I don’t think so. That would be such an attempt at political suicide that Democrat-Media Complex couldn’t possibly spin their way out of it. I think the President’s just trying to put a bit of fear into the hearts of those who rely on Social Security for a significant portion of their income (and as he amusingly admits, bluffing). But the only way that the Social Security Administration will fail to issue checks next month is if the Treasury actively chooses to do so.
The whole piece from the Wall Street Journal is worth reading, but here are the important details:
Congress spent these surpluses[CR: from 1984 to 2009], and the U.S. Treasury issued the Social Security Trust Fund special bonds, which can be redeemed whenever the Social Security system has a current account deficit. In 2010, the Social Security system ran its first current account deficit since 1983, and for the first time since the reforms the deficit was covered by redeeming Trust Fund bonds.
By law the Treasury is bound to redeem any bonds presented to it by the Social Security Administration. And when the Treasury does, total government debt subject to the debt limit falls by the amount of the redemption—thus freeing up the Treasury’s ability to issue new bonds equal in amount to the redeemed Trust Fund bonds.
In other words, Social Security bonds can be redeemed, and Social Security payments made, without raising the debt ceiling. Thomas Saving asks the logical follow-up question:
If issuing Social Security checks does nothing to immediately affect the debt limit, how is it possible that Social Security would be at the top of the expenditure cut list?
The reason is simple and stems from the constitutional question that arose from a federal program in which all citizens were required to participate. In Helvering v. Davis (1937), the Supreme Court upheld Social Security’s constitutionality because “The proceeds of both [employee and employer] taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal-revenue taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way.”
As a result, the federal government can apply the revenues collected from Social Security payroll taxes, and the income taxes collected on benefits collected from higher-income individuals, to any government liability.
So, when the president says that thanks to the debt ceiling “there may simply not be the money in the coffers” to send out the $20 billion in August Social Security checks, he either does not understand the way the system works, or the administration intends to spend the money on something else.
Emphasis mine. The only way that Social Security payments are not going to be made over the next few months is if the President and Treasury Secretary choose to radically alter the way that Social Security payroll taxes have been applied for the last 75 years. Please make sure everyone you know understands that fact, and assigns responsibility accordingly.
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
Just think about it for a minute.
Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, July 25th at 2:37PM EST (link)“In Helvering v. Davis (1937), the Supreme Court upheld Social Security’s constitutionality because “The proceeds of both [employee and employer] taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal-revenue taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way.””
That is precisely the reason the Lock Box concept was devised. Social Security checks would go out on time, every time. The money became “earmarked” for them in a way that nobody wanted to to take to the Supreme Court to try to upset the popular applecart.
If the checks aren’t mailed, it will be because of Obama’s choosing to pay something else. Betcha CPB/NPR/PBS will get their checks.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Exactly right, Flagstaff
Christopher Renner (Diary) Monday, July 25th at 5:10PM EST (link)It’s sad that I can almost see Obama thinking he can get away with paying community organizers before Grandma and Grandpa.
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Is it insurance fraud?
ashland_avenue (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 6:33PM EST (link)Look here http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/hist.pdf on Page 31.
In 2010, according to OMB, individual income taxes totalled $899 billion, corporate income taxes $191 billion and Social Insurance and Retirement Receipts $865 billion.
There were also small amounts of exise and other taxes bringing Federal revenues to $2,163 billions.
Last night in his speech, the President said
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Unfortunately, for the past several weeks, Republican House members have essentially said that the only way they’ll vote to prevent America’s first-ever default is if the rest of us agree to their deep, spending cuts-only approach.
If that happens, and we default, we would not have enough money to pay all of our bills -– bills that include monthly Social Security checks, veterans’ benefits, and the government contracts we’ve signed with thousands of businesses.
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Think for a minute about what the President has said.
What if he were president of an insurance company which was collecting premiums and paying claims?
If he one day decided to keep collecting premiums and stop paying claims, that executive might end up charged with insruance fraud.
Is the President really suggesting that he will be taking from the insurance and retirement premiums collected, but not using those funds to pay the claims they are meant to cover?
Like many other Americans, I could use some clarification on this point.
Information on Social Security disbursements for the year is on Page 55.
Text of the address is here
ashland_avenue (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 6:38PM EST (link)http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/25/address-president-nation
lock box has no lock
thetelescope (Diary) Thursday, July 28th at 8:52AM EST (link)The only thing left in the SS lockbox is a bunch of IOUs left by previous congresses. THERE IS NO MONEY!
The iou's may not be real, but
ashland_avenue (Diary) Thursday, July 28th at 7:12PM EST (link)you aren’t doubting the $900 billion tax collections coming in this year for Social Insurance programs are you?
The $2.4 in T-bills in the SS Trust Fund is very much real, and the government can sell those T-bills without raising the debt limit
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, July 28th at 7:25PM EST (link)Which is the entire point of this diary.
The 14th Amendment threat is a head fake. Far more likely they just take the $2.4T from the trust account.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!