As I mentioned yesterday, Mr. Obama could surprise the entire political establishment by admitting that he doesn’t meet the constitutional requirement that the president be a natural born citizen; resign accordingly, preside over a constitutional conference repealing this clause along with the 2nd and 22nd amendments, and then return with his agenda implemented by Biden and Clinton, no personal responsibility for the consequences, and a halo of personal integrity to protect whatever further actions he and his backers want taken.
It would be brilliant, but obviously so only if he’s vulnerable on eligibility grounds; and that’s just tin hat stuff, right?
Wrong, first there is simply no issue with respect to his inability to meet the “natural born citizen” requirement if you accept that his father was a British citizen from Kenya.
The use of “natural” in this context is an assertion of birth rights over legal rights; of God’s law over Man’s – and if Mr. Obama is, as he claims, the Hawaiian born son of an underage mother and a father holding British citizenship, then his American citizenship is clearly an artifact of law, not natural right – and he’s therefore ineligible for the office of the Presidency.
This is simple, black letter, stuff; apologists to the contrary there’s no issue in law here: no confusion, no scope for argument – but, very much like Mrs. Clinton’s ineligibility to serve as Secretary of State, it’s a technical issue perceived as unfair to a leading Democrat and therefore both off the table in terms of mass media coverage and terrifying to a liberal judiciary hurting from eight years of unrelenting media condemnation over Bush V. Gore.
Notice, however, that he could beat this charge simply by producing a birth certificate showing an American father – not a Kenyan diplomat in training but a far left American idealogue named Davis.
In contrast he has no obvious defense against the charge that he failed to reclaim American citizenship after returning to Hawaii, is therefore technically an illegal alien – and certainly not remotely eligible for the Office of the Presidency.
The reasoning here is simple:
- we know, from multiple sources including Obama himself, that his mother married a Muslim Indonesian citizen in 1966 and subsequently sent the young Obama to an Indonesian public school.
- we know, from multiple sources, that neither Indonesian nor religious law either at the time or after the citizenship reforms of the late 1960s would allow either the marriage or the school attendance unless his mother had first renounced her American citizenship and that of any dependent children, including Obama; and,
- we know that American law would have allowed the young Obama to reclaim his American citizenship after his return to Hawaii.
Since he studied law, especially constitutional law, and because we have no evidence that he ever reclaimed his American citizenship, we are entitled to conclude that he consciously decided not to – that he choose, instead, to honor his mother’s deep contempt for American values by perpetuating a significant electoral fraud on the country.
You don’t perp walk an elected president out of the Whitehouse because he failed to consider that his Kenyan father denied him natural born citizen status, but you do for expressing his contempt for the American constitution, and the American people, by consciously refusing to reclaim his citizenship.
And that, of course, is where the race to depose comes from: getting him quietly off stage promotes Mrs. Clinton, protects the agenda, and keeps people like Franks and Dodds out of jail – but getting him declared ineligible in court not only hands the Whitehouse to McCain/Palin while rolling back every action he’s taken, but also creates natural opportunities and constituencies for further investigation into the culture of corruption at the top of the Democratic party.
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I'm giong to stop banging my head against the wall long enough to respond... though, God only knows why -- the two seem to be the same thing.
randy streu (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 11:17AM EST (link)First, “The use of “natural” in this context is an assertion of birth rights over legal rights; of God’s law over Man’s ”
God has an opinion on what makes somebody a natural-born citizen? What Bible is that from? On what do you base your opinion of the Founders’ intentions with the natural-born clause? I say, and I think the rest of our History and the Constitution support me, that the clause is designed, largely, to keep somebody from emigrating to our country and attempting to gain leadership status for malicious purpose. The Founders had to draw a line, and they drew it at the idea that you must be a natural-born citizen.
I’ve not seen anything to suggest that the definition of “natural-born” requires that BOTH parents be naturalized citizens. this is a guess on your part, and not a particularly well-defended one.
Second, the issue is a loser. This is a lesson you should have learned back in November.
Third, Obama will not willingly stepped down. Once again, history ought to be your guide. Dem politicians DO NOT willingly cede power.
Fourth: find a different cause, man. Really. There’s plenty to go after Obama on… why you are so damned obsessed with pretending he “isn’t a citizen” is beyond me, but it belies your intelligence.
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Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 2:19PM EST (link)Was and is a pretty clearly defined term – please don’t get confused by the propaganda machine to the contrary.
And, as to whether God has an opinion – I’d imagine so, but unless He publically admits to it, I don’t see how it matters.
What does matter is that the founders understand natural justice to emante from nature (God’s domain) and now law (man’s domain.)
Where?
randy streu (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 8:03PM EST (link)“natural born Was and is a pretty clearly defined term”
You fail, consistently, to provide documentation. Your points are NOTHING but your own opinion, if you don’t support them. And you still fail to support them with anything other than your own words.
So I’ll try a different tack: Your own words DO NOT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY. Support them with words that actually do.
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Paul, you need to stop beating this dead horse now
civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 11:50AM EST (link)This issue has been discussed many times here at RedState since before the elctioni and always shot down. And it’s not exactly like we’re Obama’s supporters here. Plus, the courts have thrown out all the cases that attempted to litigate this matter.
Sorry, elections have consequences – collective insanity by a majority of the voters has consequences – and we’re going to have to someone take back out country if possible before it passes over the event horizon.
But we’re not going to get any “get out of jail free” cards in this games – Obama’s going with us for another 3 years and 10 months – but the problem is Democratic hegemony, not just one individual. We need to win some more races and soon.
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Agreed "elections have consequences"
Paul_Murphy (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 2:22PM EST (link)However, you need to read my piece for Friday the 13th (of March)
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Oh, and explain how it’s possible that every voting station in Ohio, Penn, and DC reported well above average turnouts but produced no more votes than in 2004.
I'm with the rest of them, Paul. Please quit posting diaries
janis (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 12:05PM EST (link)about this subject. RedState is not WorldNetDaily, nor would we wish it to be. I’m afraid that civil truth hit the nail on the head quite smartly when he said that we aren’t getting any “get out of jail free” cards in this instance.
If you really want to see something affect Obama’s standing, then see if you can get someone to sponsor a bill to outlaw teleprompters. Problem solved.
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Tanggor (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 12:28PM EST (link)“see if you can get someone to sponsor a bill to outlaw teleprompters. Problem solved.”
Very nice. Without Binky, he’d be forced to resign.
I like it. Down with Teleprompters!
“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington