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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are starting out fo the big 0 pretty much as they did for Little Willie in 1992 so we could well see Republicans run the table again in 2010...If we can stop the wholesale surrender by the squishes that is currently going on...

more later on that!

Let us pray for a 1994 style landslide in 2010...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are starting out fo the big 0 pretty much as they did for Little Willie in 1992 so we could well see Republicans run the table again in 2010&#8230;If we can stop the wholesale surrender by the squishes that is currently going on&#8230;</p>
<p>more later on that!</p>
<p>Let us pray for a 1994 style landslide in 2010&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peg_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>peg_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain for all intents and purposes IS a Democrat and a whole boatload of us voted for him.  

I agree this will require a major crisis - as it unfortunately always does to get Republicans in power. But we conservatives have ceded the party to Dem Lites and big surprise, real Dems are running the country. 

And I no longer have faith that whatever party is governing, we won&#039;t be in the same mess. The mediocre personalities in politics for the power far outweigh the true public servants as exemplified by Palin, Jindal, DeMint, Coburn, etc. Politics now attracts exactly the mental and moral mediocrities that we DON&#039;T need running things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain for all intents and purposes IS a Democrat and a whole boatload of us voted for him.  </p>
<p>I agree this will require a major crisis &#8211; as it unfortunately always does to get Republicans in power. But we conservatives have ceded the party to Dem Lites and big surprise, real Dems are running the country. </p>
<p>And I no longer have faith that whatever party is governing, we won&#8217;t be in the same mess. The mediocre personalities in politics for the power far outweigh the true public servants as exemplified by Palin, Jindal, DeMint, Coburn, etc. Politics now attracts exactly the mental and moral mediocrities that we DON&#8217;T need running things.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-13</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And will not be for a long time.  The only way the stupid party is going to get back in power is after a massive failure by the Democrats. 

They will now control the patronage, they will control the media and message like never before, They will rewrite the election laws and gerrymander. You can write off all the states in the Southwest after the massive immigrant amnesty.

It will take a major economic crises to unseat them.

Then even if that happens you have to wonder if the new GOP elected officials won&#039;t just morph into democrats the way the last bunch did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And will not be for a long time.  The only way the stupid party is going to get back in power is after a massive failure by the Democrats. </p>
<p>They will now control the patronage, they will control the media and message like never before, They will rewrite the election laws and gerrymander. You can write off all the states in the Southwest after the massive immigrant amnesty.</p>
<p>It will take a major economic crises to unseat them.</p>
<p>Then even if that happens you have to wonder if the new GOP elected officials won&#8217;t just morph into democrats the way the last bunch did.</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rest is GroundSwell.</description>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t want to repeat the mistakes of Cole and Ensign in declaring things a lost cause and sitting back waiting for the hammer to fall...I&#039;ve had enough of that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t want to repeat the mistakes of Cole and Ensign in declaring things a lost cause and sitting back waiting for the hammer to fall&#8230;I&#8217;ve had enough of that!</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;It&#039;s about the Economy stupid&#039;.  

 I recollect a tale about Clinton running reelection for Gov. and failed. He immediately called his father and questioned, &#039;Dad, but I promised roads and infrastructure...and I delivered&#039;. While in office, he ended up taxing the public of AK so much so, that yes, although the pledge of a public servant was filled, the consituents were unhappy. Clinton&#039;s father answered, &#039;Son, the voters don&#039;t care about your roads, your infrastructure. They just care about getting up every morning with food and going fishin&#039;&#039;.

 I sincerely believe this drove Clinton&#039;s thinking. And it was encapsulated by, &#039;It&#039;s about the Economy, stupid&#039;.

 There&#039;s truth to that, in as horrible and twisted as it may be. 

  Obama has a timeline to turn this over. Either Axelrod is supremely confident that this thing can be turned around in two years, that they play the martyr card now to set relative expectations low early and end up gleaming or they are going to miscalculate and will ultimately feel the wrath of the American voter, and their impatience. I tend towards the latter.

