Google Fraud


This may come as a shock, but I don’t use the Google search service. So it took an anonymous tipster to set me off on a brewing bit of fraud going in in the Google search service: They are ham-handedly altering the suggested search terms in order to promote a coverup of “Climategate.”

Google’s suggested terms feature has been the source of much humor as people have gamed it to produce odd results. Type Why, for example, and you get results like these:

Google Why

But Google wants us to believe nobody is searching for Climategate despite it being such a big story, but I have evidence that it’s merely a coverup for political purposes.

My evidence is in the behavior of the feature itself. Watch what happens if you type in Climatega, nearly typing in the entire word Climategate:

Google Climatega

Well that’s odd. Nobody’s searching for climategate at all. But wait: It’s not showing me words that start with Climatega. Rather, it’s showing me words that start with Climategua. Seems like a bug, right? Like those letters got pointed to the wrong place, almost.

Let’s back it up a letter and type in Climateg:

Google Climateg

At least now it’s working correctly again and showing me searches that use the letters I typed in order. But still no climategate. Let’s back up another letter:

Google Climate

Well what do we have here? Climate gate scandal. Oops. They erased climategate but didn’t erase climate gate. Somebody did an incomplete job of sending the story down the memory hole. Too bad, so sad. You are exposed, Google. People are trying to get to the truth, but Google is actively trying to hide that fact.

Talk about an inconvenient truth.


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And if you start with global warming", it has "hoax" listed

bk (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 6:01AM EST (link)

Of course the top entry under “global warming hoax” it’s that global warming is NOT a hoax.

But I’m sure all these sorts of things are coincidences.

But don't overlook the obvious...

merryj1 Friday, December 4th at 4:11AM EST (link)

Limbaugh has tagged them “seminar callers;” they inundate the C-Span “Washington Journal” designated Republican and Independent phone lines during political call-in shows; ditto radio talk-shows and call-in segments on various tv political shows; if they could spell properly, they’d have a greater presence in newspaper “Letters to the Editor” columns – as is, they get a lot of ink in those entries. I don’t know whether it’s part of their “paid” duties, but with the current bunch and the Soros + Acorn + taxpayer–related funding, that doesn’t seem unlikely.

Search engines work by the numbers: One hundred searches by “normal” surfers looking up “climategate” versus one thousand “seminar searchers” trying to influence where a “climategate” search ends up… well, you’d probably get the type of search results this blog points out.

 
 

I guess it all depends on who is asking you to

Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 6:37AM EST (link)

look something up. Back when Rosie O’Donnell was on the view, being the trufer that she is, she asked that people look up the Bay of Tonnekin, she said “Google it.” My how times change.

 

I guess it all depends on who is asking you to

Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 6:37AM EST (link)

look something up. Back when Rosie O’Donnell was on the view, being the trufer that she is, she asked that people look up the Bay of Tonnekin, she said “Google it.” My how times change.

 

The smoking gun

NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:09AM EST (link)

I went to Bing.com and typed in “climate” and climate-gate came up as the SECOND term in the list. Google is manipulating its search engine for politcal reasons.

certainily explains

theduck6 Thursday, December 3rd at 10:29AM EST (link)

why the Google CEO is on the list of “tell me what I want to hear and not alternative approaches” summit members that the Messiah is having, doesn’t it?

 

Currently first

Craig Steiner (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:13AM EST (link)

Right now when I type “climate” into Google (not even “climateg”), the very first suggestion is “Climate gate scandal.” It seems to be working.

The suggestions are almost definitely based on what people are searching for. If every conservative takes their search business to bing, what’s left is going to be a bunch of liberal searches defining the suggestions at Google.

 
 

Bing, Yahoo Search do the same

mikejd Thursday, December 3rd at 7:27AM EST (link)

I’m not sure if this is really a scandal. Bing and Yahoo! do the same thing. It shows when you only time climate and they have it in the hyphenated format as well.

Why would Bing and Yahoo! follow the same pattern? Are they linked to Google?

Bing, Yahoo Search do the same

mikejd Thursday, December 3rd at 7:28AM EST (link)

time should be type*

 

bing is not supressing

NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:41AM EST (link)

I'm afraid they are now.

Elizabeth (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:13AM EST (link)

Try it. Even Dogpile is doing it now, although I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised by the latter since it’s simply a search aggregator.

“‘You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,’ said Aslan. ‘And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth. Be content.’” — C.S. Lewis’ “Prince Caspian”

 
 

You're a Democrat, right? (nt)

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of course it's a scandal

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 1:08PM EST (link)

Engines like this rely on minimal rules for speed. Everything that is an exception is deliberate.

Kill the Terrorists
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Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 

It's for the kids

VizBiz (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:35AM EST (link)

No need to scare the kids with the deniers foul language and un-truths. It was taken out of context. Polar bears and bunnys are dying.

Don’t listen to the grown-ups kiddies, Uncle Al knows best.

Runs with scissors, walks with Wacom.

 

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you...

RedBeard Thursday, December 3rd at 7:44AM EST (link)

…to discover that the leftists at Google are involved in hanky-panky.

I always enjoy the opportunity to use the term “hanky panky.”

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 

Google has always been this way.

vech Thursday, December 3rd at 7:44AM EST (link)

I stopped using them long ago. It really irritated me when news favorable to the Dems would stay up for days on their news page and would be prominently featured. But, if the news was an embarrassment to them, it would either not be there at all, or would be gone within a day, and was invariably hard to find. There is nothing random in their selection of…..anything. They have an agenda, and they have no shame.

Saddly, most people don't know they're being had

NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:49AM EST (link)

People need to know the news from Google is being overtly manipulated. That’s why I use Bing and not Google.

i like drudge for my quick snapshot

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 1:14PM EST (link)

Which is often all I want from national outlets.

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There appear to be some leaks in the dike.

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:57AM EST (link)

I just ran the “climatega” search and there several climategate hits at the top of the search. Of course, they were the results of twitter names or from blogs. No links to what the lame stream media would call “hard news” sites.

Or maybe they're hiding under the scrutiny (nt)

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Don't be evil

locomotivebreath1901 Thursday, December 3rd at 7:59AM EST (link)

Don’t use Googlag.

Use Ask dot Com

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Signature:

I use Dogpile

RedBeard Thursday, December 3rd at 8:06AM EST (link)

It’s a metasearch that usually gives me what I need to find out.

Besides, I like the name.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

Dogpile uses Google under the hood

NickDeringer (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:11AM EST (link)

As much as I hate Bill Gates, Bing has been a great search engine. They also celebrate holidays like Veteran’s Day with very patriotic photographs. They are not ashamed to be an “American” search engine.

Microsoft's on the Net Neutrality train, too

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:41AM EST (link)

I use ask.com

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Oh no!

zroxx (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:07AM EST (link)

They’ve gotten to ask.com too! Where will this conspiracy end?

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What’s worse, it is obvious that ask.com has an employee or employees who are manually adjusting the ask.com auto suggest feature to the point that even “climategat” wont give a single suggestion!

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pjshifty of the search engines! (nt)

blooch Thursday, December 3rd at 11:12AM EST (link)

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

 

You're pretty dumb

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:20AM EST (link)

No, really. You clearly think you’re making an argument but you’re just an idiot.

Like most warmers, birthers, and truthers.

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Disappointing

zroxx (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:58AM EST (link)

Neil, your responses to criticism are also beginning to ape the manner in which your liberal opponents reply to counter. Stamp your foot harder! Use more derogatory name calling against critics of your ideas! Or don’t respond at all and hope the criticism goes away! I guess if that approach works for liberals it may work for you too?

My evidence is in the behavior of the feature itself.

If that is your evidence then the same evidence should be used to implicate Bing, Yahoo, and ask.com. Except the idea of Bing, Yahoo, and Ask having employees manually adjusting search engine results regarding the “climate gate” topic as you’ve alleged Google has done is equally ludicrous. So your evidence really isn’t evidence at all, it’s a conspiracy theory. and there are more reasonable explanations for Google’s front page auto suggest behavior than what you have proposed.

Now apparently you want us to believe that Google’s search adjusters scoured the Internet this morning, saw your post, and quickly manually adjusted their results again so that “climate gate scandal” appears for “climateg” whereas before it appeared for “climate”.

And to explain why “climate change scandal” did show up, you want me to believe that Google’s employees just didn’t do a very good job. Not only did they forget to hide that one, they forgot to blow away the 22 million results for “climategate”, they forgot to blow it out of Google News, and they didn’t remove it from Google Trends data. For that matter, searching for “+climategate” turns up 1.5M results which IMO is amazing considering the word “climategate” probably wasn’t even used before a couple weeks ago. So even though all that information about “climategate” got indexed in such a short timeframe, we’re supposed to believe Google is engaged in “fraud” and that you’ve managed to expose a major coverup by them because of what their auto suggest feature returned?

Find me a smoking gun and I’ll gladly parrot any facts you bring that genuinely demonstrate Google did exactly what you say they did. Until then I have to categorize this kind of conspiracy theory stuff as Google Trooferism, aka, Gooferism.

TLDR (nt)

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Dogpile uses everyone, really

RedBeard Thursday, December 3rd at 9:33AM EST (link)

Seems a bit more open that way, getting info from multiple sources. Avoids being trapped in a room with the biases of one single organization.

And I can’t stress enough the fact that the name is fun to say.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

An alternate search engine

OldNuc Thursday, December 3rd at 10:01AM EST (link)

Try this one: http://clusty.com seems to be reasonably neutral. I moved to using Clusty after using Dogpile.

 
 
 
 
 

Thanks for the Information...

Praying (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:27AM EST (link)

I just changed my default search engine to bing.com

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

Me too!

Duke Thursday, December 3rd at 11:26AM EST (link)

I switched over to Bing.com as well. I think it works great, and if I need to I can always go over to google.com to see what they have to say.

It’s not about a purge. It’s about an insurrection.

 
 

Just as an aside...

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:46AM EST (link)

If Google followed its own Net Neutrality principle of transparency, we’d know exactly how these results are selected.

But they don’t.

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Bing and Yahoo

WarEagle01 (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:47AM EST (link)

are no longer bringing up climategate in the suggested search terms. Looks like they’re now doing their part for Uncle Al.

