Saving the American Republic


So you went to a tea party, and nothing happened: you vented, somewhere between 500,000 and a million other Americans vented; CNN and others made gay jokes to underline your impotence as a protester – and, overall, just about nobody cared. Why?

Because most people believe that it’s too late to act: that the Pelosi-Reid attacks on the economy: on Detroit, on the financial system, on your job, can’t be stopped; that Obama’s abandonment of Israel, Taiwan, and Pakistan are done deals; that everything from show trials for “bushies” to gutting defense and refocusing homeland security from Islamic terror to right wing extremists are just parts of the cross every American has to bear.

Many believe, in fact, that a majority of Americans voted for this – that a government whose actions are so destructive of American value that it’s indistinguishable from what we’d get if the Reverend Wright were in the Whitehouse with Bill Ayers and Ms. Dohrn ruling Congress, is what the electorate wanted – and that any action you take to stop them is therefore anti-democratic.

All of that’s wrong – the current destruction of the American republic be stopped, it should be stopped, and you can help.

The reality on the electoral mandate claim is that only about 2% of those who voted for Mr. Obama were able to correctly answer 12 simple questions about the campaign – most of those who voted for him believed he would cut taxes, balance the budget, fix the economy, gain respect abroad, and reduce partisan conflict in Congress – instead, he’s letting Pelosi and Reid raise taxes while doubling the cumulative federal deficit; destroying the energy, automotive, and health care industries; demonstrating vicious partisanship in appointments; and, demeaning himself and the country abroad.

An electorate that’s been lied to should hold the liars responsible, not itself.

To do that, we need to get Congress to declare that Mr. Obama was ineligible as a candidate – because no vote for an ineligible candidate can be counted in either a general election or in the electoral college and this would wipe out every action he’s taken, every bit of legislation he’s signed, every appointment he’s made.

In effect, Congress can force a do over on the last six months – with McCain/Palin in the Whitehouse to reestablish the system of checks and balances that has preserved the American Republic until now.

What that means is that the $2.4 trillion in debt Pelosi and Obama have put together goes away; the economy booms; you keep your job; Detroit survives; ACORN and some key democrats face prosecution on electoral fraud; and we’d even have a good chance of eventually seeing people like Chris Dodds, and Barney Franks jailed for their roles in the financial meltdown.

This strategy is obviously controversial and you’ll hear a lot of people tell you lots of nonsense about it; but the argument is simple:

  • The Constitution requires that the President be a “natural born citizen:” not just an American citizen by birth, but one born on American soil to an American father.

    Since Mr. Obama claims to have had a British citizen from Kenya for a father, he does not qualify as natural born. Period.

    Mr. Obama’s supporters will lie to you about this – usually claiming that the 14th amendment allows him in. It does not – and a quick google search will find you the definitions and the arguments needed to settle this.

  • Mr. Obama’s America hating mother cannot have married, as he claims and the historical record supports, an Indonesian citizen and then sent the young Obama to a state approved Indonesian school without first renouncing both her own American citizenship and that of any dependent children, including Mr. Obama.Since it is certain that he lost his American citizenship while a dependent child and there’s nothing to suggest he ever bothered to reclaim it after his return to Hawaii, he cannot now be a citizen at all -no matter where he was born, and no matter who his father was.

So how can you help make the do-over happen? simple: you know who your congress critters are, so get in their faces on this issue – hit them with three questions:

  1. Do they remember that their oaths of office included swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States – and are enforcible by criminal sanction and removal from office?
  2. Can they prove that Mr. Obama is constitutionally eligible?
  3. And, if not, why aren’t they acting, in Congress, to bring an immediate end to an unconstitutional Presidency?

At first you’ll be dismissed by answering machines and bottom level flunkies, but if you stick to it – go to their campaign offices and their public meetings; get after the media people they depend on for positive publicity; write, fax, email, and telephone them – the answers you get will gradually improve from attacks on you as a birther, a nutcase, an ignorant redneck to the usual list of excuses: from it’s too late (not true) and he was elected (irrelevant); to he’s a citizen because born in Hawaii (irrelevant).

Remember those little homilies you learned in grade school? – stuff like “the price of liberty is eternal vigilance”? and those uplifting little quotes – stuff like Franklin’s “We have given you a Republic, now see if you can keep it”? Well, now’s the time to add a little action to those. It’s your country: defend it.

