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		<title>By: clowngirl</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3430</link>
		<dc:creator>clowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plans I&#039;ve had in NY have been a complete waste of money -not only were they extremely overpriced, but on the occassions when I did get sick the doctors in my network were so lousy that after I&#039;d wasted time going to them I wound up paying (fully) out of pocket to go to a doctor of my choosing.

I&#039;m willing to risk some bizzarre medical condition hitting me out of the blue. I regard the prospect as about as likely as winning the lottery without buying a ticket.

People sometimes get an idea of what things should cost...I&#039;m willing to waste around $100 a month on health insurance. Offer me a policy with a $10,000, even a $15,000 deductible for $100 a month and I&#039;ll buy it. But I&#039;m paying much more than that. 

People are required to by car insurance because of the risk of them hitting SOMEONE ELSE. My health is my own and I should be able to risk not carrying insurance if I want to. I don&#039;t regard disease as a purely luck-of-the-draw proposition - I believe people have a lot of control over their own health. And I don&#039;t have kids so I&#039;m the only person who is taking any risk

To me, having the government say I have to buy insurance because they don&#039;t want to pay for me if I get drastically ill ( Which is not the real motive) is kind of like if they told me I couldn&#039;t make my living in the arts - because it&#039;s a less stable career path (though I&#039;ve found it&#039;s actually pretty stable) and so what if I fail and wind up on welfare - and seeing as they can&#039;t risk that I really need to study accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plans I&#8217;ve had in NY have been a complete waste of money -not only were they extremely overpriced, but on the occassions when I did get sick the doctors in my network were so lousy that after I&#8217;d wasted time going to them I wound up paying (fully) out of pocket to go to a doctor of my choosing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to risk some bizzarre medical condition hitting me out of the blue. I regard the prospect as about as likely as winning the lottery without buying a ticket.</p>
<p>People sometimes get an idea of what things should cost&#8230;I&#8217;m willing to waste around $100 a month on health insurance. Offer me a policy with a $10,000, even a $15,000 deductible for $100 a month and I&#8217;ll buy it. But I&#8217;m paying much more than that. </p>
<p>People are required to by car insurance because of the risk of them hitting SOMEONE ELSE. My health is my own and I should be able to risk not carrying insurance if I want to. I don&#8217;t regard disease as a purely luck-of-the-draw proposition &#8211; I believe people have a lot of control over their own health. And I don&#8217;t have kids so I&#8217;m the only person who is taking any risk</p>
<p>To me, having the government say I have to buy insurance because they don&#8217;t want to pay for me if I get drastically ill ( Which is not the real motive) is kind of like if they told me I couldn&#8217;t make my living in the arts &#8211; because it&#8217;s a less stable career path (though I&#8217;ve found it&#8217;s actually pretty stable) and so what if I fail and wind up on welfare &#8211; and seeing as they can&#8217;t risk that I really need to study accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: billyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>billyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.bayshoreteaparty.com/

You&#039;ll get periodic e-mails to let you know what&#039;s going on.   And we&#039;re working on T Shirts for the group.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;ll get periodic e-mails to let you know what&#8217;s going on.   And we&#8217;re working on T Shirts for the group.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between our retirement plan and our direct payment, my wife and I pay about $25,000.00/year for health insurance.  Now admittedly, it is one of those &quot;Cadillac&quot; plans that Comrade Obama wants to tax.

I&#039;m reasonably certain that I never used as much as I paid in all through my career.  My wife might have when her kids were younger.  Now, we&#039;re going to become expensive to the plan over the next ten, twenty, or thirty years unless Comrade Obama pulls the plug on us. That&#039;s just the way group plans work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between our retirement plan and our direct payment, my wife and I pay about $25,000.00/year for health insurance.  Now admittedly, it is one of those &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; plans that Comrade Obama wants to tax.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reasonably certain that I never used as much as I paid in all through my career.  My wife might have when her kids were younger.  Now, we&#8217;re going to become expensive to the plan over the next ten, twenty, or thirty years unless Comrade Obama pulls the plug on us. That&#8217;s just the way group plans work.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bay Shore Tea Party.   If I can manage it, I may have to go up to Hazlet one Sunday.    

It&#039;s great seeing others from Monmouth County.  I thought I was the only one.  

Lonegan was my choice, but I think even my cat would do a better job than Corzine.  With the way some people vote in this state, I&#039;m sure if I made flyers and ads for my cat he could win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bay Shore Tea Party.   If I can manage it, I may have to go up to Hazlet one Sunday.    </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great seeing others from Monmouth County.  I thought I was the only one.  </p>
<p>Lonegan was my choice, but I think even my cat would do a better job than Corzine.  With the way some people vote in this state, I&#8217;m sure if I made flyers and ads for my cat he could win.</p>
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		<title>By: clowngirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>clowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clowngirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>clowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Car insurance, unlike health insurance in most states, is determined by a number of factors which determine how much you are deemed a risk.

2. Car Insurance , unlike health insurance  in most states, offers different levels of coverage. If you own your car outright, you have the option of purchasing liability insurance as opposed to full coverage. 

In other words, car insurance (at least in my understanding) is offered at rates that reflect actual market forces, where as health insurance is sold at artificially depressed or (more often probably) inflated prices do to accessive regulations and things like community rating. And, as billyd pointed out, those who cause accidents pay higher premiums and 1. help cover the cost and 2. have an incentive to not cause accidents.

You ask what if an uninsured  young person gets really sick? we can&#039;t not treat them? This problem is very easily solved and is NOT THE REAL REASON THEY WANT TO ADD AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

3 simple ways to solve this:

1. Send them a bill and require that it be paid.
2. Get rid of community ratings systems that require young and healthy people to pay ridiculous rates for health insurance
3. Get out of the way of inexpensive high deductible plans so people can actually purchase a level of insurance coverage that is appropriate to their situation.

None of these options are considered because they want to force people to participate in socialized medicine. Plain and simple.

I choose not to carry health insurance anymore and I assure you it&#039;s NOT because I&#039;m thinking the government would take care of me if I got really sick. It&#039;s not even because I can&#039;t afford it. It&#039;s because the only insurance policies offered to me are extremely overpriced and only allowed me access to (at best) mediocre doctors. I stopped buying health insurance for the same reason people don&#039;t buy most product. It&#039;s price (in NYC) far exceeds its value.

( and that&#039;s even including the value of appeasing my mom who sometimes freaks out about me not having insurance)

It simply isn&#039;t worth it to me to spend $4-$5,000 a year just on the remote chance I&#039;ll get really sick. I&#039;m healthy. I don&#039;t smoke, don&#039;t drink, I work out 5 times a week....I&#039;m not that worried and besides I just shouldn&#039;t have to pay that much.  I choose not to participate in the de facto socialism we call &quot;community ratings&quot; because I just  think they&#039;re flat out wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Car insurance, unlike health insurance in most states, is determined by a number of factors which determine how much you are deemed a risk.</p>
<p>2. Car Insurance , unlike health insurance  in most states, offers different levels of coverage. If you own your car outright, you have the option of purchasing liability insurance as opposed to full coverage. </p>
<p>In other words, car insurance (at least in my understanding) is offered at rates that reflect actual market forces, where as health insurance is sold at artificially depressed or (more often probably) inflated prices do to accessive regulations and things like community rating. And, as billyd pointed out, those who cause accidents pay higher premiums and 1. help cover the cost and 2. have an incentive to not cause accidents.</p>
<p>You ask what if an uninsured  young person gets really sick? we can&#8217;t not treat them? This problem is very easily solved and is NOT THE REAL REASON THEY WANT TO ADD AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.</p>
<p>3 simple ways to solve this:</p>
<p>1. Send them a bill and require that it be paid.<br />
2. Get rid of community ratings systems that require young and healthy people to pay ridiculous rates for health insurance<br />
3. Get out of the way of inexpensive high deductible plans so people can actually purchase a level of insurance coverage that is appropriate to their situation.</p>
<p>None of these options are considered because they want to force people to participate in socialized medicine. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>I choose not to carry health insurance anymore and I assure you it&#8217;s NOT because I&#8217;m thinking the government would take care of me if I got really sick. It&#8217;s not even because I can&#8217;t afford it. It&#8217;s because the only insurance policies offered to me are extremely overpriced and only allowed me access to (at best) mediocre doctors. I stopped buying health insurance for the same reason people don&#8217;t buy most product. It&#8217;s price (in NYC) far exceeds its value.</p>
<p>( and that&#8217;s even including the value of appeasing my mom who sometimes freaks out about me not having insurance)</p>
<p>It simply isn&#8217;t worth it to me to spend $4-$5,000 a year just on the remote chance I&#8217;ll get really sick. I&#8217;m healthy. I don&#8217;t smoke, don&#8217;t drink, I work out 5 times a week&#8230;.I&#8217;m not that worried and besides I just shouldn&#8217;t have to pay that much.  I choose not to participate in the de facto socialism we call &#8220;community ratings&#8221; because I just  think they&#8217;re flat out wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: billyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>billyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the other funny thing.   He almost got killed speeding on the Parkway.   Guess he thought everyone in the state forgot about that.   The only thing he&#039;s got going for him is the Star Ledger.   Each week, they write up some article blasting Christie.   And all the while, they don&#039;t even look at Corzine.   Christie&#039;s biggest asset.......  The Monmouth County Sheriff Kim Guandango (Not sure if that&#039;s how you spell it) is his running mate.   My Wife&#039;s cousing is a court officer, and can&#039;t say enough nice things about her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the other funny thing.   He almost got killed speeding on the Parkway.   Guess he thought everyone in the state forgot about that.   The only thing he&#8217;s got going for him is the Star Ledger.   Each week, they write up some article blasting Christie.   And all the while, they don&#8217;t even look at Corzine.   Christie&#8217;s biggest asset&#8230;&#8230;.  The Monmouth County Sheriff Kim Guandango (Not sure if that&#8217;s how you spell it) is his running mate.   My Wife&#8217;s cousing is a court officer, and can&#8217;t say enough nice things about her.</p>
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		<title>By: billyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>billyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the main problem with your post, in comparing Car Insurance to Health insurance.
You say that those without accidents pay for those with.   Actually....  If you rear ended me, your car insurance rates would skyrocket.   Mine would not change.  (Happened to me last October.  Was hit by a guy with a suspended license).   If the person that hit me still wanted to drive, his insurance would be astronomical.   As in...  He would pay for the mistakes he made.   With health insurance, that connection is eliminated by the government already.   Insurance companies are not permitted to charge you more based on your lifestyle.   They can only choose not to cover you.   Imagine a health insurance company charging someone that smokes, is obese, and has a family history of heart disease $10k per month for coverage, and then charging someone without any of those problems $100 per month.   Would never happen.   Especially not if the government was forcing people to have that insurance regardless of the rates.
On top of all of that.  Driving isn&#039;t a right.  It&#039;s a privledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the main problem with your post, in comparing Car Insurance to Health insurance.<br />
You say that those without accidents pay for those with.   Actually&#8230;.  If you rear ended me, your car insurance rates would skyrocket.   Mine would not change.  (Happened to me last October.  Was hit by a guy with a suspended license).   If the person that hit me still wanted to drive, his insurance would be astronomical.   As in&#8230;  He would pay for the mistakes he made.   With health insurance, that connection is eliminated by the government already.   Insurance companies are not permitted to charge you more based on your lifestyle.   They can only choose not to cover you.   Imagine a health insurance company charging someone that smokes, is obese, and has a family history of heart disease $10k per month for coverage, and then charging someone without any of those problems $100 per month.   Would never happen.   Especially not if the government was forcing people to have that insurance regardless of the rates.<br />
On top of all of that.  Driving isn&#8217;t a right.  It&#8217;s a privledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t able to catch anything else.  And I find it hard that someone like Corzine is bringing up driving records, when his own driver couldn&#039;t get him from the Rutgers womens basketball vs Imus thing back home without cripping up Corzine for about 6 months. 

