First things first.
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GROW A DAMN SPINE WILL YOU PLEASE!!!!!
I am not trying to be disrespectful to either of you two gentlemen and we appreciate your hard work of course but may I offer some of what I feel to be some helpful criticism and some good advice as a humble private citizen.
For the love of God will you please stand up for the party and stop running from your own base.
I am speaking specifically of the way that both of you have seemed to run away from what Rush Limbaugh said about wanting Barack Obama’s socialist policies to fail.
I watched your recent responses on T.V. regarding his statement and it seemed that you two could not get away from the man fast enough.
The next time some stupid reporter asks you what you think of what Rush Limbaugh said about Barack Obama you look that guy in straight in the eye and say this:
“Rush Limbaugh is an American citizen and he is entitled to say whatever he wants about Barack Obama.”
Then ask the reporter if they have a problem with free speech.
Next, when they ask you if you agree with what he said you tell that reporter this:
“I promise to support Barack Obama just as much if not more than the way that Barack Obama,Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and for that matter the entire Democratic party has supported George Bush over the last few years.”
Then you ask that reporter if he has a problem with that.
Since most reporters seem to love to put their own opinion into every story the report they should jump at the chance.
Try it just once.Turn the tables on them and ask them a question.
Ask them who they voted for.
Ask them what party they belong to.
Ask them if they earn more than $250,000 a year.
Ask them what they think of George Bush or if they voted for Bill Clinton.
Ask them what they think about abortion.
Any one of those questions will have them reeling back and stuttering instantly and I doubt they will answer it.
Ah…but their reaction will answer your question and all who are watching will see it laid bare.
Get in their face.Push back.You are not being interrogated for Pete’s sake.
Don’t worry about being polite with them.
Secretly they hate your guts and you need to realize that.
You will never get a fair shake from them so don’t worry about ruffling their feathers a little.
Put them in their place.They are nothing more than candy ass T.V. models working for the DNC.
Make them look like a fool once in a while.
How could it hurt?
I also have noticed that when they ask you and other Republicans certain questions that you do not have a good answer ready and start backtracking away form core principles of the party.
For example :”Tax cuts for the rich”
Let’s face it.Pundits know that they can tag you with that question at any time and you have no response and they make you look silly.
Try saying this.
“Of course I support tax cuts for the rich you jackass.Who do you think puts people to work in this country….?The poor?“
Then ask them if someone wants a good job should they turn to a wealthy man or go to a public housing project and which may be more fruitful.
Wealthy people put this country to work.Poor people do not.
Why are you ashamed to admit that?
Whenever you tax the rich even higher you are killing a job somewhere.
Now you simply turn back to the pundit or reporter and ask them if they support putting somebody out of work.
Ask them who will spend that money better and put it into the private sector faster and more efficiently.
The federal govt. or a private businessman?
You guys need to realize that small business owners work very hard for their money and you need to protect them from the govt.
Will you please stick up for them with a little vigor?
One small businessman can put 30 people to work with good jobs but if those “wealthy” or “rich” people get over taxed by the govt. someone is going to be unemployed.
Remember this.
EVERYBODY wants to be rich.
We all do.What’s so bad about that?This is America.It’s the land of opportunity and the land of the free.It’s not the land of the free lunch.
Why are you so ashamed to stick up for rich people?
What is so great about being poor?
Being poor sucks.
Keep in mind that the person asking you about “tax cuts for the rich” is no doubt a millionaire themself or will soon be.
T.V. people make big bucks and it is the height of hypocrisy for them to be criticizing the rich as if they aren’t themselves or rub elbows with them all day long.
You want to keep in mind that the senior leadership of the DNC are ALL MILLIONAIRES!!!!
Some many times over.
Here is another little tidbit I think may be helpful.
Stop worrying about every little thing that might offend somebody.
It’s a false premise.Those people aren’t really offended but merely pretend to be to push you into a corner.
Nobody offends more people than a liberal.If you’re a Christian or pro-life,in the military or a Republican,if you like Christmas or traditional American customs and cultures or supported George Bush it will be a liberal that will attack you without shame.
When has it ever cost them?
Barack Obama spent twenty years in a church that makes a KKK rally look like a Scout jamboree.Harry Reid said the war in Iraq was lost.John Kerry called the troops stupid.John Mutha called his own constituents rednecks.Their whole damn party tried to tank the war in Iraq just for political gain.They disgust me.
Don’t worry about it.
Liberal offense is just a tactic that they use to corner you and make you backtrack.
Be ready for it and stop apologizing .
It’s embarrassing when I have to watch you guys always apologizing.Tell someone to shut up once in a while.
Stand up be proud of who you are and your party and do not let some stupid reporter get the best of you on camera.
Let me tell you a little about myself.
I work very hard and own my own home.I want to keep every penny I can and I don’t like to give it to the govt. so they can just give it away like I am an open ATM machine.
In 2000 and 2004 I gave George Bush and the GOP hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
In 2006 after watching John McCain and Lindsey Graham basically call me a bigot because I didn’t want to open the border to Mexico and make millions of illegals instant citizens my generosity came to an end.
I don’t think I was the only one.
The GOP has betrayed it’s core.
It’s true.
You guys need to get with the program and stop picking my pocket.
My point is that the GOP shouldn’t just assume that they have my support,my money or my vote all locked up.
You don’t.
The next time I gave money was when John McCain nominated Sarah Palin for V.P.
I sent $100 that very night.I voted for McCain but I was holding my nose when I did.
The guy wasn’t floating my boat if you get my drift.
Definitely not my first choice.
Just recently I received a fundraising letter from Sen. Jim DeMint.
I sent it back empty except for a note that I enclosed that basically said “When you show me something worth paying for I will send some money but If you wish to be a RINO then I can have a Democrat for free.”
I did.
I’m not joking.
This is my point.
I am a Republican of the Ronald Reagan party.I loved the Gingrich revolution and the Contract with America.I am proud of my country and support our troops and their mission.I want our borders secure and my taxes low.
I am not embarrassed by Sarah Palin.I adore the woman and was very disappointed in the way she was left hanging by her own party.
Whatever happened to guts and chivalry…?
You guys dropped the ball.
The GOP owes her a huge apology.
Remember this.
Anytime that the GOP moves closer the the DNC my wallet closes just a little bit tighter.
