Just when one believes things cannot get worse, the Obama administration decides to one up its self.
According to the Wallstreet Journal, all workers will be required to carry a biometeric national identification card.
Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.
The ID card plan is one of several steps advocates of an immigration overhaul are taking to address concerns that have defeated similar bills in the past.
Anyone else have a problem with being tagged like an animal and being asked to present your papers? I do. I hope many also do.
Lets keep our eyes and ears open on this matter for details.
Neil Stevens
Moe Lane
Steve Maley
Dan McLaughlin
Daniel Horowitz
I have been tagged and re-tagged
SG_Lominac (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 7:53AM EST (link)Inefficient government at work. Off the top of my head: Birth Certificate, Social Security Card, Driver’s license, Retired Military ID Card, Secret Clearance, Passport, Merchant Mariner Document, Merchant Mariner License, Transportation Worker’s Identification Card, Fingerprints with at least 5 different government entities including Military, Firearms, State Department, Coast Guard and Department of Homeland Security. What’s one more ID card to prove I can work here?
From the movie “Hard Times”
Jill Ireland: “What does it feel like to knock somebody down?”
Charles Bronson: “It makes me feel a hell of a lot better than it does him.”
Lindsay Graham (R-SC) agrees with the ID cards, while the ACLU disagrees
antonio (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 9:10AM EST (link)From the article:
“”It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people’s privacy,” said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.”
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“Mr. Graham says he respects those concerns but disagrees. “We’ve all got Social Security cards,” he said. “They’re just easily tampered with. Make them tamper-proof. That’s all I’m saying.”
I have mixed feelings
bk (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 9:34AM EST (link)If the same sort of ID card was required to vote or to collect any sort of welfare, would that be okay?
Not really
Paul Seale (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 12:56PM EST (link)The whole biometerics/tagging people like animals (especially citizens) scares the fire out of me.
Whats to prevent a government from requiring these IDs to work, get a loan or do anything.. and then revoke them at a whims notice.
And no, our SSNs are not quite the same caliber of intrusion as this.
If you live in Alaska, you pretty much have to have a Passport
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 1:24PM EST (link)to drive to or from the State because you have to cross the US – Canada border twice and you have to have a Passport to cross. Likewise, you have to have one to travel abroad. If you have a newer Passport it has an RFID chip in it and they had all sorts of problems early on with bad guys “reading” the chips and getting private information from it. They say that it now can only be read for an access number, but believing that means you have to trust the government more than I do.
My Merchant Mariner’s Credential and my Transportation Worker Identification Credential both have RFID chip in them, so when I carry them, I keep them in one of the shielded Passport wallets so they RFID can’t be read. When my Passport expires and I have to get one of the new ones with RFID, I’ll get a shielded cover for it as well.
The TWIC and MMC both have digital pictures that I’m sure they fed into some biometric database plus they both reference my background check, physical, drug test, etc. Bottom line is if you work in any occupation that TSA has any authority over, you can forget any foolish notions of privace. I will say though that the TWIC is the hot ticket for sailing through airport security and customs.
In Vino Veritas
Big difference
Paul Seale (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 2:56PM EST (link)There is a huge difference in pass ports and requiring someone to scan their hand as a way to clock in at work (or use some other body part to identify themselves).
In either case, it is flat out evil and reminds me of tails from former Soviet states.
Where are your papers!
I didn't say I liked it, just that it is in place already
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 3:32PM EST (link)to some degree or another for lots of people in this Country. I CANNOT work as a charter captain without that TWIC card, an ID which gives the TSA my medical record, my arrest and conviction record, my last drug test record, including my prescription drugs that I have to declare, and a digital photo on file which I’m sure they reduced to biometric data.
Even the licensure is mostly a barrier to entry but that’s the case with lots of licensure. The TWIC is an assault on privacy and I know Captains who’ve given up a hard earned license rather than get one.
In Vino Veritas
Graham tight with the Dems on immigration,cap and trade
karenlee Tuesday, March 9th at 9:55AM EST (link)According to the L.A.Times and Fox News Lindsay Graham and Chuck Schumer are “crafting” an immigration reform bill for President Obama. This national ID card is tied in with this immigration bill.
Lindsey Graham is a BIG problem. He needs to go and fast.
Graham supports Cap and Trade, Immigration Reform and a National ID card. After Brown’s election and the health care bill was toast, Graham gave a directive to President Obama on the Neal Cavuto Show… Graham looked straight into the camera and said Obama should call Mitch McConnell and work with him to get a health care plan through. He is a traitor, a fox, in the hen house.
how is this any different....
dave_in_atl (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 11:07AM EST (link)how is this any different from the Real ID which is already on the law books?
if its not any different...
Paul Seale (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 12:57PM EST (link)Then why write this new law.
Fact is, it is different and very damning to privacy and individual rights.
you say its a fact...
dave_in_atl (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 1:33PM EST (link)You say its a fact, yet provide any evidence…. lets just say I’m skeptical.
Sounds like at best this new law would require people to provide identification, in the form of the real id that is already going to be required.
I thought we were all in favour of requiring ID’s to get healthcare and jobs around here? How else are you gonna crack down on illigial immigrants?
Find another way of cracking down
Paul Seale (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 2:40PM EST (link)Like maybe enforcing current laws on the books or using everify status before forcing your “666″ stamp on my hand, thank you very much.
As for differences in laws – lets start with step one, the requirement biometric sets.
According to the article we are talking about scanning the veins in the back of your hand, not to mention forced registration of everyone.
This is a vastly different policy than ensuring you are who you say you are.
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Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 3:05PM EST (link)Absolutely true. Enforce the laws.
Biometric tagging will not fly. There are enough evangelicals in this country who will call them out for the Mark of the Beast that (literally) all Hell would break loose.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
How did they "crack" down before?
RoguePolitics (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 3:16PM EST (link)Why is the answer to 911 or illegal immigration, both government screwups, to restrict and get a tighter grip on law-abiding citizens?
Was it government that stopped Richard Reid or the EunuchBomber? Or even for that matter the Unabomber?
End birthright citizenship unless one parent is a citizen. End federal welfare/healthcare entitlements and most illegal immigrants self deport.
For the ones who don’t self deport allow local municipalities to detain illegals and be reimbursed by the federal government at a profitable rate say $250 per day. That will be the end of sanctuary cities and speed traps. The locals will be busy rooting out illegals.
Require ICE to reimburse until they take custody and then disallow them to release illegals inside the US. Go home or stay in jail.
Quit sticking my wallet and my liberty with the bill for government failure.
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When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry
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Because the Republican Party is NOT going to fix the Republican Party.
http://americanamendment.com/
Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.
Rogue's right...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Wednesday, March 10th at 12:25AM EST (link)If laws are enforced, there’s no need for more government intrusion into individual’s lives.
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Locke fled to Holland
RoguePolitics (Diary) Wednesday, March 10th at 11:51AM EST (link)“The English government tried to have Locke extradited for trial and presumably execution. He moved into one Egbertus Veen’s Amsterdam house and assumed the name “Dr. van der Linden.” He signed letters as “Lamy” or “Dr. Lynne.” Anticipating that the government might intercept mail, Locke protected friends by referring to them with numbers or false names. He told people he was in Holland because he enjoyed the local beer.”
One of the greatest minds for liberty hiding under a presumed name.
To avoid execution.
Give them power and it will be used to ensure there are no future Lockes.
History always repeats itself.
“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell
“Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what’s going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?” Will Rogers
When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry
http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
Because the Republican Party is NOT going to fix the Republican Party.
http://americanamendment.com/
Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.
Sounds good to me -nt-
hickorystick (Diary) Tuesday, March 9th at 2:09PM EST (link)Liberty isn't long for this country if Obama gets his way
tcgeol (Diary) Wednesday, March 10th at 12:30AM EST (link)What a truly horrible idea!
Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger
Even the Left admits we’re Right
Another insight
southeasttexas (Diary) Wednesday, March 10th at 12:38PM EST (link)Please refer to my postings entitled, “National Worker ID System”.
http://nationalchat.wordpress.com