How would you like to be in the position of one of the political hands working for Team Obama? You were probably responsible in no small part for having helped manage one of the best campaigns in political history, a campaign whose dispatch of the most powerful machine in the Democratic party prior to the rise of Barack Obama was no small feat and can be boasted about to one’s grandchildren.
And now . . . well . . . you are spending a goodly amount of time in coffee shops and complaining and being afraid:
In the office block in downtown Washington where Barack Obama’s White House transition team are at work, there is no time for breaks.
Lunch is taken at desks. Staff need a good reason to go out at all.
But a little after lunch on Wednesday two Obama aides went to a local coffee shop to talk. Both were veterans of the campaign, hailed as the best organised and most disciplined in US history, which has made their boss the first black president.
Both had come to believe, in the crucible of the campaign, that Mr Obama’s judgment was superior to their own. But when they met on Wednesday they agreed on one thing: “He’s making a mistake.” As one of the participants told a friend later that night: “She’ll do a good job but she’ll do it for herself, not for Barack. I can’t bear the drama again.”
She, of course, is Hillary Clinton, former First Lady, figurehead of Democratic women, presidential candidate with 18 million votes and now would-be Secretary of State.
Read on for more about how dealing with the Clintons is symptomatic of the sudden and astonishing loss of discipline and control in Team Obama’s camp. While this is all so amusing to watch, then danger is that a similar lack of discipline will attend the formulation and implementation of foreign policy–a prospect that is far less funny.
Why is Barack Obama doing this? It’s not as if there aren’t other candidates to nominate for Secretary of State–candidates who would not create as much drama as Hillary Clinton and her husband have helped create and are likely to continue to create. The White House is not the ideal staging grounds for a soap opera. And yet, it would appear that we are in for at least four years of one when it comes to the conduct of foreign policy.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
I have no idea why he'd do this...
davidingeorgia Sunday, November 23rd at 10:34AM EST (link)…is it even remotely possible that some of the op-research stuff that her people dug up on him but didn’t use during the campaign is damaging enough to use to wrangle herself this job? Or, did his more thorough intelligence briefings (post-election) scare The One [tm] badly enough that he wanted another big name on board to share the blame with if something catastrophic happens? yes, I’m just guessing (wildly), but for a guy who ran such a smart (though thoroughly dishonest, of course) campaign, this move seems awfully dumb.
"this move seems awfully dumb."
Paul_In_Houston Sunday, November 23rd at 10:52AM EST (link)Applying Occam’s Razor to it,
What you see is what you get.
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Paul_In_Houston Sunday, November 23rd at 11:05AM EST (link)I have absolutely no idea what I did to make that last line show up like a headline.
I just typed in the comment as normally as I could, without using any html tags or accessing any of the buttons above the comment block. Same for this one, in case it happens again.
UPDATE – I DO know, after all. In the previous comment, I had put a dash below the last line, to force a line space for better clarity. Using a period instead worked fine.
Putting a dash below a line will make a headline of that line (or the entire paragraph that line belongs to), as I’m doing here. (And said dash does not show.) Interesting.
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As with everything in Barry's world
Illinicon (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 11:20AM EST (link)this was for “the fierce poltical urgency of now”, to borrow a phrase. Barry’s people looked at the exit poll data that showed 16% of Hillary voters went for McCain and had our base shown up the Western White House in waiting would be in Sedona right now. So he had continued to trash HRC as POTUS, he would have had atleast 16% of Hillary’s support likely bleeding more of that support away. Naming HRC as Secstate is a way to make amends for the sexist nature of his primary campaign, as obviously the Pres-elect would not nominate someone for the post whose only foreign policy expirence was “holding photo-op tea parties with foriegn leaders.” I feel HRC will have a pretty loose leash in terms of how the adminastration tries to reign her in, because his political people knows he needs her alot more than she needs him.
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
_Excellent_
hunter (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 11:27AM EST (link)“What you see is what you get”
What a fantastic way to encapsulate the stupidity that Obama commits.
hunter
He needed to appoint a woman...
CK_MacLeod Sunday, November 23rd at 11:31AM EST (link)…to a top job, and there was no other credible and available candidate for SecState. He also needed to appoint a black, already taken care of at AG – possibly the only explanation for why he would take on Holder’s baggage. There were no credible non-white, non-male candidates for Defense and Treasury.
Gender politics is a b*tch, in more ways than one.
Several Reasons
bc3 Sunday, November 23rd at 11:49AM EST (link)I honestly think Obama said on Nov. 5, “My God, I’m preseident-elect. What do I so now?”
Obama has never really run anything and has a very thin resume (although the media managed to cover this up while working to expose Palin, who in reality is much more experienced).
In Obama’s eyes, Clinton’s presidency was successful, so he is bringing in many of the old Clinton staff, which he views as safe. It’s kind of like voting present.
I think Obama feels that by making Hillary Secretary of State he is removing her from the political picture. If the economy continued to fall apart or other things go wrong, she could become a powerful opponent in the senate and seek the presidency again in 1912. As Secretary of State, she’s part of the Obama team and shares the responsibility if things go wrong.
If I were Hillary, I would have stayed in the senate.
bc3
"What do I do now?"
Paul_In_Houston Sunday, November 23rd at 12:23PM EST (link)“I honestly think Obama said on Nov. 5, “My God, I’m preseident-elect. What do I do now?”
I flash on the ’70s Robert Redford movie, “The Candidate”, wherein he’s managed to defeat a far more experienced incumbent, and after doing so says to his campaign manager, “What do we do now?”.
Oh, and the “WHAT HAVE I DONE?” look on that manager’s face.
