Peace Action West responded to Diggs Brown’s response to the a survey about foreign policy that I wrote a diary about last week. Their response is so full of logical fallacies that it would take a month to deconstruct. Most of it is an appeal to authority of a list of dubious foreign policy experts (really, Arnold Schwarzenegger?). Rebecca Griffin tries to play off of Brown’s humorous introduction with one of her own.
I am an advocate of a smart foreign policy that actually makes Americans safer. You’re someone who thinks a 30,000-pound bunker-busting bomb is a “diplomatic tool.” This is not going to be pretty.
Smart Foreign Policy to Rebecca is to send some civilians into a combat zone with who knows what to talk with terrorists who would just as soon kill them and themselves into living peacefully together. The reference to Goodwin’s Law was a good one, well except that Diggs referred to many other treaties that were broken through the years and recently. The entire article is a pick-and-choose to reinforce their talking points. They gloss over or completely ignore important aspects of Brown’s response; primarily that he has been there, and they have not.
Unfortunately, Griffin didn’t really respond directly to Brown’s response, but rather used it to just re-iterate the same talking points again. Most glaringly, this can be seen in her response to Brown’s statements that no civilian organization can respond as quickly as the United States Military,
Mr. Brown appears to find the idea of civilian humanitarian efforts hilarious. However I, along with millions of generous Americans, funneled our money to those efforts through the Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, Partners in Health, and other civilian organizations that are doing amazing, life saving work on the ground in Haiti.
Brown no where mentioned that these organizations aren’t important. In fact, I know he’d say they are vitally important. The simple fact is they don’t have the resources to respond at a moment’s notice. There’s no reason to duplicate this ability with a civilian force. The United States military can provide this service now, and has been extremely effective in the past.
People like Griffin have the idea that if we just use the right words all these people that hate us will just stop fighting. They’ll lay down their weapons and nukes and we’ll all sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya. The terrorists in Afghanistan and elsewhere have no intention of ever doing that. They live by force, and only understand the diplomatic tool of a ready response of force.
If you appreciate what Diggs Brown has done for America as a soldier, and support what he wants to do as a congressman, there’s something you can do about it. There’s a money bomb for Diggs this week. Throw him a few bones and show the constituents in Colorado’s 4th District that there’s someone willing to go fight for them in Washington.
Cross-posted at Night Twister
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You mean...
fmaidment (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 7:47PM EST (link)…a 30,000lbs bunker-busting bomb isn’t a diplomatic tool?
Actually, I agree with that. Because a 15-ton “bunker buster” doesn’t exist. The MOAB is designed to clear landing zones. Perhaps, before commenting on the military, Ms. Griffin would like to learn something about it first?
Yes, Ms. Griffin, I also believe a 2,000 satellite-guided bomb dropped from 30,000 feet and 25 miles away is an effective diplomatic tool. It is extremely effective at forcing intransigent opponents to come to a negotiating table in good faith.
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reading the articles, both understood it didn't exist -nt-
hickorystick (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 8:19PM EST (link)Who said "Speak softly and... then speak more softly?"
nessa (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 9:20PM EST (link)Or maybe it was “Speak softly and bow more deeper.” Progressive diplomacy is so confusing.
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Either the MOAB or several satellite guided bombs
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 11:13PM EST (link)would be best used if dropped on Turtle Bay.
We've got these type of anti-war pacifist libs
hickorystick (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 8:50PM EST (link)here in Seattle also. Nothing can penetrate their wall of denial that they have created inside their own head. It’s amazing how this woman dismisses facts with her ‘I’m sure that might be true, in some circumstances’, then proceeds on as if it is irrelevant. Even with her cutting-and pasting limited portions of his responce, and arguing it out between herself, he still smoked her.
I don't have to go far to find
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 9:00PM EST (link)anti-war types here. All I have to do is drive down in to Houston and I can find them. For major peaceniks I have to go to Austin(a good 3 hr drive from Spring). It’s so good have the answers from Diggs(sounds like any good Republican here in Texas[well the exception is the kookoo in the 14th Congressional district]). There is no need to disarm in a world like this(it’s the dumbest thing ever).
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
It's the Major Peaceniks I was talking about
hickorystick (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 10:39PM EST (link)the ones with the glassy faces. From my television viewpoint, Austin looks like occupied territory (show Austin City Limits on PBS). Around here they were still pasting No Iraq War bumperstickers to the face of stop signs a year and a half after we were in.
Just wait until you get in to the heart of things
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 11:02PM EST (link)like South Austin or better yet, the lefties favorite place, Hippie Hollow(Nudist colony). Peaceniks don’t well in San Antonio(although one got elected as a councilwomen for 2 terms[no more than that and they don't get paid]). I think the Montrose section of Houston has a good contingent of Peaceniks. Austin is the only place I know that one can drive on I-35 and see something weird. BTW, Austin City Limits was better in a way when Austin didn’t have Public Broadcasting station of it’s own and used San Antonio’s. When good Country acts went on, it was quite good then(of course that’s been a good 20 yrs).
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
There was an anti-war march in the street
hickorystick (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 11:34PM EST (link)in the Judkins Park Area with about three hundred losers. They had 10 motorcycle cops, 4 bike-cops, couple dozen on foot, plus an ambulance. At the second T-Party rally downtown at Westlake Park we had 700 Prol-Americans, with the two smallest cops on the force. I think they took them out of accounting.
Unusual because the downtown beat has guys that could make Shwartzenegger look like another extra in a movie.
She did the best she could
aesthete (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 3:55PM EST (link)but defending the logically indefensible is hard to do, and no amount of polish can make it palatable.
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