DADT: a recruiter’s perspective


I was a military recruiter for 5 years.  Repealing DADT is the beginning not the end of a misguided (my opinion) effort for equality.

Each service is slightly different, but currently the system works something like this.

Each area of the country has detailed demographics containing the eligible (age, education, etc) population group of recruits for that region.  Each service determines its market share.  The market share is sub divided into Upper Mental Group goals (as defined by the ASVAB test) for the following:

Female Upper Mental Group

Black Upper Mental Group

Hispanic Upper Mental Group

Asian / Pacific Islander Upper Mental Group

Each month you are graded on achieving your overall recruiting goal as well as the minority subgoals.  A shortfall in this approach is that it has an underlying assumption of an equal propensity to enlist for the different minority groups.  In reality, propensity to enlist varies among different regions and ethnic groups.

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Back to DADT

It will only be a matter of time before the recruiters have a homosexual recruiting goal based on their local demographics.  This will be how Congress will ensure that recruiters are “being fair and equal” in their recruiting efforts. I doubt homosexuals have the same propensity to enlist in the military as heterosexuals but I doubt that will be factored in.  I predict there will be a concerted effort, directed from Congress, to actively recruit homosexuals through media and outreach.  Instead of recruiting to fit a standard, we will be defining the standard by recruiting goals.

Also, in a few years, don’t be surprised to see controls on promotion boards.

Repealing DADT is a beginning of a crusade.  Too bad our politicians either were too blind to see it or too gutless to oppose it.



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Well said OC

fpete13527 (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:16AM EST (link)

DADT

zornorph Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:47PM EST (link)

I actually disagree that gays will be wanting to sign up at a lower rate than hetrosexual people. I would suspect that it’s going to be at a higher rate. If anything, I would worry that any particular branch of the service might get a reputation for being ‘gay’ and that might steer some straight people away from it.

How do you figure that?

jeffreywturner (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:59PM EST (link)

I mean, how do you figure that gays will want to enlist a higher rate than heterosexuals?

Perhaps if you narrowed it down to only females, then perhaps yeh, I could see a greater propensity for gay females to want to enter something that has traditionally been a masculine role. For males on the other hand (which make up the bulk of the military), I just have not seen any evidence to suggest that gay males would be more inclined to enlist that straight males.

I am interested to hear your line of thinking on this.

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

Gays

zornorph Thursday, December 23rd at 7:17PM EST (link)

Well, there is a actually a significant ‘macho’ culture in gay society that is attracted to things like the military. Obviously the more effeminate guys are not going to want to be in the military, but I’ve met a fair amount that are hyper-macho (the slang term is ‘muscle mary’) and it’s not an insignificant group. Plus, there’s quite a lot in the military culture for that sort of gay guy who really doesn’t enjoy interacting with women all that much. I mean, there’s a reason there are so many gays in the military even now when they have to hide their orientation.

 
 
 

Hey Old_Crow,

jeffreywturner (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 7:07PM EST (link)

What is your take on the net effect on overall recruiting?

It is not a secret that the types of folks who tend to serve in the US Armed Forces are not the left-wing, peace-monkey live & let live types. We all know that our current force leans conservative in their values (and voting habits).

Now there will clearly be SOME openly gay individuals who will enlist as a result of the change, There will also clearly be SOME more conservative straight individuals who will not enlist because they don’t want to have to sleep & shower with openly gay members.

Do you think the additional manpower we get from the increase in openly gay members enlisting will offset the loss of manpower due to traditional values types enlisting in lower numbers?

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

for the next year or so, I don't see much of a change.

Old_Crow (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 3:13PM EST (link)

Most folks will be waiting to see how this policy is interpreted into action.
I currently live in the area that I recruited in, so am in contact with the active duty recruiters (I still find a referral or two) and will pass along any significant changes.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison

 
 

Thank you for bringing your knowledge base.

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 3:39PM EST (link)

Speculation is all well and good, but boots on the ground (perfect analogy, right?) is where we can get our best info.

Proper grammar saves lives.

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Let’s eat, Grandma.


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