capital. Some are probably still there hammering out deals.
But its 8:00 and Pelosi still doesnt have the votes. When does she have to schedule a floor vote. She has to give some kind of advance notice, right?
8:00 A.M., 10:00 A.M., Noon. At what point does a vote tomorrow become impossible and how does that relate to the 72 hour rule.
Ace has CBS report of tentative schedule:
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 8:21PM EST (link)http://ace.mu.nu/archives/299631.php
This must have been the “vote sequencing” Obama referred to in Baird’s interview.
I think they’re trying to obfuscate the fact that the Recon doesn’t go to Obama until it gets through the Senate.
Obama Picked Kansas, and They Lost To Northern Iowa!!!
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 7:55PM EST (link)Anything can happen. Especially when the man behind it is a born loser!!!
CRAP. Nye goes YES apparently
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 8:33PM EST (link)Via HHR
Another Sure Loser in Nov... (nt)
IJB Saturday, March 20th at 8:34PM EST (link)There will be no Virginia Democratic Congressmen after November
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 8:38PM EST (link)That state is going to be pure red.
I will be getting out my checkbook to help that plan along.
Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 9:14PM EST (link)To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher
Nye is a confirmed NO
mike_lawyer Saturday, March 20th at 10:29PM EST (link)A few minutes ago a number of threads on Freerepublic opened on this.
Nye is still undecided, spokesman says AP story is a hoax
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 8:58PM EST (link)http://twitter.com/dnewhauser
Catholic leaders and Pro life groups shoot down Executive Order possibility for Obama
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 9:18PM EST (link)http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTI5MjgwYWFkODM3MTcyMTg0NTkwMDM5NjhhMzE4MzQ=
Well, there goes that route they were trying to bamboozle the pro-lifers with.
There has been MANY reports that Representatives are a Yes....
caseoftheblues Saturday, March 20th at 10:09PM EST (link)…when they are NOT. Lots if misinformation that bolsters Pelosi and Obama out there. Rush was right! If an overwhelming feeling of inevitabilty can be created spineless Dems will cave. I am STILL calling and leaving messages, sending faxes and emailing. Some of them have surveys on their sites. Pound them with CBO saying that TRUE cost with Doc fix ADDS to deficit and the Chief Actuary of Centers for Medicare and Medicaid says Senate bill (before “fixes”-will be higher now) adds at least 222 Billion to cost, additional demands for service difficult to meet, will be price increases, cost shifting and decrease in quality and acessibility….THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE VOTING YES FOR!
Don't believe the democrats.....
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 10:21PM EST (link)In public – many are saying they will vote yes to get Pelosi and Raham off their backs……and to force the final vote.
Once it comes down to it….the demorats will abandon ship and rush back to their districts to say – I did NOT vote YES. And that is all these reps will have to run on. They don’t care about Obama’s support in the fall. No amount of dirty D.C. money will help a rep if they vote yes. Obama will be so toxic that I doubt he leaves D.C. to campaign for anyone – except Fan Nan and Dirty Harry.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Paul Ryan called it the Inevitability Strategy.
joayn (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 10:22PM EST (link)Used to demoralize constituents and legislators.
America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte
Ryan is spot on. Dems have used that tactic for years.
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 10:24PM EST (link)And they will never stop either.
Nye is a confirmed NO
mike_lawyer Saturday, March 20th at 10:28PM EST (link)According to numerous recent postings on Freerepublic and local VA newspapers.