What a douche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to catch anything else.  And I find it hard that someone like Corzine is bringing up driving records, when his own driver couldn&#8217;t get him from the Rutgers womens basketball vs Imus thing back home without cripping up Corzine for about 6 months. </p>
<p>What a douche.</p>
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		<title>By: billyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>billyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corzine has tried time and time again to stick it to the people of NJ.   Christie wasn&#039;t my first choice, but Lonegan didn&#039;t get the votes in the primary.   There&#039;s a 95% chance that Corzine is gone.   he&#039;s grasping for straws right now.  Trying to bring up how Christie has a bad driving record.  I guess he doesn&#039;t realize that if elected Governor, Christie wouldn&#039;t drive himself any longer, and that &quot;Danger&quot; would be avoided.   Personally, i want to get rid of Rush Holt more than anything else.   I actually volunteered for the first time in my life to help a politician get elected.
And it&#039;s definitely a lot less expensive out there.
Have you been following anything in NJ Politics since you left?   We&#039;ve have a few corruption scandles in the last few years.   Last year the Asbury Park Press app.com had been doing a new corrupt official each week.   And this year we had a big bust that netted about 40 politicians.   Was great.   Everything from bribes to black market kidney sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corzine has tried time and time again to stick it to the people of NJ.   Christie wasn&#8217;t my first choice, but Lonegan didn&#8217;t get the votes in the primary.   There&#8217;s a 95% chance that Corzine is gone.   he&#8217;s grasping for straws right now.  Trying to bring up how Christie has a bad driving record.  I guess he doesn&#8217;t realize that if elected Governor, Christie wouldn&#8217;t drive himself any longer, and that &#8220;Danger&#8221; would be avoided.   Personally, i want to get rid of Rush Holt more than anything else.   I actually volunteered for the first time in my life to help a politician get elected.<br />
And it&#8217;s definitely a lot less expensive out there.<br />
Have you been following anything in NJ Politics since you left?   We&#8217;ve have a few corruption scandles in the last few years.   Last year the Asbury Park Press app.com had been doing a new corrupt official each week.   And this year we had a big bust that netted about 40 politicians.   Was great.   Everything from bribes to black market kidney sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s at Asbury this year.  I should know, my dad&#039;s a coach.

Corzine makes me twitch when I see/hear him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s at Asbury this year.  I should know, my dad&#8217;s a coach.</p>
<p>Corzine makes me twitch when I see/hear him.</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but of course, and as always, he is completely WRONG in how he applies the comment.... He is speaking of Wall Street on this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;rls=CNDB%2CCNDB%3A2006-41%2CCNDB%3Aen&amp;q=site%3Awww.redstate.com+Lehman+brothers&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&quot;&gt;1 year from Lehman Bros. failure&lt;/a&gt; and ... well... you all know.....