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What is wrong with liberals?

jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:49AM EST (link)

How shameless can they be?

Are they just born without a conscience or what?

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

Liberals don't have God

tankertodd (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:23AM EST (link)

And I am not a church-going person, but I have God. And it isn’t Algore, Mother Earth, celebrities, or Good Feelings. Liberals don’t go to church probably because they don’t have God. They have gods.

Growing up I thought all that talk about having false gods was a bunch of hooey from the rocks and sandals days of the Old Testament. Not so. Dang relevant today.

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This is a bit of a reach

shanghaied Thursday, December 3rd at 8:54AM EST (link)

I mean if you can muster up the strength to type “ate” at the end of “climateg” Google will bring up all the articles on the scandal you could possibly want.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

Thomas Jefferson

It's amazing how all the hopeshirts get so panicked about little old me...

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:13AM EST (link)

… that they all come here in a rush to say there’s nothing to see here.

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shanghaied, I looked at your profile.

penguin2 (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:45AM EST (link)

You must consider yourself an exception to the rule in the Left’s perception of this country. No, conservatives do not have a “monopoly on patriotism.” Many groups make up America and I consider them patriotic. Not the Left. As you clearly identified yourself as from the Left, what did you think about Chris Matthews comment of Obama going into “the enemy camp,” when he went to the West Point?
The Left’s “love” for this country is strictly tied to their extreme desire to turn it into a Socialist/Communist state.

As you noted you are living in China, but your profile statement: “For all the talk of totalitarianism and it being a police state, I feel safer and more free here than I ever did back in the U.S.”

I hope you continue your nice, freedom loving stay in China. If you have a problem, will you be calling the U.S. Embassy for help?

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5^ nt

makemyday (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:51AM EST (link)

When all else fails…….. Shoot!

“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)

“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777

 

Not exactly sure

shanghaied Thursday, December 3rd at 8:49PM EST (link)

what you meant with that first bit about me considering myself an exception to the rule re: the left’s perception of the country, please clarify.

As for what Chris Matthews said, I haven’t seen it for myself so I can only go by what I’ve read and clearly he made a poor choice of words. I would assume that he was making a reference to the notion that the military tends to be conservative and, at least in recent history, Republicans have been more “supportive” of the armed forces. That is if you consider sending young men and women half way around the world to die based on deception and deliberate distortion of facts support.

I think it goes without saying that Obama and the Armed Forces are not actually enemies, and that as Commander and Chief Obama wants to walk the line between defending our national interest and keeping the men and women he was speaking to alive. So, yeah, poor choice of words.

Thank you, in the end, for your warm wishes. I will certainly enjoy my stay in China, I don’t plan on leaving anytime soon. It’s a beautiful country, amazing people and so easy for me to take short trips to places like Bali, Phuket, Cebu, Sanya, actual heavens on Earth.

As for seeking the help of the U.S. Government if I were to find myself in serious trouble, of course I would. Just because I live abroad doesn’t mean I stop being an American. I pay my taxes, vote, etc. and am entitled to the same rights and protections you are.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

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shanghaied, I see I left out part of a sentence.

penguin2 (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:40PM EST (link)

Your profile statement which I quoted above, seemed such a slap in the face to this great country, was why I queried you about whether you would seek aid from the U.S. Embassy. Yes, there are beautiful aspects of all nations, though the one thing I found of interest after traveling abroad, was how glad I was to be an American and grateful for the privilege of living here.
Do you consider yourself an expatriate? And I am not referencing your patriotism here, just curious as to when one assumes that status.

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Expatriate?

shanghaied Saturday, December 5th at 11:07PM EST (link)

100%

And what part of my profile statement is a slap in the face?

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

Thomas Jefferson

 
 
 
 
 

Is my user name "Annoymous"?

jackbenimble (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:18AM EST (link)

I thought you might give me credit for bringing this Google malfeasance to your attention. I posted the following in your Google thread yesterday:

“When you start typing letters into the google search box it usually automatically tries to anticipate what you want to search for and “auto-suggest” the most likely searches. This is supposedly driven by frequency algorithms. “Climategate” is one of the heaviest searched terms in Google right now but it does not come up as an auto-suggestion. It did for a while and then it was removed and then it did for a while and it seems to have been removed again. Google is definitely weighing in on the politics.

This has all been heavily discussed over at the Watts Up With That science blog.”

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Yeah sorry I missed that

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:29AM EST (link)

But Anonymous did mention you :-)

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This is why RedStaters need to stop using Google

tankertodd (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:20AM EST (link)

If the year-after-year suppression of Christian holidays wasn’t enough, if the liberal idiocy of the leadership wasn’t enough, if the Chicago-style tactics they use against local governments to extract insanely low taxes wasn’t enough, there’s this.

Folks, switch to Bing. For all the crap Microsoft gets, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is more of a force of good in this world than a billion libtards and their expensive plush jumbo jets parked on government land.

I’ve been trying to get rid of Google, but couldn’t due to search inferiority with competitors. Bing is now at least as good as Google.

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5 tankertodd!!

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:02AM EST (link)

I don’t agree with all their statements regarding gov benefits but they are actually DOING REAL WORK to help children..things that help families be independent. Whoever they have running their stuff knows what they are doing and knows the REAL NEEDS not just some made up garabge to channel in more gov funds while helping nobody.
I don’t agree with them excluding whites from scholarships either but it’s true they do a lot of good.

On your recommendation I'll try Bing, BUT...

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…if it doesn’t work I’m going to dog you mercilessly, STUMP. One of my favorite military quotes is from WT Sherman, you’ve probably heard it. “10,000 Cavalrymen haven’t been born who don’t quake with fear at the sight of a dozen Infantry bayonets.”

Seriously though, I’ve had the same issue. I’d love to give up google, but everyone else really sucks. AOL has been filtering their results since their inception (are they even still around?), yahoo always fills the first page or two with their own stupid shite, dogpile is, aaaarrrrgggghhh. Hopefully Bing works, I’d love to help stick it to google.

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I stated in another post

makemyday (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:29AM EST (link)

a month or so ago talking about Net Neutrality and Google that we could change our default search engines to something other than Google. I did a few years ago and also during some installations you get asked if you want to install Google Toolbar I say no.

One of the comments to me was “Does that include Google Calendar that RedState uses?”.

I guess I’m saying if we are all going to stop using the evil Google product then maybe we should actually stop using the evil Google product.

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You're missing the reason here

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:32AM EST (link)

The reason not to to use Google’s search stuff isn’t to stick it to them.

The reason not to use it is that it’s biased.

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No, I don't think so Neil

makemyday (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:42AM EST (link)

I don’t use Google for a number of reasons such as political leanings of the Corporation, apparent desire to dominate everything on the internet, collection of user data. It is the same bias I have towards a government’s collection of data on it’s citizens that usually start out as something benign but transforms into something else because they can.

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seen this before

johngaltline Thursday, December 3rd at 9:32AM EST (link)

22,000,000 million hits on climategate, but it’s not worth prompting for, huh?
I saw the same thing on “death panels.” It took them weeks to index that one as well.

 

Same deal with

gator_hoo (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 9:36AM EST (link)

Bing (although climate-gate appears with as little as cl)
Yahoo (almost exact same as google)

 

In fairness

livefreenh Thursday, December 3rd at 9:47AM EST (link)

I doubt that Google has a person sitting down at a keyboard doing this. If that were the case, they would have banned the Michelle monkeyface.

You need to consider what causes those proposed search terms to come up: are they based on frequency of requests, or based on frequency of occurrence of words in that phrase, or just what? There is an algorithm.

I personally wouldn’t have used the pseudo-word “climategate” and if I were to search for this issue, I would have chosen a term that meant something to a word searching algorithm. My guess is that if you search for that particular word, eventually you will get a hit to redstate.com because the word was discussed so much here…. the word was discussed, and not the issue itself.

Frankly the issue is more important to me than the word that was invented by some Pubbawup. (You can look that one up on Google or Bing, and Google will give you a better answer. It has to do with inventing words.)

Agreed

BlueFalcon Thursday, December 3rd at 10:00AM EST (link)

The far more likely cause is that “climategate” is not exactly a mainstream word. Certainly not one I have seen any major news source use. The Google auto-complete aggregates the most common search terms, and it may just so happen that no one is googling for “Climategate.”

Now, as of right now, type in “clim” and the number one suggestion is “climate gate scandal.” This is much ado about nothing.

Gazeroo

SoFiMil (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:56PM EST (link)

I ran all the terms that came up in Niel’s list separately in Google and here’s what I found. That climate gate thing that’s only been in the news for less than a week? – #3 on the list of alphabetically ordered hits for “climateg”. It’s taken #1 and #2 years to get that many hits. Meanwhile, until Google did their fix, climate guard (with 22,700) hits was on the list, but climategate was not.

34,500,000 for climate group (0.76 seconds)
8,390,000 for climate graph (0.41 seconds)

***6,440,000 for climate gate scandal (0.09 seconds)

5,980,000 for climate guru (0.35 seconds)
5,020,000 for climate guard windows review (0.36 seconds)
1,300,000 for climategroup.co.uk (0.24 seconds)
1,200,000 for climate ground zero (0.25 seconds)
141,000 for climateguard windows (0.52 seconds)
25,300 for climatemp (0.35 seconds)
22,700 for climateguard (0.19 seconds)

www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com

 
 

You're wrong

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:22AM EST (link)

They have people at keyboards doing this kind of thing all the time.

They have extensive procedures written to manually tweak the search results all the time. I’ve seen some of them.

Why don’t you think there are obscene words on the why suggestions, for example?

Sorry shill, you lose.

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Shill?

livefreenh Friday, December 4th at 5:38PM EST (link)

Are you referring to me?

I’m a computer scientist with 40 years experience, and a capitalist. You seem to be a conspiracy theorist.

My answer is more reasonable than yours, even if it takes a little more thinking to understand why.