 I, for one, am not rooting for our financial fallout for the next two years. But I must admit, with regards to this Adminsitration-elect, I&#039;ll have Schadenfreude running up and down my leg if it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s about the Economy stupid&#8217;.  </p>
<p> I recollect a tale about Clinton running reelection for Gov. and failed. He immediately called his father and questioned, &#8216;Dad, but I promised roads and infrastructure&#8230;and I delivered&#8217;. While in office, he ended up taxing the public of AK so much so, that yes, although the pledge of a public servant was filled, the consituents were unhappy. Clinton&#8217;s father answered, &#8216;Son, the voters don&#8217;t care about your roads, your infrastructure. They just care about getting up every morning with food and going fishin&#8221;.</p>
<p> I sincerely believe this drove Clinton&#8217;s thinking. And it was encapsulated by, &#8216;It&#8217;s about the Economy, stupid&#8217;.</p>
<p> There&#8217;s truth to that, in as horrible and twisted as it may be. </p>
<p>  Obama has a timeline to turn this over. Either Axelrod is supremely confident that this thing can be turned around in two years, that they play the martyr card now to set relative expectations low early and end up gleaming or they are going to miscalculate and will ultimately feel the wrath of the American voter, and their impatience. I tend towards the latter.</p>
<p> I, for one, am not rooting for our financial fallout for the next two years. But I must admit, with regards to this Adminsitration-elect, I&#8217;ll have Schadenfreude running up and down my leg if it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IJB is right in the chances are MUCH more likely that we&#039;ll win open seats rather than the seats of sitting senators.  However, large anti-democrat pulses in the country tend to make Senators retire earlier than expected, especially if their poll numbers begin to slip.

Incumbents however, are not untouchable, as South Dakota proved 4 years ago by ousting Democratic floor leader Tom Daschle.

On a good note though, freshman senators are still relatively easy to defeat, and the Dems have 8 up for election in 2012 in swing states that are winnable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IJB is right in the chances are MUCH more likely that we&#8217;ll win open seats rather than the seats of sitting senators.  However, large anti-democrat pulses in the country tend to make Senators retire earlier than expected, especially if their poll numbers begin to slip.</p>
<p>Incumbents however, are not untouchable, as South Dakota proved 4 years ago by ousting Democratic floor leader Tom Daschle.</p>
<p>On a good note though, freshman senators are still relatively easy to defeat, and the Dems have 8 up for election in 2012 in swing states that are winnable.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/rc/2009/01/13/democrat-electoral-woes-continue-in-northern-virginia/#comment-8</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Colorado is winnable. We might be able to do surprisingly well in Delaware, especially with an anti-Obama mood. Then we could pick up seats in Wisconsin, Washington, and Nevada. Which would reduce the margin to 53-47.

As for the open seats. A combination of a strong Republican year and good candidates should be very helpful. We&#039;ll definitely win Kansas, I think Sebelius is incredibly overrated by the media blockheads. We&#039;ll win Missouri with someone who is a solid conservative like Sam Graves. We can win Ohio with a guy like Rob Portman who&#039;ll be strong in Southwest Ohio. And statewide Florida Dems don&#039;t have much to brag about outside of re-electing Bill Nelson. We&#039;ll beat them in Florida.

Heck, we might even pick up Illinois if the primary is so divisive that backers of the losing candidate refuse to support the Democrat. I don&#039;t think Clinton&#039;s seat is off the map until we know who is appointed. If it&#039;s a dynasty pick, then that seat is also on the table.

And Dems in Republican states may be more vulnerable than we&#039;d think. But a big part of the progress is the attitude that we&#039;ll win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Colorado is winnable. We might be able to do surprisingly well in Delaware, especially with an anti-Obama mood. Then we could pick up seats in Wisconsin, Washington, and Nevada. Which would reduce the margin to 53-47.</p>
<p>As for the open seats. A combination of a strong Republican year and good candidates should be very helpful. We&#8217;ll definitely win Kansas, I think Sebelius is incredibly overrated by the media blockheads. We&#8217;ll win Missouri with someone who is a solid conservative like Sam Graves. We can win Ohio with a guy like Rob Portman who&#8217;ll be strong in Southwest Ohio. And statewide Florida Dems don&#8217;t have much to brag about outside of re-electing Bill Nelson. We&#8217;ll beat them in Florida.</p>
<p>Heck, we might even pick up Illinois if the primary is so divisive that backers of the losing candidate refuse to support the Democrat. I don&#8217;t think Clinton&#8217;s seat is off the map until we know who is appointed. If it&#8217;s a dynasty pick, then that seat is also on the table.</p>
<p>And Dems in Republican states may be more vulnerable than we&#8217;d think. But a big part of the progress is the attitude that we&#8217;ll win.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Between 1992 and 1994, the GOP gained a total of *11* Senate seats. 

But the thing is, all but two of those pick-ups came from open seats, IIRC. 

Defeating incumbent Senators, even in &#039;wave&#039; years, is extremely difficult. 

It&#039;s possible to take out &#039;baby chick&#039; office holders like, back in the day, Wofford of PA, or current people like Burris, and whoever replace Biden and Clinton. 

But defeating entrenched incumbent Senators is extremely tough. Even in a very anti-Dem year, it would be tough to take out more than 2 or 3 Dem incumbents. 

So, unless there&#039;s a sudden wave of Dem retirements (unlikely), retaking the Senate is very, very unlikely in 2010, as scarlos points out below. 

