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I thought RedState made a point of not tolerating birthers.
hal2715 Friday, January 27th at 4:47PM EST (link)This serves no purpose.
The Georgia lawsuit brings new life to those who cannot ...
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 4:53PM EST (link)articulate good reasons to oppose Obama.
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Not a Birther Issue
Political Fireball (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:32PM EST (link)This has nothing to do with the ‘birther movement’. This is purely evaluating the information Obama has given us and critiquing it. With what he has given us he is not qualified.
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here.”
- Patrick Henry
Birfers and troofers and racists, oh my.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 4:50PM EST (link)Turn off the lights for a few minutes and they crawl out of the woodwork.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Orly Taitz' frankenstein monster meme got another jolt ...
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 4:55PM EST (link)thanks to the Georgia lawsuit …
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I thought those kind of posts were not allowed - N/T
Eyeofnewt Friday, January 27th at 5:00PM EST (link)N/T
Beating this really dead horse
funwithknives Friday, January 27th at 5:10PM EST (link)will get you not one inch further along. When historical records are written far into the future and everything becomes hindsight, undoubtedly” that which they seek” will come to light, somehow or another.
“BUT ToDay is Not That Day….” and you /they only do yourselves a large dis-service.
C’mon, concentrate your essence on the Enemy We have to Beat.
{ That’D Be BHO} G E T R E A L !
There was no court ruling in Georgia yesterday.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 5:18PM EST (link)I was just an evidentiary hearing.
The plaintiffs (3 of them) unanimously refused a default judgment against Obama in order to get their evidence against him on the record for the first time(!) in open court. The evidence speaks for itself to anyone with an open and rational mind.
It is certainly understandable to me why websites such as Redstate.com think this is an unproductive subject for discussion. However, it obviously becomes newsworthy if it keeps Barack Obama off the Presidential ballot. Apart from that, it is my opinion that Barack Obama has successfully intimidated almost the entire Republican Party with his “birther” epithet, from Chief Justice John Roberts through redstate.com and below. Mitt Romney is trying to do something similar with his “anti-capitalist” name-calling; it seems to be an effective technique.
Birthers are Fools
lapert Friday, January 27th at 5:28PM EST (link)You are a fool. You mischaracterize (I assume because you don’t actually understand) what transpired in court. That you think there is any evidence here at all is absurd, that you honestly think it will keep him off the ballot in Georgia (or anywhere) is ignorance.
It really is odd how foolish people can become when chasing tin-foil conspiracies.
The Georgia case is both notable and unlikely to change anything ...
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 5:49PM EST (link)in time for the 2012 election.
If nothing else, Obama has the defense of saying “I am the duly elected President, and therefore am a citizen”.
The best that we can hope for, IMO, is a finding that will prevent future shenanigans, not a way to get rid of Obama.
(and, consider, we’d then have our candidate running against another relatively blank slate Dem … that does not play to Romney’s strengths)
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Except no shenanigans
lapert Friday, January 27th at 7:20PM EST (link)Except there are no shenanigans except among the Birthers. There are real issues to debate, it isn’t that this is a mere distraction it serves to derail the legitimacy of conservatives to be associated with it and it should not be tolerated.
Please see my above posts, lapert.
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:29PM EST (link)I understand your point. I am neither a birther, nor do I condone the level of stupid required to be one.
That said, there’s no reason to get hot under the collar. The Georgia law requiring proof is a legitimate point of discussion. As it happens, it will make no difference whatsoever in 2012, likely not 2016 either.
Some of this attitude is the same thing we saw when it was Texas, not the U.S. government, that was to try Lee Harvey Oswald. There wasn’t a law on the federal books at the time about murdering government officials, it was just another homicide.
We’re conservatives, we’re routinely smeared as “associated with” far worse than birthers; Ron Paul, David Duke, Stormfront…
This is not something to get hot about. This is something to use to educate those who can learn, and mock those who cannot.
