A very good, very eloquent, very powerful case for a cause I do not believe in. It was delivered well, The atmospherics were impressive, if more than a little bit imperial. But at the end of the day, we have to decide whether we are going to buy into a political ideology merely because it is dressed up in eloquent words.
Can we? Harsh shot after harsh shot was leveled at John McCain and the Republican Party. That’s fine; politics ain’t beanbag. But once the harsh shots are finished, it is more than a little bit disingenuous to suddenly and self-righteously pronounce that we ought to put aside the old politics of imputing bad motives and ill intent to our political opponents. Republicans didn’t just get politely disagreed with in that speech. Republicans got accused of every nasty thing under the sun and merely because Obama stopped every once in a while to assure us that Brutus John McCain is an honorable man, doesn’t mean that he meant it. And it certainly doesn’t mean that he wanted his political supporters to believe that he meant it. The new politics of Barack Obama are not new at all. They are fake beyond measure.
(One can, of course, see the hypocrisy in all of this by examining the “thoughts” of the aspiring patron saint of Obamanian politics, Andrew Sullivan. Sullivan believes that a YouTube John McCain put together to genuinely and sincerely congratulate Barack Obama merely means that it is “very hard for a celebrity as celebrated as McCain to be upstaged. Or up-stadiumed.” He approvingly quotes James Wolcott’s statement that House Deputy Republican Whip Eric Cantor is “essentially an unregistered Israeli lobbyist,” calling such claptrap “entertaining.” Of course, we may remind ourselves that Cantor is Jewish while we reflect on the fact that Sullivan is pleasantly amused by the implicit–or not-so-implicit–accusation that as a Jew, Cantor has dual loyalties.)
As for the substance of the speech–to the extent that there actually was substance–at some point in time, Barack Obama will have to explain how it is that he will be able to force American companies to stay in the United States when he does nothing whatsoever to cut (and even eliminate) the corporate tax rate. He will have to explain how it is that America will remain economically competitive when he proposes to fully bring protectionism back in fashion. Economic times are surely tougher than they have been in the past, but listening to Obama and the Democrats for the past four days, one would think that we are in the midst of yet another Great Depression. We are not, of course, but that doesn’t stop the sob stories from flowing like the tears they are supposed to evoke.
Do not get me wrong: I am not hard-hearted to those who suffer. I just am outraged that politicians feel they have to constantly and consistently appeal to our worst fears by making it seem as if suffering is everywhere and just around the corner from your home, barreling towards you to consign you to the depths of Hellish misery and that the only way to escape is to actually be reassured and grateful when Bureaucratic Man comes around and tells us “I am from the Government and I am here to help.” We ought to know by now that governmental “help” is nothing of the kind. The same people that screw up your day while you are waiting in line at the Post Office, while you are waiting at the DMV or while you are dealing with the recalcitrant IRS gnome who is impervious to reason are the ones who will be put in charge of your health care, will administer tax policy and will usurp your right and the right of your community to raise and educate your children. All the pretty words in the world can’t hide that ugly fact.
And as for foreign policy? Barack Obama may tell us that he is ready for a debate, but what will he debate with? His reformed ideas about the surge and the counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq? Afraid not; Obama hasn’t yet gotten around to admit that he was wrong when it came to judging the surge and the counterinsurgency strategy. His ideas about how to combat Russian aggression in Georgia? Afraid not; Obama has been too busy blaming John McCain for . . . something, while not saying a word about how he and Joe Biden would stand up to Vladimir Putin. Did we hear anything about dealing with China and India? Nope. Dealing with Africa? Nope. Dealing with the European Union? Nuh-uh. So where is this preparedness for a foreign policy debate that we are assured Barack Obama has?
I’m sure, of course, that the speech has many fans. A few of them are supposed to be non-partisan. I just wonder whether we, as a country, are going to let substance-free eloquence rule the day. Will we? Or will we look past the prettiness of the words and ask whether in the end, they mean anything?
The latter approach is how to best decide an election. The former approach is seductively easy to adopt. The Obama campaign wants you to adopt it. They hope that if you do, you won’t ask any questions about the location of the beef.
Daniel Horowitz
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Jake Walker
Watched, Didn't Listen
muxedo76 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:20PM EST (link)I watched the speech while I was on the phone so I didn’t listen to any of it. But one thing I noticed is that his head is on a swivel. He swings between teleprompters so quickly it almost makes you dizzy.
It was a great speech...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:26PM EST (link)McCain is not going to be able to top it.
Luckily, the election is far enough away that Obama can be torn down piece by piece.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Chuckle
OccamsRazor (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:27PM EST (link)Everything we expected-entirely rhetorical hogwash. Empty suit with fantastic writers and Soros money building stages. Here we come (with issues).
Different measures.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:30PM EST (link)Obama is measured on glitz and delivery.
McCain will be measure on content.
Glitz never survives the moment.
that's what they said about Reagan...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:36PM EST (link)And by the time the democrats figured it out, they were dead.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
ditto - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:37PM EST (link)1
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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
The speech was awful.
PSDA (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:38PM EST (link)It was a thing of beauty for those who’ve already tasted the Kool Aid, but the reactions of Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and Andy Sullivan are not what’s important.
I’m extremely confidant that this speech didn’t have a lasting impact where it matters… with people on the fence. Obama will likely come out of this convention with a bounce, but the angry, divisive, person we saw tonight is NOT the Obama we’ve been sold by the media and the Obama campaign.
A coworker and I had a good laugh
jarrod21 Thursday, August 28th at 11:40PM EST (link)You don’t really have to watch tonight because you already knew what he was going to say:
The economy sucks, the war sucks, McCain sucks, America sucks, and I’m the only solution to the problem. Hopechange, hopechange, puppies and sunshine, and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
I watched the Cowboys 3rd stringers vs. the Vikings 3rd stringers instead.
You missed a ton...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:47PM EST (link)This was a speech unlike any that Kerry or Gore would give. It wasn’t the speech the crowd really wanted.
From the country music (not rock) to the 95% of Americans getting tax cuts (not just raise taxes on rich) to the American Flags to the huge crowd to no capital gains for entrepreneurs etc.
This was a speech where Obama made it clear he wants to fight for the “Reagan Democrats” (and the “Hillary Democrats”).
He has changed the game.
We are lucky McCain is running – I really believe someone like Fred would be dead man walking.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
No, McCain cannot top this speech
BurkeanBadger (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:51PM EST (link)But he doesn’t have to. He has never attempted to match Saint Barry in rhetorical flourish or eloquence (i.e. adeptness with a teleprompter). Yes, it was a “good” speech in that it was moving and inspiring. But, so what? That is to be expected from him at this point; no one of any political stripe doubts that he can deliver moving and inspiring words. They doubt whether there is any substance behind it.
McCain does not have to top or even match this speech and if he tried it would probably backfire (come off as insincere and gimmicky). What he has to do is deliver a solid, grounded, and convincing response. One that reinforces his gravitas, something he has in abundance and Obama, for all his money, eloquence and showiness (and perhaps because of these things), lacks and will not possess any more on November 4.
that's what they SAID
David Hinz (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:51PM EST (link)but that didn’t make it true. Obama is no
Reagan.
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
How can....
forscigrad Thursday, August 28th at 11:52PM EST (link)95% of Americans get a tax cut when a huge portion of them already don’t pay taxes to begin with?
Did anyone notice Matthews' voice?
Nick Haynes (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:57PM EST (link)Before the speech, it seemed to be his normal self. After the speech, he sounded somewhat hoarse…almost like he had just gotten done wearing his voice out screaming or something. Odd.
If you’re not networking, you’re not helping.
Try watching a replay of the Carter-Reagan debate
gensec (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:58PM EST (link)… and then ask yourself who was talking substance as opposed to style and platitudes. The “There you go again” line has been replayed enough times to overwrite any other recollection, but throughout the debate Reagan was nailing Carter on his logical errors and the failures of his ideology. What’s often forgotten about the “There you go again” line, is that it was Reagan’s preface for yet another correction of a factual misstatement by Carter.
Even measured merely by political skills, Obama is not remotely another Reagan, not even another Bill Clinton. (I’ll give him Hillary) And trying to compare Obama to Reagan on substance would be a sad joke.
Go Obama!
Wellred Friday, August 29th at 12:06AM EST (link)First thing I noticed–where did his gray hair go?? Did he run out of Liquid Paper?? Second thing I noticed–Does he think he’s Baracrotes? What’s with the ACRAPolis Temple getup?? I thought he was trying to distance himself from the “Greek” rumors, and now this??
Anyway, this “speech” will go down in history as one of the lamest, nastiest, most ridiculous (ok, Baracrotes, we believe you that homosexuals can’t visit their partners in the hospital—yeah, right!)
If he gets a “bounce” I’d be very surprised–if so, it will be very short lived.
I believe we can all agree that the country will vote for a black candidate for President–the question is really whether the country will put color before experience and qualification in an effort to prove its color-blindness.
What I thought
liberalrepublican (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:06AM EST (link)I liked that part. I figure I’m in the 95% and I sure as heck would like a tax cut.
I also liked the capital gains break for small business. I could use the money.
I heard both those promises clearly.
Now as a Republican, my more rational side said I’ll believe it when I see it.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
This was a dull speech, badly delivered
septembergurl (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:07AM EST (link)I have to admit I listened, didn’t watch, so maybe it was better with visuals.
A long, boring stump speech, tedious and strangely angry delivery.
This speech will be quickly and mercifully forgotten.
Tonight's speech ....
victor_cocchia (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:21AM EST (link)showed me something and convinced me of something else.
First…it showed me that Sen. Obama believes he is in more trouble than his followers wish to acknowledge or admit. The themes being repeated the most are about the tax cuts, the capital gains, I noticed the comment about country music and American Flags. He understands he is in trouble and is having to move swiftly to the right if he has any chance of winning in November.
He, and his staff, understand now, clearly, that the country is not swallowing what he is serving for lunch and he better change the menu for dinner or we (American voting public) will look for a different place to eat (can someone say Continential/BBQ).
The problem with this strategy is that people will see through him. The 95% thing is number one. While most people will be like, wow! 95% only the rich guys are getting stuck, enough people, pundits and hopefully journalists will call him out on the fact that only 50% pay taxes and whoops there goes that point.
I think you can follow my logic. I dont think that the American people will be fooled by his words, though the lights that are still flashing in their eyes from the glitz may blind them for a few days (hence the polls for the next week)
Second…I have thought, at least hopefully, that McCain would eek out a win, but after tonight, I fully believe McCain will win, and possibly convincingly. He has shown, proven if you will, to be a person that outlasts his opponents, and quite convincingly wins in the end.
He did it in Vietnam with his captors. While they put the soldiers on show for the liberals and international media, he refused to play the game (not going home when offered). He outlasted them, and in doing so defeated them. He has done the same with the Republican field in the primaries. Who, 18 or even 12 months ago, would have thought he would have been our nominee, but, he proved us wrong, out lasting the other candidates and winning early, and convincingly.
He will do the same with the inexperienced Senator Obama. Maybe if the Democratic nominee had more experience he would be able to outfox and outplay and outlast McCain, but not now. McCain is building in momentum, he was and has been the last four weeks and even with this convention bump it will not be close to enough to erase that momentum.
McCain will continue to build, and as people take a look at him this fall, they will increasingly see that the choice is obvious. While McCain is not the favorite of Republicans (this one included) he is a solid choice, and now that he is onboard with SCOTUS nominees, I think he will be a solid President (sans the myth of Global Warming).
I just think that he will outlast Obama and in the end we will all scratch our heads and go, how on earth did this guy beat Obama. Moreso our friends on the other end of the political spectrum.
“It’s not tyranny we desire; it’s a just, limited, federal government.” -
Alexander Hamilton
Great Speeches
Nevile Friday, August 29th at 12:23AM EST (link)Barack Obama gave a great speech. So did Joe Biden. So did Bill Clinton. So did Hillary Clinton. What the last three have in common that the first one lacks is a track record. Joe Biden is the one that impressed me most of all, not only because of the sincerity and eloquence that he expressed his views with, but because of his long track record backing up his words. Bill and Hillary said what they had to say, but in the end, their assertions that Obama has the qualifications to be president were just that: assertions without proof to back them up.
Obama talks beautifully and movingly, but ultimately talk is cheap. Where’s the beef? Where is the record of action, not talk? It isn’t there because Obama has not had the time to accumulate it. He’s been too busy running for president to build up a record.
His clarion call for action in Afghanistan has no weight. When the chips were down, and he was called to his duty as a senator to chair his committee to hold hearings on Afghanistan, he blew them off to pursue his own personal ambition. That dereliction of duty is indicative of Senator Obama and defines him, as all actions do. He talks a great story, but he has never actually done anything.
There are probably thousands of taxicab drivers and barber shop philosophers throughout the nation who have been not only vocal, but eloquent, on the need to take action in Afghanistan, but that does not qualify any of them to be president of the United States.
For all his golden oratory, Obama is still a lightweight whose rhetoric does not match John McCain’s long record of service and achievement. Ever hear the phrase “the wisdom of experience”? Experience is a critical component of judgement. John McCain has both in spades.
Totally disagree
Tennyson (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:37AM EST (link)Even though I’m a partisan, I thought the speech was a big let down. The crowd seemed underwhelmed.
Sure, the McCain and Bush bashing got some cheers and the staging was good, but the content was trite. This was the same speech we get form every Democratic convention and I think the objective audience will realize that it is just a different kind of “more of the same.”
McCain should be able to inspire and challenge in a way that seemed hollow for Obama.
“The great thing about history is that there is always more of it”
Didn't You Hear?
BigGator5 (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:39AM EST (link)Gravitas died…
Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)

The difference between Reagan and Obama is...
Nick Haynes (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:40AM EST (link)that, where Obama has glitz, Reagan had the glitz but also the depth of content and substance.
If you’re not networking, you’re not helping.
From the dark side
bcoley Friday, August 29th at 12:50AM EST (link)I hope the following will make sense and will ask a small, but valid question.
In some of the responses in this thread, as well as some of the McCain supporter responses to the Obama speech delivered on the 24-hr news channels, I hear something of a “He hurt our feelings” attitude. Obama criticized our candidate. He went negative with one vicious attack after another!
Will someone who shares this line (and I fully acknowledge the presence of many on this board who specifically rejected that kind of response), how can Republicans even consider calling Obama’s speech negative when — and this is but one example — Senator McCain on multiple occasions has declared that Senator Obama would be willing to lose a war to win an election?
I’m not asking for a defense of the McCain attack — You may think it’s effective and spot-on; it’s a free country. Simply tell me how, when your nominee essentially accuses Obama of being a traitor at heart, you can even think of calling what Obama did in his speech as too negative?
McCain’s denials notwithstanding, when you say your opponent would lose a war to gain personal political advantage, you are attacking your opponent’s patriotism (true patriots don’t lose wars to win elections!). If that’s the character of your kettle, how do you dare say anything about the other side’s pot?
Thanks for reading and responding,
Bill Coley
Truth is a defense for libel.
Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:52AM EST (link)NT
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
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http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
And, just to make it clear.
Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:56AM EST (link)McCain was the one telling the truth. Your guy really was prepared to lose the war rather than the election. Your problem, not ours: so please don’t drag us into it. We’re uninterested.
Enjoy the site.
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My (combined) wish list.
Hypocrites
liberalrepublican (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:56AM EST (link)Obama has run this campaign non-stop about not doing that kind of politics. He has told us over and over it was wrong, devisive and lectured us non-stop.
Tonight showed he is just another politician and has, by his one words, been shown to be a liar and a hypocrite.
It’s why sex scandals hit Republican harder – they are the ones running on values.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
5 and....lol
speciallist (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:57AM EST (link)n/p
If you have no ideas, you attack
muxedo76 (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:00AM EST (link)I would love to see a YouTube put together of Obama talking about how if you have no experience and no ideas to offer, you attack your opponent, and then follow that immediately with the beginning of his speech where he does nothing but attack McCain.
Reagan was different on two counts:
cdm (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:04AM EST (link)1) He was a center right politician talking to a center right electorate.
2) There were three policy issue that he had sharpened from ’76 to ’80, and he just owned them. It didn’t matter if you liked the man, or hated him, you knew what they were:
Lower Taxes
Less Government
Stick it to the commies.
Obama doesn;t have any policy issues that are contemporary that he owns – and no, a laundry list of 29 items spat out in fifteen minutes does not count.
95% of "working class Americans"
cdm (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:07AM EST (link)nm
I do not think we are hurt by his comments
cdm (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:12AM EST (link)at all.
This is a contact sport, and we are ready to make contrasts, and we welcome the policy differences.
I wonder
MikeknaJ Friday, August 29th at 1:12AM EST (link)I wonder what the carbon footprint for tonight’s event was?
In all seriousness, it was truly a great speech. The optics, the choreography, the soaring rhetoric that comes so naturally to him. You can see why his supporters would be swooning, and it was an historic moment on the anniversary of King’s speech. That being said, however, for anyone who is not already in the tank for Obama once you dig even an inch deep you start to see that reality doesn’t match the rhetoric, he can’t pay for what he promises, he distorted McCain’s record, he’s still a classic liberal, and he still has no experience.
It takes more than a great speech to be President.
“The shadow proves the sunshine” – Switchfoot
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translation
Dienekes Friday, August 29th at 1:26AM EST (link)for it not being a speech Gore or Kerry would have given is this: Obama is a bigger liar. but still not a particularly good one.
Worst acceptance speech ever?
elgin Friday, August 29th at 1:31AM EST (link)I didn’t watch the speech, but I read the text that was given to media before the speech was delivered and it was entirely underwhelming.
I can’t believe that people think this was a great speech. Have they not read Kennedy’s or Reagan’s or Stevenson’s acceptance speeches?
From these and other nominees, you could take away at least a few lines that are very memorable, in some speeches, entire paragraphs, but I didn’t see anything in this speech that would merit its inclusion in a collection of great speeches. It’s value it seems only comes from its historic significance as the acceptance speech of the first black nominee.
It’s hard to tell if it was deliberately bad or if this was a case of hubris and unwillingness to turn it over to professional speechwriters.
paragraph three
nobob Friday, August 29th at 1:38AM EST (link)Why has no one helped me to understand the 3rd paragraph of this posting?
Should I be concerned, or not concerned about possible dual loyalties among Jewish White House staffers?
Why is the paragraph in parenthesis?
Algore will not be pleased..We need Absentee to take pics of all the trash...sans flags
speciallist (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:44AM EST (link)n/p
you beclown yourself
David Hinz (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:44AM EST (link)either as a really bad Mobie, or as a terrible Concern Troll.
Either way, I suspect that the directors will clear up any unfortunate proclivities you might have…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
I'm reminded of the praise I heard walking away from "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"
David Hinz (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 1:49AM EST (link)everyone was so effusive with their praise of the movie — the style, the theme, the…
I thought the movie stunk on ice. It was juvenile with a second rate plot and a overblown special effects.
Why again were you praising the Obama speech? Oh yes, I remember, the style, the theme and the special effects…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Two generous gimlets made it a good speech
gensec (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 2:15AM EST (link)Not a great speech, but still a good one.
If I watched Obama without chemical assistance, my mind would be constantly throwing distracting flags for his logical or factual bs.
To try to understand how his speech is seen by swing voters, the ones Obama has to reach, you need a couple of drinks. The vast majority of voters with IQ above room temperature have already heard everything they need to decide, and already know with 99+% certainty how they will vote in November, whether it’s for McCain or Obama.
The remaining 20% or so contain a tiny percentage who are seriously weighing conflicting priorities, where each candidate is better on some important issues. But the vast majority of undecideds are mentally challenged voters, who cast their votes on the basis of emotional gut feelings. For those voters, the ones that Obama wants but doesn’t already have in his pocket, it was a pretty good speech.
Both the beginning and even more so the end were very good on emotional imagery, empathy, and yes even patriotic sentiment of Americans uniting for our common good. Where Obama blew it was with the pitiful attempt at policy in the middle. Not like the policy “analysis” was intellectually demanding, but for the morons who dominate the undecided, it was their cue to grab the remote and switch to the “Law & Order SVU” rerun or whatever. Thus they missed the climax of the speech, which was really inspiring to someone who had a couple of generously served vodka gimlets or the IQ of a typical undecided voter.
And the answer is?...
bcoley Friday, August 29th at 1:29PM EST (link)Thanks for the reply, even though it’s not relevant to the question I asked.
It’s good to know that you red-state politicos can avoid questions you can’t answer as well as we blue-staters.
Liberal and ignorant too.
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 9:16PM EST (link)Ronald Reagan had been Governor of CA for eight years and had made a credible run for the Presidency in 1976. In addition, he had a twenty plus year record of commentary on national and international issues from a conservative perspective that was very long on content.
The Dems simply grabbed onto the fact that he was a fantastic speaker and tried to credit his well thought-out policy prescriptions to his delivery because they couldn’t bring themselves to admit he was a very deep thinker, very well attuned to both history and policy and knew more about international issues than they did or ever would.
Obama doesn’t have one researched and written policy idea to his credit. He’s got zero (comparatively) experience in government. He’s never run anything but his mouth and he’s never had – that anyone has documented – an original thought.