Comments on: Eric Holder Will Decide if You Belong to a Hate Group

By: rcov092

rcov092 — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:17:16 +0000

on one list? You are automatically granted membership on any subsequent list. In fact, membership on multiple lists gets you automatically assigned to the Southernmost gulag where M13 will be the contracted guard.

By: CodeRedinPA

CodeRedinPA — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:52:09 +0000

….black Nationalist tattoos????? Or those Mexica Che/La Raza tattoos????

Oooops!!!!! There I go again!. I forgot…..One can’t belong to a hate group unless HE is a STRAIGHT, CHRISTIAN, CAUCASIAN.

Democrats have to know they are over-reaching when The ACLU might become an ally of convenience.

By: CodeRedinPA

CodeRedinPA — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:24:27 +0000

I am NOT taking down the “Red State Strike Force” badge off of my blog site…..

By: restofva

restofva — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:38:10 +0000

(A) Individuals possessing tattoos or other body markings indicating association or affiliation with a hate group.

By: Rod_Patrick

Rod_Patrick — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:27:44 +0000

By: reason60

reason60 — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:29:49 +0000

Right Wing Terrorism? Given that there is legal precedent for holding accused terror suspects without habeas corpus, without an opportunity to protest one’s innocence, you have the loss of liberty our Founders feared.

By: Warrior

Warrior — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:24:23 +0000

What’s next, prison if we refuse to sing the “Obama Loves Me” song?

mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm

By: Mike gamecock DeVine

Mike gamecock DeVine — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:52:24 +0000

http://www.redstate.com/nighttwister/2009/10/09/eric-holder-will-decide-if-you-belong-to-a-hate-group/#comment-752

By: lukematthews

lukematthews — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:47:46 +0000

This is a resurrection of the Federalist law that Adams signed but never enforced. Acceptable speech will be decided by the national government and the officeholder therein instead of by the listeners. The entire reason we have free speech is for the dissenters. To have those in power decide who is speaking ‘correctly’ and who is not is Orwellian madness. Gee, I wonder whose speech will be chilled by criminal action and whose will not? I still believe in letting them open their mouths and expose their real beliefs so we can judge the content for ourselves. That is much better than inciting secretive whisperings and cabals among the populace.

They are cutting off their noses to spite their faces. It’s nuts.

By: UpLateAgain

UpLateAgain — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:44:05 +0000

Federalizing hate crimes means if they choose, a separate federal crime can be charged, even after an acquittal at state level. Double jeopardy protections become a thing of the past. They can do that now when a civil rights violation is deemed to have occurred (witness the cops in the Rodney King case), but this legislation allows prosecution for hate crimes against the government…. hate crimes as they, or even just Holder defines them. You can’t have a civil rights violation against the government. This is much, much worse.

By: reason60

reason60 — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:02:11 +0000

This is not a good development for liberty.
I am writing a diary entry on this topic.

By: reason60

reason60 — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:01:09 +0000

this is not good news for liberty.
I am writing a diary entry on this topic.

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:49:34 +0000

The Alien act had nothing wrong with it at all.

The Sedition act is a trickier issue, but the Alien act was absolutely right, and Jefferson showed his radicalism when he opposed it.

By: randy streu

randy streu — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:17:21 +0000

Next task is the hate group list.

Then you’ll be an extreme hate group activist.

By: Erick Brockway

Erick Brockway — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:46:17 +0000

I thought I was already on their watch list. You mean I have to try out again??

By: David123

David123 — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:37:38 +0000

By: randy streu

randy streu — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:22:31 +0000

thanks for the intel, NT.

By: Finrod

Finrod — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:23:23 +0000

By: Mike gamecock DeVine

Mike gamecock DeVine — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:24:59 +0000

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:05:15 +0000

First, it puts pressure on local and prosecutors to file charges in a dubious case that gains attention in order to avoid being labeled as racist, etc, by virture of the Federal government intervening.

It puts pressure on defendants to plea bargain to avoid also facing Federal charges.

In turn, by increasing the number of prosecutions and convictions on hate crimes, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as social “scientist” look at the increased numbers and use those statistics to pronounce the law as “necessary” and “effective” and ammunition to expand its scope and intensify enforcement.

Which brings us ever close to a dictatorship where the government defines by law dissent as criminal activity.