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		<title>A reverse wedge issue on Gay Marriage (Posted by a Democracy for America troll) (Now with a bonus! Comments enabled)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><a class="user" href="/users/neokorn/">Sam Thurber (DFA Troll)</a> (<a href="/neokorn/">Diary</a>)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><em>Sam Thurber is a moby.  He&#8217;s a DfA troll who&#8217;s trying to pretend to be a Republican in order to push his ideas. Blam. – NS (with a hat tip to ML)</em></p>
<p><em>Bonus: Albanian folk dancing! – NS (with a hat tip to Skanderbeg)</em></p>
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<p>This is admittedly a not well fleshed out idea, but I sense a gold-mine of opportunity. First lets be frank and acknowledge the Republican Party as we know it is in serious trouble. Instead of hand-wringing I&#8217;ve thought of one particularly brilliant idea (OK I was inspired by McCain&#8217;s daughter … yes I know, no need to flame me on that, I can flame myself).</p>
<p>Facts.<br />
1. The Democrat party has had a stranglehold on the gay vote for decades or more.<br />
2. The Democrats have failed to deliver.<br />
3. Equality is truly a Republican ideal.<br />
4. Keeping the government out of everyone&#8217;s business is another Republican ideal.<br />
5. Elections are more and more frequently won or lost by a handful of votes. The “gay vote” could be decisive.<br />
6.It&#8217;s where the country is headed anyway with the exception of Utah and portions of the Bible belt. Even that will all change with one Supreme Court decision (more than one constitutional lawyer has told me the once homosexuals are universally recognized as a minority, treating them differently under the law is difficult or impossible to defend legally.<br />
7.My wife is starting to get suspicious about how much time I&#8217;m spending on this :/</p>
<p>So … Here&#8217;s the big postulate and before you all tell me how stupid it is, think about it for at least a few minutes. The GOP should actively support Gay Marriage/Civil Unions en mass, in fact call all civil marriages, civil unions, and give the word marriage totally and completely to the Church, with the caveat that Religious protection is written into every single civil union law (I think we are headed there without that caveat eventually … a much worse position). That should keep Evangelicals in our tent. It will prevent us from defending a “separate but equal” doctrines everyone knows don&#8217;t work, and most ingeniously, It will make the Democrats swing desperately to the far left (stupidly thinking … or should I say “emoting” that its a shit to the left by us) to try to recapture the gay vote and they will alienate their base, independents, as well as any semi-intelligent homosexuals. My take on the first 100 days is 0 days spent on the gay agenda by Obama. The gay lobby is angry, and I think we have a real opening here. Obama is a lot of things but the “conventional wisdom” that he is gay friendly is at the very least seriously dubious. That is where the GOP can truly exploit things and expand our base enough to win back both houses of congress (and the White House in 2012). If done carefully, I believe it can be done without alienating the so called religious right if every law we support also adamantly supports religious freedom to not comply. Am I off my rocker? What do you all think?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sam Thurber is a moby.  He&#8217;s a DfA troll who&#8217;s trying to pretend to be a Republican in order to push his ideas. Blam. – NS (with a hat tip to ML)</em></p>
<p><em>Bonus: Albanian folk dancing! – NS (with a hat tip to Skanderbeg)</em></p>
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<p>This is admittedly a not well fleshed out idea, but I sense a gold-mine of opportunity. First lets be frank and acknowledge the Republican Party as we know it is in serious trouble. Instead of hand-wringing I&#8217;ve thought of one particularly brilliant idea (OK I was inspired by McCain&#8217;s daughter … yes I know, no need to flame me on that, I can flame myself).</p>
<p>Facts.<br />
1. The Democrat party has had a stranglehold on the gay vote for decades or more.<br />
2. The Democrats have failed to deliver.<br />
3. Equality is truly a Republican ideal.<br />
4. Keeping the government out of everyone&#8217;s business is another Republican ideal.<br />
5. Elections are more and more frequently won or lost by a handful of votes. The “gay vote” could be decisive.<br />
6.It&#8217;s where the country is headed anyway with the exception of Utah and portions of the Bible belt. Even that will all change with one Supreme Court decision (more than one constitutional lawyer has told me the once homosexuals are universally recognized as a minority, treating them differently under the law is difficult or impossible to defend legally.<br />
7.My wife is starting to get suspicious about how much time I&#8217;m spending on this :/</p>
<p>So … Here&#8217;s the big postulate and before you all tell me how stupid it is, think about it for at least a few minutes. The GOP should actively support Gay Marriage/Civil Unions en mass, in fact call all civil marriages, civil unions, and give the word marriage totally and completely to the Church, with the caveat that Religious protection is written into every single civil union law (I think we are headed there without that caveat eventually … a much worse position). That should keep Evangelicals in our tent. It will prevent us from defending a “separate but equal” doctrines everyone knows don&#8217;t work, and most ingeniously, It will make the Democrats swing desperately to the far left (stupidly thinking … or should I say “emoting” that its a shit to the left by us) to try to recapture the gay vote and they will alienate their base, independents, as well as any semi-intelligent homosexuals. My take on the first 100 days is 0 days spent on the gay agenda by Obama. The gay lobby is angry, and I think we have a real opening here. Obama is a lot of things but the “conventional wisdom” that he is gay friendly is at the very least seriously dubious. That is where the GOP can truly exploit things and expand our base enough to win back both houses of congress (and the White House in 2012). If done carefully, I believe it can be done without alienating the so called religious right if every law we support also adamantly supports religious freedom to not comply. Am I off my rocker? What do you all think?</p>
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