My personal view is that everyone should take care of themselves, save widows and orphans, but I decided to look into the matter.

After all, the Demoncrats have most seniors conned into thinking they will be taken care of as long as they vote to put the Demoncrats back in office.

A look at the AMA’s website produced some useful information.

The Medicare cuts to reduce payment to doctors kicks in December 1st, 2010 . Part of the 500 Billion dollar cut in Medicare benefits signed by “The One” on May 23. 2010, it will reduce payments to doctors by 23 percent. The number of Doctors who will not accept Medicare patients is expected to balloon after this date. Many doctors won’t see seniors now due to the low payments. There is another 6 percent cut effective January 1st, 2011.

It is hard to run a business when you take patients who cost more than you are being paid to treat them, so doctors for seniors will be hard to find.

Looks like “The One” has finally found his “shovel ready” projects, our senior citizens. (Thanks Rush)

If Aunt Sally still tells you that “Mr. Roosevelt” is going to save her, you might share this info with her.

Rather curious that the changes don’t go into effect until after the election, isn’t it?

Get the word out, time is short.

www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/solutions-managing-your-practice/coding-billing-insurance/medicare/payment-action-kit-medicare

I sent out an email on the UK story on taking pain medication from back pain patients  and this is what I received as a reply:

There will always be exception to any story that will be used as propaganda.  I am sympathetic for anyone that has to endure pain or discomfort, but these cases are singled out and used to make political points…simply wrong.  I’m pleased that this administration is taking productive steps to do something.  The standard play book of the last admin was to roadblock anything constructive.  Low cost drug from Canada and the Caribbean are still illegal.    Now that there is a momentum building, the Rush’s and Coulters of the world will do anything to block it (for political reasons I might add).

I know all too well some of the weaknesses in the health care system and don’t need to rely on propaganda.  Our family has faced a brain tumor, cancer on numerous fronts and other challenges that make affordable health care challenging.  It is about time that someone is finally stepping up to the plate and advocating for John Q. Public.  Bush had eight year to pull it off.

So much like the Whitehouse, if you don’t agree with me, you are spreading propaganda..

Trying to set the record straight without totally alienating this fellow I replied with the following:

Last months “propaganda” from the UK times was sending breast cancer patients home with pain pills because there is no room in any health facility in Britain to treat them.
These are not one time happenings, this is an ongoing day to day type happening in the countries with single payer (read government ) health care.
Obama himself said of an older lady, in a press conference, that should been given a pain pill instead of a pacemaker. i.e. go home and die.

I have listened to a British Doctor firsthand describe the British system. When the money is gone, he has to tell you there is nothing he can do. By law he cannot tell you if you flew to the US you could get dialysis or other treatment and live.

That is a government single payer system. For the pundits who say we aren’t heading to single payer , don’t take my word for it.

• Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) at a Health Care for America Now rally: “And next to me was a guy from the insurance company who argued against the public health insurance option, saying it wouldn’t let private insurance compete. That a public option will put the private insurance industry out of business and lead to single-payer. My single-payer friends, he was right. The man was right.”
• Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) told Single Payer Action: “I think that if we get a good public option it could lead to single-payer and that is the best way to reach single-payer. Saying you’ll do nothing till you get single-payer is a sure way never to get it. … I think the best way we’re going to get single-payer, the only way, is to have a public option and demonstrate the strength of its power.”
• Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein at the Democratic National Convention last year: “They have a sneaky strategy, the point of which is to put in place something that over time the natural incentives within its own market will move it to single-payer.”
• Noble Prize winning New York Times columnist Paul Krugman: “[T]he only reason not to do [single-payer] is that politically it’s hard to do in one step…You’d have to convince people completely give up the insurance they have, whereas something that lets people keep the insurance they have but then offers the option of a public plan, that may evolve into single-payer.”

>Credit and whole article: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/05/morning-bell-the-people-spreading-disinformation-about-obamacare

There is 2007 press conference where Obama himself promotes going to single payer.

Or read the house bill  on page 16 it describes how the private insurance will be forced out and you will be   forced onto Obama care.

Read page 42 if you have any doubts about rationing.

Read page 59 Why does Washington need direct debit access to our bank accounts and all banking transactions in order to provide health care?

Page 72 tells how all private plans must conform to the public plan or be taxed.

Frankly I can back up everything I have ever wrote you or anyone else about this bill or any other bill I ever wrote about.
I do my homework before I send out emails, not after.
If I make a mistake, I own up to that too.

The only propaganda I see is in the liberal rags like the NY Times and the lapdog press like Chrissy Mathews.or….

The President made several statements at his health care pep rallies this week that are directly contrary to the wording in the bill..?? That is propaganda.

Be careful, don’t even take my word for it if you like, do your own homework, everyone should, you might be surprised.

BTW, unions and the trial lawyers were Obama’s 2 biggest contributors. Bear that in mind when watching his actions.

This is not your father’s Democratic party. The mainstream may be , but the leadership is way to the left of Lenin. A lot of Democrats are realizing that and want their party back. Maybe you can help them regain control.

Not trying to be mean, but mainstream Dems in this country need to wake up and take their party back from the Saul Alinsky crowd.

I don’t want to watch family members suffer because a bunch that couldn’t run cash for clunkers want to redesign health care and bankrupt it, just as Medicare and Medicaid are currently in the red.

Go read up on Dr. Ezekiel Manuel’s writings, if you doubt old people will be told just go home and die. This is Rahm’s brother and author of a good bit of the health care bill. He promotes the idea in things he has written.
Better yet, get Tom Daschle’s book.

Of course congress will have their own health care plan separate from yours.
There’s some scary stuff in this bill, and I don’t think congressional bills can be called “propaganda”, or can they?

I suppose I will be in the flag@ inbox by lunchtime.

Oh well all my taxes are in order. there is only a certain amount of harassment the Obites can do.

Regards

Bring them to your base, confine them, can’t touch them or coerce them. If they want to tell you something, it’s OK.

After two weeks you must release them with any intel on your base they have gathered while there.

It’s common knowledge, so the bad guys have nothing to fear if they can get captured.They just wait it out, clean bed and square meals for two weeks and then off on their merry way.

The guys on the ground, at least that this one was around, see it as the beginning of throwing in the towel.

The bad guys, (can’t call them combatants now can I?)  just laugh at the Americans and walk back to their unit.

Oh, Fearless Leader is really sharp.

For Full Story and Credits

“In a bill passed by the Legislature earlier this month, the state is asserting that guns manufactured in Montana and sold in Montana to people who intend to keep their weapons in Montana are exempt from federal gun registration, background check and dealer-licensing rules because no state lines are crossed.”

and

“It’s a gun bill, but it’s another way of demonstrating the sovereignty of the state of Montana,” said Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer, who signed the bill.

Note the article quoted Democratic Governor Schweitzer, obviously not cut from the same cloth as the Obama wing of the party. My personal tendency was to think the “new Socialist Democrats” had replaced pretty much all the Blue dogs. It appears that I must re-evaluate my position.

The federal government has twisted the Commerce Clause to regulate practically anything you can name, so it will be interesting to follow this through the courts.

A candidate to notify the BATF of his intentions to manufacture rifles in Montana for Montana citizens is being sought.
Upon the expected receipt of BATF’s notice that he can’t do that, the court battle will begin. Manufacture of the rifles will not be necessary to start the court battle.

Supporters state that the Made in Montana stamp on the product makes it different from the 2005 California Federal marijuana case, since California marijuana looks pretty much like Oregon marijuana and so forth. The look alike argument seems pretty silly since all firearms manufactured in the last 40+ years will have a serial number.

The author of the bill sums it up best:

“Firearms are inextricably linked to the history and culture of Montana, and I’d like to support that,” said Montana state Rep. Joel Boniek, the bill’s sponsor. “But I want to point out that the issue here is not about firearms. It’s about state rights.”

In an age of the massive Federal power grab, this will be an interesting story to follow….

The folks who stayed home (not voting), of course counted against releasing the bill.

I realize the Senators had just come from a Republican session where they were told to keep their head down, don’t make waves, and don’t get the NE corridor folks thrown out of office by making controversy, but seriously, this many liberals in the Republican party?

And we are constantly told that the party is too exclusive.

You could not build a tent this big with last years total production of canvas.

BE SURE and contact these RINOS and send some love their way. If you sit quietly, guess what.

They already think they are smarter than you dumb conservatives and must show you the enlightened way.

There is very little difference between these folks and the socialists across the aisle. Make yourself hard to ignore. You never know:

Barrasso (R-WY), Yea

Bennett (R-UT), Yea

Cochran (R-MS), Yea

Collins (R-ME), Yea

Crapo (R-ID), Yea

Enzi (R-WY), Yea

Hatch (R-UT), Yea

Lugar (R-IN), Yea

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea

Risch (R-ID), Yea

Snowe (R-ME), Yea  and

Wicker (R-MS), Yea

Regards

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
The GOP Christmas Breakfast will be held at the Catawba Country Club

on December 6,2008 from 9:00 am – 11:00 am. The cost is $17.00 per adult.

The 2009 officers for the Men's Forum are as follows:

President - Eric Farr
1st Vice-President - Richard Thompson
2nd Vice-President / Secretary - Clifton Smith
Treasurer - Gary Mayes

There will not be a December Men's Forum or Women's club meeting.

The January meeting of the Men's Forum & Women's Club

will be held on the 2nd Thur in January, Jan. 7, 2009

I would like to have one of the Women's Club

members to email me any announcements,

and the planned program for the coming month to me

as the information becomes available

to you.

Ed Readling
edread@charter.net
828-612-1755

The bulk of the polls I have seen typically oversample Demoncrats as much as double digits, but still only come up with single digit leads.

The projections are also based on inflated Demoncrat registrations, (Op Chaos), leading to further inflated numbers.

I’ll stick my neck out and say unless the Demoncrats literally steal the election, McCain/Palin will be leading this country in January.

At that point we can start beating the drum to try to get McCain to be more conservative, but if he didn’t win, we would have much bigger problems than Mac and the global warming hoax.

Regards

Remember, vote early and often!

Rights such as the “Right to housing”

“Right” you say? Yes , indeed. I found it in the Constitution!
The communist constitution.
Ch7, Article 44.

Hmmm… OK. How about a “Right” to an education. Hear a lot about that one.
Yep, there is in the Constitution.
The communist constitution.
Ch7 Article 45.

Right to healthcare?

It’s in the constitution.
The communist constitution.
Ch7 Article 42

A right to social security and welfare?
It’s in the Constitution.
The communist constitution.
Ch7 Article 43.

So… if you care to compare the Demoncrat platform to the communist constitution, you can lay aside any doubts about the inspiration for same.

If you ever had any doubts about the intentions of the present day Demoncratic party, go to
http://www.thisnation.com/library/ussr.html and read it for yourself.

The media belittles those who sound the warning bell, but the media is a part of the problem, not the solution.

If you can read the above link and still get behind a party that supports same, then don’t come griping when the misery and horrors occur that have accompanied every other socialist government established on this earth, for there is no where else to run.

Regards

The bill, S. 2280 appears to set up multimillion dollar penalties for “Mortgage professionals” who seek to execute a “scheme or artifice”

The bill:
`(a) In General- It shall be unlawful for any mortgage
professional to knowingly
execute, or attempt to execute, a scheme or artifice–

        `(1) to defraud any natural

person or financial institution in connection
with the offer or extension of consumer credit (as such term is defined in subsections
(e) and (h) under section 103 of the Truth in Lending Act (15 U.S.C. 1602(e) and (h))),
which credit is, or is to be, secured by an interest–

              `(A) in real property; or

              `(B) in personal property used

or expected to be used as the principal
dwelling (as such term is defined under section 103(v) of the Truth in Lending Act (15
U.S.C. 1602(v))) of the natural person
to whom such consumer credit is offered or
extended; or

        `(2) to obtain, by means of false or

fraudulent pretenses, representations,
or promises, any money or property, including without limitation in the form of fees or
charges, from a natural person in connection with an extension of consumer credit secured
by an interest–

              `(A) in real property; or

              `(B) in personal property used or expected to

be used as the principal
dwelling of such natural person;

Read twice and submitted to the Banking, Housing and Urban Committee.

