The Obama Administration Is Not Clueless


There are so many pundits and journalists who are willing to carry the water for the Obama Administration. They report to their viewers, listeners, and readers that nobody knows for sure what effect the Obama Stimulus Plan is going to have, and if there is a further downturn that it would just be an unintended consequence of this youthful inexperienced team. I do not buy this narrative. Not one bit of it. This team is composed of the far left fringe of the Democratic Party. The end results they want, and the means they use to get them are not new at all. Karl Marx spoke at length about this in March of 1850 to an audience of members the Communist League in London.



Karl Marx described the political parties in Germany, what is the desired end result, what is not possible to do directly, and what is possible to do.


Since the defeat of the German and French revolutionary parties in July 1849, almost all the members of the Central Committee have reassembled in London: they have replenished their numbers with new revolutionary forces and set about reorganizing the League with renewed zeal.



This reorganization can only be achieved by an emissary, and the Central Committee considers it most important to dispatch the emissary at this very moment, when a new revolution is imminent, that is, when the workers’ party must go into battle with the maximum degree of organization, unity and independence, so that it is not exploited and taken in tow by the bourgeoisie as in 1848.



This democratic party, which is far more dangerous for the workers than were the liberals earlier, is composed of three elements: 1) The most progressive elements of the big bourgeoisie, who pursue the goal of the immediate and complete overthrow of feudalism and absolutism. 2) The constitutional-democratic petty bourgeois, whose main aim during the previous movement was the formation of a more or less democratic federal state; 3) The republican petty bourgeois, whose ideal is to abolish the pressure exerted by big capital on small capital, by the big bourgeoisie on the petty bourgeoisie. The representatives of this faction were the members of the democratic congresses and committees, the leaders of the democratic associations and the editors of the democratic newspapers.



The relationship of the revolutionary workers’ party to the petty-bourgeois democrats is this: it cooperates with them against the party which they aim to overthrow; it opposes them wherever they wish to secure their own position.



As far as the workers are concerned one thing, above all, is definite: they are to remain wage labourers as before. However, the democratic petty bourgeois want better wages and security for the workers, and hope to achieve this by an extension of state employment and by welfare measures; in short, they hope to bribe the workers with a more or less disguised form of alms and to break their revolutionary strength by temporarily rendering their situation tolerable. But these demands can in no way satisfy the party of the proletariat. While the democratic petty bourgeois want to bring the revolution to an end as quickly as possible, achieving at most the aims already mentioned, it is our interest and our task to make the revolution permanent until all the more or less propertied classes have been driven from their ruling positions, until the proletariat has conquered state power and until the association of the proletarians has progressed sufficiently far – not only in one country but in all the leading countries of the world – that competition between the proletarians of these countries ceases and at least the decisive forces of production are concentrated in the hands of the workers. Our concern cannot simply be to modify private property, but to abolish it, not to hush up class antagonisms but to abolish classes, not to improve the existing society but to found a new one.



We have seen how the next upsurge will bring the democrats to power and how they will be forced to propose more or less socialistic measures. it will be asked what measures the workers are to propose in reply. At the beginning, of course, the workers cannot propose any directly communist measures. But the following courses of action are possible:



1. They can force the democrats to make inroads into as many areas of the existing social order as possible, so as to disturb its regular functioning and so that the petty-bourgeois democrats compromise themselves; furthermore, the workers can force the concentration of as many productive forces as possible – means of transport, factories, railways, etc. – in the hands of the state.



2. They must drive the proposals of the democrats to their logical extreme (the democrats will in any case act in a reformist and not a revolutionary manner) and transform these proposals into direct attacks on private property. If, for instance, the petty bourgeoisie propose the purchase of the railways and factories, the workers must demand that these railways and factories simply be confiscated by the state without compensation as the property of reactionaries. If the democrats propose a proportional tax, then the workers must demand a progressive tax; if the democrats themselves propose a moderate progressive tax, then the workers must insist on a tax whose rates rise so steeply that big capital is ruined by it; if the democrats demand the regulation of the state debt, then the workers must demand national bankruptcy.





The way I see it, the Congress leadership and White House are akin to the revolutionary workers’ party. The editors of democratic newspapers, CEOs of green economy small businesses, and rank and file members of the Democratic Party are akin to the petty-bourgeois democrats. They have been useful idiots to help overthrow the GOP, but they will be turned on wherever they wish to secure their position of power.



That speech that Karl Marx gave in London about 159 years ago in London is very similar to speeches today in Washington, DC.


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Umm, wow.

haydus Tuesday, February 17th at 10:51PM EST (link)

The GOP wasn’t overthrown, it was defeated in an election. Just like every other election in United States history in which there was a peaceable transfer of power from one party to the other. This type of post is a little scary-is this website heading off the deep end?

Hmmm....Interesting

DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, February 17th at 11:03PM EST (link)

You opinion, this post was scary, my opinion the use of overthrow was the only thing wrong with it. The only scary part is that the parallels are quite interesting. Then again I will let Pilgrim answer you.

using the word "overthrow"

haydus Tuesday, February 17th at 11:06PM EST (link)

implies that one party has a natural or legal right to govern this country. If that wasn’t what was meant, then I retract my comment.

Nope you got overthrow not exactly best transitive verb -nt

DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, February 17th at 11:09PM EST (link)
 

I don't feed the trolls

pilgrim (Diary) Tuesday, February 17th at 11:11PM EST (link)

Thank you for noticing some parallels. It is true that Germany in the day did not enjoy the peaceable transfer of power as we do nowadays. Conceding to that nitpick still leaves a lot of political parallels.


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I dunno, maybe I need to read more Marx

haydus Tuesday, February 17th at 11:23PM EST (link)

but it doesn’t seem relevant to a post-industrial, global economy like the United States currently has.

You need to read more - period. nt

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 18th at 7:47AM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

thanks.

haydus Wednesday, February 18th at 7:28PM EST (link)

that’s a very useful comment.

 
 

Perhaps you should expand on why you think

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Thursday, February 19th at 10:24AM EST (link)

socialism can now work in a post-industrial global economy.

It’s never worked before and as my signature says, it’s not likely to ever work.

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I didn't say I think it can work

haydus Thursday, February 19th at 9:05PM EST (link)

I look at a quote like this one:

“the workers can force the concentration of as many productive forces as possible – means of transport, factories, railways, etc. – in the hands of the state”

and it doesn’t seem to relate to the here and now. Our roads are already government-owned, and if anything trending towards private ownership. The ports and airports are public or semi-public. The railroads where built with government subsidies, and are now public-private, and passenger rail being public. That’s the means of transportation. Factories-we still have some, but industrial production has plummeted and is stil falling. If the Big Three go under, there will be little left and one of the largest manufacturing unions left will be busted.

Marx wrote in a specific period when factories and railroads ruled. His theories relate to that time. They don’t relate much to now. The communist symbol is a hammer and sickle for the factory worker and farmer, but today that is a tiny part of the population. If communism is government ownership of the means of production, I wonder what it is that the U.S. produces?

John McCain and Sarah Palin spent a good deal of time talking about the threat of communism in the last election, but to me and to most under 35 is sounds dated and a little hokey. It reinforces the “Republicans are outdated” meme.

The industries have changed, but the methods and goals are the same.

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 9:01AM EST (link)

The current trend is to force government ownership of Banks, Auto Manufacturing, and housing.

Marx targeted the most important industries of his time. Obama is targeting the most important industries of ours.

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Under 35s

JDidSaint Friday, February 20th at 12:17PM EST (link)

As a fellow under 35er (under 30, in fact,) I know what you mean. The issue for me was understanding what communism/socialism was, why it was a troublesome economic policy, and why capitalism, although compassion-less, is a better economic system.

Although the U.S. may not produce the same amount of material goods it once did, we still create a great deal of food, manufacturing equipment, manufacturing materials, etc. What percent of the food, manufacturing equipment, manufacturing materials, cultural media, inventions, etc. does the government create? Possibly .5%. What do they receive? 35% of what’s produced.

Government doesn’t create, it redistributes. It takes from some people in one form and gives it to other people in another form. What McCain and Palin are saying is that government shouldn’t be taking 35% of what’s produced. Sure, government should have some piece to provide protection (military, police, judges, etc.) and possibly some for infrastructure (roads, railroads, maybe broadband, etc.) but the more money you can keep in the private sector, the more wealthy all productive members of society can become. (note: McDonalds employees and Donald Trump are both productive members of society. They produce different amounts, however, and should be compensated accordingly.)

The idea in capitalism is that if one boat is higher than another, you shouldn’t cut the mast of the taller one in half and give it to the smaller boat. You should raise the water under both boats so that the difference between the two becomes less and less significant while both boats get higher.

Basically, I agree with you that communist talking points reek of McCarthyism to us <35ers (thanks public education!) Still, that doesn’t make them wrong and it doesn’t mean that socialism/communism is right or responsible.