I do not want bi-partisanship if it means surrender to the likes of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the rest of that band of thieves.
I will not support anyone who wishes to support them either.
You need to decide which party you work for if you want my vote or my money.
RINO’s get ZERO!!!!
Thank you and have a good day.
Steve Maley
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RJD (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:08PM EST (link)nt
I sent a copy of this to Steele and Cantor and Cornyn and added this
rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 9:26AM EST (link)Dear Chairman Steele and Representative Cantor
I urge you to read this letter. I am sure you may heard of it it was posted on Redstate. It synthesizes my feelings perfectly. I also agree that I will not support the RNC or the RCCC if all you are going to do is roll over and surrender to Republican light or Liberal Demographic pandering. Like the letter says, I can get that for free.
The problem with the Republican “brand” as you seem to keep recounting is that you think there is a “brand”. Gentlemen, the Party can be nothing if it is not the home of solid principles. I do not care which ones you want to pick, you control the Party. Just be honest. I will only contribute and participate in a party where real Conservatism has a home and bastion from which to promote freedom among all peoples. Your leadership so far, judging by both of your squishy performances on TV tells me that the leadership is spending too much time and money in focus groups.
Again, I do not care, just be honest with me. If you do not believe in Conservative principles, tell me and I will move on. If you believe that success for you is in competing for liberals, compete for them. Announce fully you intend to be the new Democrat Party and go for it, I encourage it.
I am focusing on the local party for now. I am not sure what they believe, they seem to be as closed off as the National Leadership. I am trying to participate, maybe they will find a use. Be aware that if they, like you believe that this is just a problem of branding, you will see the base soon flocking to some alternative where we can rest assured our beliefs are cherished and shared. Again, I do not care which road you choose. This is the land of Freedom and if you believe that Liberalism is more the path to success for you, please pursue your dreams, just please be honest about it to us in the base.
Our future as a nation of free men and women is dependent on courageous, focused leaders and their fervent belief in and support for the underlying principles of Smaller Government, More Freedom, Less Government Intrusion into our daily lives. We need leaders that are not afraid to espouse these principles. If these principles scare you, please, there are alternate paths to your participation. As I said, you control the party, just steel yourselves and tell us just what the hell it is that you believe. If you believe we are all just entertainers and rubes, just tell us, we can take it, we are treated that way by the Democratic Leadership in the House and Senate all day long, it really does not have to be so different from you, just….for your own sakes have the guts to tell us just what the hell you stand for anyway.
In the mean time, I would highly suggest Mr. Steele that you focus on building the infrastructure and keep your thoughts buried in your head. If you ran for Chair to facilitate a run for President you are a little ahead of yourself. If you do not repair the infrastructure you would have no chance of winning anyway and if you keep letting yourself be made a fool of by a member of the “Hip Hop” culture you believe is the salvation of the party, you are, well… a fool of the first order.
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johnCV (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:25PM EST (link)Right now Rush is walking to to Steele and the RNC – and it’s about damn time.
I am just about through with republicans. I’m a Conservative and have concluded that republicans are really not interested in my support or money anymore. If they have not figured out they the MSM is the ENEMY and wants us to FAIL (but I guess that’s OK), then they have no business being in politics, much less in leadership.
We now have a group in ‘leadership’ positions that couldn’t drum up a gonad at a convention. Mr. Steele has performed exactly as I feared he would, a moderate, looking to fawn to the MSM and with no conservative principles to lean on. Disgusting.
Again, we get the leadership we elected….
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Thanks big fella'
NeoKong (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:09PM EST (link)I like your work too.
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Great column, NeoKong
David123 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:51PM EST (link)My recommend button isn’t working. anyhow, i’d give this a RECOMMEND to the tenth power if there was a button like that.
David123
NeoKong, my recommend button also is not working
ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:09PM EST (link)but I did try to recommend the posting of your Open Letter. And, as I posted earlier, I faxed a copy to Steele and Cantor with my comments.
Thanks again.
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NeoKong (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:51PM EST (link)I meant to say it earlier.
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NeoKong (Diary) Saturday, March 7th at 6:46PM EST (link)Big time…Ha Ha!
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To Cantor and Steele: You need to clearly answer the question "Do you ostracize Rush?"
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:35PM EST (link)It’s really a question that is only answerable by either “Yes, I do” or “No, I don’t”.
Cantor and Steele can either debunk or affirm what the MSM are alleging about a conservative against his own kind.
Rush brilliantly re-phrased the question today to elected republicans in DC: Tell us what part of the Obama (not Pelosi) agenda you want to succeed!
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:43PM EST (link)If they are so adamant that they disassociate from Rush’s desire that it fail, then what do you want to succeed.
trumped
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Brilliant indeed...
roscopico (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:07PM EST (link)…and if the Conservatives have any sense they’ll stick to Rush’s rebuttal.
I remember what Reagan said about forming a Conservative party versus re-taking the Republicans… with the closet and overt RINOS so abundant we have our work cut out.
Am I alone in thinking Rush truly is the de-facto (and rightful) Republican leader? Tough to pick another…
Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier…
If Rush isn't the leader
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:12PM EST (link)of the conservative movement, who is? Notice I did not say Republican. The GOP doesn’t seem to know who or what it is.
Spot on! nt
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 4:30AM EST (link)Great!!...Highly recommend....nt
Attack Mode (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:37PM EST (link)“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
5 X 100!
peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:41PM EST (link)n/t
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
Why all the histrionics?
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:48PM EST (link)Look Limbaugh stepped in it this time. Just like with the Donovon McNabb comments, ever so often he puts things in a bad way, his eloquence fails him.
Don’t try to spin it, If he really does want Obama to fail that is reprehensible, and if he really meant something else then he said it in a stupid way.
This is just like when Ann Coulter says the most horrible and hateful things to draw attention to herself and then all the conservatives fall all over themselves to defend her.
I just don’t understand the hero worship of this guy. He often says stupid things and then when that is pointed out everyone circles the wagons and feels like they have been personally insulted.
Listen, Limbaugh is damaged goods to the vast majority of this country, certainly to many swing voters. There is no way you will ever convince them that he is not a mean spirited bigot after all that he has said and done.
Continue to listen to him, nothing wrong with that, but to stand up for him and carry his water, or worse yet, to make him a part of the GOP establishment is just stupid. Keep him and Coulter at arms length or it will only hurt.
