So . . . take a look at this:
There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen.
They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family’s permission. What’s worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn’t cast the ballot for his choice for President.
Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote.
“They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain,” said Jack Justice, a voter.
Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama’s name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified.
“No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone,” said Nancy Justice, Jack’s sister.
And this.
For all of the people responsible for manipulating the votes of those who may not have the capacity to fully fight back and trashing the personal lives of those whose major sin was to come out against Barack Obama–and make no mistake, Joe Wurzelbacher wouldn’t have gotten into any trouble whatsoever if he chose to side against McCain–I just have to ask: Do you feel big and strong now? And if this is what it takes to make you feel big and strong, what precisely does that say about you?
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BILL AYERS
RBE_ Saturday, October 18th at 1:29AM EST (link)The thing about Bill Ayers.
Fact: The 60’s were a totally DIFFERENT TIME
Fact: The 60’s was 35+ years so
Fact: Bill Ayers was NEVER CONVICTED of any wrongdoing
Fact: Barack Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD during the 60”s protests
Fact: Barack Obama was NOT INVOLVED in any of the protests of the 60’s
Fact: What happened in the 60’s IS NOT RELEVANT to what is happening today!!!
Fact: Barack Obama DOES NOT “PALL AROUND WITH TERRORISTS”.
non-sequiter
Idolator (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:34AM EST (link)You are obviously a troll and will be ban hammered shortly, but I’m going to shred your post anyway.
Fact: The 60’s were a totally DIFFERENT TIME
True… so were the last eight years as well as the precambrian era. This statement has no relevance.
Fact: The 60’s was 35+ years so
False…the Sixties were a ten year time span. If you meant that the sixties were thirty-five plus years ago, then it’s true but still totaly irrevelant.
Fact: Bill Ayers was NEVER CONVICTED of any wrongdoing
Doubtful…Although I don’t think that he was ever convicted of a major crime such as murder, I find it highly unlikely that the man has never received a fine for speeding or civil disobedience. If you were refering to being convicted of a felony then here is a list of other folks that would be squeeky clean in your book… Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Mohamed Atta, Osama bin Laden, etc. (not being convicted of wrong doing does not mean that you have done no wrong)
Fact: Barack Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD during the 60”s protests
False…protests occured over many years in the late Sixties and early Seventies. Unless Barry was eight years old for six years then this is impossible. Again, relevance?
Fact: Barack Obama was NOT INVOLVED in any of the protests of the 60’s
True…What does this have to do with anything? The issues about Ayers have nothing to do with protests, but have everything to do with bombings and killings. Unless you find murder and mayhem an acceptable form of protest. If you do then please post the name of your organization and I will gladly inform the FBI.
What happened in the 60’s IS NOT RELEVANT to what is happening today!!!
Not just false but horribly ignorant. I think that more than a few Vietnam vets, Kent State Alumni, Astronauts, Civil Rights Activists, the Kennedys, and Martin Luther King’s family would disagree.
If your statement were true then associating with former Klansmen shouldn’t hamper one’s chances of being eleced to office. (Byrd D-W Virginia)
Fact: Barack Obama DOES NOT “PALL AROUND WITH TERRORISTS”.
False… I’m pretty sure that Barry is not a sheet of material. If you meant “pal around”, I’m not so sure. Your definition of what is considered a pal could be different from mine. However he did associate with terrorists, Ayers and his wife.
Just because you were not caught does not mean that you did not commit the act. The passage of time does not change what you did. What ever disguise you wear now does not change what you are.
Look at yourself! Have you looked at yourself?!?
How low can ya go?
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:34AM EST (link)These people are evil and will go to any lengths to win. This is a shameful story. And I’m sure there are many more of them across the country.
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RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:42AM EST (link)According to your way of thinking, it would be okay for him to be a Nazi then, because he wasn’t born when Hitler was alive?
And to pick up on a comment by idolator: What happened to Trent Lott when he attended the 146th (joke) birthday party for Jesse Helms and said some kind words for the former Klansman and then US Senator? The leftist media crucified him.
But we should give Obama a pass for his connections to radicals and terrorists? Why? Because you said what happened in the 60′s isn’t relevant?
Come back with a true argument or get outta town!
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Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:42AM EST (link)Obama was roughly 8 years old when Charles Manson did his killing too. Would a relationship with Charlie be OK with you since his crimes were committed so long ago? You should listen to that little voice inside of you that says your rationalization in this regard is psychopathic.
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the worst people
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:53AM EST (link)This thread title should have read:
“This election is bringing out the WORST people.”
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1SGinTN (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 3:12AM EST (link)I’m ready to throw down right now.
Who is it that says punch the hippies & kill the terrorists? So many targets of opportunity, so little time.
Tu Ne Cede Malis
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Frank J. said it first, I think
MikeO Saturday, October 18th at 3:26AM EST (link)IMAO
Both Joe and his company can fight the shutdown.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 5:46AM EST (link)Ohio Licensing Requirements
This came off a blog because it was already broken down. He linked to the laws however.
As for the disabled man. I’m at a loss.
No wonder Obama and the Dems want to take our guns away. They want to make sure we have no means of defense when they come for us next.
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gekster (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 5:54AM EST (link)Fact: Bill Ayers was NEVER CONVICTED:
The case against him was thrown out because of FBI mistakes. He admitted he did what he was charged with.
Thats a fact you omited.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
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Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
This was for the first
gekster (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 5:59AM EST (link)This was for the first comment by RRB
finger slipped
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Jack Justice is my cousin...
Shiheng Zeke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:29AM EST (link)I could not believe it when I saw this posting. When I read the name it did not make sense at first and then it hit me.
Jack Justice is my cousin.
The Obama goons used MY family. They forced a mentally challanged man to vote for their guy.