Now, just what this bill would have done any different to stop Obama’s friends at Fannie Mae escapes me. He obviously thinks we are too lazy to dig it up. He knows that he will get the usual free pass from the Liberal Media if this bill somehow received some scrutiny.

I wonder if we should ask one of our great legal minds, the Gamecock, to peruse the bill, to determine with certainty that the above conclusions are correct.

Notwithstanding the outcome of close legal examination, the fact remains Obama did not appear to pursue this issue. Since his friends at Fannie Mae who profited greatly from activities that would make an Enron executive blush and ran roughshod over the law without fear of examination, I have serious doubts that anything in S. 2280 would have impacted the situation.

As it is said in the deep south, once again, Obama is “full of beans.”

Regards

Warning! This is long, but full of parallels with todays situation.

It describes the sabotage of the economy by the Dems in the 30s.

Recall that the the world had a depression in the 20-30s, but in the US it was turned into a “Great Depression”, never really recovering until WW II.

You may not be able to find this in Wikipedia. But listen to the words of a very significant eye witness with a front row seat.

The Honorable
Simeon D. Fess
United States Senate

My Dear Mr. Senator:

I am glad to respond to your request that I put in writing for your records, the statement I made to you yesterday as to the economic situation at the moment, and the causes thereof.

Today we are on the verge of financial panic and chaos. Fear for the policies of the new administration has gripped the country. People do not await events, they act. Hoarding of currency, and of gold, has risen to a point never before known; banks are suspending not only in isolated instances, but in one case an entire state. Prices have fallen since last autumn below the levels which debtors and creditors can meet. Men over large areas are unable or are refusing to pay their debts. Hundreds of millions of orders placed before election have been cancelled. Unemployment is increasing, there are evidences of the flight of capital from the United States to foreign countries, men have abandoned all sense of new enterprise and are striving to put their affairs in defense against disaster.

Some days before election the whole economic machine began to hesitate from the upward movement of last summer and fall. For some time after election it continued to hesitate but hoped for the best. As time has gone on, however, every development has stirred the fear and apprehenshion of the people. They have begun to realize what the abandonment of a successful program of this administration which was bringing rapid recovery last summer and fall now means and they are alarmed at possible new deal policies indicated by the current events. It is this fear that now dominates the national situation. It is not lack of resources, currency, or or dit.

The incidents which have produced this fear are clear. There was a delay by the President-elect of over two months in willingness to cooperate with us to bring about order from confusion in our [illegible] economic relations. There have been a multitude of speeches, bills, and statements of democratic members of Congress and others proposing inflation or tinkering with the currency. My proposals for reduction of expenditures have been ignored to the extent of over $200,000,000 by the Democratic House of Representatives. The differences between Democratic leaders and the President-elect over the basis of taxation with which to balance the budget caused them to reject the balancing of the budget. The publication by Democratic leaders of the House of the Reconstruction Corporation loans has caused runs on hundreds of banks, failures of many of them, and hoarding on a wide scale. There have been proposed in Congress by Democratic leaders and publicly even by the President-elect, projects involving federal expenditure of tremendous dimensions which would obviously lie beyond the capacity of the federal government to borrow without tremendous depreciation in government securities. Such proposals as the bills to assume Federal responsibility for billions of mortgage loans to municipalities for public works, the Tennessee improvement and Muscle Shoals, are all of this order. The proposals of Speaker Garner that constitutional government should be abandoned because the Congress, in which there will be an overwhelming majority, is unable to face reduction of expenses, has started a chatter of dictatorship. The President-elect has done nothing publicly to disavow any of these proposals.

The Democratic House has defeated a measure to increase tariffs so as to prevent invasion of goods from depreciated currency countries, thus estopping increased unemployment from this source. There have been interminable delays and threatened defeat of the Glass Banking Bill, and the Bankruptcy bill.

How much of this whole situation is the result of fear of the policies of the new administration is further indicated by a short review of the five distinct periods in recent economic history.