The left can display their extreme entertainers like Frankin, but conservatives can never get away with that. It’s just the way it is.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
We are witnessing the failure of the American economy in large part due to Obama's proposed policies and actual actions so far and
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:54PM EST (link)totally due to liberal fannie/freddie and bailout policies Obama and all the lib dems and even some repubs.
Rush said what he meant. You imagine that the msm wouldn’t twist anything we say and that if we would only be precisely accurate and factual that they would accept us?
Rush began his speech with why he is a conservative:
We care about people
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Sorry Kyle but I disagree....
Attack Mode (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:03PM EST (link)Rush didn’t step in anything, he was misquoted and used as a punching bag. The left has done this to all conservatives throughout our history. They called Barry Goldwater a racist. Ronald Reagan was just a dumb actor with Alzheimer’s. William F. Buckley Jr. was compared to a Nazi on many occasions. All the founders were slave owners, the list goes on and on.
What I find more troubling than any supposed “hero worship”, whether it be Rush, Cantor, Jindal, Palin, Reagan, Newt et al, is the willingness of some within our ranks to so easily jump on the bandwagon with the liberal MSM in the degradation of anyone who dares to speak consistently on conservative politics, values, and life.
When someone comes to destroy your character on a false pretense, would you have all of us stand by and do nothing? Are we to embrace to cowardice and capitulation that has led us to the minority we now have?
Sorry but I won’t be jumping on the bandwagon with you anytime soon. rush is right, and he will continue to be.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
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Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:00PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
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woodsman (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 10:59AM EST (link)“What I find more troubling than any supposed “hero worship”, whether it be Rush, Cantor, Jindal, Palin, Reagan, Newt et al, is the willingness of some within our ranks to so easily jump on the bandwagon with the liberal MSM in the degradation of anyone who dares to speak consistently on conservative politics, values, and life.”
Absolutely spot on with your comments.
The talking heads and Republicans are going to have to grow a spine and start fighting back, instead of trying to play nice in an attempt to placate them.
VP Dick Cheney said it best in his conversation with Sen. Leahy; Go F*** yourself!
Sometimes you just have to say what someone may not want to hear…
Rush said it plain and simple.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:05PM EST (link)He wants Obama to fail coz’ that will mean the “failure of socialism” in America.
Simple minded analysis
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:07PM EST (link)If you want Obama to succeed, you want his policies to succeed. I think his policies, if fully implemented, will lead to the destruction of this country as we know it, and that is why I want Obama and his policies to fail.
I believe if you want Obama to succeed, you want America to fail. The choice is that clear, is that stark, and if you can’t see that then I don’t know what to tell you.
Maybe you get get off your anti-Coulter / Rush soapbox and tell us why we all should want Obama to succeed. I am willing to listen.
Obama=America
localfood Monday, March 2nd at 5:19PM EST (link)How does wishing for the failure of an American President equate to anything other than hope for America’s failure?
Does anyone really hope that unemployment, bankruptcy, and uncertatinty will prevail for the next 4 years? What kind of soul says “I want misery for my neighbors”?
I don’t believe this socialist agenda will be successful, but I don’t root against it. If I’m wrong, and Obama’s right, then I can live with it while America prospers. I’ve been wrong before. If I’m right, and Obama’s wrong, then my countrymen will suffer more, and what joy should I take in being right?
When the Left spent the last decade hating Bush and jeering his every move and rooting against military success in the Middle East, were they anyhting other than hoping for failure and disgrace for their country? Has the Right stooped to their level?
Say, “I fear this will make matters worse, but I hope I’m wrong”. Say, “I don’t trust Congress to solve anything, but I hope I’m wrong”. But don’t tell your neighbor about to lose his job and his house, “I’m hoping things don’t get better, neighbor.”
Rush used to say Democrats can’t get elected if America is prospering. Now what is he saying?
I had your attitude in the early Clinton days.
Uma Richie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:23PM EST (link)I told my college roommate that I hoped I was wrong about him etc.
Turns out I was right, so I skipped that step this time.
Same here, UR
localfood Monday, March 2nd at 5:45PM EST (link)I thought, “Either I’m right, or we prosper” when Clinton was elected.
Turns out, both happened. GOP Congress controlled spending well that decade and WJC was not as bad as I feared (no major domestic accomplishments).
Not sure what you were right about…
Most Americans, I fear, don’t make the distinctions you and I make between a President’s fortunes and America’s fortunes.
Saying, “I want him to fail” sounds too much like “I want the hard times to continue.”
Don't get me wrong,
Uma Richie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:02PM EST (link)this time around I have no trouble saying “I want him to fail.”
Around March ’93 I read a story in the NYT about the Clinton healthcare plan. It described hundreds of binders and mentioned how every conceivable circumstance was accounted for. That scared me and I am glad the President failed to have it passed.
I was also right about 42′s questionable character and how it could negatively impact US policy.
I prefer hard times corrected by a market to giving up a shred of liberty for whatever the heck Obama is trying to do to the economy.
Hoped I was wrong...
Scipio (Diary) Saturday, March 7th at 9:36AM EST (link)I was too young to have those thoughts about Clinton. I do recall after the election telling a few people that I hoped I was wrong about Obama. Wish i had skipped that step, because I wasn’t wrong, my read on him was exactly correct.
Omaba is NOT = America.
Brian Hibbert (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:23PM EST (link)It is possible to hope that Obama fails to enact his socialist policies because you know that the only way this country will continue to be great is if it remains free.
Allowing him to continue the path to socialism is a guarantee of America’s failure.
So Obama’s success = Americas failure
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Semantics, BH...
localfood Monday, March 2nd at 5:28PM EST (link)You and I don’t like Obama’s policies, but saying you want a person to fail is different than saying you want his or her ideas to fail. It just is.
His ideas will fail no matter what I wish.
Brian Hibbert (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:31PM EST (link)They just will.
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Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:36PM EST (link)It is a distinction without a difference.
I want my Conservative Congressmen and Senators to Succeed
GregInFla (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 12:18AM EST (link)If that means that Obama fails, so be it. They got elected just like he did. This is not a dictatorship/monarchy (yet).