“I’d rather go through the pain of the re-emergence of free markets than endure the long suffering of a socialist state. One is natural and comes from that spark of human desire; the other is imposed and smothers the flame of ingenuity.”-Crowe (from RedState!)

One quibble JDidSaint

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 12:36PM EST (link)

Capitalism is much more compassionate than the economic models of communism and socialism. Capitalism has incentives towards success. Communism and Socialism provides incentives towards laziness and complacency, which eventually turns into economic bondage, if not outright slavery.

If you are having a hard time seeing the relevancy of the “communist talking points” that “reek of McCarthyism” then I suggest you pick up a copy of The Conscience of Conservative and read the last chapter, entitled “The Soviet Menace”. Goldwater talks about the ideology of Communism from a perspective of National Security, but in doing so he also points out the inherent incompatibility of Communism and Freedom. It is an ideology of domination, the industries will change, as will the means, but the goal always remains the same…domination.

This is why you cannot negotiate with Communists, or Islamofacists for that matter. they seek domination, not peace.

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Hard love

JDidSaint Friday, February 20th at 12:57PM EST (link)

You’re right – capitalists practice hard love in contrast to the enabling of socialists. Clearly hard love is more compassionate when viewed in the long-term.

I certainly wasn’t arguing against the RELEVANCY of the talking points, I was arguing against their form. Saying something is communist doesn’t have the same connotation amidst my generation that it did during the cold war.

I agree with you that communists must have complete domination and uniformity of thought to have any comfort. Anything short of this and the revolutions they adore will be reflected back on them ten fold.

“I’d rather go through the pain of the re-emergence of free markets than endure the long suffering of a socialist state. One is natural and comes from that spark of human desire; the other is imposed and smothers the flame of ingenuity.”-Crowe (from RedState!)

JDidSaint I am in your generation...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 1:11PM EST (link)

The point I was making is that the ideology of Communism is relevant outside of the context of the cold war. In fact the relevancy is greater now than it was then. Our generation does itself no favors by not recognizing this fact.

Russians didn’t make Communism bad, Communism made Russians bad.

Our generation needs to get past the context of the cold war, and instead focus on the underlying ideology which was its engine.

My advice to read Conscience of Conservative’s last chapter was meant to help you explain the relevancy to others in our generation.

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conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Well, the Russians had a pretty good start

Achance (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 1:15PM EST (link)

on being bad before the communists.

In Vino Veritas

Ok Achance...lets just say that Communism made them worse...nt

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 1:23PM EST (link)

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 

I accept your advice

JDidSaint Friday, February 20th at 1:40PM EST (link)

…and will do so as soon as possible. I should have read more carefully for your meaning and am grateful for the suggestion.

“I’d rather go through the pain of the re-emergence of free markets than endure the long suffering of a socialist state. One is natural and comes from that spark of human desire; the other is imposed and smothers the flame of ingenuity.”-Crowe (from RedState!)

 
 
 
 

And remember, McCarthy was in the main right.

Achance (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 12:56PM EST (link)

The Comintern had a very active organization in the USA and continued to do so throughout the Soviet period. The KGB had active operatives throughout the government and in science and industry, still does. We never had the dramatic Kim Philby moment of seeing our head of counterintelligence standing on the Kremlin balcony reviewing the troops on May Day, but there is no doubt that we had one or more Kim Philbys and probably still have major moles in CIA and State.

Communists were very active in the Civil Rights Movement, in fomenting dissent in the territories, in the anti-nuclear and anti-war movements. My own state would NEVER have been admitted as a state had it not been for “international” pressure on the US about its territories and the limited civil rights of citzens of the territories.

In Vino Veritas

True, but unfortunately...

JDidSaint Friday, February 20th at 1:18PM EST (link)

McCarthy is seen as the modern day Inquisition. It smacks of conspiracy and magic and any successes Sen. McCarthy had are at best glossed over (especially in the public schools.)

Good information though; I’ll be sure to set the record straight and avoid perpetuating the new history from here on out.

“I’d rather go through the pain of the re-emergence of free markets than endure the long suffering of a socialist state. One is natural and comes from that spark of human desire; the other is imposed and smothers the flame of ingenuity.”-Crowe (from RedState!)

Gramsci, an Italian communist promulgated

Achance (Diary) Friday, February 20th at 1:27PM EST (link)

the theory that the revolution was best achieved by infiltrating the institutions and the professions. The Left started with education where there was a natural confluence between communist ideas and some very bad German philosophy, e.g. Weber, Mann. They quickly conquered entertainment and the mass media and with the rising role of government in what had been the private economy, they got a good grip on the professions, especially the law.

The House Un-American Activities Committer, McCarthy, and active FBI inder Hoover, and CIA counter-intelligence before CIA was gutted in the ’70s kept them at bay but they certainly never went away.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

No doubt, Pilgrim

DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, February 17th at 11:23PM EST (link)

that was what I was saying especially some of the last few paragraphs in your excerpt. The funny thing was I have never read anything Marx has written, I do not have the time nor do I want to go through the “Tale of Two Cities” or push out the more intellligent information in my cranium to make room for it. The only Marx I can handle are quick glimpses from posts yours. None-the-less other than the nitpicking, parallels are quite obvious. Even without this excerpt you can intuitively figure that is what these guys are doing.

(laugh)…Socialism works, it just hasn’t been implemented correctly like 0 plans to- (laugh, laugh, worry)

 
 
 
 

Great analogies Pil', with the one about the useful rank and file idiots being the

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, February 18th at 10:29AM EST (link)

one that most echoes my call to win back the Reagan dems. I think the results of Obama’s policies will help do that.

Great essay my friend.

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I just hope I survive Obama's policies. nt

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, February 19th at 12:25AM EST (link)

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 

Gleichschaltung is a German word we should all understand.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 19th at 10:13AM EST (link)

It means something like coming together or bringing together, but people who write about the Nazi Era usually translate it as coordination. Coordination is used to describe the process by which the NSDAP insinuated itself into and gained control of the civil and economic institutions of Germany. We’re watching it now but from the other side.

Some of you know that recent political events have caused me to start looking into the poltics of Wiemar Republic in more detail than the “Cabaret” level. Up until about 1928, Germany could have gone either way: remained a liberal constitutional republic, adopted Soviet-style communism, or turned to the NSDAP (Nazis), with the odds slightly favoring the communists. The Worldwide economic downturn added staggering unemployment to already staggering inflation in Germany. Inflation is tolerable to people if they can make themselves worth more to more or less keep up with it. Germany’s system of unionization and compulsory arbitration (See, e.g., EFCA) had allowed labor to inflate wages with the inflating currency. But, with the deepening depression, many were thrown onto the welfare rolls where falling government revenues precluded the benefits from keeping up with the inflation well enough to provide for the most basic needs. Enter the Nazis.

Business and industry were straitened by the depression and infuriated with the unions and the communists and the government’s labor policies. While one might not expect business and industry to make common cause with the National Socialist German Workers Party, the English translation of the NSDAP or Nazi Party’s name, the Nazis brought them into the fold with promises of money, growth, and power through bailouts and a massive public works stimulus program. The business assets and processes remained nominally private but they remained so on sufferance of the Nazis. That sufferance depended on their coordination of the activities of the business to the activities of the Nazi Party. Starting to look familiar.

Then the Nazis struck out against their political enemies. For them those were the communists, the unions, and the social democrats (liberals). First, they vilified and intimidated them by means that would make Saul Alinsky proud. As they gained power in the states, they used that power to actively suppress the opposition. Perhaps the most successful early coordination was between the Nazis and the judicial system. While in America the Nazis are usually portrayed as working class thugs, the Nazis had a strong following in the universities, in the professions, and, especially, in the legal community. Thus, they quickly got a strong grasp on the German judicial system and used that system to suppress opposition. Before long in a nation that had prided itself in its positivist legal system was issueing judicial opinions based on “the healthy opinion of the volk.” You find that phrase over and over in the court decisions that countenanced the complete takeover of German society by the Nazi Party.

On thing I admire about thoughtful communists is the fact that they work very hard at understanding their defeats. The greatest defeat communism ever suffered was losing Germany and unleashing the Nazis on the Soviet Union, an event which brought the end of communism to within a dozen miles of Moscow. There are lots of thoughtful communists in America and they’ve been waiting for this moment for a very long time. They are definitively not clueless. They are embarked on a program of coordination with the civic and political institutions that are not unalterable opposed to them and are busily setting up the mechanisms by which they will eliminate those, mostly on the right, who will not “come together” with them. Those who don’t know the past are doom to repeat it. Those who do know the past are doomed to be surrounded by people who don’t.

In Vino Veritas

 

simple way to say it

Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, February 21st at 5:30PM EST (link)

they actually want more fear now to get more structural power forever.

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