I’ll wait for you while you figure it out.
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If you believe that, try the following experiment:

Elizabeth (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:26AM EST (link)

Try typing in the following combinations:

climatega (‘climateguard windows’ shows up first)
climatege (nothing shows up)
climategi (nothing shows up)
climatego (‘climate gov’ shows up first)
climategu (‘climateguard windows’ shows up first)

And you seriously think somebody isn’t actively redirecting “climatega” to “climategu”?

climategat gets you ‘climate guatemala’ as the first suggestion

Yes, I’m sure that ‘climate guatemala’ is a more popular search option that ‘climategate’. (Sarcasm, in case that wasn’t clear.)

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Al Gore

10ksnooker (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:00AM EST (link)

And his fingers in the scales of justice….

Al Gore helped Google with their searches

red_refugee (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:21PM EST (link)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/15/al-gore-advised-google-about-its-search-quality

 
 

another goofy Goog listing...

larryp Thursday, December 3rd at 10:02AM EST (link)

check out recovery.gov
Google has put in a hyperlink choice with ‘recovery.gov’ in blue and underlined
like hyperlinks are.
And…AND right below that,the goog has installed a 2nd recovery.gov choice.
thi one is in a special chartreuse.
I try to use other search engines but over the many years I have used google. I have neve rseen a special hyperlink for a choice and I have not seen govt listing in a special green.
Also remember that the Google header will be changed for lefty and foreign holidays, but not for American holidays.
Check it out for yourself,,,

 

There is the outside chance...

clowngirl (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:22AM EST (link)

that google just doesn’t recognize “climategate” as one word.

I just typed in “climate” and “climate gate scandal” is the first thing to come up.

That said, I have my own slightly suspicious google search story:

The other day I typed in Ann Coulter and the first suggestion that came up was “Ann Coulter Playboy” and it led to an obviously photoshopped picture of Ann Coulter’s head on someone else’s bra and panty clad body on a supposed December cover. Found a sight that unravelled the hoax showing the actual December cover that had been altered. And there were postings from the same liberal sight for multiple years – apparently they try this hoax over again every time another December comes around.

Now, it seems unlikely that this would be the most googled term in association with Ann Coulter but then again it’s possible there’s just a lot of liberals who need to get a life.

Not when people above say they saw it before (nt)

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ah, good point - and it adds weight to the suspiciousness of my Ann Coulter story. nt

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It comes and goes

jackbenimble (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:53AM EST (link)

In my post above (which I actually posted in a different thread yesterday) I noted that “climategate” has come and gone from the google autosuggest a couple of times. Yesterday, briefly, it was showing up as hyphenated “climate-gate”.

My guess is that the autosuggest algorythms are automated but also monitored and manipulated with human over-rides. Users are typing in there search requests in different formats and varying degrees of frequency: “climategate”, “climate-gate” and “climate gate”. Eventually, the search algorthms recognize a pattern and start auto-suggesting. Not long after that, the liberals notice that something is happening that they want to squelch and they over-ride the automated auto-suggest. Then one of the less used spellings bubbles to the top of the algorythms and eventually it too gets squelched by a liberal at Google.

I won’t be at all surprised if pretty soon, google stops auto-suggesting “climate gate”. The censorship happens pretty fast.

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Sorry, but I'm finding it hard to care

MikeG (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:30AM EST (link)

Between a woefully inadequate Afghanistan strategy, the attempted nationalization of 1/6 of the economy via a “health care reform” bill now being debated in the US Senate, an economy killing energy bill waiting in the wings, the cavalier attitude of our president towards his own personal safety and the dignity of the office of POTUS, and, oh yeah, “Climategate” itself, I’m running kind of low on outrage at this point.

So Google is a shamelessly left-wing, hypocritical corporate entity. Tell me something I didn’t know already. Honestly, is the fact that they have subtly manipulated search suggestions to make it more difficult to find information on “Climategate” a bigger scandel than the fact that the none of the three major news networks has said a single word about it?

I guess we'll have to wait for hacked/leaked emails

blooch Thursday, December 3rd at 10:54AM EST (link)

between Googlegeeks wherein they trade tips on tweaking the system and how to cover up their handiwork. In the meantime guys like Neil are shouting into the prevailing winds and being ridiculed for daring to expose the bias.

As for the MSM, they will eventually be dragged kicking and screaming into Climategate, long after the recriminations, firings, ruined reputations and political backfilling have run their course. Rathergate was the MSM’s 3AM call, and they hit the snooze button. This is why MSM market shares and profits are running on fumes and proposed government bailouts.

If Google wants to avoid that fate, it had better shape up before it wakes up on its own day of reckoning.

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Let me get this straight

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:05AM EST (link)

You took two paragraphs to say you don’t care?

Yeah, right.

I win, you lose.

And no I didn’t even read your two paragraphs. That you wrote them says it all.

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No, I said I'm finding it hard to care

MikeG (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 10:05AM EST (link)

Thanks anyway for the snark.

 
 
 

Try again.

ottomustaine Thursday, December 3rd at 10:31AM EST (link)

When you type “clim,” the top suggested search is “climate gate scandal.”

*now* it is. (nt)

blooch Thursday, December 3rd at 10:33AM EST (link)

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

point taken (nt)

ottomustaine Thursday, December 3rd at 10:41AM EST (link)

Yes, timing's important

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:10AM EST (link)

I took the above screenshots shortly before this post went up.

Anything that changes since is probably altered as a result of this post.

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Nope it still is the top of the heap with Clim as the first letters in the Autocomplete

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:22AM EST (link)

I do have a screenshot but I haven’t uploaded it to my blog yet. I guess the leftists at google haven’t woken up yet.

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climate gate scandal is currently the 21st most searched phrase...

kyoufuu (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:48AM EST (link)

according to google trends.

They cannot hide it forever.

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Which is why...

BlueFalcon Thursday, December 3rd at 10:54AM EST (link)

…when you type in “climate” it’s the first suggestion in the auto-complete. If that’s hiding something, it’s the worst job of hiding anything I’ve ever seen.

A more plausible explanation is that people are searching for “climate gate” more than “climategate”, and the auto-completion feature in Google reflects that.

 
 

The conspiracy deepens!

zroxx (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:58AM EST (link)

Oh boy.

So when I try Bing with “climateg” I get “climateguard” and “claimate ground zero” (screengrab).

When I try Yahoo with “climateg” I get “climate guard”, “climate graph”, “climategard windows”, “climatogram” and “climate guard windows” (screengrab).

So I’m sorry to say your worst fears have been confirmed. There is collusion between the three major search engine providers to commit fraud on a global scale by working together to suppress “climategate” from the autocomplete feature! I will patiently wait for your next important article expose detailing how Bing, Yahoo, and Google are all working together as liberal pawns.

Wait a minute. That’s odd. When I type in “c”, yes, “c” – the letter “c”! – in Google News, the very first autosuggestion is “climategate” (screengrab)?!!?

Hmmm. I wonder if Google auto suggest is different for different contexts. I wonder if the vast population of Internet users using Google’s front page aren’t actually doing a lot of searching for “climategate”, but a high percentage of news/political minded people are searching for “climategate” via Google News because that may be a more precise way to locate, you know, actual news about a topic. That sounds like a reasonable explanation, except for the fact that a secret Google conspiracy involving dedicated personnel manually adjusting search results for typed searches related to current events but just completely forgot to adjust the results for Google News too is so much more of a realistic and rational way to explain things.

(No idea if the images will show up, screengrab links included as a backup. I’ll heap praise on you in exchange for bringing back the ability to preview comments before posting).

 

I bet you'd have the same problem...

nateleyswhore Thursday, December 3rd at 10:58AM EST (link)

…if you googled “jobs”

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Search Engine Stuff...

gadsdenista Thursday, December 3rd at 11:32AM EST (link)

What is the best unbiased search engine to use?

Also, does anybody else notice that RedState has google for their own search engine?

I use ask.com

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:35AM EST (link)

And do you see why the RS search can’t be biased, given that it can only return results from redstate.com? :-)

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My Dad loves Ask Jeeves as a Search Engine

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 11:41AM EST (link)

So your not the only one for liking Ask.com. I’m a bit miffed at Ask.com for having a banner with Susan G Komen on it.

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But...

zroxx (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:06PM EST (link)

Why don’t you believe Google staffers are manually adjusting the results to favor some RedState stories over others? Or to block out certain RedState stories altogether? Since they control the results, they can choose what gets shown or not shown in the results, correct? So they can manually introduce bias or even hide stories they don’t agree with, correct?

Given your allegation that they have persons manually adjusting results and ensuring liberal bias, it seems to me that those persons would be highly motivated to game the search results of the Internet’s premiere (R)/conservative community and that would be something you would expect and take appropriate action against, like switching to another search provider or using your own engine.

Go away shill

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:09PM EST (link)

Nobody cares what shills like you think about anything.

It’s clear you’re only here because my post worked through the grapevine, and you suddenly show up and start replying to all my posts.

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Neil, I think he's stalking you. -nt-

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Little old me is a thorn in *somebody's* side (nt)

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I didn't know that you where old. -nt-

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I feel old (nt)

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What 105 yrs old? -nt-

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Not sure the number

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:22PM EST (link)

I’m 31 but I felt old when I was 20, heh.

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Neil you are

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:28PM EST (link)

really smart for 31. I thought you were older.

Yeah me too

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:34PM EST (link)

Now he’s making me feel old and I’m only half way to 33(well it was really 2 days ago but who’s counting). Yes, Neil doesn’t look a hair over 110 yrs old(bad joke).

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So I see that I'm older than you

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:29PM EST (link)

Next, I’m going to get a cane and pretend that I’m 95. When I was 20,I didn’t feel that old and I still don’t feel that old.

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Neil.

zroxx (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:49PM EST (link)

You know I’ve been here for years and I frequently read the site even when I’m not commenting. Since I started commenting, I’ve replied to many posts I’ve seen making irrational claims about Google, or Wal-Mart, or any other American corporation, and will continue to do so, regardless any claims of my being a “shill” (for capitalism and the free market – yes!). Yours aren’t the only posts I respond to, but we evidently share some interest in the technology sector. If you want to imply that I’m in some kind of “grapevine” then I guess the conspiracy has deepened yet again.

I point out where I see failures to rationally assess the merits and judge the behavior of American corporations. Particularly when those failures are borne out of conspiracy theory. I give you credit years back when you were an early skeptic on this site about “net neutrality” even when some posters here advocated for it, and you can do a lot better than this. In my opinion a post like this works to diminish the credibility of this site and does absolutely nothing to advance conservative philosophy, and neither do your say-nothing argument-free responses. I understand most people here will not agree with me and some may enjoy bashing a successful American company they now see as “liberal/evil” in the same way liberals find joy in bashing Wal-Mart for being, as they see, it “conservative/evil” (and in calling Wal-Mart’s defenders, “shills”).

I see no good at all to come of following them down that road and will continue to advocate against it in spite of the your invective.

 
 
 
 
 

I don't see it!

nolan Thursday, December 3rd at 9:15PM EST (link)

I just typed in ‘cl’ and climategate popped right up, as one word. I use google extensively and have not noticed anything terribly peculiar. I don’t doubt that there is some bias in there somewhere, but have only heard about a few things. Now, I’ m always lookin’ to ‘vote with my wallet’ as the saying goes, but I think this one falls short.
I’m a big fan of R/S and peruse it daily and find many good stories, links and info, but, again, I think this one failed to cut the mustard.
out

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Um, look at the time of my post (nt)

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um, what's the point of the time?

nolan Friday, December 4th at 5:38PM EST (link)

I just cleared my history in google and got “climate gate”, as the first suggestion, after typing ‘clim’. There are 11 million entries.
If you’re saying that it’s only a sometime thing, that some employees are donig it not others, then I can’t really argue too much with you.
They may be just messing with you, but I don’t usually buy those types of conspiracies.
Not trying to be hostile, but, again, I don’t see it, Neil.

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Time to bring it out

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 10:12PM EST (link)

Dumb

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well I guess it's official then

nolan Friday, December 4th at 11:46PM EST (link)

You are a moron.
I just typed ‘clim’ and got it. First on the list. @11:25.
What does the time of your post have to do with anything, Neil?
Insults are not explanations. Are you feeling defensive? You should.
Frankly, my IQ is way up there, but just ‘cuz you can’t make your point doesn’t mean I’m dumb.
I expect better from some one from R/S. Ad/hom is something the left resorts to when their arguments fail.
Seriously now, be a grown-up and try to convey the point. Maybe you’ll make a beleiver out of me, but I think I stand with zroxx on this one. Does that disqualify me? (I’ll bet I can anticipate your response!)

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Well it's still there but it has changed since yesterday

Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 12:01AM EST (link)

Yesterday, clim would come up climate gate scandal and today it’s only climate gate(it’s not a scandal any more?). I think you need to be careful who you call a moron.

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I think I'll stick w/ my assessment

nolan Saturday, December 5th at 11:13PM EST (link)

SO at 5am est, they had the scandal going, and by 11 pm they were so frightened of young Mr. Stevens that they stopped doing it, but now they decide to brave the scrutiny and keep at it?
Loolking at neils other posts, yeah, he’s a moron, and a childish one to boot.
BTW, at 11:11, no problems! You should be careful who you support!

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google "shill" +site:redstate.com

livefreenh Wednesday, December 16th at 9:58AM EST (link)

After Neil slandered me by calling me a “[Google] shill” I waited a couple of weeks and then did a search for the term above, that is, asking google.com to search through the site to find the term “shill”. It did not auto-complete anything, or if it did, I didn’t notice. I wanted the search “function”, not the auto-complete “feature”.

Anyway, it returned this:

Results 1 – 10 of about 505 from redstate.com for shill. (0.37 seconds)

I could have narrowed down the search to find how many times Neil called someone a name, or how many times any of the authors called someone that name, or how many times commenters had used that word in their replies. But I didn’t, because that is not my interest.

I am interested in finding the facts, and while google suits my purposes I will continue to use their services. When they fail to meet my needs, I will use a different tool.

I was going to see if “tool” and “Neil Stevens” could be used in the same search, but the auto-complete feature doesn’t seem to work that way.

With all due respect Neil, I am saddened that you took the bait from the libs hook, line, and sinker, but it’s a red herring.

 
 
 

I use Ixquick. They don't take your IP address. nt

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Intelectual dishonesty-here at Red State!

Idolator (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 1:00AM EST (link)

The creator of this post has done a little bait and switch. There is a reason that his searches don’t give him Climate Gate when he’s using Google. There is deliberate mis-spelling that skews that results.

If you were to type in the word CLIMATE or letters leading up to that word. Climate Gate appears in the top searches. When you type CLIMATEG or more you wont find it as it is a misspelling. There should be a space between the E and G.

Anyone actualy typing these things in would have passed the term CLIMATE GATE long before typing the letter G and knows it.

Go give it a shot, don’t take my word for it.

This appears to me to be a deliberate attempt to gain noteriety here at Red State. I am no fan of Google but if we’re being dishonest with the facts then we have no leg to stand on.

Look at yourself! Have you looked at yourself?!?

its called climategate in comparison to watergate...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 1:07AM EST (link)

no intellectual dishonesty. I would argue Neil has a point and this is not the first time Google has hidden top search results the last time they did it with the HR3200 or whatever the healthcare bill number was.