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
NO NO and NO
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:38PM EST (link)“Does anyone really hope that unemployment, bankruptcy, and uncertatinty will prevail for the next 4 years? ”
THAT IS WHY I HOPE OBAMA FAILS. Good Lord in heaven.
Fair enough. JS
localfood Monday, March 2nd at 5:47PM EST (link)Perhaps it’s too much to hope Rush could make headlines saying what you just did–though I’m sure he says it every day.
Will that future preserve us as
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 11:34AM EST (link)It’s about time for us to correct this situation. Actually, this is really the thing of the past that keeps hurting us. It’s long overdue.
What to do about it? It’s a decision between “Fight” or “Not to fight.”
I go for fighting…. like the founding fathers, I will die with good memories left to my family and children.
Will that future preserve us as
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 11:37AM EST (link)conservative…. or we will end up just like other liberals?
I fear that Obama’s success is the demise of us…. conservatives… our values, our way of life, our ideals, and …. OUR HOPES for this country.
You're joking right???
barry915barry (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:48PM EST (link)“I don’t believe this socialist agenda will be successful, but I don’t root against it.”
I know it won’t be successful and I am doing everything I can to make SURE it fails. Economic socialism is NOT going to happen in this country if I have anything to say about it! It is not about your “countrymen suffering….more” if you are right. Just the opposite. They will suffer more if PresBO succeeds in pushing his Socialist platform forward, which WONT succeed.
This is about stopping the train that is going full speed ahead, and NO ONE at the controls. (The Dems in the WH, Senate, and House aren’t qualified as they have shown). This is about slowing that train down before it crashes and does irreparable damage. It is about NOT having to go to your neighbor and saying that you knew their was not conductor on the train, but you were too busy to care.
LocalFood, it is time for you to take a course in Formal Logic.
papalee Wednesday, March 4th at 12:11PM EST (link)Obama does not equal America. He hates America and has said so. It is, he wrote, like “living behind enemy lines.”
Real Americans love their country and its people. We do not want to see them, their jobs and their wealth destroyed, but this is what he and the Democratic Party is about.
Think again, but think better!
OK Kyle - who do You listen to?
johnCV (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:08PM EST (link)Whom do you think embodies the ideals of conservatism today?
Whom do you feel leads a exemplary and instructional life?
If Limbaugh is ‘devisive’ then exactly who exactly is getting the frickin’ mesage out?! Name names.
I don’t give crap about the people who won’t listen to Rush because of his politics – do you really think these peolpe will vote for a conservative anyway? If one person throws them off the concept of conservatism, who does that reflect badly on? Before you reply that they might if we had a more moderate spokesman, then consider carefully what message they carry. Someone like, oh I dunno, Specter, or Snow or Collins perhaps? How about Arnold?
The warm up session is over dude. Game is on for the very soul of this country and whether we win or not – no do overs. Pick a side and press it as hard as possible – take a page from the socialists/unions and do as they are doing to us. When you have your opponent down, step on their neck, don’t help them up.
You have some replies, kyle8
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:32PM EST (link)I would like to see you answer them instead of droppping a few little bombs and then leaving.
Well I don't think there is much to reply to really
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:49PM EST (link)Just a bunch of venting. Let’s see, who do I listen to? Well, sometimes Rush Limbaugh, Sometimes others on talk radio. I never said they were not entertaining, even informative.
But they are just that, entertainers. As for Aaron’s assertion that I am jumping on the liberal bandwagon, that is just silly. Limbaugh, all your arguments to the contrary, said something very very stupid.
A much better thing to say would have been. “No one wants the American presidency to fail because that means America fails, But Obama WILL fail because socialism always does.”
Yes that would have been better but would not have gotten such a high profile in the media.
Like I said, you can listen to these people to your hearts content, you can quote them, you can buy their books, but if the politicians in the Republican party embrace them too closely it’s a mistake.
Like I said the left can get away with praising and embracing bomb throwers, the right cannot. You can rail about how unfair that is, but that is the way it is. you can all go on about how you don’t care about the “Rush Haters” but, it’s the people in the middle who we have to reach to get anything done. He is damaged goods, perhaps for all time.
You can talk about how the left was so filled with hate in the last eight years, and that is true, but so what? we cannot now exploit that to it’s fullest, we cannot go to the swing voters and point out left wing hate because they will say, “well you got your hate mongers too and they are very popular.”
Anger, shrillness, bombast, rage, none of it is all that productive.
And finally to answer your other question, In what do I want Obama to succeed in? well for starters I would like the economy to at least stabilize before I lose all my retirement. I would also like him to succeed in a phased draw down in Iraq without a resurgence in fighting, I would like him to succeed in maybe recognizing that states have rights and not pursue stupid federal drug laws in states that voted for medical marijuana, At least that would be a welcome change from the Bush policies.
I would also like him to succeed in bringing a more courteous level of political discourse in this country. Now I probably won’t get anything I hope for, but at least I am not pouting like someone who had his lunch money stolen.
Our side screwed up, we screwed up royally . In fact had we not screwed up so much there is no way that these immature ideologues could have been elected.
We will survive this, and we have the opportunity to turn it around, but we have to have a positive, proactive message. It is no use trying to scare people about Obama’s socialism, that horse has left the barn. Let us put forward a thousand better plans.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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OK, fine
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:53PM EST (link)“And finally to answer your other question, In what do I want Obama to succeed in? well for starters I would like the economy to at least stabilize before I lose all my retirement..”
So here is the question – do you want Obama to succeed in enacting every single bit of economic legislation he wants, down to card check and cap and trade and a whole host of other things, because you believe this will help the economy “stabilize”?
Yes or no?
no, but it doesn't really matter does it?
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:16PM EST (link)Neither of us have the power to stop him, neither does Rush, he will get nearly everything he wants, so better to deal with the consequences than tilt at windmills.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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would any consequence ever move you to try and increase your power?
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:20PM EST (link)or are you just a useless defeatist?
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not one of your more thoughtful comments
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:32PM EST (link)just how do you propose to defeat Obama politically BEFORE the next elections? I can’t think of anyway except to murder the democrats in control of congress.
Sure their might be a groundswell against one thing or the other that causes them to moderate a bit, but we are not going to stop them.
All the wishful thinking in the world is not going to magically get us 51 votes in the senate.
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OK, so you want to lick Obama's butt until the day before Election Day 2010?-not one your more thoughtful comments-nt
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you are a worthy son of your parent Limbaugh
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:44PM EST (link)overreaction, silliness, anger, and petulance. Bet he is proud of you.
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Your comment is obviously the result of deep thought and no anger or other emotion - nt
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You have no imagination whatsoever
Finrod (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:10PM EST (link)If that’s the only thing you can think of, it’s no wonder you end up sounding like a whiny defeatist. Use your noggin, if Bush could get the Iraq surge through a Democrat Congress, we can get the worst half of Obama’s ideas stopped at the very least; it’s always easier to stop bad ideas than push good ideas through. How did Republicans in 1993 stop HillaryCare despite nearly 40 years of minority status in the House and 6 years of minority status in the Senate? Simple: they got the word out about what passing that heaping pile of smeg would do to the country, and it made it so radioactive that not enough Democrats would support it so it could pass.
In other words, we work our (posterior) off and raise #3|| until we drive our enemies before us and hear the lamentations of their, er, wrong movie. Anyways. It’s not hard, it’s just hard work, no wishful thinking required.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
thanks Fin', you made the point I was trying to make much better - nt
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Enemies?
woolley Thursday, March 5th at 11:34PM EST (link)Since when are fellow Americans your enemy?
Another one. Good grief. You are joking right?
barry915barry (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:57PM EST (link)“just how do you propose to defeat Obama politically BEFORE the next elections? I can’t think of anyway except to murder the democrats in control of congress.”
I propose to defeat him by defeating his agenda. By winning the battle for the hearts and minds of a majority of Americans. This will be done by letters to the editors, talking directly with family, co-workers and neighbors, attending tea parties, by calling my congressman EVERY time a critical vote comes up, By actively supporting Conservative GOP Legislators both in words and with my hard-earned money. By calling out the Lame Stream Media when they are biased in their reporting against us and our ideas. By calling out our own when they do drive-by hits on conservatives.
Should I go on??
Can't never could do nothing? Think we might have more credibility
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:21PM EST (link)when the consquences of Obama’s policies hit home if we go along to get along now?
I don’t
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again, your not on your game tonight are you?
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:36PM EST (link)Did I in ANY PLACE SAY GET ALONG? You are setting up a straw-man. We have to fight in a principled way for our values.
To me, the embodiment of principled action, both in power and in the minority was Ronald Reagan. I know you probably think that what Limbaugh and some of the others are doing is equivalent to what Reagan did. But it is not.
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Now that Steele has apologized, he is forgiven. We will now deal with those that continue to trya nd justify what Steele himself has aplogized for.-nt
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Nice way to lay down and die there kyle....thanks for playing....you are EXCUSED!..nt
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kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:41PM EST (link)You are reacting with anger, not thought.
If I didn’t believe in principled conservatism I would not even bother blogging here would I?
But the great battle of the last election is over, we lost, you got to get that through your head. There will be other battles.
I just think the way to fight those battles is though reason mixed with passion, not railing and throwing things at our opponents.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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The next war is 2010. The battles that will determine who wins are going on now in media and Congress. You believe in the right things but think we shouldn't publicly
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:47PM EST (link)oppose Obama now. I disagree. Ok, you want to lay down and sleep.
Why do you feel the need to make a personal attack on me that its anger not thought? Why not just deal with what I say and respond with what you want to do.
We have a fundamental disagreement on Rush and the import of the use of the word ugly. And you keep stressing that we can’t remove dems from office till 2010 and so….then what?
You have given up on defeating any legislation till 2011?
I have not and I also don’t think that Steele’s attack on Rush helps the 2010 chances.
And neither does Steele.
I read your words on the screen and respond no matter what I think your emotions are.
do the same please
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I will repeat your defeatist words...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:48PM EST (link)“Sure their might be a groundswell against one thing or the other that causes them to moderate a bit, but we are not going to stop them.”
That is laying down and dying because WE THE PEOPLE BEAT DOWN the illegal immigration bill and WE THE PEOPLE can BEAT DOWN socialism! WE never say DIE but your one little lone voice does….so again I say you sir are excused from the fight WE hardly need defeatist in the FIGHT!
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wel, its apparently lay down and sleep - nt
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5 to that GC and how do WE in this party get...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:53PM EST (link)these uninspired, whiny “can’t we all just get along” people in the R party I thought that kind of thought pattern was left to the LEFT I thought this party had some backbone some spine and YET there seems to be a wavering in some quarters for real BATTLE……I for one am ready!
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yes, but Kyle seems he has a problem even if he wakes up if he thinks Rush is the problem
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:33PM EST (link)But Rush said it best today that the leaders in DC need We the People to lead them.
We will have to. Today, we led Steele to get his mind right.
Rush is being more paitient with Cantor and others for now.
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I think what will get many in DC right will be time during which
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:33PM EST (link)Obama’s popularity drops as the economy tanks as it is doing now.
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Key to stopping Obama
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:24PM EST (link)is you are right time for his popularity to respond to reality. His #1 agenda item is maintaining his approval rating because he can’t continue his attack on America without the adoring fan base.
yes, which is why the elected timid gop is wrong to wait - nt
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Then you don't want Obama to succeed either
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:17PM EST (link)What are we arguing for then?
This is just dumb
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:55PM EST (link)“we cannot go to the swing voters and point out left wing hate because they will say, “well you got your hate mongers too and they are very popular.”
That tells me you haven’t listened to a word of Rush.
At any rate, I’m done.
I have listened to him quite a bit including when he used to be witty.
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:18PM EST (link)but I was referring more to Coulter there.
Maybe you should be done Jack, it seems that you are reacting with too much anger. Shame on that bad Kyle he DARED to criticize the Blessed Rush!
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I don't mind criticism
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:16PM EST (link)Mindless criticism is something harder to tolerate, and that is what this is.
Your lack of historical knowledge
AHALgal Monday, March 2nd at 10:40PM EST (link)is why you are so naive.
Good luck to you Kyle. You’re going to need it.
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I do believe this socialist agenda might be successful, that is why I root against it
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:50PM EST (link)Most of the people that voted for Obama have their head up you know what. I researched Obama heavily before the election. If you are a real American then you would realize that Obama is not. Obama has never run a business or had to pay employees. He does not understand that many times business owners will have to skip a paycheck to pay the taxes. Most business owners don’t get paid by the hour, their is no guarantee that they will make enough money to even break even. Now Obama wants to make sure they cannot break even. Everyday I hear of more and more business owners throwing in the towel. And with good reason. I have owned a business for 30 years and went through periods of looking for job but then soon realized I was better off being my own boss. Obama is trying to take that choice away from Americans and that is why he MUST fail at trying to implement socialism. If America does turn into Cuba then the insurgency will begin in earnest.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
How many of the last ten presidents have "run a business"?
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:31PM EST (link)And does heading up a union count?
I’m a lying troll.
This was actually a very interesting question, Han. The answer is anywhere from 2 to 6.
Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:09PM EST (link)If we start counting back from George W Bush, Truman had a haberdashery, Nixon and Ford both ran law firms, Carter operated his family’s agricultural business, GHW Bush had an oil company, and GW Bush owned the Texas Rangers. I’d say at least four fit the criteria of the original poster (Truman, Nixon, Ford, & Carter); not to detract from either Bush, but their businesses were unlikely to ever miss payroll.
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He did not say he wanted Obama to fail he said he wanted his POLICIES to FAIL...idiots hear what they want!
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localfood Monday, March 2nd at 5:49PM EST (link)“Morning Joe” played “I want him to fail…”
Thought I could trust Scarborough…
semantics for games for those that pretend to not understand - nt
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Yes...let's roll
NeoKong (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:07PM EST (link)Seems clear enough to me.
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localfood Monday, March 2nd at 6:53PM EST (link)I saw a clip from the “RushCam” Friday morning.
I like Rush’s explication Saturday night.
His infelicitous remarks earlier in the week have created further division in the party.
Unless smoking out the weak-kneed was his intention all along…
Saying you want Obama not to fail is just as dumb as
Frozen_Man (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 6:34PM EST (link)There is nothing wrong with saying that you want Obama to fail if you truly believe in conservative principles. Saying that you do not want Obama to fail but do want his socialist agenda to fail is just as dumb as saying that you support the troops but not the mission. If Obama succeeds in what he is doing it will ruin America and its very sense of personal freedom. IF OBAMA AND CONSERVATIVES HAD THE SAME DESTINATION IN MIND AND THE ISSUE WAS WHICH ROUTE WOULD GET US THERE THEN I COULD HOPE FOR HIM TO EXCEED BUT WHEN HE WANTS TO TAKE AMERICA EAST AND I THINK THE DESTINATION WOULD DESTROY THE COUNTRY I KNOW I CANNOT AND WILL NOT HOPE THAT HE SUCCEEDS IN HIS JOURNEY BECAUSE I CANNOT ABIDE BY HIS DESTINATION. Name some things that you hope he succeeds in, and it is not enough to say that he turns the economy around because his destination of what the economy should be is not the same as a conservative’s destination regarding the economy. If the economy ends up where conservatives think it should Obama will have failed in his goals and if it ends up where Obama thinks it should be conservatives will have failed. It sounds magnanimous to say that you hope he succeeds but it is nonsense. Should the world have wished for Hitler to succeed? Don’t get me wrong I am not comparing Obama to Hitler – I am merely trying to illustrate that it is not good to blindly wish that leaders succeed and is not necessarily bad for a nation if they fail.
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Rush just ripped Steele a new one
Scope (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 2:57PM EST (link)NeoKong you have made the case beautifully, just as I am listening Rush rip at Steele for his irresponsible, incompetent, moderate talking points this weekend against Rush. The best part was when Rush said something like “And you wonder why you cannot get donations.” Also, “Mr. Steele, you are not the leader of the Republican Party, you are the RNC Chair” obviously in response to the interviewer saying to Steele “Rush Limbaugh is the head of the Republican party” Steele very quickly said “No he isn’t, I am the head of the party.” As Rush said, Steele is getting off to a shaky start, and if he doesn’t get his act together pretty dam- quick,the Party is going to be not on life support but dead.
I had reservations about Cantor even before his vote for the TARP bailout, and he actively pushed for it. Great, he voted against the Stimulus, and whipped the Republicans to vote against it, however, he seems to go back and forth depending on what day it is. When some started seeing him as the great Republican Leader, my thought was, yes, he may appear to be that today, but give him time, he will dissapoint again, and more than once.
The only thing I would change about your diary NeoKong is I would not be so kind as to asking them to grow a spine, I would ask them to grow a pair, which everyone has, they are just placed on different parts of the anatomy.
grow a pair..... 5555555!!!!!! nt
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:06PM EST (link)Spot on Scope.
NeoKong (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:33PM EST (link)Steele might do well to focus on who his supporters are and stop trying to gain approval from his critics.
If Rush Limbaugh has not been one of the right-wing media’s best supporters of the GOP and Steele in the past then I don’t know who is.
Why would he want to throw overboard all that free positive media.
It’s not smart.
The party would be in better shape if it listened to Limbaugh more and Lindsey Graham less.
This reaching across the aisle b( )llsh[t has cost us dearly.
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Just faxed your Open Letter to Steele & Cantor
ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:55PM EST (link)With this on the cover sheet:
NeoKong at RedState.com posted the following open letter to Michael Steele and Rep. Eric Cantor. I wholeheartedly agree with everything NeoKong said. I’m a precinct committeeman. Neither the Party nor its organizations, such as the RNC, will get any money from me until the leadership fights, on principle, to kill Obama’s push for socialism. I want the Republican Party to cause Obama’s programs to never get enacted to begin with. Failing that (thanks, Collins, Snowe and Specter, and the Republican leadership that refuses to criticize them), you need to lead the philosophical fight against the wrong-headed, dangerous ideas of Obama and his administration. Meanwhile, the money you request from me will go directly to real conservative candidates and organizations.
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MUTNODJMET (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:13PM EST (link)I think Steele’s problem is even bigger than he can possibly imagine.
I have to give him credit for having the guts to go toe to toe with Rush. Recently, Republicans have shown themselves to be complete cowards when it comes to criticizing Limbaugh, and with good reason, he has a huge conservative audience that he can use to make or break a Republican politician. However, the party could fence Limbaugh in if it wanted to simply by freezing him out. Yes, he has a big audience, but if Republicans started showing favor to other conservative talkers, or if the party could unify in saying that Limbaugh doesn’t speak for them, then he could be marginalized.
You’ll note how this particular liberal blogger and others like him despise freedom of speech. Anyone they disagree with is to be frozen out. Do you want to cooperate with this liberal nonsense?
Republican conservatives are not cowards for refusing to criticize Rush. We like what Rush says. Why on Earth would we criticize someone for saying the things we believe? Why would we cooperate with anyone, Republican or Democrat, who wants to freeze him out?
The pull quote and a link to the CNN clip can be found here.
I left part of this commentary at Michael Steele’s Facebook site here. The site doesn’t accept long posts.
http://amfreenet.com/2009/03/what-were-you-thinking-mr-steele/
Steele showed cowardice by not refuting the MSM lie that Rush's comments were "ugly" - nt
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Steele and Cantor are Spineles Squishes who....
Wubbies World (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:11PM EST (link)… are only interested in being liked by the drive by media.
These are the kind of Republicans who are embarrassed by the NASCAR crowd that Rush spoke about. Thier true colors come out when the media flashes their fangs at them.
My dear word, my wallet is closed shut to such disgusting people.
Mike Steele, I do not like you at all now!!!!!
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Why are we debating over who is in charge of the Republican Party?
Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:32PM EST (link)It’s pretty clear that NO ONE is showing any direction. How do we manage to get a succession of spineless dolts everywhere we turn? What is it going to take to clean house and get an effective leadership again?
I think it’s clear that as long as we keep getting the Steeles and other squishies leading the GOP that any reflection it has to Conservative Ideology is purely accidental.
And I personally think that this is and should be the GOP’s LAST chance to represent us. Get it right, or we should get gone and organize behind a true conservative banner.
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Reagan touched on the idea in 1977...
roscopico (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:01PM EST (link)in his address to CPAC.. He was a great man.
“I have to say I cannot agree with some of my friends — perhaps including some of you here tonight — who have answered that question by saying this nation needs a new political party.
“But I believe that political success of the principles we believe in can best be achieved in the Republican Party. I believe the Republican Party can hold and should provide the political mechanism through which the goals of the majority of Americans can be achieved. For one thing, the biggest single grouping of conservatives is to be found in that party. It makes more sense to build on that grouping than to break it up and start over. Rather than a third party, we can have a new first party made up of people who share our principles.”
I humbly assert that we first establish our principles. Then we kick the ass of any who spit in the face of what is true, right, and inarguable. The conservatives are the caretakers of the principles established in the founding documents, and we must reclaim what is ours.
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That was great in 1977
Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 11:57PM EST (link)But I would submit that the circumstances are a great deal different now than then. In 1977 the conservatives were still “charging the hill” to take over the party. The battle was in process. And the coalition was being defined. Leaving the party wasn’t necessary because the battle was still an open process.
Now, 32 years later, it’s pretty clear that the Oligarchy has locked rank-and-file conservatives out of party leadership. This despite the fact that we win and they lose in elections. This despite the fact that WE raise the money, WE bleed for the party, WE are the ones who stand in lines and fight and bring people to the polls. This despite the fact that the squishies who run the party couldn’t have led us into a deeper ditch if they tried.
This isn’t 1977. There’s been plenty of time for the party leadership to get on the bus. They refuse to. They’re convinced that they can force feed us their pablum and we have to take it. The GOP “leadership” has swallowed up our revolution and spat it back as a series of suggestions to be trampled whenever convenient. They seem convinced that we need them more than they need conservatives. I don’t see how.
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55555
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:48PM EST (link)Steele’s remarks were ill considered seeing that he is supposed to be the leader of our party. Luckily, we have el Rushbo to set him straight.
I watched every second of Rush’s first address to the nation
AND IT WAS MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AHALgal Monday, March 2nd at 10:46PM EST (link)We sat center stage in the 2nd row at Rush’s address Saturday. He was 100 percent correct and it is a shame that Michael Steele is exposing this spineless pandering so early in his tenure.
No money until Steele and Co. find their conservative spines. Interestingly enough, there were dozens of Libertarian candidates present at CPAC -which was a party I’d never really paid much attention to in the past. They’ve got our attention now.
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*Ahem*. I'm not grooving on the tone that's developing here...
Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:58PM EST (link)…so everybody start ratcheting it back a notch.
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Blenheim Monday, March 2nd at 11:20PM EST (link)I don’t agree with everything you said (particularly about Palin – we need articulate, well-educated candidates with impeccable academic credentials), but I do think conservatives need to stop being ashamed of conservative principles. Steele, who is precisely the kind of leader this party needs, is particularly well positioned to do some pushing back.
Did I say pushing? What I really mean is smacking.
I started my political life as a Bronx machine Democrat
Michael M. Keohane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 11:27PM EST (link)As I matured and became knowledgeable about history and economics, I moved to the Republican party because that party appeared to support the policies and programs that I supported.
I was a “worker bee” in local politics. I worked every election – not seeking recognition but taking on and doing any job that needed to be done.
Gradually, I came to realize that, with few exceptions, those who ran the party in New York State only gave lip service to Republican and/or conservative principles. So, I slowly withdrew my support from one officeholder after another until, by 1982, there was no candidate running that I considered worthy of support.
With the exception of the Presidential election of 1984, I have not contributed either time or money to the Republican Party at any level of operation. I had hopes for Steele but it appears that he is another one who will sell his principles for “a ribband to wear on his hat.”
Rush is our “Tom Paine,” pointing out our political opponents and their foolish plans while deriding our “summer soldiers and sunshine patriots.” Paine did not write his pamphlets to please King George but to rouse the patriotic spirit of the ordinary American. Rush is doing the same thing with his broadcasts. Once again, ” this is a time to try men’s souls.” Michael Steele and Eric Cantor must decide whether they want to win elections or get invited to Georgetown parties.
Do not classify the words or deeds of your opponents as being hatefull, malicious or criminal in nature if they can also be easily characterized as simple ignorance or gross stupidity. Anon.
Cantor was on local talk show this morning
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 9:03AM EST (link)which covers his district and constituents. He said “Everybody wants the economy to come back. Nobody wants things to fail.” Notice the “things” not just Obama. So, does that mean that he wants Obamas policies to succeed? Doesn’t that fit right in with his comments a few days ago? And that is who some are calling one of the GOP’s great leaders.
Some help for Cantor and Steele
lightduty (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:12AM EST (link)http://lightduty.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/cantor-steele-how-to-avoid-friendly-fire/
To sum it up: Be honest. The truth is on your side, so don’t avoid it.
“Nobody wants things to fail” – well, duh. So you’re a fan of expanding government and increasing taxes? No? Well, then, SAY SO, like this: “Everybody wants the economy to come back. But the policies this administration and Congress are pursuing have proven to prevent or impair economic recovery.” See? The truth really does make a good arguement.
Speaking of offensive...
RobW (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 12:55PM EST (link)Although I agree with you that most of the outrage out there is fabricated, there is no way you can believe that Rev. Wright’s church is worse than a KKK meeting. As far as I know, no one was ever lynched at Trinity United. Trinity United did not undertake a deliberate, violent, racially motivated intimidation campaign that lasted for years. Trinity United never bombed a church, burned down a house, or chased down and killed blacks and Republicans who tried to vote.
The KKK isn’t just a bunch of racist white dudes that sat around in white sheets saying “God Damn America”. Say the truth, and say what you mean, but you’re not doing yourself any favors by making crap up.
You make good points, but in many ways I think the Wright Church and others like it have had a much worse impact than the KKK ever did
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 1:00PM EST (link)or at least since the 1920s.
The lib-dem stoking of racial grievance even after the end of de jure legal discrimination in the 60s and even after the 80s when actual race discrimination ceased to be a major impediment to black achievement. I dare say that the philosophy expressed in Wright’s church and the like have been responsible for exponentially more deaths of Blacks than the KKK.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Wait, what?
RobW (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 4:28PM EST (link)I would dare say that you are entirely off base. I don’t know which black deaths you are talking about that are a direct result of the wrong attitudes espoused at that church. Laying any deaths at the foot of that church is going to be a stretch, particularly when the “philosophy” in question was nonviolent.
I do know that the Klan firebombed a whole host of houses belonging to civil rights leaders in the 50′s, particularly in Birmingham, and that there were plenty of murders during the 50′s and 60′s by the Klan.
Really, don’t belittle the horrible nature of what the Klan did, and don’t try to make a tortured link between the death of thousands of hypothetical African-Americans and one particular church.
you didn't read my post or have poor reading comprehension skills
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 6:04PM EST (link)One church? Re-read my post and reply again and I will determine if you are worthy of a dialogue.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Nice
RobW (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 4:45PM EST (link)I was responding to this quote: “Barack Obama spent twenty years in a church that makes a KKK rally look like a Scout jamboree.”
Both NeoKong and I were talking about Trinity United, which is one church. You’ve somehow tried to turn this into an argument about whether a philosophy of victimhood/racial grievance worldwide has contributed to black deaths. Maybe that’s true or maybe it’s not, but such a broad, impossible to prove claim doesn’t have much to do with whether the church Barack Obama attended is actually worse than a hate group with thousands of deaths on it’s hands.
I think you need to re-read my post and the OP and see if you can keep your dialogue on topic. I’ll give you a hint: that topic is Rev. Wright’s church.
Well put! (nt)
larueladue (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 6:51PM EST (link)Maybe forty years ago or longer.
NeoKong (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 4:50PM EST (link)You can’t provide any contemporary examples of what you described.
Rev.Wright’s rantings are fairly recent.
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I don't think providing contemporary examples is necessary
RobW (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 5:12PM EST (link)Really, whether or not the violence was recent doesn’t make a huge difference. Ask yourself this (in trying to avoid Godwin’s Law): did time change anything about the terrorist acts committed by the Baader-Meinhoff Gang or the Red Brigades? If Al-Qaeda goes dormant for 20 years, does that mean we should consider them OK guys?
Not that it matters, but if we’re going back 40 years, there’s a nice collection of violence by KKK groups since then. For example, they blew up 10 school buses during desegregation in 1971, lynched a man in 1981, and most recently beat the hell out of some kid named named Jordan Gruver in 2006.
I wasn't confused by what Rush said
jimmyneutron Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:56PM EST (link)I don’t get to listen to Rush all that often as I have a job (that is where you go perform real work to get money – for you libs). However, I knew what he meant as soon as I heard the quote. He wanted Obama to fail in his quest to socialize America. None of Obama’s plans are good, so why on earth would we want any of them to succeed.
I am an engineer, not an economist, but I have read enough economics and history to know that what Obama is doing and wants to do to this country is absolutely going to ruin it economically. Don’t even think in terms of the usual boom/bust cycle with this economy. Everything we knew is now out the window and gone – the socialistic government policies being implemented are going to ruin things for a long time to come.
Intentions don’t matter either. He may believe that he is really doing the right thing and he may truely want to help – but that doesn’t matter one bit. Actions are what matters in this arena and the actions of Obama and the rest of the libs will have the expected results. If you are still confused, read Hayek. He will tell you exactly where this road is leading.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Steele & Cantor made mistakes
Whitehorse (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:03AM EST (link)They did. Steele apologized & I hope things work out. He let himself be used by the media, & I pray he learns from his mistake & doesn’t make it again.
I, for one, am not ready to throw him away & quit over this. We have too much at stake, & there will be bumps in the road.
From what I’ve seen, Sen. DeMint is one of the rock-ribbed & steel spined Republicans we want. Let’s not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Emailed to Rush. I hope he reads it on the air.
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:56PM EST (link)This is one of the best blogs I’ve seen in my 3+ years at Redstate. Great work, Neokong.
This blog should be front-paged.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
I too want Obama to fail...
UpLateAgain (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:34PM EST (link)Because his agenda is the ruination, not the saving of America. He’s a smart guy. He knows what he is doing, and he knows that it will ultimately result in economic and political hegemony for the Democratic Party if he succeeds.
He doesn’t care that the cost of that hegemony will be the ruination of the America that was once the light of the world anymore than Harry Reid or Nancy pelosi cared that getting their message and agenda across would have spelled our loss in Iraq with the attendant increase in American life lost and threat to our citizenry from the Jihadist movement.
It’s simple. If you are trying to make me a socialist minion…. I want you to fail.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
You clearly don't need my kudos...
realityunwound (Diary) Saturday, March 7th at 12:39PM EST (link)but you’ve got them anyway. Clear, precise, and spot on. Well done.
http://www.realityunwound.com