Comments on: Is such government involvement in our lives permissible under the U.S. Constitution? http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Flagstaff http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-835 Flagstaff Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:19:48 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-835 "You’ll see all the brute force that you want to see and if you resist too much, death is not off the table. " That's the stongest warning against the O Admin yet written. “You’ll see all the brute force that you want to see and if you resist too much, death is not off the table. ”

That’s the stongest warning against the O Admin yet written.

]]> By: towerclimber http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-834 towerclimber Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:43:26 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-834 Many of the things done in Washington are done outside the powers of the Constitution. that's what got us in this mess to begin with. Many of the things done in Washington are done outside the powers of the Constitution. that’s what got us in this mess to begin with.

]]> By: towerclimber http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-833 towerclimber Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:34:24 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-833 of the notion that those things can't be done. As an communications field engineer, I can assure you that those things ARE possible and are indeed taking place. in the course of a year, the NSA will sample your phone conversations an average (minimum) of 9 times. Those are just the Domestic calls. International calls are scrutinized more heavily. I'll bet it would surprise you to know that even an idiot like me could build a device that can use your television speakers to listen in on conversations going on in your living room. You'd be amazed at the technology that's out there. of the notion that those things can’t be done.
As an communications field engineer, I can assure you that those things ARE possible and are indeed taking place.
in the course of a year, the NSA will sample your phone conversations an average (minimum) of 9 times. Those are just the Domestic calls. International calls are scrutinized more heavily.
I’ll bet it would surprise you to know that even an idiot like me could build a device that can use your television speakers to listen in on conversations going on in your living room.
You’d be amazed at the technology that’s out there.

]]> By: GregInFla http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-832 GregInFla Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:13:54 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-832 and I could not let it get by unanswered. And, even though the NSA might be able to do all that you fear, I doubt the means exist to do so. It's the folks in the White House <strong>now</strong> that have me worried. and I could not let it get by unanswered. And, even though the NSA might be able to do all that you fear, I doubt the means exist to do so. It’s the folks in the White House now that have me worried.

]]> By: reason60 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-831 reason60 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:07:32 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-831 I wil leave aside foreign communications for the moment- but am I the onliy conservative who feels that the power of the government to read our email, imprison without charges, is too much power to trust it with? For instance, does everyone in here feel comfortable knowing the NSA has the ability and permission to read every keystroke, capture every purchase you make, and track your movements, with very little or no court oversight? When these people are running around with Liberty flags, "Don't Tread on Me" flags, waving banners quoting Thomas Paine and Ben Franklin about giving up freedom for security, what do they men, if not reducing the power of government to spy on and imprison us? If forcing citizens to register guns is intolerable tyranny, then what is giving the government the power to track the purchase of that gun via your bank account? I think there needs to be a little more skepticism on the Right of all government power, not just the social welfare parts. I wil leave aside foreign communications for the moment- but am I the onliy conservative who feels that the power of the government to read our email, imprison without charges, is too much power to trust it with?
For instance, does everyone in here feel comfortable knowing the NSA has the ability and permission to read every keystroke, capture every purchase you make, and track your movements, with very little or no court oversight?

When these people are running around with Liberty flags, “Don’t Tread on Me” flags, waving banners quoting Thomas Paine and Ben Franklin about giving up freedom for security, what do they men, if not reducing the power of government to spy on and imprison us?

If forcing citizens to register guns is intolerable tyranny, then what is giving the government the power to track the purchase of that gun via your bank account?

I think there needs to be a little more skepticism on the Right of all government power, not just the social welfare parts.

]]> By: pilgrim http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-830 pilgrim Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:24:08 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-830 I had not seen them before, but I am not surprised to hear the condescension by the speaker, and to hear better articulation from a citizen than from the Rs serving in the US Congress. We need to have members of Congress who are NOT too scared to ask the question in the title of this diary. I had not seen them before, but I am not surprised to hear the condescension by the speaker, and to hear better articulation from a citizen than from the Rs serving in the US Congress.