 

No need to call Neil dishonest - but things do change over time

civil truth (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 1:20AM EST (link)

At this point, starting with “clim” all the way to “climate[SPACE] ” – the first suggestion is “climate gate scandal”. Going to “climate g” adds climate gate emails as second choice.

On the other hand, adding the “g” without the space, i.e. “climateg” clears out “climate gate scandal” but other “climate[SPACE]g” items do post, so something there may be odd. Any guess on my part though would be complete speculation without knowledge.

Looking on the bright side, it looks like there’s been a major upswing in interest in this AGW fraud issue in the past 24 to 36 hours, and it’s only going to accelerate now that even the MSM is starting to mention it – even if they’re trying to minimize it, publicity is still publicity.

One could hope that some point their desire for sensationalism and a big audience might cause them to jump ship (especially now that their AGW ship is getting jammed in ice, so they don’t even have to know how to swim).

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just blam him and save us the effort...

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…AGW supporters should be tried, found guilty and hung as it is. Why waste time arguing with the guilty?

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Sorry, but I haven't been licensed to carry... -nt-

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maybe

nolan Friday, December 4th at 11:50PM EST (link)

Neil is a hunt-and-peckerer and can’t see the screen ‘cuz he’s looking at the keys. To be honest, I do that, but still found his theory to be wanting in substance.

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24 days/3 hours. tic, tic, tic, tic.....

gekster (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 12:00AM EST (link)

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

 
 
 

a working theory, not intellectually dishonest

Veronica (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 4:34PM EST (link)

Nott one of us works at Mother Google or owns Das Guidebook, so who the hell really knows?

Do you?

“To gain noteriety” are also very terse words — with notoriety being misspelled, btw.

Shoulda googled it, googler.

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Pray as if everything depends on God, and work as if everything depends on us. – St. Augustine

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They acknowledge they do this, re Google Bombs

rcov092 (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 4:42PM EST (link)

there have been other instances where they have been caught before
http://www.google.com/search?q=costochondritis

Hell, they built the most successful company on the planet “manipulating search”. Their left leaning tendencies are very well documented as well. Why do you live in denial?

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

Also, remeber the "Don't be evil" crowd is also

rcov092 (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 4:46PM EST (link)

suppressing dissent in China – all in the name of “promoting the greater good” because their competitors were “exploiting their users”.

Don’t get me wrong, I firmly beleive that they should run their company for the benefit of the stockholders. But then, I am not the one insinuating that capitalism is evil.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 

Why do you assume I live in denial?

Veronica (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 5:21PM EST (link)

I’m saying I don’t have all the facts of how google searches work.

I would agree that they can do whatever they want to compliment their leftist-creedo, it’s their business.

I was arguing for the original poster — as in, it wsa inappropriate to say he was intellectually dishonest.

We can all work theories, we can choose to use google or bing, and google can go to hell.

Howzat?

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Indeed

livefreenh Wednesday, December 16th at 10:04AM EST (link)

I’m with Veronica.

 
 
 
 
 

I think folk are making much too much of this

billollib Friday, December 4th at 1:26PM EST (link)

“Climategate’ is not being suggested as a word most likely simply because it is not a word. It is a neologism that may end up becoming part of current dictionaries, but three weeks ago, it would have been a misspelling for “climate gate.” It’s not surprising that dictionary-based systems would not suggest it. It also explains why “climate gate” is suggested, since “climate” and “gate” are words, but are not usually associated with each other.

Remarkable how many new posters come over to disagree with me

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 5:29PM EST (link)

I think they call that striking a nerve.

RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules

Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.

“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

Not a new poster!

Idolator (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 10:31PM EST (link)

I only post when I see something that rubs me wrong. I called it intellectual dishonesty, because that’s what I see here.

Your facts were correct, but not all the facts were presented. Cherry picking the facts is the definition of intellectual dishonesty. Which is pretty much what these global warmers are doing with the facts.

Before you go and start throwing around accusations of being a troll, check my few diary posts. I don’t truck with intellctal dishonesty.

Look at yourself! Have you looked at yourself?!?

You're lucky who you're calling a liar

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 12:49AM EST (link)

If you called any other contributor that, your account wouldn’t have hit the ground yet.

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PS, illiterate troll

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 12:53AM EST (link)

Before now I never called you a troll in this thread.

Doofus.

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Never called anyone a liar

Idolator (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 1:54AM EST (link)

In fact, you are the one calling names.

Everything that I have posted has been the facts.

Who cares if you’re a contributor, an ordained minister or the king of Siam. If we members see something that seems fishy we should be free, nay, required to point it out.

If I were wrong then it would be a simple matter of correcting me.

Threatening removal and name calling doesn’t change what was done.

The letters that I left out were mistakes, what about the facts that you left out?

Look at yourself! Have you looked at yourself?!?

Truth to power! Putz. (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 2:32AM EST (link)

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Just think if G Gordon Liddy had broken into

kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 9:13AM EST (link)

a Motel 6, every scandal would be “SomethingSix”. I get so tired of the use of Gate. Just a pet peeve.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

I say blame Bush.

Veronica (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 5:28PM EST (link)

Get Google stock to tank when the public thinks they’re in cahoots.

I miss Dubya.

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