(Obviously a fantasy, showing such reaction from a campaign manager.
Can anyone conceive of such a reaction from David Axelrod?)
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Maybe Chris Matthews already knows...
vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 12:34PM EST (link)…that Obama will soon be sunk in DC if he doesn’t wise up.
Matthews was perplexed a week ago when Joe Lieberman wasn’t sufficiently chastened. Matthews said something to the effect of “the campaign is over–it’s time to start cracking heads and getting folks in line”.
While I’d like to believe the President-elect can stand up to poweful interests within his party, he hasn’t ennumerated any guiding principles to hold fast to in the tempests that await him.
Choosing a team with personal agendas is premeditated frustration.
Dave Ramsey in 2012!
Payment for Clinton Endorsement
Palinpal Sunday, November 23rd at 1:00PM EST (link)Barack Obama is a private man. I suspect he discloses very little to very few. It’s the old trick of the trade: when you speak a lot, people assume you’re saying all there is to be said, when, in fact, there may be much you’re not disclosing.
Aides who have eyes only for their leader often display a kind of college intern naivete about how politics really works. They went full guns for Hillary during the primaries. But when the primaries were done, Obama knew it was time to pay the leftist illuminati piper. He could not guarantee a win without a unified party: he needed the Clinton endorsement.
But with the Clintons, nothing is free.
Just because this topic is new to the public, new to the press, doesn’t mean it’s new to Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. The D.C. elites know how to get what they want.
Getting Hillary to buy in
redneck_hippie (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 1:05PM EST (link)to the Administration.
Exactly my thoughts.
We do know that Obama does not like to have opposition for his runs for political office. This is just one more instance of clearing his deck.
Who else Pejman?
mollyp Sunday, November 23rd at 2:58PM EST (link)You said there are other candidates, which is true, but who would you choose out of curiosity? Of the names I’ve heard about, I prefer Clinton.
Personally, I strongly believed 5 months ago that he would bypass her as VP and would instead choose her as SOS.
The reasoning is that, had he chosen her as VP, she might have upstaged him and appeared as if she were the one running the show. He needed to vanquish her. So, after he vanquished her and clearly established who’s the president, it was then relatively safe to give her an important job, since she is, as most people agree, highly competent and tough.
Like a chess game, the order of the moves makes all the difference between check-mate and being check-mated.
Sticking with the chess analogy, 2 players can open with the first 5 moves (let’s say it’s the Queens Gambit), but again, the 6th move may make all the difference between a disaster and a win.
Which is why, in general, I’m not reading much into the fact that he is opening with the ‘Clinton Gambit’, so to speak.
People who play chess may have something to say about how this reasoning does or does not apply to politics.
Back to Hilary, I think he will give her a long leash to do her own thing as SOS, since their goals are likely aligned. She has a chance to do something historically huge in the Middle East. I think she’ll be more intereted in bagging a Nobel Peace Prize for herself (figuratively speaking, but maybe not entirely), than creating drama.
But, we shall see.
if it was just content...
davidingeorgia Sunday, November 23rd at 4:34PM EST (link)…or policy or ideas, I’d agree with you…i.e. that it’s just stupid being stupid…but this guy is not stupid re: politics/PR/public image stuff, and this is bad politics for him, so I’m thinking there’s another reason(s) for planting an insurgency inside his own administration before he’s even inaugurated, that’s all.
...but this guy is not stupid
Paul_In_Houston Sunday, November 23rd at 5:25PM EST (link)I’m not at all sure we can take that as a given. There seems to be good arguments that he’s not really all that bright either. To wit…
What has he actually accomplished before winning this election. Iowahawk observed that this may actually be his first real job. He was being facetious (I think), but that ain’t far from the mark.
He’s smart enough to surround himself with the likes of David Axelrod and George Soros, and seems to do well when following a script.
But, I truly believe his vaunted intelligence is like so much else about him; utterly mind-blowing media hype and adoration.
To attribute Machiavelian intelligence behind his every move is to give him too much credit, imbuing him with something that just isn’t there
For now, I stand behind the “what you see is what you get” observation.
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So I wonder if Obama will bring on Monica Lewinsky?
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 5:37PM EST (link)In December 2006, Lewinsky graduated with a master’s degree in Social Psychology from the London School of Economics[15] where she had been studying since September 2005.[16] Her thesis was titled “In Search of the Impartial Juror: An Exploration of the Third Person Effect and Pre-Trial Publicity.”
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Is the job maybe bigger than the person?
Abraham Loy Sunday, November 23rd at 6:16PM EST (link)As mentioned elsewhere, the cold reality of the morning after what was essentially a binge party is setting in, and maybe Barry Soetero is not the only one having second thoughts. Perhaps he should be scrambling around and digging up those old documents that prove he was in fact an Indonesian citizen by adoption, and he was never renaturalized as a US citizen.
But he won’t. He will, however, so disgracefully mismanage the delegation of duties in the coming months, that the Democrats will be demanding his impeachment.
He has been offered a relatively honorable way to bow out now. The offer won’t be extended later.
who said anything about...
davidingeorgia Monday, November 24th at 10:33AM EST (link)…”vaunted intelligence?” certainly not me…I said that he’s “not stupid” about PR/political/image type stuff…but as you admit, if nothing else, he’s smart enough (how smart? shrug who cares) to surround himself with people who should have been telling him that this was a dumb move even if he didn’t think so himself…I just don’t see the upside here politically, not when you are signing on Hillary and you get Bubba as part of the deal, unless there’s something else going on.
1912?
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 24th at 2:05PM EST (link)Idk, I think Woodrow Wilson will be a pretty strong challenger by then XD
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton