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	<title>Comments on: What Is The Sound Of Corporate Shoulders Shrugging?</title>
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		<title>By: JDidSaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDidSaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Government&#039;s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.&quot;

I just finished Atlas Shrugged this year and I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. It&#039;s nearly time for us to trade our jobs as CEOs, CFOs, business owners, inventors, PhDs, lawyers, etc. for a job digging holes and filling them back in.

Play by their rules - causality will show the errors inherent in their theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Government&#8217;s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just finished Atlas Shrugged this year and I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. It&#8217;s nearly time for us to trade our jobs as CEOs, CFOs, business owners, inventors, PhDs, lawyers, etc. for a job digging holes and filling them back in.</p>
<p>Play by their rules &#8211; causality will show the errors inherent in their theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frown-wink doesn&#039;t work.

Frown uses colon-dash-rightparen

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frown-wink doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Frown uses colon-dash-rightparen</p>
<p>: </p>
<p>-</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try it again     ;-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try it again     ;-(</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>;-(          ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>;-(          <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that what you wanted?  Same as the smile, but make the last paren a righty (shift-zero) rather than a lefty (shift-nine).

:-)

:-(

;-)

:-O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that what you wanted?  Same as the smile, but make the last paren a righty (shift-zero) rather than a lefty (shift-nine).</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>:-O</p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-(   

nt</description>
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<p>nt</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nt</description>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t        :&lt;(</description>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone? And I don&#039;t mean read one of Obama&#039;s memoirs then look in the mirror...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone? And I don&#8217;t mean read one of Obama&#8217;s memoirs then look in the mirror&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the RTP area of North Carolina. Because of the idiot leftist policies of state and local governments in northern states, there has been a mass exodus to the South. This area is a prime example. Most of my friends here are ex-pats from OH, PA, MI and NJ. They would sooner die than go back home. 

The only problem is that the leftist mentality is so ingrained they cannot see the connection between the states they have fled and the policies they embrace. This, plus significant black populations, was enough to turn NC and VA blue for example. They are living in the golden land where they can vote for and support leftists like Obama without it having any real effect on their lives - yet.

I would imagine that when the people and companies that have produced the boom that the South has enjoyed for so long get the picture, the exodus of talent from the US to other countries will be real, and it will be final.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the RTP area of North Carolina. Because of the idiot leftist policies of state and local governments in northern states, there has been a mass exodus to the South. This area is a prime example. Most of my friends here are ex-pats from OH, PA, MI and NJ. They would sooner die than go back home. </p>
<p>The only problem is that the leftist mentality is so ingrained they cannot see the connection between the states they have fled and the policies they embrace. This, plus significant black populations, was enough to turn NC and VA blue for example. They are living in the golden land where they can vote for and support leftists like Obama without it having any real effect on their lives &#8211; yet.</p>
<p>I would imagine that when the people and companies that have produced the boom that the South has enjoyed for so long get the picture, the exodus of talent from the US to other countries will be real, and it will be final.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It comes out with the smiley face on Wordpress.</description>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get those smileys in your comments?</description>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mental masturbation, the things that really hit me were:

1. The guy had no concept of economic reality.
2. The guy seemed to think the most important cog in the creation of wealth was the role of government.

I think you&#039;re way too generous in assuming he&#039;s &quot;read a few books&quot;, other than maybe the kind with lots of color pictures.  Personally, I think he&#039;s been watching too much TV and paying way too much attention to stuff like Democracy Now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mental masturbation, the things that really hit me were:</p>
<p>1. The guy had no concept of economic reality.<br />
2. The guy seemed to think the most important cog in the creation of wealth was the role of government.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re way too generous in assuming he&#8217;s &#8220;read a few books&#8221;, other than maybe the kind with lots of color pictures.  Personally, I think he&#8217;s been watching too much TV and paying way too much attention to stuff like Democracy Now!</p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Moe, happy now.  :-)  It was called-for.  :-)

Have some Albanian folk dancing again.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Moe, happy now.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   It was called-for.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have some Albanian folk dancing again.</p>
<p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CjiKvR9y80A&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CjiKvR9y80A&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>around the communities near to me over the past 20 years.  This is a place that draws a lot of creative people, mostly, I think, because it&#039;s cheaper to live here than in the cities, but also because there&#039;s a lot of personal freedom due to more space and privacy.

What many of them don&#039;t seem to understand though, is that it&#039;s not enough to be creative if you don&#039;t have a marketing plan, a targeted customer base, and the ability to deliver your product consistently.  Too many of them think that they are so wonderful that people will flock to their doorstep and beg for their work.

And too many end up getting jobs at McDonald&#039;s to pay the rent.  Reality can be a b**ch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>around the communities near to me over the past 20 years.  This is a place that draws a lot of creative people, mostly, I think, because it&#8217;s cheaper to live here than in the cities, but also because there&#8217;s a lot of personal freedom due to more space and privacy.</p>
<p>What many of them don&#8217;t seem to understand though, is that it&#8217;s not enough to be creative if you don&#8217;t have a marketing plan, a targeted customer base, and the ability to deliver your product consistently.  Too many of them think that they are so wonderful that people will flock to their doorstep and beg for their work.</p>
<p>And too many end up getting jobs at McDonald&#8217;s to pay the rent.  Reality can be a b**ch.</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been waiting for you to blam someone in a discussion that has any reference to guns so you can remind peeps of Obama&#039;s anti-gun rhetoric before he became Presidential candidate (and so many people think he&#039;s gun-safe... oh please)!

Could you just throw it in here for good measure? ;-) Those links have long fallen off my list I so don&#039;t have the Video embed around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been waiting for you to blam someone in a discussion that has any reference to guns so you can remind peeps of Obama&#8217;s anti-gun rhetoric before he became Presidential candidate (and so many people think he&#8217;s gun-safe&#8230; oh please)!</p>
<p>Could you just throw it in here for good measure? <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Those links have long fallen off my list I so don&#8217;t have the Video embed around</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America will &quot;go French&quot; as you put it is horrifying indeed.  It is time to shake up and wake up the powers that be, but it may well take losing a lot of our advantages as a &quot;talent draw&quot; and the natural results thereof before anything is done about it.

As to the sleepless nights thing, I think that will apply to a whole lot of folks for a whole lot of reasons in the next few years.  We are facing unprecedented times on a number of fronts.  The sky, in other words, is green on many days now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America will &#8220;go French&#8221; as you put it is horrifying indeed.  It is time to shake up and wake up the powers that be, but it may well take losing a lot of our advantages as a &#8220;talent draw&#8221; and the natural results thereof before anything is done about it.</p>
<p>As to the sleepless nights thing, I think that will apply to a whole lot of folks for a whole lot of reasons in the next few years.  We are facing unprecedented times on a number of fronts.  The sky, in other words, is green on many days now.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy now?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy now?  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/pejman_yousefzadeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Mike, I was pondering something short and killer for this drone.  I would love to have seen YOUR response.

It&#039;s just amazing how many clowns can sit in their rooms reading a few books and think that gives them infinite knowledge of the world.  I talk about competitive tax policy problems, and this clown calls ME names?  I&#039;m out there in the mix, he clearly isn&#039;t.

I was wondering if some goofball would show up and refloat that whole &quot;creative class&quot; b.s.  Somehow I don&#039;t think the people who have fled to Paris and/or Amsterdam are ones we miss at all.

If you missed it, some Canadian professor wrote a book back in 2000 called &quot;The Rise of the Creative Class.&quot;  The basic thesis was that the prime underlying driver for creating economic growth was to make your jurisdiction friendly for &quot;artistic&quot; types - and somehow this would create magic fog in the air that promoted commercial growth.

I don&#039;t know where the guy was getting this (or maybe his book was a spoof), since from my travels all over everywhere I long ago concluded that a good commercial situation is what generates the cash flow that lets you have high-grade performing arts.  Atlanta is a good example of this.

Florida&#039;s book created two awful problems.  First, it provided an excuse for all sorts of self-serving fools to focus on building up an &quot;arts community&quot; - which usually meant bringing in all their junk art buddies with their hands outstretched.  The second was that it gave an excuse for all of these people to be incredibly pompous - that somehow only &quot;artists&quot; were &quot;creative&quot; - and everyone else was just a braindead cog in a big machine.  None of these people of course would deign to have any business or innovation experience - which is where you find the genuinely most-creative people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Mike, I was pondering something short and killer for this drone.  I would love to have seen YOUR response.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just amazing how many clowns can sit in their rooms reading a few books and think that gives them infinite knowledge of the world.  I talk about competitive tax policy problems, and this clown calls ME names?  I&#8217;m out there in the mix, he clearly isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I was wondering if some goofball would show up and refloat that whole &#8220;creative class&#8221; b.s.  Somehow I don&#8217;t think the people who have fled to Paris and/or Amsterdam are ones we miss at all.</p>
<p>If you missed it, some Canadian professor wrote a book back in 2000 called &#8220;The Rise of the Creative Class.&#8221;  The basic thesis was that the prime underlying driver for creating economic growth was to make your jurisdiction friendly for &#8220;artistic&#8221; types &#8211; and somehow this would create magic fog in the air that promoted commercial growth.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where the guy was getting this (or maybe his book was a spoof), since from my travels all over everywhere I long ago concluded that a good commercial situation is what generates the cash flow that lets you have high-grade performing arts.  Atlanta is a good example of this.</p>
<p>Florida&#8217;s book created two awful problems.  First, it provided an excuse for all sorts of self-serving fools to focus on building up an &#8220;arts community&#8221; &#8211; which usually meant bringing in all their junk art buddies with their hands outstretched.  The second was that it gave an excuse for all of these people to be incredibly pompous &#8211; that somehow only &#8220;artists&#8221; were &#8220;creative&#8221; &#8211; and everyone else was just a braindead cog in a big machine.  None of these people of course would deign to have any business or innovation experience &#8211; which is where you find the genuinely most-creative people.</p>
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