I am typing this with absolute fury at this moment. I have already forwarded the story to the rest of my family. Some of them are Obama supporters.
I will be calling them later today and talking about their supported candidate.
“They say the grass is greener on the other side, but have you ever flipped it over?”
What A Scumbag
Davo (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:35AM EST (link)http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/10/guilty-as-hell-free-as-bird-america-is.html
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Bye.
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wennejunk (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:17AM EST (link)n/t
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis
they have it, but it is saying
kyle8 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:45AM EST (link)“raise taxes” “soak the rich” “America is bad” “Christians are evil”
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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Let's be honest with ourselves
Andromsoft_ Saturday, October 18th at 8:15AM EST (link)Obviously, what this man’s caregivers did to him is despicable, as is anyone who tries to commit voter fraud or break the law to force an electoral victory. As a country we pride ourselves on respect for law and undermining that principle in support of any candidate defeats the purpose of regularly renewing our democratic system to begin with. Unless it can be proven that those guilty of committing fraud are acting in direct conjunction with a campaign, their actions should not impact any political candidates campaign. This is just common sense. Fix the fraud and be done with it.
That said, I think we’re all adult enough to realize one thing: if Joe the Plumber had approached McCain and provoked an equally damaging comment, every one of us would be writing him off as a left-wing nutcase.
We would.
That’s how politics works, and it sucks, but I think if any political party tries pretending they’re above the fray, then they’re fooling themselves.
Andromsoft, please point out one instance of
janis (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:30AM EST (link)McCain’s campaign attempting to do something even vaguely similar to what the left has done to Joe the Plumber. And Joe was not “provoking an equally damaging comment.” Joe asked an honest question and Obama forgot (again) that he was supposed to lie and, instead, told the truth.
The fault lies with Obama and the lefty media, not with Joe–who, by the way, did not approach Obama, Obama approached him.
Jail him
paint_it_red (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:31AM EST (link)The aide committed a felony and he belongs in jail. Not only should the poor abused man’s vote be reversed, but the aide, as a felon, should be disallowed any opportunity to vote himself.
“It is not good to cultivate a respect so much for the law as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think is right.” Henry David Thoreau
“The means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.” Martin Luther King Jr.
“If you want peace, work for Justice.” Pope John Paul II
Ayers and Obama are much closer than that
paint_it_red (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:47AM EST (link)Although I suppose the dailykos does not go into it much, Obama was not 8 years old when he got his political start in Ayers living room, where he launched his 1st campaign. Obama denied it at the debate and the fact checkers slammed him on it.
Ayers, through the Annenberg foundation, gave Obama his first $50,000,000 to start dispersing and builiding community links and collecting the IOUs he would use to rise to political prominence in Northern Illinois. Ayers was his sine qua non patron that enabled Obama to make it politically.
And then there is ACORN. A group whose felonies in voting fraud outpace any systematic voting fraud in the history of the world, these anti-democratic forces are going to be charged under RICO perhaps, and many are going to jail. Obama promised them that not only would they have a voice in his administration, but that they would help him “set the agenda.” We have this on YouTube video. So again, his attempt to disassociate himself from them on YouTube is a lie. Obama used Ayers’ money to empower and build up ACORN years ago, and even his current campaign has given them large sums of money and he has spoken before them to woo their votes and support.
Did he know these fellow “community organizers” as he calls them were capable of these felonies and do nothign to prevent it? Probably. After all, he got his start in the dirty Chicago political system well known for rampant such abuses.
Then there is the fact Obama tried to pretend Ayers was just a guy in his neighborhood as if he had no connection to him. A bald faced lie.
Then Obama pretended as if Ayers is respectable, a professor in the neighborhood at a University. Professor he may be, but never respectable. Ayers committed treason, unrepentantly so. He is not in jail because of a technicality, and he has spent his years since unapologetically trying to radicalize youth to his own liberal persepective, an illegitimate purpose for our education system, which is there to educate, not prosyletize an ideology.
The fact Obama has refused to condemn Ayers speaks volumes. I don’t gave a hoot he was 8 years old when Ayers set off those bombs. I care about his collaboration, discipleship, tutelage, and patronage with this man since Obama did come of age. Share it on Kos, where they censor such facts. Give it the “Fact” headline, like you did in this trolling venture, if you be more than a disingenuous and willfully blind Obamaphile.
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“The means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.” Martin Luther King Jr.
“If you want peace, work for Justice.” Pope John Paul II
We ban mobys on sight, Andromsoft.
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:59AM EST (link)Good job trying to excuse away the guy who took advantage of a mentally handicapped person, though. Friend of yours?
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jonnot Saturday, October 18th at 9:20AM EST (link)that Mr. Justice’s vote will be corrected, since it was stolen from him. On the other hand, this does nothing to change the votes of all the mentally-challenged voters who will be voting for “the one” willingly. Not to mention those at the MSM newsdesks and in the print media.
One question...
jonnot Saturday, October 18th at 9:22AM EST (link)was this health-care provider an ACORN operative, and if so, was he paid for Mr. Justice’s vote?
Not the worst, but true colors
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:56AM EST (link)This election is not bringing out the worst in people. The Obamanation and his people are the worst in America. Like cockroaches running away from the light, we are seeing these folks in numbers and in the light like never before. The election has not made them worse, but many are seeing their true colors for the first time. Ayers, Rezko, Wright, ACORN, Odinga, Raines, Johnson, Farrahkan, Code Pink, and countless others…these are the Obamanation’s friedns, mentors, supports. He is them and will only represent them. In his world there is no room for the first amendment, or any other for that matter. If his campaign, and his surrogates, will try to destroy Joe the plumber, is there anyone who disagrees with him that will not face similar treatment? Look how quick the media is to totally vet Joe while,at the same, failing to look into any of the above friends of “that one.” No, this election is not bringing out the worst in people, this campaign has the worst of people out front.
What are you doing to stop the madness?
h2oman Saturday, October 18th at 10:01AM EST (link)I’m a Obama supporter (so don’t accuse me of being a troll) living in Florida.
Someone on your side of the fence wanted to suppress my freedom of speech and stole all the Obama signs from my street; My brother stopped speaking to me last week because I am a left-wing looney (He is a McCain/Pallin supporter)
I am so tired of the dirty, hateful tone of this campaign; I can’t wait for it to be over. Both sides are going nuts, including many of you here on Redstate. Please ask yourself this question: Are you helping to ratchet up the hatred in this campaign or calming the madness?
I was so mad this morning when I woke up and found my Obama and No on 2 signs gone from my front lawn. I phoned the Republican headquarters to ask them if this was how they intend to win the election. I spoke to a very nice women who explained that this was happening on both sides, we ended up having a very nice conversation agreeing that after this campaign is over we need to come together as Americans. I then went and had a nice conversation with a neighbor who has a McCain/Palin sign in here yard and she was so sorry someone took my signs and we had similar conversation about the need to respect each other and come together after the election.
I’m sharing this story in hopes that at least some of you on this site will tone down the comments and ask yourself before you post; Do I really want this comment to be this vicious? Please help to stop the madness.
Also, I will be posting this exact message at Huffington Post; I am trying very hard to be fair here, instead of getting up and 3:00 am and retaliating by stealing all the McCain/Palin signs on my street.
Get Used to It
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 10:17AM EST (link)The Obamantion represents the worst of America. He is a deceiver. If he wins, he will cause a revolt. Either the leftists will revolt because he is going to lead from the middle or the voters will revolt when he actually begins to “change America.” In either case, the anger will continue. Anytime a candidate so deceives the electorate this will be the result. Sorry about your signs, but wake up man. The leftists have been trashing soldiers fighting the war, preaching “God D… America”, burning effigees of the president, crashing funerals of soldiers, settting campaign signs on fire, calling 12 year old girls that wear a mccain/palin shirt racists. Your man has told crowds to “get in their face” and “If they bring a knife, we will bring a gun.” Look how your side is trying to destroy Joe the Plumber. Why? Because he had the audacity to ask a question that the Obamanation answered truthfully–a rare event indeed, one everyone now says was a mistake. Yes, in his campaign, honesty is a mistake. My friend, get used to it. This is the kind of America that the Obama’s can finally be proud of. One thing that should give you comfort. If he wins, he is likely to send men in black to the houses of his opponents in the middle of the night. Give him some time and he will probably catch those men that took your sign. Maybe you will even get the pleasure of seeing their heads danging from some one elses hands on TV. That should put your heart at ease. Hang in there, there is hope for you yet.
Thanks for proving my point so quickly
h2oman Saturday, October 18th at 10:44AM EST (link)*My friend, get used to it. This is the kind of America that the Obama’s can finally be proud of. One thing that should give you comfort. If he wins, he is likely to send men in black to the houses of his opponents in the middle of the night. *
Wow RedChevy64 thanks for proving my point so quickly.
What are you doing to stop the madness?
h2oman Saturday, October 18th at 10:44AM EST (link)I’m a Obama supporter (so don’t accuse me of being a troll) living in Florida.
Someone on your side of the fence wanted to suppress my freedom of speech and stole all the Obama signs from my street; My brother stopped speaking to me last week because I am a left-wing looney (He is a McCain/Pallin supporter)
I am so tired of the dirty, hateful tone of this campaign; I can’t wait for it to be over. Both sides are going nuts, including many of you here on Redstate. Please ask yourself this question: Are you helping to ratchet up the hatred in this campaign or calming the madness?
I was so mad this morning when I woke up and found my Obama and No on 2 signs gone from my front lawn. I phoned the Republican headquarters to ask them if this was how they intend to win the election. I spoke to a very nice women who explained that this was happening on both sides, we ended up having a very nice conversation agreeing that after this campaign is over we need to come together as Americans. I then went and had a nice conversation with a neighbor who has a McCain/Palin sign in here yard and she was so sorry someone took my signs and we had similar conversation about the need to respect each other and come together after the election.
I’m sharing this story in hopes that at least some of you on this site will tone down the comments and ask yourself before you post; Do I really want this comment to be this vicious? Please help to stop the madness.
Also, I will be posting this exact message at Huffington Post; I am trying very hard to be fair here, instead of getting up and 3:00 am and retaliating by stealing all the McCain/Palin signs on my street.
No hate on the left?
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 11:48AM EST (link)Where have you been the last eight years? I suggest you read the left blogs over the past 8 years. Don’t hear you complaining about the left? Was it not your guy that said, “Get in their face?” Wasn’t it your guy who used the langauge of street gangs when he threatened, “they bring a knife you bring a gun?”
A 12 year old girl was attacked as a racist because she wears a McCain/Palin t-shirt…not a problem. Joe is attacked this week for asking a question…not a problem. Code pink crashes McCain’s acceptance speech…no problem. People squat outside Bush’s rach saying hatful things…no problem. Obama supports wear t-shits saying abort Sarah Palin…no problem. Obama sits in the pew of hateful black liberation theology church for 20 years—the black KKK…no problem. Obama works side by side with a unrepentant terrorist…no problem. Murtha, Kerry, and Obama say our troops are killing and terrorizing Iraqis…no problem. Obama campaigns for a communist in Kenya…no problem. Obama won’t say the pledge of allegence…no problem. Obama supporters set fire to McCain signs…no problem.
Someone uses Obama’s middle name…big problem. Someone takes your sign…big problem.
Hate isn’t a new thing, your side is full of it. The hate will continue because your guy is a deceiver. He can’t be what he pretends to be if he is elected. He will have to be what the left thinks he will be OR what he pretends to be, but not both. So, because of the Obamanation, it will continue. It is his nature. As for me, his associations with the worst the America and world have to offer is a clear indicator that he would give those sick people what they want. Based on your defense of him, I must assume you are one of them as well.
In your mind, that means I am hateful. Thanks for making my point so quickly.
Stop Whining!
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:13PM EST (link)Just go get yourslef a new sign. Our country has bigger problems that that. By the way, it won’t cost your man a penny. It was paid for by the Larmans.
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7599837&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Hell, get yourself several thousand. While you at it, spread some of your wealth around and send the Larman’s a check. If you cared so much about the hate you talk about, demonstrate with an act of kindenss.
Stop Whining!
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:16PM EST (link)Just go get yourslef a new sign. Our country has bigger problems that that. By the way, it won’t cost your man a penny. It was paid for by the Larmans.
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7599837&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Hell, get yourself several thousand. While you at it, spread some of your wealth around and send the Larman’s a check. If you cared so much about the hate you talk about, demonstrate with an act of kindenss.
You should go back and read what I wrote
h2oman Saturday, October 18th at 12:17PM EST (link)You should go back and read what I wrote. I never once slandered your candidate. I acknowledged that the hatred is coming from both sides, and gave an example of how people from the right and the left can have constructive dialog with one another.
Compare that with what your wrote, coming to the final analysis that I was a “sick person”. Nice.
Well, at least no one threw...
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:18PM EST (link)a Molotov cocktail at your sign. Consider yourself lucky that the people who stole your sign didn’t act like Leftists.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Try posting it to DKos as well
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:19PM EST (link)and see what a warm reception you get.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
How do you know a McCain supporter stole your signs?
janis (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:27PM EST (link)Given the larcenous theme of Obama’s campaign, it’s just as likely that an Obama supporter stole it just to cause trouble.
You know, kind of like screaming that someone shouted “Kill Him!” at a Palin rally, only to find out that it didn’t happen. Or kind of like Obama howling “That’s RACIST!” everytime someone criticizes him on a fair point. There’s much more, but you can see where I’m going with this.
Trent Lott
welfaremom Saturday, October 18th at 12:28PM EST (link)Trent Lott said “and if Strom Thurmond was elected president we wouldn’t have all of the problems we have now” (or something to that effect). Obama has never conceded even a flicker of sympathy to the Weather Underground’s cause or tactics, whereas Sen. Lott openly committed himself to what a better world this could be if segregation just stayed it’s course. And if you heard Thurmond back in his presidential candidacy days, it was littered with extreme hatred and the wish to disenfranchise a significant portion of American citizens based on skin color.
Thurmond changed, but Lott was referring to racist Thurmond as having the cure to our social ills. Obama worked with Ayers on school-choice with private money, holding public schools accountable. Who doesn’t want that? It was a healthy partnership, not one that seeks to undermine the Republic. And here in America there are second chances if you abide by the laws. Strom Thurmond is forgiven for his extreme racist past became a more productive citizen, working with JC Watts, etc. Ayers is no longer a terrorist radical, but rather a respected educator that works to make our schools more effective. And judging by our position in the world concerning schools (21st in the world in student performance! Pathetic!), we need much more of these kinds of relationships.
You all got hoodwinked by worthless Steve Schmidt propaganda to distract you and are biting it. You have to think to be a citizen, not just brainwash yourself by listening to the same tired arguments over and over again. Democracy demands opposition, and so me as a welfare mom will give it like I take it (I have 7 illegitimate children). Your state would be blue if you knew what is good for ya.
Obama spent $150 million to "improve" education in Chicago ... How'd that work out?
Martin Knight (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:33PM EST (link)And now he wants to take that type of success nationwide.
Your a welfare mom like I'm the Queen of Bulgaria.
janis (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:34PM EST (link)In reality you are a twenty-something Obama supporter who is hoping to take some red meat back to DU, Kos, or one of the other hotbeds of dumbassery. Get over yourself and go home.
And you're just a moron
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 1:18PM EST (link)Ayers said, the day before 9/11 that he wished he’d done more [terrorist attacks} and that he wasn’t sorry for what he’d done. And today he stands proudly for a photograph with the flag under his feet in an alley.
Yea… this man’s done great things for Chicago and America.
And by the way, you missed bamboozeled. “Hoodwinked” and “bamboozeled” are 2 words straight out of a Malcolm X speech. Obama used them both in a speech to a predominately black audience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzGS76oP-50
He knew very well what those 2 words would mean to that audience. He understands the use of code words and buzz words.
He’s a manipulator and a user of the first order.
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Where's the story?
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 1:31PM EST (link)Where has the McCain campaign done anything even as remotely dispicable as changing a mentally handicapped person’s vote?
That news would be all over the place, if it had happened.
Do you see anyone in the MSM talking about Jack Justice? Of course you don’t. It was an Obama supporter.
And I’m sure that she got paid to take him to the voting booth. Medicare/Medicaid, his family, someone paid for her to take him out and be his caretaker for that trip to vote.
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Waste of time
h2oman Saturday, October 18th at 1:32PM EST (link)I have been reading this blog for almost three years, but I have not posted anything because I knew my political views would not be appreciated.
I thought maybe I had a story that would remind you all that perhaps the left and right can work together to keep this campaign from degrading to such a low level; I thought my conversation with the local McCain campaign and my republican neighbor would encourage a more civil dialog.
I guess I was wrong; It is very discouraging that in return I am labeled a “Whiney Sick Person”. I wish you all were more like my republican neighbor and the women I spoke to at the McCain headquarters. Too bad…you can’t seem to get past your partisan beliefs to even acknowledge what for me seems to be a fairly straight-forward story of encouragement during a nasty and horrible time.
Oh well. I won’t post again, go ahead an continue bashing this “Whiney, left-wing sick person”
Exactly Janis
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 1:54PM EST (link)Obama’s camp has taken several pages out of Donald Segretti’s Dirty Tricks handbook. Does any one know their history? Donald Segretti? Remember him?
Do the deed against yourself, so it looks like the other party is responsible. Attack your own city’s party headquarters and make it look like the Republicans did it. Kill people and make it look like it was a racial (black) crime (ala Charles Manson.)
It’s the oldest tactic in the world. Everyone will always question how “real” the crime is because of this. And it seems to have reached it’s zenith in this election cycle.
There will always be doubt in my mind that these dirty tricks weren’t done by the Democrats in order to make the Republicans look bad. The Democrats have launched the ugliest, most devisive campaign I can remember. It would not be beyond them to do this.
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MrSandman (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 1:56PM EST (link)I agree with you….and I’m not alone.
If it’s any comfort I think the nasty rhetoric and blatant misrepresentations are working in your candidate’s favor. It’s not that Obama is the better man….but it’s clear he’s the better politician.
This “Joe the Plumber” crap is a perfect example. If this is the best the GOP can do while the nation’s economy burns in front of our eyes we’re all in big trouble. The only folks who are buying this swill are the same folks that still believe things like “Obama is a Muslim”. Frankly it’s embarrassing.
The vast majority of this nation is sick of the attack politics, and I think the GOP is going to pay dearly. While it might have worked in the past, we, as a nation, are facing the biggest economic crisis since TGD.
Nobody cares about Ayer’s living room when they are facing losing their own home or job.
The GOP has a couple weeks left to deliver a coherent plan for economic recovery. If they fail to do that and continue the attack politics they will lose…and lose big.
“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”
— Republican Senator Jim DeMint
How do you know a McCain supporter didn't do this?
MrSandman (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 2:01PM EST (link)You know….just to cause trouble….
Stupid.
But what makes that less stupid than inferring that BO supporters are stealing their own signs.
Get a freaking grip.
“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”
— Republican Senator Jim DeMint
The Left is Open Minded and Tolerant?
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 3:26PM EST (link)The lefties think they might finally win an election and now they want to preach about tolerance and civil discourse? Wretch…excuse me while I cough up a lung. The country has had to listen to your whining and crap for 8 years. Pleassssse. Well, we will see how you like it when we point out the election is a fraud and he is a usurper. Can’t wait till they start burning his effigee and screaming for impeachment. The differenece is the Obamantion really has ties to terrorists, communists, seedy slum lords, and vote fraud operations. In fact, today the news is that his campaign is footing the bill for ACORNs defense. And, just Tuesday he had told us he had no ties to ACORN at all. Can anyone say, LIAR? For my part, the man is a racist, communist, terrorist loving, lying thug. “Obamas chickens are coming home…to roost.”
Huh?
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 3:40PM EST (link)They don’t like attack politics? Huh? They are turned off by republicans but…
They like have hundreds of thousands of fake demorcrat driven registrations? They like being intimidated at voting places as was done by your man in the primaries? They like having free speech attacked in Missouri as their governor has been quick to point out? They like a candidate that tells them to “get in their face?” They like a candidate that says if they bring a kife you bring a gun?” They like a candidate that bashes his country, both at home and abroad? They like a candidate that gives speeches stating that America soldiers are terrorizing women and children in the dead of nite? They like a candidate that will gin up the attack machine on an average American because he asked a question of “the one” which caught the Obamanination in a moment of truth? They like a candidate that attackes the daughter of an opponent for her pregnancy? The like a candidate that attacks women for having a family and a career?
Come on, the facts don’t support your conclusion. The truth is, they love attack politics. Its just that your guy is uglier at it. And, for that, he is ahead in the polls.
Is he a muslim?
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 4:21PM EST (link)The question is who deos think that.
Answer: The entire muslim world does.
Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi is saying exactly that to Al Jazeera. See the video for yourself.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78309
Farrahkhan thinks he is the messiah. See the video for yourself.
http://www.sodahead.com/question/169787/farrakhan-obama-messiah-tape/#
You would have to be a fool to think that Al Qaeda is not cheering the Obamanation one. See evidence.
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/20/cnn-al-qaeda-congratulates-obama-on-wi-primary-victory/
There is a proverb that says: “The friend of my enemy is my enemy.”
Obama is the Osama candidate. Is he muslim or not–that doesn’t really matter when the muslim world thinks he is and the most prominent muslim in America thinks he is the messiah and Osama is praying for his victory.
Go ahead and stand on the side of Osama. Why am I not surprised.
So we now care what Quaddafi and Farrakhan have to say?
MrSandman (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 5:32PM EST (link)Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I’m a lifelong Republican. I’m voting for John McCain.
What I am not is blinded by partisanship and rhetoric.
McCain is blowing this election by trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
It’s very disrespectful to the American people to think that they are not smart enough to see through the bluster. They want to hear how the GOP is going to bring jobs and security to America….not empty rhetoric about plumbers and terrorists.
I guess when we get our ass handed to us in November we might figure that out. Or not.
“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”
— Republican Senator Jim DeMint
You have to fight your in.
RedChevy64 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:09PM EST (link)In an ideal world, you are right, but we are in a fight with a street thug. There are two weeks to go and it is what it is. As I said before, the marxist, racist, terrorist loving, fraud is ahead because he is protected by the media and is fighting dirty–street thugs, foreign cash, fake registrations (30,000 felons in Florida alone). Come on. It is exactly because McCain is a moderate that he is having difficulty. You said saying he is a muslim is stupid. Well, yes I would agree if you stopped there, but I didn’t say that. Pointing out that the fanatical muslims we have been at war with, and attacked us on 9-11, think he is a muslim and are supporting him is not stupid. At this point, this election is not about the economy. People don’t even know what the economy is. It is about whom you trust to lead the country. For those that are really considering this choice, they will be asking themselves the trust question only. For McCain, it will be do I trust him even with an R next to his name? For the Obamanation, it will be do I trust him even though I know nothing about him? If McCain was making the case on trust, he would be winning. It would be easy to destroy the Obamanation on the trust issue, look at his associations and his record–that which hasn’t been covered up. Americans aren’t smart enough for an intellectual conversation about tax policy, the economy, the sub-prime market. Hell, 40% support this guy because he has D next to his name. He could be the anti-Christ and they wouldn’t care. What have been missing all along are a clear, articulate defense of capitalism, liberty, and the meaning of our Constitution. In his moderate kind of way, McCain is trying to make that arguement. But, for now, the war rages in the street. We can play orchestra music on the deck of the Titanic or we can bail out the water. If we lose this one, our country will be irrepably harmed.
Wow ... a real live "Bipartisan" ...
Martin Knight (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:22PM EST (link)Let’s be honest here; the talking heads’ perennial claim that negative campaigns turn voters off (the reason why politicians always use it is not because they’re stupid, it’s because it works) is a myth – just as much as the conventional wisdom that partisan divisions in politics (as if anywhere near 30% of the voting public is even aware of what goes in the nations’ capitals and city halls) is the cause of voter apathy.
This is the sort of conventional wisdom that predominates the rarified air inside-the-beltway pundits circulate in – long on convention and short on wisdom … but then, it sounds “nice” so it’s unthinkingly accepted.
Especially by people of malleable political principle like so-called lifelong Republicans who spend all their time attacking their fellow Republicans for tactics they give Democrats a pass for.
Well I guess we will see if it worked soon enough.
MrSandman (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:32PM EST (link)There’s nothing “bipartisan” about addressing the only issue that matters right now.
There’s nothing “bipartisan” about presenting a plan to bring jobs and economic security back.
But you go ahead and keep yelling “socialism” and “hate whitey”. I’m sure that will make up the double digits we’re down in PA.
I’m sure the 100K people who showed up in Missouri to see Obama today will certainly reconsider after hearing about Ayer’s living room for the 1000th time.
Knock yourself out. Just please be man enough to admit how flawed this campaign was after we get stomped in November. There’s a lot more at stake than just the WH. The way things are looking we will be lucky if we’re not facing a overwhelming majority in the Congressional houses also.
But hey!! There’s always 2012 right??
I’m sure Palin will be a force to be reckoned with….you betcha!!
LOL
“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”
— Republican Senator Jim DeMint
It should give you pause to consider that most of
janis (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:36PM EST (link)our radical Muslim enemies around the world have endorsed Obama. It should concern you that Jesse Jackson, when in Evian, France, told the crowd that Obama would repair our relations with the Muslim world with his “ecumenical faith” and that no longer would our country be bowing to the Zionists.
Or does none of that resonate in any meaningful way? Thugs, murderers, and dictators the world over have endorsed Obama. That should tell you right there that he is a huge danger to our country.
No, we just don't feel like giving wacky socialists any quarter.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:40PM EST (link)How is a person supposed to be “bi-partisan” about abortion? You can’t split the difference on that evil. How do you find common ground with progressives that see our divinely inspired Constitution as a list of suggestions? I believe in ennumerated powers that were granted to government by the people as per original intent. You don’t. I don’t want to get along with you, I want to defeat you electorally and send you and your liberal brethren back to the outlier positions of the bell curve from wince you came. It may not happen this time, but if this nation goes hard left with Obama, you’re guiding progressive philosophy is like a ticking time bomb. It eventually explodes and leaves people wondering what the hell they were thinking when they ceded power to wacky socialists. As long as we have a 2nd Amendment in this country, lib governance can never go too far that it can’t be corrected.
Tim Schieferecke
You've got to be kidding me!!!
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:48PM EST (link)Paying for ACORN’s defense???
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sp2008 (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 6:52PM EST (link)Even if one is not concerned about the relationship between Obama and Ayers, it should at the very least be troubling that HE LIED about that relationship and has changed the story several times (FACT). He went from a guy in the neighborhood to someone who according to his campaign manager he was “certainly friendly” with. It isn’t necessarily the relationship that some people are worried about, it is the lies that went along with it. If he is willing to look the American people in the eye and tell a lie about that what else is he less than truthful about?
Fight for McCAIN and Don't Quit
LatinosforMcCain (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:11PM EST (link)Listen Folks we all need to stand up and VOTE hard for John McCain. I live here in the Bronx NY and believe me there are tons of Puerto Rican that are voting for McCain. Don’t listen to those Liberals Media News about Latinos going to obama, it is not true. I know there many, many puertorican that are going to vote for McCAIN so don’t give up floks down by VA, MO, NM, NV, OH, AND FL go vote for McCain bring in three to five friends, famaily to the booth and vote for McCain. We will win McCain/Palin08
So you're suggesting that violence is a reasonable response?
MrSandman (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:12PM EST (link)That’s called treason sir.
And you think I’m on the fringe??
LOL
Perchance are you one of those nutters who thinks that the military will not accept BO as their CINC should he win? That’s one of my favorite bits of flotsam I’ve seen floated lately.
Abortion is not the issue that matters right now. At least not to mainstream Americans…you know…bell curve and all. Those folks are worried about how they are going to pay for Christmas this year….or how they are going to send the kids to college….or how they are going to retire on a 401K that has been cut in half the past month.
And no….I’m not a socon by any definition. I voted for Rudy. He would be CRUSHING BO right now….but NO!!….he’s a cross dressing NYC liberal!!…but that’s a whole nother diary.
One would think that the socons would understand the importance of substantial content over empty rhetoric more than most.
You all say that SCOTUS is critical…but yet continue the silly attacks that just turn people off and away from the GOP…essentially wrapping up the Presidency and future SCOTUS picks up for the dems in a nice big ribbon.
THE ISSUE is the economy.
Period.
End of story.
People are hurting like never before. They are going to vote the man who presents to them the most reasonable plan for economic recovery.
If you don’t get that by now….well….
Never mind.
I’m done.
I’m not here to get into arguments with fellow Republicans. I’m obviously not cut out for the hyper partisanship that is filling the air around here these days. I’m thinking we’ll all be best served if I step out of the RS picture for now and go back to lurking silently.
Take care and good luck.
“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”
— Republican Senator Jim DeMint
You, a Republican LOL (side hurts from laughing)
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:22PM EST (link)And no, it is not treason to enforce the Constitution from those that undermine it. If there ever comes a time that truly tries mens’ souls like labor camps for Obama dissenters, that’s when the 2nd Amendment will truly shine you doofus. A well armed citizenry is the best check on government incursion and the 2nd Amendment is a founding principle. Defending the Constitution is NOT treason you schmuck.
Tim Schieferecke
Tim, he's a "Noonan Republican." To them,
janis (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:29PM EST (link)folks like us are just embarrassments. Conservatism is all well and good in theory, just don’t try to practice it out in public.
Yep, you know it's bad when you have to find bi-partisanship within your own party.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 7:35PM EST (link)I don’t know though janis, there have been a lot of Obamatools that claim to be Republicans around lately. I don’t know what their angle is, but they don’t pass the smell test. In other words they smell like donkeys, not elephants to me. I calls em as I sees em.
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At some point, our Founders thought violence was justified
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:09PM EST (link)They did fight a way you know.
Nobody is saying we are anywhere near that point now.
However, an armed citizenry deters bad government in the same way it deters bad citizens.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
I will grant you that human frailty knows no boundaries
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:16PM EST (link)but we are not fans of the “moral equivalence” reasoning that liberals are so fond of.
Some Americans are murderers.
Iran has a murderous regime.
We are both at fault.
True, but putting some proportionality into the analysis reveals that Americans are the most generous people on earth, and the Iranian government is a tyrannical evil that is a blight on the planet.
Again, you can say both are flawed and it would be true. But would it be insightful? Would that analysis be the basis for treating both sides the same way?
The are Republican hacks, frauds, and crooks out there. However, the bad behavior is primarily on the left not the right. If for no other reason than the press would highlight malfeasance on the right, while actively hiding such things on the left.
Bottom Line: your both sides stink is as persuasive as a battering husband beating his wife for lying to him. The wife may be flawed, but she doesn’t deserve a beating.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
And yes, I believe the military will have a huge challenge getting soldiers to re-up if it's President Obama.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:21PM EST (link)That is a huge problem. That “air raiding villages” comment didn’t exactly endear him to many of our finest. Why would they want to fight for a man that will put so many rules of engagement roadblocks in their way that they can’t shoot back until actually hit? He has no appreciation for the real dangers confronting this nation, and that my friend is dangerous.
Tim Schieferecke
Hel* No
soldier4hillary (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:36PM EST (link)I am in the military and supporting OR voting for Obama is a huge moral conflict. From his “civilian army” that he stated would be just as strong and well funded as our current military. To his campaign using “race baiting and pandering” as a political strategy and tactic.
We don’t need a CIC who uses racial divide to win a election..
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Fear is a thief in the night that steals your hope.
Hopelessness is an enemy that kills your will.
I’ve been there once and I will not let them in again.
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Let me throw out a couple names at random...
I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 8:41PM EST (link)Randy Weaver.
David Koresh.
Now how does having guns deter bad government again? The days when a private civilian could have armaments capable of making them a threat to a first rate standing army are long since gone. Notice that Weaver was up against the FBI and Koresh was up against the BATF. Not exactly front like combat units those, and yet they still flattened the heavily armed civilians without any problem at all.
If you really want to be armed against an uncontrolled government the best option is to learn how to hack. That’s one playing field where the private citizen does still have the possibility of actually being a threat. Guns, not so much.
In a real insurrection scenario guns aren’t all that useful. Look at Iraq. What has been by far the most effective tactic of the insurgents there? IED. Improvised Explosive Devices. When the insurgents try stand up fights against our guys they get mowed down.
If you want guns because you like them that’s one thing. Ditto if you want to use them to hunt. But pretending that any number of rifles and shotguns and pistols makes you anything but a joke to a SWAT team, much less areal armed forces unit, is just self deception.
The police have to have just cause to enter your home Tamblin.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:00PM EST (link)Police have to have just cause and an issued warrant in most cases other than exigent circumstances. I know lots of cops, and none of them would ever enter a dwelling without the legal protection of a valid warrant. Anytime they act outside the bounds of the Constitution, they are just another home invader in the eyes of the law and self defense rules. That will never change. It would get real messy real fast if they ever did try to do so.
Tim Schieferecke
I'm trying real hard
I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:06PM EST (link)to figure out how that connects to my argument above.
The assertion was made that owning guns prevents abuse by an out of control government. Are you now asserting the government will never get out of control? If not then how does your saying cops will never enter a house without a warrant possibly relate to the topic?
Right, to a point..
Putter (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:14PM EST (link)Those individuals had an extremely small group of followers. The insurgency in Iraq was a fraction of the population. That fraction lost because they slaughtered innocent people. There are at least 40 million gun owners in this country. It is hard to compare the U.S. to any other country.
Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…
As it is currently constructed, not on a grand scale no.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:20PM EST (link)I was speaking in future tense for if they do get out of control. Most police even then would not want to follow an unconstitutional order to carry out unconstitutional directives. They will always think twice about carrying out unconstitutional directives , because they would know there would be a high probability of at least one of their number leaving in a body bag. As I said above, the 2nd Amendment is the safeguard of everything else. Counterinsurgencies against your own country’s population would get really, really ugly especially in this country.
Tim Schieferecke
Oh shush ... First of all, I'm *Black* ...
Martin Knight (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:23PM EST (link)So the “Hating Whitey” thing doesn’t bug me. Second, I wrote this and this …
McCain has to get on the field when it comes to the economy, but that doesn’t mean that the negative ads must stop.
Wow RoxannaDanna you don't reach to much if you didn't know he took...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 9:56PM EST (link)Citibank to court to force them to give subprime loans to “the poor”
For your enlightenment…
The crook and liars
Unified Patriots – How-To:
Activists Taking Action
Didn't say it guaranteed anything, just saying it helps
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 10:08PM EST (link)There is a reason why fascist states don’t permit gun ownership.
We have laws against murder. Murders still happen. Does that mean laws against murder are useless?
We have guns in part to deter governmental attempts at subjugation. Sometimes, the government acts improperly. Does this mean guns are useless?
I didn’t think I had to be as explicit as I am above, but since you challenged me on it …
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Islam is a paternalistic religions, if the father is deemed a muslim, so is the son
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 10:12PM EST (link)unless the son is an apostate.
We are supposed to care about what the world thinks on so many issues, but for some reason, not this issue?
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
That's an excellent point JSobieski.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 10:28PM EST (link)There is this also. If the Muslim world believes that Obama is a Muslim (regardless of what Obama believes or is) because his father was a Muslim and he were to assume the Presidency, the United States would be seen from that point forward as being a Muslim land. The Muslims have been fighting “holy wars for over a thousand years, and reclaiming Muslim lands that have fallen into the hands of the “infidel” becomes a compulsary Jihad in their eyes. That is quite problematic for us, because it wouldn’t even matter if Obama said “I’m not a Muslim” everyday for the rest of his life. They could use the once a Muslim land, always a Muslim land argument to infinity. Just ask Spain about it. The Moors lost it in the 15th century and they’ve never forgot about it.
Tim Schieferecke
The difference is
I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 10:29PM EST (link)that when murders happen the law is still useful for the purpose of punishing the guilty. When the government steamrollers your militia band your guns are just bits of smoking metal left in the crater.
Put it this way- when was the last case where possession of guns by private citizens meaningfully impacted an out of control government?
Any examples in modern history?
Certainly not Hussein era Iraq. The country was awash in small arms and yet he continued to oppress the majority. Chechnya? Georgia? Not really, no.
Are there any supporting examples in modern times of guns doing anything to ameliorate government abuses?
Hey, there are few McCain coolaid drinkers here
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 11:07PM EST (link)A couple of months ago, I thought this site was going to self destruct due to the anti-McCain sentiments.
I am not a huge fan of McCain or his campaign, but stopping Obama is important.
I agree that McCain should be doing a much better job on his economic policy, but punishing the country for that failing makes no sense.
Obama will sink the economy.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
In the United States, you would probably have to go back a while
JSobieski (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 11:44PM EST (link)In foreign countries, totally different story.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Excuse me Jaded...
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 2:44AM EST (link)but I do read. From of his comment, it sounded like this was ANOTHER new defense that Obama was paying for. Posted as:
“In fact, today the news is that his campaign is footing the bill for ACORNs defense.”
Note the words TODAY THE NEWS… as though this is a new and different revelation.
It’s not neccessary to be so rude and arrogant.
I openly admit that I’m not as knowledgeable as most of you. I know you’re much smarter than I am. I don’t spend as much time reading online as most of you do.
That’s the biggest reason I read here.
I thought maybe I’d learn something. One thing I am learning is that some of you can be rude and condescending.
My apologies for being stupid.
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dbecraft Sunday, October 19th at 2:58AM EST (link)with that moniker, I know you have a good sense of humor… Just remember that after all, you were questioned by Jaded…
We may be suspicious, but not all of us are jaded…heh.
Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”
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RoxannaDanna (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 3:26AM EST (link)I do have a sense of humor. But when I feel like I’m being condescended to, I kinda get my back up.
I haven’t even been posting here for a month yet. I’m new to this site and I’m not as smart as everyone else. I’m not trying to present myself as anything other than I am.
I know it’s easy to have little patience for the ignorant. But I don’t want to remain ignorant and that’s the reason I read here. Thank you for cutting me some slack.
Anyway, you gotta be a good and honorable person… you golf!
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dbecraft Sunday, October 19th at 3:38AM EST (link)Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”
respectable and mainstream
finaljeopardy Sunday, October 19th at 8:50AM EST (link)“And here in America there are second chances if you abide by the laws.”
The WU members Bill Clinton pardoned who served jail time abode by the law. Ayers got off on a technicality and bragged about it with his wife. “Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it’s a great country.”
We can safely assume Obama and his wife agree with that statement. Not enough bombs, never been proud, mean and ignorant. It’s all the same. You can hear Ayers when Obama’s lips move.
Fact: Ayers wasn't mentioned in the article you are replying to.
Moriah (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:25AM EST (link)I know Moe already banned you, but if you make the duplicate account you’re likely thinking of doing, a piece of advice…
If you’re going to spam, at least keep on topic, for goodness’s sake.
Blessings,
Moriah