Keep asking them the same questions: how can someone with a British father be natural born? How could his mother have married a Muslim in Indonesia and sent him to school there without renouncing his citizenship? and “as my representative, you swore to defend the constitution against all enemies, so why aren’t you acting against the usurper pretending to be President?”

Understand up front that neither your senator nor your congressman is going to want to hear anything about eligibility because the discussion catches them between rocks and hard places: between having sworn to defend the constitution against people like Mr. Obama and being afraid to act; afraid to rock the boat; afraid of media reaction; afraid of violence by a thugish few; afraid of being seen wrong.

So be polite, but be persistent: show them there’s more to fear from inaction than action – and if you can’t get their attention any other way, start a personal or class action asking that their oath be enforced – and continually point out that they have both the silver bullet, and the duty, to put an end to the current destruction of the American Republic.

Remember: it’s your country: defend it, or lose it.


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I keep telling myself to ignore you when you show up, Paul... but Darnit, I just can't.

randy streu (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 9:10AM EST (link)

Let me get straight what you’re trying to say:
about a million people — people, by the way who, unlike liberals, have to actually work — took time off to protest, and you translate it as “nobody cares.” Regardless of the fact that the movement itself is actually growing. Okay. Whatever.

But then, you blatantly ignore all arguments contrary to your “Obama’s not a citizen” meme and then claim that this approach is the ONLY way to save us.

You are out of touch, Paul.

If you honestly believe that the only way we can stop this country’s slide is to convince a LIBERAL CONGRESS that their own guy is ineligible for the Presidency, you must either believe it really is a hopeless case, or else you are really disconnected from reality.

Finally, I will make these points again:
1. Obama was born on US soil to a US mother.
2. His mother didn’t renounce her own citizenship until after that birth.
3. You CANNOT renounce the citizenship of another person, even a minor.
4. Who the hell ever said you needed to renounce your citizenship to live or get educated in another country?
5. Tilting at windmills is stupid. Do something usefull.

 

Maybe you could learn to read

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 3:51PM EST (link)

1) the “natural born” requirement pertains to the father, not the mother.

2) Indonesian law required that she renounce both her own, and her son’s citizenship. American law allowed him to reclaim it after his return to the U.S. but there’s no evidence to suggest he did.

3) All congress critters, regardless of party, swear broadly the same oath – and liberals who refuse to act accordingly can be removed from office through the courts – and all voters have standing!

Learn to read what, exactly?

randy streu (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 10:12PM EST (link)

You have this tendency of just saying stuff, without actually citing your sources.

Where do you find that “natural born” pertains to the father?

Where is this Indonesian law of which you speak?

Either you’re gullible as hell, or you expect the rest of us are. If you’re so smart, great — cite your damned sources.

And, "reply to this" is your friend. nt

randy streu (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 10:12PM EST (link)

The text of the thing you're attacking ?

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:27PM EST (link)

Notice that some text has a different color? Those are URLs – if, for example, you actually followed up on the one linking to the natural born search you might understand that issue a bit better.

Now in terms in citing sources… bet you can’t prove water wet from objective sources – what you’re doing, in other words, is just another form of the ad hominem argument in which you assert that everything you know is right, and everything anyone else says has to be proven from sources acceptable to you – sources you refuse to read on your own.

So here’s a better idea: learn to read – maybe a little more widely – before embarking on personal attacks.

No, Paul, that's not how this works.

randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:23AM EST (link)

You don’t just post a google link and call it proof. This is your post, you defend it. I’m not going to go out and defend it for you.

Randy...just ignore this guy...he is not a serious person...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:51AM EST (link)

His link to “proof” has 21,200 results…and as far as 3 pages in not one of those has .gov on the end.

Also he apparently doesn’t know what and ad hominem* attack is. But no worries I attacked a link for him to puruse…lol

* Yes I know it is a link to a google search…goose, gander and what not…only thing is my search provides a reputable source within the first page.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


wow...it's one of those days where I need more caffeine...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:52AM EST (link)

and should be an and attacked should be attached….lol

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

Hey, Aliens are Real! I found proof!

randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:02AM EST (link)

Look for yourself. It’s on H.R. 848 and google, which is clearly a reputable source for reliable information!

speaking of needing caffiene.

randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:04AM EST (link)

just google. the other was an artifact of copy and paste.

Man, I hate when my suckitude ruins a perfectly good joke.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

And, about those million tea partiers

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 3:54PM EST (link)

Yes it was great moment in conservative protest – but there’s nobody listening except us conservatives.

See any behavioral change in Washington?

No? me neither -that’s why I said it was an excerise in impotency – a lot like onanism, it feels great for a moment, but you don’t achieve anything.

Who exactly is listening about Obama's BC....speaking of exercises in impotency...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 3:59PM EST (link)

I would wager that more people got turned on to conservatism on April 15th than have due to Obama’s BC.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


It doesn't matter, Aaron.

randy streu (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 10:14PM EST (link)

Time and again, Paul has shown that he doesn’t care about actual evidence. This is why he refuses to cite his sources for his KnownFacts ™ time after time, and then gets all pissed off when you call him out on it.

I can’t decide whether he’s just a moby, or if he is truly and sincerely that ignorant.

 

re: that birth certificate

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:34PM EST (link)

The problem with the B.C. issue is that there’s no credible evidence either way – we do not, in other words, know either whether he has a genuine Hawaiian birth certificate or what it says.

Absent evidence, we can only speculate – and my speculation is that the Obama campaign team pushed the birther business in order to be able to discredit all eligibility challenges, particularly those based on his father’s citizenship and his own failure to reclaim his citizenship after his mother’s actions, by producing it at the appropriate moment.

Paul Murphy....if you are going to reply to me answer the question...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:41PM EST (link)

I already know your argument…and frankly I don’t care to get into that conversation.

I asked what I asked because you inferred that people are more inclined to get on board with the BC issue than the Tea Parties…the 500,000+ protesters on April 15th pretty much prove you wrong unless you can show me some numbers for support of what you are pushing.

Don’t bother replying unless you are going to address the points I make.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


ummm ?

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:50PM EST (link)

1) the article says nothing about the BC issue and so I don’t understand when you say “you inferred that people are more inclined to get on board with the BC issue than the Tea Parties”. I neither said nor infered this.

2) it seems to me your question is which is more real: the BC issue or the tea parties. I tried to answer that: the BC issue has no evidence for or against – and so could be (not necessarily is) a red herring being used to distract attention from real eligibility issues.

And, if so, it’s impact will be very negative – much worse than the zero impact the tea parties have had on actual policy making in Washing ton.

3) if that’s still unclear, can you restate the question for me?

Paul Murphy....

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:59PM EST (link)

you said

Yes it was great moment in conservative protest – but there’s nobody listening except us conservatives.

See any behavioral change in Washington?

No? me neither -that’s why I said it was an excerise in impotency – a lot like onanism, it feels great for a moment, but you don’t achieve anything.

So again I will ask…who is listening about the BC…and whose impotent…surely not the half a million protesters from April 15th.

And again don’t reply if you aren’t going to answer the question.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


and to kowalski...Paul Murphy...the Tea Parties were effective...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 4:15PM EST (link)

see here

All politics is local…and this is a display of the Tea Parties potency on the local level.

The BC issue remains impotent.

Carry on.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Once again,

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 4:47PM EST (link)

1) I’m not raising the birther issue. You are.

2) if I’m forced the guess who pays attention the BC issue – my guess is the people in the Obama campaign who are in on it.

BUT IT’s ONLY A GUESS –

3) As for the tea parties.. here’s a list of all federal politicians and appointees who’ve changed, or are likely to change, their behavior, because of the tea parties:

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Listen, I’m not opposed to tea parties – I hope the thing grows and grows and grows.

What I am saying, however, is that it feels good to go to tea parties, but the policies being protested don’t change -i.e. it’s all useless without a way to force action.

Paul Murphy...half your diary is about Obama not being a natural born citizen...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 5:02PM EST (link)

YOU are bringing it up.

YOU did say the Tea Parties were impotent.

I showed you proof of their traction.

Don’t be dumb.

But don’t worry…I won’t bother you anymore during your mental masturbation sessions…enjoy…you are now on my permanent ignore list.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Aah... the light goes on

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:17PM EST (link)

You think the birth certificate issue is related to the natural born issue!

It’s not – at least, not directly.

The “natural born” issue pertains the loyalties of the father (see the google search embedded in the article – just click on it) and not to where the guy was born.

The Constitution is clear on this: you can’t have a foreign father and be “natural born” – and because Obama claims a Kenyan with British citizenship as a father, he isn’t be eligible for the presidency.

The birth certificate issue is that some people claim he wasn’t born in Hawaii – but the only evidence they have is that he hasn’t proven that he was, and the certificate of live birth he has provided is:

1 – an obvious forgery (probably true)
2 – issued by Hawaii for both in state and out of state/country births (also true)

However:

1 – the “natural born” issue has nothing to do with where he was born, it has to do with who his father was.

2 – the Indonesian issue has nothing to do with either the birth certificate or his father. In this case it’s his own failure to act that’s responsible for his ineligibility.

eitherway Paul you are tilting at windmills...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:46PM EST (link)

Your time would be better spent attending Tea Parties…now back to ignoring you.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Now we have to have a test

trki (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 4:12PM EST (link)

to vote?Uneducated voting has been going on for years.That does not mean that they don’t know what going on.

Just because the numbers say they are uneducated does not mean the numbers know everything.I am a Dumb Stupid truck driver myself.That doesn’t mean I can’t vote because I can’t answer you list of questions.

Sorry, not what I meant

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 3:43PM EST (link)

I’m not seriously suggesting a voting test (although that might actually make sense) – what I’m arguing here is that people voted for him on mis-information.

For example, if only 11.2% of Obama voters knew of his promise to bankrupt the coal industry, we can assume that the other 88.8% thought he wouldn’t set out to force blackouts, brownouts, and electrical power rationing on America.

But that is what he’s doing – so now the question is who should be held responsible? My answer is simply that most of his voters didn’t vote for the guy they got – they voted for the lies they believed and so should hold the liar, not themselves, at fault.

The media

trki (Diary) Sunday, April 26th at 3:26PM EST (link)

did not want to tell you the truth.
How can people be informed?They can’t.
As I have said before Red or Blue,they will tell you one thing during campaign then do as they please.
No morals.

 
 
 

Just so you don't jump the gun

trki (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 4:44PM EST (link)

John.To me Red and Blue are one in the same.McCain was not better than Obama.For the last 20 years of voting none of them have done what they said.
Now you can say I’m stupid.

red and blue are not even close to the same trki

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 4:50PM EST (link)

I am not a lying crap weasel who would condemn babies to death after they have survived an abortion….neither would I go on national television and sell out our soldiers in Iraq by saying they have lost a war.

You need to quit with this equivalence bs now.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


There goes somebody jumping the gun.

trki (Diary) Tuesday, April 21st at 4:29AM EST (link)

I did vote for McCain but he wasn’t a much better choice.
All the global warming bills he was on before the campaign started,amazingly his name wasn’t on them after it started.Lesser of two evils.

I will say again Red or Blue they are all the same.When was the last time you voted and it did not cost you money?

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McCain

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 4:53PM EST (link)

Personally I saw McCain’s candidacy as that of a bitter old man still running against George Bush circa 1999 – but criticism of him or his campaign is now entirely beside the point.

The thing that’s most glaring about Obama is that Pelosi, not Obama, is driving policy. He’s still campaigning; she and some back room “democrats” are control – put McCain in the Whitehouse via an eligibility challenge and the checks and balances designed into the Constitution go back into effect.

Remember Pelosi took over in 2006, but Bush kept her in check. Obama isn’t doing that.

 

I didn't jump the gun at all trki...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:51PM EST (link)

There are stark contrasts between the two parties…and I never said you didn’t vote for McCain….there is more to the parties than their economics. The fact that you don’t see this is sad.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Aaron

trki (Diary) Sunday, April 26th at 3:35PM EST (link)

yes there are contrasts,but the contrasts aren’t in our favor.Which they should be. They are in the intrest of the elected.
When was the last time any of the people benifited from any election?
Unless they had a promenant lobbyist,they did not benifit.Somehow I just don’t see that as right.

 
 
 
 
 

Suckered.

redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, April 20th at 10:27PM EST (link)

At first I thought it was a satire.

Then I felt sure the second half is a parody.

Well I was wrong, it’s pure unadulterated BS. (Sorry, bs, I’m not calling you).


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

Ten bucks says you can't back that up

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 4:54PM EST (link)

Find one factual statement that’s not true, and I’ll send you a check – but if you can’t do it, you can send me one.

 
 

Paul, Rome wasn't built in a day

civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 5:07PM EST (link)

Your argument is that since no vote has been affected in the 7 days since the national tea party, that the movement is a bust and we should just throw in the towel.

By that token, Wilberforce would have thrown in the towel the first time his anti-slave trade bill was defeated in Parliament. Or Joshua would have abandoned the seige of Jericho after the first day.

Look, reorganizing conservatism is going to take time. And local action is the best hope we have a building a structure that can take on the interlocking network that the Democrats have build for 70 years.