We need to have members of Congress who are NOT too scared to ask the question in the title of this diary.

]]> By: ColdWarrior http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-829 ColdWarrior Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:12:14 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-829 Didn't we all know Congress has absolute authority over all aspects of our lives? Our scaredy-cat Republican "leaders" never make the Constitutional arguments against the Dems? Why not? Because "we the people" don't demand they do. Assuming the embed code works, here's the audio: <object width="518" height="419"><param name="movie" value="http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/eyeblast.swf?v=GdSU2GZu8z" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><embed src="http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/eyeblast.swf?v=GdSU2GZu8z" allowfullscreen="true" width="518" height="419" /></object> Here's the link to the story which also has the audio. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55971 It's really not that hard to make the constitutional arguments against Congress's usurpation of authority over our individual rights relating to obtaining our own private health care. This former soldier was able to do it, succinctly, to an aide to Sen. Claire McCaskill. And, he's running for office now. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/y98HxYbsdBM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/y98HxYbsdBM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Thank you. ColdWarrior www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com Didn’t we all know Congress has absolute authority over all aspects of our lives? Our scaredy-cat Republican “leaders” never make the Constitutional arguments against the Dems? Why not? Because “we the people” don’t demand they do.

Assuming the embed code works, here’s the audio:

Here’s the link to the story which also has the audio.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55971

It’s really not that hard to make the constitutional arguments against Congress’s usurpation of authority over our individual rights relating to obtaining our own private health care. This former soldier was able to do it, succinctly, to an aide to Sen. Claire McCaskill. And, he’s running for office now.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior
www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

]]> By: Warrior http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-828 Warrior Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:03:57 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-828 systematically delegitimize the U.S. Consitution since the sixties at least. By claiming every ridiculous behaviour, every stupid gubmint power grab and every sexual fetish to be a Constitutional right, they basically have created a huge cloud over and widespread ennui with what is actually in the Constitution. They've also created the fiction that they average Joe can't understand what's in it -- it's way over our heads. We need a bunch of over-educated jugheads to figure it out for us, see...WRONG. The Constitution is not written in hieroglyphics. It's written in plain English and is relatively easy even for a layman to understand. Remember how the SCOTUS created a brand new Constitutional right (to abortion) by citing "penumbras and emanations"? I think the Left realized then that if we swallowed Roe v Wade, we really didn't give a crap about what was in the Constitution... For a full treatment of this issue read Mark Levin's "Men in Black: How the Supreme Court Is Destroying America". systematically delegitimize the U.S. Consitution since the sixties at least. By claiming every ridiculous behaviour, every stupid gubmint power grab and every sexual fetish to be a Constitutional right, they basically have created a huge cloud over and widespread ennui with what is actually in the Constitution.

They’ve also created the fiction that they average Joe can’t understand what’s in it — it’s way over our heads. We need a bunch of over-educated jugheads to figure it out for us, see…WRONG. The Constitution is not written in hieroglyphics. It’s written in plain English and is relatively easy even for a layman to understand.

Remember how the SCOTUS created a brand new Constitutional right (to abortion) by citing “penumbras and emanations”?

I think the Left realized then that if we swallowed Roe v Wade, we really didn’t give a crap about what was in the Constitution…

For a full treatment of this issue read Mark Levin’s “Men in Black: How the Supreme Court Is Destroying America”.

]]> By: janis http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-827 janis Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:42:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-827 RonPaul, RonPaul, RonPaul,RonPaul,RonPaul,etc.etc.etc.etc. RonPaul, RonPaul, RonPaul,RonPaul,RonPaul,etc.etc.etc.etc.

]]> By: GregInFla http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-826 GregInFla Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:33:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-826 Spoken and written words entering and exiting this country over telecommunications media are subject to inspection in the same way that luggage and imports/exports are examined. Nothing different here. This is just a virtual customs inspection. Spoken and written words entering and exiting this country over telecommunications media are subject to inspection in the same way that luggage and imports/exports are examined. Nothing different here. This is just a virtual customs inspection.