The first period began with the financial and monetary collapse of Europe in the last half of 1931 culminating in October, bringing contractions of credit and reduction of exports, falling prices of both commodities and securities, followed by great fear and apprehension in the people which was promptly represented by hoarding, bank failures, flight of capital, withdrawal of foreign gold balances with final interpretation in decreased employment, demoralization of agriculture and general stagnation.

The second period following the approval of Congress of our measures of reconstruction in early February 1932 was a period of sharp recovery over a period between 60 and 90 days; during this period public confidence was restored, prices of commodities and securities rose, currency began to return from hoarding, gold shipments abroad were greatly lessened, bank failures practically ceased and the whole country moved upward.

The third period began in April and continued through July. This was a period of sharp debacle which was brought about by the Democratic House by the same character of proposals we now see again, that is by the original failure of the revenue bill, the failure to reduce expenditures recommended by the Executive with consequent fear that the movement toward balancing the budget would not be successful; the passage of a group of inflationary measures including the Patman Bill, the Goldsborough Bill, etc. The passage of a series of projects which would have required greater issues of government securities than the Treasury could support including the Garner Bills for gigantic public works and unlimited loans by the Reconstruction Corporation, etc. Public confidence was destroyed; hoarding, withdrawal of foreign gold, decrease in employment, falling prices and general economic demoralization took place.

The fourth period began about the adjournment of Congress when it was assured that these destructive measures were defeated and that constructive measures would be held. This period extended from July until October and was a period of even more definite march out of the depression. Employment was increasing at the rate of half a million men a month, bank failures ceased, hoarded currency was flowing back steadily and gold was returning from abroad, car loadings, commodity and security and all the other proofs of emergence from the depression were visible to every one. Fear and despair had again been replaced by hope and confidence.

The fifth period began shortly before the election when the outcome became evident, and has lasted until today. I have already recited its events.

The causes of this terrible retrogression and fear in this fifth period have an exact parallel in the third period of last spring. The fact that there was no disavowal of the actions of last spring by the Democratic candidates during the campaign lends added color and alarm that the same actions and proposals which are now repeated in this period positively represent the policies of the new administration—and the people are seeking to protect themselves individually but with national damage. The movement forward in recovery of our people is again defeated by precisely the same factors as last spring and again emanating from the Democratic leaders.

In the interest of every man, woman, and child, the President-elect has, during the past week, been urged by the saner leaders of his own party such as Senator Glass and othes, by myself, and by Democratic bankers and economists whom he has called on for advice, to stop the conflagration before it becomes uncontrollable, by announcing firmly and at once (a) that the budget will be balanced even if it means increased taxation; (b) new projects will be so restricted that government bond issues will not in any way endanger stability of government finances; (c) there will be no inflation or tampering with the currency; to which some have added that as the Democratic party coming in with an overwhelming majority in both houses, there can be no excuse for abandonment of Constitutional processes.

The President-elect is the only man who has the power to give assurances which will stabilize public mind as he alone can execute them. Those assurances should have been given before now but must be given at once if the situation is to be greatly helped. It would allay some fear and panic whereas delay will make the situation more acute.

The present administration is devoting its days and nights to put out the fires and localize them. I have scrupulously refrained from criticism which is well merited but have instead been giving repeated assurances to the country of our desire to cooperate and help the new administration.

What is needed, if the country is not to drift into great grief, is the immediate and emphatic restoration of confidence in the future. The resources of the country are incalculable, the available credit is ample but lenders will not lend, and are withdrawing their resources and their energies. The courage and enterprise of the people still exist and only wait release from fears and apprehension.

The day will come when the Democratic party will endeavor to place the responsibility for the events of this Fifth period on the Republican Party. When that day comes I hope you will invite the attention of the American people to the actual truth.

Yours faithfully,
(signed) Herbert Hoover

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” -Santayana

Letter unedited, typos present in source material preserved as found.

Regards

Papers collected by Wm Starr Myers

http://www.geocities.com/mb_williams/hooverpapers/1933/paper1933022

Stephanoupolos, this very morning took time to tell us that why McCain can’t elected with Palin on the ticket. She is a “drag” on the ticket.

This former Clinton lackey is just one example of hundreds in the LibMedia that have zeroed in Palin.

I love it.