You keep chipping away and gather force, and eventually you start making headway. You have to strike many blows to weaken the infrastructure before you start seeing visible effects.

It’s called perseverance and discipline.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

Agreed

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 8:45AM EST (link)

I’m not saying “stop the tea parties”, I am saying that they’re not going to effect short term change -and that’s what we need right now.

Courts and "short term change" are an oxymoron

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:14AM EST (link)

If thousands have been working on this birth certificate matter and no one can even get standing to get a court order at the lowest level after 8 or 9 months, we already know that this isn’t going to hve any short-term effect.

And even if by some miracle, somehow you can actually get something started, every step in the trial is subject to multiple delays – not to mention appeals etc. – and the judges involved have no legal requirement to issue decisions within any timeframe, which means they could and would stall things. I know people who have gone up against the government and the kind of excruciating delays they encountered. And here you have the highest levels of government who can and will obstruct.

Specifically, I guarantee that any effect involving this birth certificate matter is going to take at least 7 years and 9 months to happen. At which point it will be irrelevant, of course – or more likely buried as moot.

Meanwhile, I think the tea party movement can have some short-term effect if it gives a wavering Congressperson courage to resist because he or she can see that there is on opposition to the Democratic program out there. Even a little is better than nothing. And at least the tea party has a chance to multiply.

And given the momentum of a Democratic supermajority, an actively complicit MSM, and a gaggle of sunshine conservatives who prefer to pander to their new masters rather than suffer for the cause – anything that slows down the Golem or shifts its course is useful.

By analogy, the tea parties are like little ropes: with enough ropes, the Lilliputians were able to tie down Gulliver.

We’ve got no anti-tank weaponry. You got to fight with the weapons you have, not the ones your might wish.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

Plus Civil Truth his assertion is demonstrably false...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:46AM EST (link)

The Tea Parties have had an affect…see the number 1 recommended diary.

Paul is obfuscating and doesn’t want to admit to it.

He will come back to you nd claim that this isn’t about a BC. He will also discount what is in Moe’s diary because it wasn’t Washington.

He is also disingenuous with saying that the Tea Parties had no affect on Washington too…being that the Congress wasn’t in session until this Monday I don’t know what they could have done.

Bottom line Paul should not be taken seriously.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

yes courts take a long time

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 1:53PM EST (link)

And no I don’t think the “birthers” are going to win anything.

But every voter has standing with respect to the oath issue – and every senator and congressman has standing on eligibility.

 
 
 
 

Can I insert something here?

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:34AM EST (link)

I’ve read most of the comments above until it started getting so repetitive.

First, stop worrying about the birth certificate. If you want to keep being suspicious of it, that’s your right but even if we found out tomorrow that he isn’t a natural born citizen it would change nothing. Obama’s agenda is not just Obama’s agenda. It’s also the agenda of the Democratic majority Congress and the members of his cabinet. What you’re doing is putting all your eggs in one basket hinged on something that will never get through the Democrats. They will have a vested interest in not allowing that B.C. to be become public. If you can’t see that, then you’re still living in the fantasy that the judicial system still works in this country when, at best, it’s a crap shoot.

Second, there is no short term fix for long term decline which is what we’re dealing with. The tea parties are a bigger success than you’ll ever recognize because you’ve gambled everything on a birth certificate that may or may not be crucial. The tea party movement is growing and is having more effect that you realize because you’re not seeing the subtleties of what’s going on behind the public facades. It’s Republicans’ faults as much as it is the Democrats’.

The Democrats know they are time limited before the people wake up out of their stupor of idolization of an empty suit and are doing their best to ram through every piece of indignity they can muster in a very short amount of time. They’re overplaying their hands by a wide wide margin but they’re committed now and can’t stop the monster they created.

If you want to keep pursuing the birth certificate conspiracy, nobody will stop you but don’t overlook other things in the process, okay? Take some of those eggs you put into the birth certificate basket and put them somewhere else because your strategy is a losing one at the present time.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Don't confuse birtherism with the natural born issue

Paul_Murphy (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 1:56PM EST (link)

He could have (and my guess is does have) a perfectly valid birth certificate – but this has nothing to do with the “natural born citizen” issue.

The natural born citizenship issue has to do with his father’s citizenship, not his place of birth.

And you're completely missing the point.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 2:07PM EST (link)

Keep your blinders on, if you want, but don’t expect the rest of us to follow.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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