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I have a deep, quasi-religious respect for the truth when I can ascertain what it is.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 5:59PM EST (link)In this current case, as a matter of simple common sense, If Obama had evidence to lay this controversy to rest, he would have presented it in court yesterday, and not invited a default judgment against his candidacy. No number or severity of insults is going to change the truth of this matter, and I am personally certain of what it is beyond a reasonable doubt. You are of course entitled to a differing opinion.
I do hope that Barack Obama is defeated this November, and the legal controversies about his qualifications becomes moot. On the whole that would be the least destructive outcome for the USA. But I can’t blame or ridicule anyone who goes to court truly seeking justice.
But you are so far off the truth in Birtherland
lapert Friday, January 27th at 7:17PM EST (link)Look, your ‘opinion’ is so far from the truth and all it does is make the conservatives look like daft nut jobs (really no different that the worst of the ron paul supporters).
Here are just a ew shortcoming in your quest for truth. Take the quote above from U.S. vs Wong Kim Ark. Ignoring for a second that the date in the post is off by 50 years, the quote provided is part of a citation from a different supreme court case which explicitly did not determine the meaning of natural born citizen. In the Wonk Kim Ark case they determined that the common law understanding of natural born citizen at the time of the constitution did include those born within the country whether of citizens or not (with exceptions for ambassadors and enemies). In fact that was the common understanding in most of Europe in the 18th century, France explicitly moved to an inherited citizenship in ~1809 under Napoleon. Justice Gray actually concludes “Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.”
In other words, the actual historical record runs very much against the notion that he wouldn’t qualify, the case brought in Georgia is such a poor brief that engaging in it at all makes everybody involved dumber.
So if you truly are on a quest for truth, and not Truth, stop the ignorance that is Birthers.
It is against the expressed wishes of the editors for me to attempt to discuss this controversy at length and in detail.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 8:41PM EST (link)So I will not do so. I am a guest here, not the proprietor of this website.
I would offer to discuss it offline, but your obvious lack of courtesy makes that option unappealing.
So all I can say is that you are entitled to your own opinion. Please enjoy it in good health.
Obama is in contempt of court.
snowshooze (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:26PM EST (link)Oh… the birther thing… who knows if we will ever be certain of any of that. But I am beyond worrying over it.
But there is Fast and Furious, Green energy, and a host of other issues and Holder, Obama and others just ignore the Court.
I don’t know if I would ever try to do that.
I suppose Georgia could extradite. LOL
Do most birfers know how long it takes a case to get to the Supremes?
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:31PM EST (link)Hint: we *might* get a ruling about this before 2016. I wouldn’t bet on it, though.
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I'm sure Georgia is anxious to fight the U.S. Army again. (nt)
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:34PM EST (link)I'm not a lawyer but I don't think failing to show up in a civil suit normally leads to a contempt citation.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 7:51PM EST (link)Just a default judgment for the opposition.
Of course there was the infamous 7 years in jail for civil contempt that was served by Martin Armstrong. For every rule there is an exception.
And so you are correct.. I do not recall a sobphoena being issued either.
snowshooze (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:55PM EST (link)But so far as Holder and Co. the contempt is obvious.
I don’t know what Issa is to do. If he doesn’t do something… he will be a laughing stock. Along with the Courts,.
Yes, a subpoena was issued to Barack Obama by Judge Malihi.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 8:35PM EST (link)through his counsel. The counsel challenged the validity of the service, and was overruled by the judge. He moved to quash the subpoena and was denied by the judge. Then he sent his letter to the Georgia Secretary of State withdrawing himself and his client from the proceedings.
Total of non-birthers who care: Zero (nt)
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I assume that it is of interest to the editors of Redstate.com if Barack Obama is thrown off the Georgia ballot.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 8:46PM EST (link)But perhaps I am mistaken.
Obama was never going to win Georgia, and they are winner take all in the general.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 8:48PM EST (link)It’s mootness within mootness. It’s meta-moot. Unfortunately, it’s not mute.
Meta-moot..... that's great..... lol..... definately stealing that one...
texastaxpayer (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:39PM EST (link)“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” Sam Houston
The Birthers Should All Be Put To Sleep
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 8:46PM EST (link)They’re clearly suffering, and it appears terminal.
The American Republic is suffering, and perhaps it is terminal.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 8:58PM EST (link)I hope not.
Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius.
Then God must really hate birthers. (nt)
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:02PM EST (link)The virulence of your denunciation is inversely proportional to the strength of the evidence supporting it.
deVere Friday, January 27th at 9:20PM EST (link)Isn’t that entirely typical? LOL There is nothing new under the sun.
Any way, enjoy your irrational feelings of hatred and loathing if they helps you to feel important. I wish you well. and I wish Barack Obama political or legal defeat. One way or the other, I hope he is no longer President next January 20th at noon.
Link
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:24PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/politicalfireball/2012/01/27/is-obama-qualified-to-be-president/#comment-4
If you take the time to read the sworn testimony in Georgia
deVere Saturday, January 28th at 4:18PM EST (link)Perhaps you will cease presenting an obviously document as evidence.
The passionate desire of Republicans to defend Barack Obama is bizarre. John McCain did it memorably during the 2008 campaign. Perhaps Obama is the svengali of our times? I never have been hypnotizable.
Anyway, from a tactical standpoint it’s probably best now to let Obama run for relection. If he is knocked off the ballot Hillary Clinton may prove to be unbeatable.
And pink unicorns shall fly
lapert Saturday, January 28th at 6:11PM EST (link)Did you know they faked the moon landing too – plenty of sworn testimony to support it. Weird that they would do that given the leg up the aliens have on us which was well known due to all those documented abductions. But what can you do, I mean the media spends no time reporting on the big foot sightings right in our own backyard.
Yep, there is something bizarre here all right.
Sed Deus id non volt, quod non demens est.
Thomas Crown (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:27PM EST (link)Per se, requias argumentum? Est-ne? Veritate, Deus stulti favet.
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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
Argh. Magister me interfaciet.
Thomas Crown (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:44PM EST (link)Per se, requias argumentumque. Mea culpa.
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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
See above, deVere. Do you know how long it takes ...
acat (Diary) Saturday, January 28th at 10:21AM EST (link)to get to the center of a tootsie pop? No, wait, that’s not right.
… for a case to get before the Supreme Court?
Hint – this one won’t affect 2012 a whit. It *might* affect 2016.
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The Court decides who is in contempt, and no one can challenge it.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 8:12PM EST (link)There is no appeal. So no – he’s not in contempt.
Then they were wise for being stupid.
Thomas Crown (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 9:31PM EST (link)Default judgments are the easiest kind to set aside under O.C.G.A. 9-11-60, and the easiest to get reversed on appeal, because of roughly 1.573 x 10^23 cases explaining the importance of trying cases on the merits.
So they saved themselves some time and money, and now get to lose for really good reasons.
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G'bye (nt)
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Giga Pudding! (5!)
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:44PM EST (link)If flan is a dessert, then I think giga-pudding qualifies as one too.
Whatever on earth was this video about? Did I miss something?
snowshooze (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:50PM EST (link)Or does someone around here have that eraser?
I guess the key is in the title.
snowshooze (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:51PM EST (link)It’s a bit much for me though.
Giga Pudding
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 7:53PM EST (link)It’s a kit you can buy in Japan, basically a bucket with a special lid you can use to make a giant pudding.
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Does Scott Brown know about this?
acat (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 8:00PM EST (link)(Cheshire grin)
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Seems like something tech nerds would enjoy
bk (Diary) Saturday, January 28th at 6:16PM EST (link)with some Jolt Cola after an all-nighter whacking away at code.
We prefer the term Geek... thank you...
texastaxpayer (Diary) Saturday, January 28th at 6:36PM EST (link)“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” Sam Houston
How dare you, sir.
aesthete (Diary) Friday, January 27th at 10:27PM EST (link)Flan is delicious and far superior to pudding of any kind. For Christ’s sake, man, it’s made with caramel!! (Word to the wise: pumpkin flan and coffee flan are the best of all possible flans.)
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Pumpkin flan? ZOMG I want some!
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, January 28th at 10:28AM EST (link)I’ve only ever had coffee flan! It’s time for me to flip flop on my flan position.