If Stephie knew he was right,instead of disparaging her, he would be having a party to celebrate winning the election. Instead he realizes she will carry the day, and that scares the dickens out of him and the other little Lenins out there in the LibMedia.

I have a rule of thumb that has yet to let me down:

“If the LibMedia hate someone, I’m probably going to love them”

So, I often let the Socialist supporting LibMedia filter which people I should pay attention to. If they like a candidate, they are generally anti-freedom with a Socialist bent and vice-versa.

Of, course, we could just compare our veep candidate to their presidential candidate. Try to get that discussion airtime..

“May you live in interesting times” – Old Chinese Curse

Regards

My apologies to Newt if I misinterpet his words.
Newt is a straight shooter, so there is no doubletalk to wade through.

Paulson, who as you all know by now, proposed giving himself carte-blanche over 700 Billion dollars with out administration, congressional or court oversight.

Then Newt discussed a meeting with the NY FED concerning AIG bailout.
The only private individual in the room was the CEO of Goldman Sachs, Paulson’s former employer.

The AIG bailout was 80 Billion, of which Goldman Sachs held 20 Billion in exposure!!? And they were given special treatment.

The former speaker also mentioned that President Bush should fire Paulson.

I was surprised, but appreciated his candor.

I heartily agree with the speaker, Paulson must go!

He has left the appearance of looking out for his Goldman Sachs buddies, and I believe it. His actions allow for personally drawing no other conclusion.

The Goldman Sachs travesty transcends parties, however.

Recall back in Clinton days when the Mexico bailout occurred, guess who stood to loose a massive amount of money. Gee, you’re good! Goldman Sachs.

Paulson’s objectivity is shot. Even if he is an honest guy, he has allowed his actions to raise the appearance of impropriety.

Just say no to socialism! and Paulson.

Regards

Also mentioned was her performance responding to questions from reporters.

This, of course, prompted some thought about the causes of this drop.

The possible reason that causes me the most concern is “McCain”izing Palin.

McCain’s mediocre standing on conservative issues was greatly enhanced when Sara Palin came on strong with her conservative views.

To try to clone her to be a little McCain will only hurt the party’s standing that was gained with the Palin selection.

The Veep selection is often done to try to “balance” the ticket.
To neutralize that advantage would be a huge mistake.

Just as McCain is able to debate well by responding from his well established stands, Palin will debate effectively by responding from her core values.

Should she be required to debate by being someone other than herself, then her effectiveness is substantially diminished.

Just watch Obama try to be someone else as an example.

If Senator McCain can look past his rather large ego, I believe Palin will help deliver the day. If not, the country goes down the Democrat toilet.

“May you live in interesting times” – Old Chinese Curse

We are certainly living in “interesting” times.

Regards

Crowley was pitching fastballs, (albeit fictional fastballs) and Bachman had no idea that she could say:

John McCain co-sponsored legislation in 2006 and warned us about the coming financial crisis.

see: http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=74063c9d-7cb5-47c9-acf6-53c0c2d88376

Legislation that was stopped by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.

see: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_092608/content/01125108.guest.html

End of story.

Since she had no credible response, and Crowley had no qualms about lying boldly on national TV, most of the public will think this clown was right.

Not to pick on Bachman alone, I see Republicans take it on the chin daily, even on Fox, because they don’t have the foresight to anticipate the questions they may get and have ready answers.

I have resisted throwing a heavy object through the TV thus far….

The race is ours to lose.

If Republicans keep going on TV unprepared, or Republicans try to muzzle Gov. Palin, we may just lose this race to a Marxist.

Regards

Why shouldn’t he believe it. If he turns on any of the little 4 networks or picks up a newspaper, he gets beat over the head with this mantra day and night by commentators who “get a tingle up their leg,” thinking about Socialist candidates.

If the conservative movement of Goldwater is dead, this country is done for.

In spite of wishful thinking of the blueblood Republicans and the liberals (some spell that “moderates”) in this country, reports of the conservative movement’s demise are greatly exaggerated.

Since the days of media monopoly when liberals from Cronkite on had exclusive control of what we were allowed to hear, to today when there are alternative ways to get the truth to the people, there have been attempts to water down the conservative message.

Drop a frog in a pot of hot water and he will jump out.
Drop a frog in a pot of cool water and bring the heat up slowly, just a bit at a time, and before the frog knows it, he is cooked.

I shall not be cooked!

The alternative of conservatism in this country is presently Socialism.
“As long as I got my six pack and TV remote, I’m happy”
“The government will take care of it”
“I sure do like that free cheese”

Allowing other men to enslave us economically is enslavement still.

The hand that feeds receives your full attention.

Unfortuately, that hand , for many is the goverment.

Roosevelt’s plan to keep the Demoncrats in power for the next 50 years came mighty close, at great peril to the country.
The Demoncrat Socialist method of buying votes by taking money out of other’s pockets has met with some success, but is not sustainable. (Look up USSR)

Principles and character do not change.

They are noble lasting things. Only people change, and when they cannot or will not measure up to noble ideals, they belittle the standards and try to lower everyone’s sights so they are not perceived as missing the mark.

We should all be so bold as to look in the mirror and make an honest evaluation of where we stand.

Most will not.

“Do not grow weary in well doing.”

Regards

Sadly their main effectiveness is with other people who are unfamiliar with the topic chosen, Christianity.

Gorki seems to indicate it is ok if you are some lukewarm, benchwarmer Christian, (probably because they usually warm a bench and don’t get in the devil’s way.)

However, if you are part of an evangelical movement that shares their religion and changes peoples lives, then you are to be feared. Gorki even brings up belief in the Holy Spirit as disqualification for our vice presidential candidate.

Gorki then associated Palin’s name with the feared and dreaded John Ashcroft. Thank you Gorki, Palin’s numbers should rise fifteen points.

Gorki’s concern that Palin believes that God is involved in events on this ball of mud is interesting in itself.
He treats Christianity much the same as the explorer who discovers the small group of indigenous people who had never seen the outside world and practice some unknown religion.

I wonder what he would have written if Palin had been a Muslim or a Hindu or just a plain old heathen?

Besides, what part of “Thou shall not kill” and “Thou shall not steal” is bad for people?

Perhaps on the next road trip Gorki should check for a Gideon Bible in the nightstand and do a little research.

Might be a first for him.

Regards

This lunch was very revealing about the politics of the crowd.
Being a rural school, the mix was about five conservatives and two Demoncrats.
The loudest proponent of any position was a staunch GOP man. His delivery,
unfortunately, was very loud and abrasive, doing nothing to sway the Democrat that he was having the exchange with.

In truth, I am sure the Dem’s position was entrenched by the onslaught.

When asked if I could support a candidate like Obama, I smiled and replied that I held no Marxist leanings, thus, I could not. For the rest of the lunch I resisted the terribly strong temptation to stir the pot.

After lunch, in the hallway, I ran into the Obama proponent, who I had not had any cross words with and chatted.
I asked of him, with straight face and without being condescending, what Obama brought to the table.

“Well I don’t like Bush,” came out, but I pressed gently for an answer to my question.
Bear in mind this nice person got most of his information from M(arxist)S(ocialist)NBC, so there were no surprises. Obama was going to put it to the rich people and lower his taxes.

When faced with the numbers, that if the top two- percent were taxed 100%, it would still only operate the government for a few days, someone would have to pay for all the new spending, the fellow began to wonder who would foot the bill.

He then asked me what McCain/Palin brought to the table. We started with national security, smaller government, and worked down the list…..
No comment.

Turns out, this fellow owned rental property and had sold some real estate in the past. I got him to think about a ten or fifteen percent increase in capital gains taxes and the impact on his pocket book. By this point he mentioned that he was really more of an Independent than a Democrat.

My point is that some folks are ignorant and thus hold their socialist views, and some folks are just stupid.
If a person is a rabid Democrat and falls in the latter category, I would advise against trying to rehabilitate them.

Doing so is much like trying to teach a pig to sing. You will only frustrate yourself and really irritate the pig.

If they are merely ignorant, having been raised on MSNBC and the media without any factual content, a gentle nudging may pay large dividends from time to time.

If they have the permanent type of problem though, well, remember the pig…

Regards