News this morning of a big volcanic eruption in Iceland, grounding transatlantic flights (story here).
Volcanos spew large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, but they also throw a lot of dust into the upper atmosphere (which is why flights are grounded). Guess what? The dust is a much stronger “global cooling” element than the CO2. A big volcano erupting in the northern hemisphere is going to cause a hellaciously cold winter (we got -60 ground temps in northern MN after the eruption of Pinotubo, and two more winters that were harsher than normal – by Minnesota standards!).
If we can push cap and trade legislation back till next year, people are going to see 2 things:
1) There’s no increase in warming, despite the large carbon footprint of this eruption
2) Putting a few tons of ash into the upper atmosphere would effectively cancel (and then some!) any effect of human-produced CO2.
This is a perfect “teachable moment”. Using a few old ICBMs to deliver a payload of talk to the upper atmosphere would cost a few tens of millions of dollars (if that – the missiles would otherwise be decomissioned), as opposed to the trillions of dollars that a cap-and-trade program would cost. It would actually deliver a solution to the (probably non-existant) problem of global warming (which cap-and-trade WON’T), it would cost a fraction of what cap-and-trade would cost, and it would eliminate the need for a massive government-run intrusion into every aspect of our business and personal lives (oh, wait – that last one might not be viewed as a plus by certain people.
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There hasn't been a correlation between CO2 input and warming
renny (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 9:32AM EST (link)No warming was evident during World Wars I and II when excessive fossil fuels were egregiously released in concentrated amounts.
The 1940s were actually the beginning of a cooling period that lasted into the late 1970s, when the alarmists were predicting a new ice age for about a decade.
So, I’m not worried the CO2 from a volcanic eruption will somehow create warming, regardless of the dust. The dust, can, however, really produce cooling, as we’ve had “years without summer” from previous volcanic disasters within recorded history.
That's because it was all part of the Statist religion
drohan00 (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 11:41AM EST (link)They don’t have to have facts. They just have to believe. They need something. Cap and Tax is the holy grail after healthcare for the statist left. These people want to re-enact the Spanish Inquisition only on environmental grounds.
drohan00 this was a great reply, but
Veronica (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 2:04PM EST (link)I’m surprised you didn’t apply this thinking in your START post.
Off topic, but I think you’re too dismissive of Obama as “naive.”
He’s set on destroying this country through both foreign and domestic policy.
It doesn’t stop at our shores.
Wish you’d apply this to START and his de-balling — oops — de-nuking us.
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Pray as if everything depends on God, and work as if everything depends on us. – St. Augustine
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I wish you'd read my entire thread on START...
drohan00 (Diary) Saturday, April 17th at 9:26PM EST (link)as long as SDI is off the table, and we can develop it as we see fit, I will support a strategic arms control that allows us to verify loose nuclear fuel in Russia is being handled properly. If that means we get rid of a few of our older nukes, and let the Russians see us do it, then so be it.
I trust Dick Lugar and Sam Nunn on these issues. I also trust Dick Lugar to not throw america under the bus. That is where I stand.
I do not trust Obama, but he is the president. Maybe I’m naive. But it will take a grave move on my part to say the president is a traitor. Stupidly naive, yes. Jimmy Carteresque, yes. But not a traitor, I can’t bring myself to that point yet.
I did read your thread
Veronica (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 1:28PM EST (link)and toward the end you were reconsidering your position.
I’m making the point that you can’t be hardcore anti-marxist religion of environmentalism (money grabber, diminish US economy) and not be pro-superpower defense posturing.
Lugar’s squishy. He pals around with Biden and Kerry and the Heinz family recently gave him and Nunn an award.
Too close to comfort for my tastes and what GOP reformists are aiming for.
You like ‘em, that’s your perogative.
I post these comments for the benefit of others, not to sway you.
Money is power. Patreus says so himself. How is giving up your big guns power?
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You probably meant "talc", but I would be in favor of sending "talk" to the upper atmosphere, too. nt
Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 11:51AM EST (link)The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
One problem
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 2:25PM EST (link)The left radical chameleons changed from global warming to climate change. They’d easily shift the motivation of implementing their radical policy quickly to cooling and blame it on their opponents.
Just as they changed from “liberals” to progressives after they soiled the former label. Same $%^&, different name.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.