]]> By: Kenny Solomon http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-825 Kenny Solomon Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:56:24 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-825 Do you seriously think Barack Hussein Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, David Axelrod and the rest of the current administration actually give a rat's arse about one word of The Constitution and Bill Of Rights ? Right now, they're "nudging" things using a Congress that doesn't realize it's going to be completely irrelevant in the very near future. When they finish generating their crisis too good to waste (and they just energized it's foundation with declaring H1N1 a national emergency), watch the first-class stomping and parchment burning commence. Only one thing is going to stop them...... those of us on the wall and at the tip of the spear who refuse to allow our nation and flag to fail........ at all costs. Take a good long look at your copy of The Constitution and Bill Of Rights...... Memorize it all. Tattoo it on the back of your neck if need be. Push is coming to shove right now at impulse power. The Administration is about to try and check out Warp 1 with the Swine Flue insanity. Do you seriously think Barack Hussein Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, David Axelrod and the rest of the current administration actually give a rat’s arse about one word of The Constitution and Bill Of Rights ?

Right now, they’re “nudging” things using a Congress that doesn’t realize it’s going to be completely irrelevant in the very near future.

When they finish generating their crisis too good to waste (and they just energized it’s foundation with declaring H1N1 a national emergency), watch the first-class stomping and parchment burning commence.

Only one thing is going to stop them…… those of us on the wall and at the tip of the spear who refuse to allow our nation and flag to fail…….. at all costs.

Take a good long look at your copy of The Constitution and Bill Of Rights…… Memorize it all. Tattoo it on the back of your neck if need be.

Push is coming to shove right now at impulse power. The Administration is about to try and check out Warp 1 with the Swine Flue insanity.

]]> By: reason60 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-824 reason60 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:38:59 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-824 is the foundation of patriotism, and conservatism. I would only hope that this skepticism includes also the Police powers of the States, such as the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, and the suspension of habeas corpus. There has been far too little skepticism and caution shown by the GOP with regard to the enlargement of government power in the war on terror. When you consider that most of the "sneak and peek" searches (where the govt' searches your house, without telling you they did it) have NOT been used in actual terror investigations, but ordinary criminal cases, one has to wonder how the enormous power will be put to use by the Obama Admin. or more succintly, why we should support the govt having such power. is the foundation of patriotism, and conservatism. I would only hope that this skepticism includes also the Police powers of the States, such as the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, and the suspension of habeas corpus.
There has been far too little skepticism and caution shown by the GOP with regard to the enlargement of government power in the war on terror.

When you consider that most of the “sneak and peek” searches (where the govt’ searches your house, without telling you they did it) have NOT been used in actual terror investigations, but ordinary criminal cases, one has to wonder how the enormous power will be put to use by the Obama Admin. or more succintly, why we should support the govt having such power.

]]> By: pilgrim http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-823 pilgrim Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:55:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-823 There is no proof concerning the concerning the Columbia paper. We got enough to criticize without adding things that we do not have the proof on. There is no proof concerning the concerning the Columbia paper. We got enough to criticize without adding things that we do not have the proof on.

]]> By: jlynnr http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-822 jlynnr Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:48:16 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-822 "Who cares." Brings to mind the paper Obama wrote while at Columbia, bemoaning how the Constitution put shackles on people by not allowing for the distribution of wealth... “Who cares.”

Brings to mind the paper Obama wrote while at Columbia, bemoaning how the Constitution put shackles on people by not allowing for the distribution of wealth…

]]> By: OccamsRazor http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/10/21/is-such-government-involvement-in-our-lives-permissible-under-the-us-constitution/#comment-821 OccamsRazor Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:55:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/?p=137#comment-821 I backspaced everything. (wouldn't you like to know) I backspaced everything. (wouldn’t you like to know)

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