As it is, we&#039;re going to have to waste time and resources defending *our* open Senate seats...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Between 1992 and 1994, the GOP gained a total of *11* Senate seats. </p>
<p>But the thing is, all but two of those pick-ups came from open seats, IIRC. </p>
<p>Defeating incumbent Senators, even in &#8216;wave&#8217; years, is extremely difficult. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible to take out &#8216;baby chick&#8217; office holders like, back in the day, Wofford of PA, or current people like Burris, and whoever replace Biden and Clinton. </p>
<p>But defeating entrenched incumbent Senators is extremely tough. Even in a very anti-Dem year, it would be tough to take out more than 2 or 3 Dem incumbents. </p>
<p>So, unless there&#8217;s a sudden wave of Dem retirements (unlikely), retaking the Senate is very, very unlikely in 2010, as scarlos points out below. </p>
<p>As it is, we&#8217;re going to have to waste time and resources defending *our* open Senate seats&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely possible to win back the house, as many of the Democrats recent gains can be reversed.  The Senate on the other hand is rather unlikely.  Assuming Norm Coleman remains seated, we need to win 9 Senate seats, out of the 16 that are up.  Certain senators like Patrick Leahy are unlikely to be beaten in any event simply due to the partisan nature of their constituents and their longevity, so winning that many is rather improbable.  I&#039;d say it&#039;s possible to take seats in Arkansas, Wisconsin, Washington, Nevada (which would be a huge symbolic blow), Colorado, and Illinois (which would be a bigger symbolic blow).  Connecticut could be in play as well if Chris Dodd&#039;s role in the Obama &quot;stimulus&quot; plan blows up in his face and possibly Hawaii if Daniel Inouye retires.  That&#039;s at most 8 seats, and would wind up with a 50-50 tie which would be broken by Biden&#039;s tiebreaker vote

Retaking the Senate will most likely take place in 2012, as seats in Montana, Nebraska, Missouri, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Minnesota and Wisconsin are easily within reach, and add to whatever we come out of 2010 with.

But in order for this to happen we need to unify as an opposition.  We need another person like Newt to rally the county&#039;s discontent with the Policies of the President and transform that into election results.  Being a presidential election year as well, this would presumably be the GOP nominee, and alot therefore rides on who gets the nod next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely possible to win back the house, as many of the Democrats recent gains can be reversed.  The Senate on the other hand is rather unlikely.  Assuming Norm Coleman remains seated, we need to win 9 Senate seats, out of the 16 that are up.  Certain senators like Patrick Leahy are unlikely to be beaten in any event simply due to the partisan nature of their constituents and their longevity, so winning that many is rather improbable.  I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s possible to take seats in Arkansas, Wisconsin, Washington, Nevada (which would be a huge symbolic blow), Colorado, and Illinois (which would be a bigger symbolic blow).  Connecticut could be in play as well if Chris Dodd&#8217;s role in the Obama &#8220;stimulus&#8221; plan blows up in his face and possibly Hawaii if Daniel Inouye retires.  That&#8217;s at most 8 seats, and would wind up with a 50-50 tie which would be broken by Biden&#8217;s tiebreaker vote</p>
<p>Retaking the Senate will most likely take place in 2012, as seats in Montana, Nebraska, Missouri, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Minnesota and Wisconsin are easily within reach, and add to whatever we come out of 2010 with.</p>
<p>But in order for this to happen we need to unify as an opposition.  We need another person like Newt to rally the county&#8217;s discontent with the Policies of the President and transform that into election results.  Being a presidential election year as well, this would presumably be the GOP nominee, and alot therefore rides on who gets the nod next time.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but we shouldn&#039;t rule out the Senate either...we won 7 seats in the Senate in 1994 after Slick Willy&#039;s bungling as I recall off the top of my head...and we can do so again!  

seven seats wouldn&#039;t win the Senate but it&#039;d sure enough pucker up ole Harry&#039;s carp whole wouldn&#039;t it?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but we shouldn&#8217;t rule out the Senate either&#8230;we won 7 seats in the Senate in 1994 after Slick Willy&#8217;s bungling as I recall off the top of my head&#8230;and we can do so again!  </p>
<p>seven seats wouldn&#8217;t win the Senate but it&#8217;d sure enough pucker up ole Harry&#8217;s carp whole wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Especially now with Republican retirements, the GOP goal should be something modest - gaining 2-4 seats, with the focus being on retaking the Senate in 2012. 

The House, OTOH, is theoretically doable, provided there is a sizable anti-Obama, anti-Dem wave, a la 1994.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Especially now with Republican retirements, the GOP goal should be something modest &#8211; gaining 2-4 seats, with the focus being on retaking the Senate in 2012. </p>
<p>The House, OTOH, is theoretically doable, provided there is a sizable anti-Obama, anti-Dem wave, a la 1994.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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