Comments on: The rupture in Iran http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/ Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:36:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JLenardDetroit http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-53 JLenardDetroit Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:24:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-53 regardless of their Political structure... Of course, we would (IMO, correctly) argue if they had a Freedom/Capitalist based system they would never have gotten to that point. Although, with Obama.... I'll save it for another diary... regardless of their Political structure… Of course, we would (IMO, correctly) argue if they had a Freedom/Capitalist based system they would never have gotten to that point. Although, with Obama…. I’ll save it for another diary…

]]> By: JLenardDetroit http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-52 JLenardDetroit Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:20:11 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-52 I know that a mention of "TEApeats" (as I call them) may be a bit off-topic but NOT entirely. As they fight for Freedom and to not be SLAVES to their State and sympathizers across the U.S. join in to lend moral support - is it "fair" to ask how many Americans will get off their hind-side and the safety of their couches to stand up for OUR CONSTITUTION?!?! Since you mention Iran's Constitution, and I greatly thank you for your fine Diary and putting things in a proper context. Authorities only get away with ... well... anything/everything... as long as they have masses held down by the boot-heel (as in Iran) or by complacency. We on the Right always are talking about standing for Freedom and we are again being shown as the ONLY ones that provide anything other than lip-service to it, as Obama's rhetoric (although, it may have changed yet again today) but is now, finally, being pushed by us and the correct side of history (if not now, eventually)! We must continue to stand up and demonstrate our concern for FREEDOM for any/all around the world. Iranians are risking their Lives, will Americans risk sunburn? for their next potential opportunity to stand for our Freedoms/Constitution at a TEApeat? Plan to attend a <b>TEApeat</b> July 4, 9/12, Thanksgiving, etc... <a href="http://www.reteaparty.com/"><b>ReTeaParty (for 4th of July)</b> site</a> Contact the other sites and urge them to organize for the subsequent dates also: <a href="http://www.912dc.org/">09/12/09 DC Tax Protest</a> <a href="http://www.teapartyrevolution.com/default.aspx">Tea Party Revolution site</a> <a href="http://www.freedomworks.org/">FreedomWorks</a> <a href="http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx">Alliance Defense Fund</a> archive: <a href="http://taxdayteaparty.com/">Tax Day Tea Party site</a> (w/ Daily email update option) <a href="http://www.teapartyconvention/">Tea Party Convention (June 13, 2009)</a> Q, I hope you don't mind I tied the two.... Yes, we do NOT face anything like those abroad fighting for their freedom, but if we do not fight to maintain it here there will be no-one to help them fight for freedom ever/later. We have no excuses and they brave little chances - let us continue to pray for them! I know that a mention of “TEApeats” (as I call them) may be a bit off-topic but NOT entirely. As they fight for Freedom and to not be SLAVES to their State and sympathizers across the U.S. join in to lend moral support – is it “fair” to ask how many Americans will get off their hind-side and the safety of their couches to stand up for OUR CONSTITUTION?!?! Since you mention Iran’s Constitution, and I greatly thank you for your fine Diary and putting things in a proper context.

Authorities only get away with … well… anything/everything… as long as they have masses held down by the boot-heel (as in Iran) or by complacency. We on the Right always are talking about standing for Freedom and we are again being shown as the ONLY ones that provide anything other than lip-service to it, as Obama’s rhetoric (although, it may have changed yet again today) but is now, finally, being pushed by us and the correct side of history (if not now, eventually)!

We must continue to stand up and demonstrate our concern for FREEDOM for any/all around the world. Iranians are risking their Lives, will Americans risk sunburn? for their next potential opportunity to stand for our Freedoms/Constitution at a TEApeat?

Plan to attend a TEApeat July 4, 9/12, Thanksgiving, etc…

ReTeaParty (for 4th of July) site

Contact the other sites and urge them to organize for the subsequent dates also:
09/12/09 DC Tax Protest
Tea Party Revolution site
FreedomWorks
Alliance Defense Fund
archive:
Tax Day Tea Party site (w/ Daily email update option)
Tea Party Convention (June 13, 2009)

Q, I hope you don’t mind I tied the two…. Yes, we do NOT face anything like those abroad fighting for their freedom, but if we do not fight to maintain it here there will be no-one to help them fight for freedom ever/later. We have no excuses and they brave little chances – let us continue to pray for them!

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-51 Mike gamecock DeVine Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:00:21 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-51 And I probably should have used the term "theocratic" rule rather than regime. And I probably should have used the term “theocratic” rule rather than regime.

]]> By: qlangley http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-50 qlangley Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:46:02 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-50 can be a problem for any country. Nearly all the countries with a very high proportion of under 30s are in some state of disruption or civil war. I don't think we can assume that because people are young, they are against the regime, but they may nonetheless be troublesome for it. can be a problem for any country. Nearly all the countries with a very high proportion of under 30s are in some state of disruption or civil war.

I don’t think we can assume that because people are young, they are against the regime, but they may nonetheless be troublesome for it.

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-49 Mike gamecock DeVine Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:42:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-49 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124563005022735881.html http://www.newsweek.com/id/202979 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124563005022735881.html

http://www.newsweek.com/id/202979

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-48 Mike gamecock DeVine Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:40:02 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-48 has been generationally driven and was more than 50/50 against the regime at least 10-15 years ago and is growing more so. But even if its not, isn't what will really matter in the first instance be the numbers that demonstrate their opposition. It seems to me that the elections in Iraq and even Afghanistan together with the high % of yutes that voted for the first time this year in Iran are significant as many voted with naivete and hope looking at Iran and ignorant of past election shams in which few voted. Their hopes are dashed and they are passionate and that could trump actual overall numbers. has been generationally driven and was more than 50/50 against the regime at least 10-15 years ago and is growing more so.

But even if its not, isn’t what will really matter in the first instance be the numbers that demonstrate their opposition. It seems to me that the elections in Iraq and even Afghanistan together with the high % of yutes that voted for the first time this year in Iran are significant as many voted with naivete and hope looking at Iran and ignorant of past election shams in which few voted.

Their hopes are dashed and they are passionate and that could trump actual overall numbers.

]]> By: qlangley http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-47 qlangley Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:33:23 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-47 It is not at all clear where the people of Iran actually stand on any of this. There seems little doubt that Ahmadinejad had considerable support in the election. He probably defeated Rafsanjani legitimately four years ago - though his support may have been inflated to put him into the run off in the first place. It is not at all clear where the people of Iran actually stand on any of this.

There seems little doubt that Ahmadinejad had considerable support in the election. He probably defeated Rafsanjani legitimately four years ago – though his support may have been inflated to put him into the run off in the first place.

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-46 Mike gamecock DeVine Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:59:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-46 #2 is the AOE #1 is WTP, ultimately despite the obahonorifics http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/20/obamahonorific/ #2 is the AOE
#1 is WTP, ultimately

despite the obahonorifics

http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/20/obamahonorific/

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-45 Mike gamecock DeVine Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:56:45 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-45 not not

]]> By: qlangley http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-44 qlangley Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:54:11 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-44 but you may well be right. but you may well be right.

]]> By: naraht http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/2009/06/22/the-rupture-in-iran/#comment-43 naraht Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:13:36 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/qlangley/?p=9#comment-43 My guess is that this exact posting could go up on DK without any problem.. My guess is that this exact posting could go up on DK without any problem..

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