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	<title>Comments on: Maine Delivers Message to Senators Collins and Snowe</title>
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		<title>By: nycenterright</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were going to guess, and I have no evidence to back this up, but I&#039;d say that just about the last thing on the minds of Mainers on election day 2009 was how senators Snowe and Collins voted on the cloture motion of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in 2006.

Also, given that gay marriage was illegal in Maine in 2006, I don&#039;t see how voting &quot;Nay&quot; on cloture for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage could be perceived as refusing to protect traditional marriage in Maine, since their vote did nothing to affect gay marriage in Maine short of preserving Maine&#039;s right to make gay marriage legal through the appropriate democratic process if it chose to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were going to guess, and I have no evidence to back this up, but I&#8217;d say that just about the last thing on the minds of Mainers on election day 2009 was how senators Snowe and Collins voted on the cloture motion of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in 2006.</p>
<p>Also, given that gay marriage was illegal in Maine in 2006, I don&#8217;t see how voting &#8220;Nay&#8221; on cloture for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage could be perceived as refusing to protect traditional marriage in Maine, since their vote did nothing to affect gay marriage in Maine short of preserving Maine&#8217;s right to make gay marriage legal through the appropriate democratic process if it chose to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Read Chesterton in New Improved Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Read Chesterton in New Improved Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there is no support for homosexuality inside Christianity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Until the 1930 Anglican Lambeth Conference, all protestant  denominations stood united with the Catholic church on the teaching that artificial contraception was a sin.  Once that wall fell for the Anglicans, most other denominations followed.

The point of the above is that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp&quot;&gt;Catholic church warned&lt;/a&gt; at the time that the Lambeth decision would open church doors to what we now know as the &lt;i&gt;&quot;culture of death.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Of course, the Catholic church is now fighting the same cultural battle for souls as were the Anglicans, and the Methodists, and Presbyterians etc. before them.  And we have suffered our cultural casualties with the priest scandals and the attempted hijackings of churches by so-called &quot;pro-choice Catholics.&quot;  But we are engaged in the battle,  we haven&#039;t surrendered.  All of the church&#039;s teaching against promiscuous sex, including homosexuality, is still intact.  The connecting glue is the proscription of artificial contraception which declares that the sex act  is inextricably linked to the marriage bed and the purpose of procreation.  Remove that purpose and you remove any argument not simply against sex outside of marriage, but sex outside of any moral boundaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there is no support for homosexuality inside Christianity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Until the 1930 Anglican Lambeth Conference, all protestant  denominations stood united with the Catholic church on the teaching that artificial contraception was a sin.  Once that wall fell for the Anglicans, most other denominations followed.</p>
<p>The point of the above is that the <a href="http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp">Catholic church warned</a> at the time that the Lambeth decision would open church doors to what we now know as the <i>&#8220;culture of death.&#8221;</i>  Of course, the Catholic church is now fighting the same cultural battle for souls as were the Anglicans, and the Methodists, and Presbyterians etc. before them.  And we have suffered our cultural casualties with the priest scandals and the attempted hijackings of churches by so-called &#8220;pro-choice Catholics.&#8221;  But we are engaged in the battle,  we haven&#8217;t surrendered.  All of the church&#8217;s teaching against promiscuous sex, including homosexuality, is still intact.  The connecting glue is the proscription of artificial contraception which declares that the sex act  is inextricably linked to the marriage bed and the purpose of procreation.  Remove that purpose and you remove any argument not simply against sex outside of marriage, but sex outside of any moral boundaries.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to run against either of them?  Because if there&#039;s nobody waiting in the wings to run, the idea that they&#039;re actually going to DO anything with said &quot;message&quot; is foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to run against either of them?  Because if there&#8217;s nobody waiting in the wings to run, the idea that they&#8217;re actually going to DO anything with said &#8220;message&#8221; is foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And good point on state ratification of traditional marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And good point on state ratification of traditional marriage.</p>
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