The &quot;lack of Common Sense&quot; was that on the part of G.W.Bush and his allowing PAULSON (the real FAILURE point) allowing him into going on his &quot;abandon Free Market principles to save the Free Market&quot; to which we are still all shaking our heads and wagging our finger at W over!!! The ABUSE, of course, is what came with Democrats super-sizing the Waste, Fraud, Abuse, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/11/26/what-would-you-spend-your-3271-bailout-chec/&quot;&gt;$timulus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2009/02/25/democrat-money-laundering-re-distribution/&quot;&gt;Dem. Money Laundering (PC excuses to $pend)&lt;/a&gt; (plus &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/david_hinz/2009/07/08/redstate-has-become-bot-central-we-need-a-moratorium/#comment-1086&quot;&gt;&quot;extent possible&quot; language&lt;/a&gt;), and countless &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/29/dems-always-ignore-this-law-and-we-all-pay/&quot;&gt;unintended consequences (Democrats always ignore)&lt;/a&gt;, expenditures and the other side COSTS: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/20/can-we-afford-an-upcoming-obama-surrender-di/&quot;&gt;Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense)&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but of course, and as always, he is completely WRONG in how he applies the comment&#8230;. He is speaking of Wall Street on this <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;rls=CNDB%2CCNDB%3A2006-41%2CCNDB%3Aen&amp;q=site%3Awww.redstate.com+Lehman+brothers&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=">1 year from Lehman Bros. failure</a> and &#8230; well&#8230; you all know&#8230;..</p>
<p>The &#8220;lack of Common Sense&#8221; was that on the part of G.W.Bush and his allowing PAULSON (the real FAILURE point) allowing him into going on his &#8220;abandon Free Market principles to save the Free Market&#8221; to which we are still all shaking our heads and wagging our finger at W over!!! The ABUSE, of course, is what came with Democrats super-sizing the Waste, Fraud, Abuse, <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/11/26/what-would-you-spend-your-3271-bailout-chec/">$timulus</a>, <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2009/02/25/democrat-money-laundering-re-distribution/">Dem. Money Laundering (PC excuses to $pend)</a> (plus <a href="http://www.redstate.com/david_hinz/2009/07/08/redstate-has-become-bot-central-we-need-a-moratorium/#comment-1086">&#8220;extent possible&#8221; language</a>), and countless <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/29/dems-always-ignore-this-law-and-we-all-pay/">unintended consequences (Democrats always ignore)</a>, expenditures and the other side COSTS: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/20/can-we-afford-an-upcoming-obama-surrender-di/">Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense)</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cincinnati, isn&#039;t much better than that.  You got the Bengals and Reds (both suck).  But me and the wife get by, and it is a hell of a lot less expensive out here than what it was in NJ. 

So are you guys going to really kick Corzine in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cincinnati, isn&#8217;t much better than that.  You got the Bengals and Reds (both suck).  But me and the wife get by, and it is a hell of a lot less expensive out here than what it was in NJ. </p>
<p>So are you guys going to really kick Corzine in the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been back out since last year.  My wife is out there now visiting family. It&#039;s nice to see that they beat the Boro.  We might be out there for Thanksgiving. If so, I am so going to the Neptune/Asbury game.  Unless Neptune makes the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been back out since last year.  My wife is out there now visiting family. It&#8217;s nice to see that they beat the Boro.  We might be out there for Thanksgiving. If so, I am so going to the Neptune/Asbury game.  Unless Neptune makes the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: billyd</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3408</link>
		<dc:creator>billyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other folks from Monmouth County on the redstate boards.    Belle, have you signed on for the Bay Shore tea party?

Leopard.   Great post yesterday.   Hope Cincinnati is better that Cleveland.  I&#039;ve got a sister in law out there.   Other than the Browns and Cavs, not much at all to do out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other folks from Monmouth County on the redstate boards.    Belle, have you signed on for the Bay Shore tea party?</p>
<p>Leopard.   Great post yesterday.   Hope Cincinnati is better that Cleveland.  I&#8217;ve got a sister in law out there.   Other than the Browns and Cavs, not much at all to do out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3403</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scarlet Fliers won their game against Freehold Boro Thursday night.  26-20 in overtime.  

Have you been back recently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarlet Fliers won their game against Freehold Boro Thursday night.  26-20 in overtime.  </p>
<p>Have you been back recently?</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3404</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scarlet Fliers won their game against Freehold Boro Thursday night.  26-20 in overtime.  

Have you been back recently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarlet Fliers won their game against Freehold Boro Thursday night.  26-20 in overtime.  </p>
<p>Have you been back recently?</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I was Scarlet Flier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I was Scarlet Flier.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3391</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you attend the high school and did you graduate in 96?  My oldest brother graduated in 96.  I was a freshman that year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you attend the high school and did you graduate in 96?  My oldest brother graduated in 96.  I was a freshman that year.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/09/18/gallimaufry-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll just have to link to the page the video is on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll just have to link to the page the video is on.</p>
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